Aiden McGeady and Romelu Lukaku, were among those with an Everton connection on scoresheets for their new clubs this weekend.
McGeady also set up Sunderland's third, while James Vaughan set up the other two goals in their 3-1 win.
Lukaku was the big hero for his new club, Manchester United, scoring in each half on his Old Trafford debut before a crowd of 74,928 as the Red Devils put Slaven Bilic's feeble charges to the sword and moved to the top of the nascent Premier League table with some clinical finishing that the Blues are certain to miss this season.
There were other good performances on show: Shane Duffy very impressive for Brighton & Hove Albion against Manchester City; Christian Atsu very lively for Newcastle on their return to the Premier League.
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1 Posted 13/08/2017 at 16:36:23
As for losing all interest in Everton for two years? Can't have ever been love in the first place.
2 Posted 13/08/2017 at 16:55:36
3 Posted 13/08/2017 at 17:37:38
4 Posted 13/08/2017 at 17:55:55
It's not rocket science.
Look what happens with good service, width, pace, and three in the middle.
He will score north of 30 this season.
5 Posted 13/08/2017 at 17:56:17
6 Posted 13/08/2017 at 17:58:14
7 Posted 13/08/2017 at 17:58:55
8 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:00:06
9 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:00:09
10 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:05:00
11 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:05:54
12 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:06:27
13 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:09:51
I'd let it go. I think he will show Utd fans his best side at least 30 times this season.
14 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:09:51
While I can't fault your motives you will be sorely disappointed mate.
He has now what he did not have with us last season but still scored 25. I for one cannot blame him for feeling frustrated with second- often third-rate service.
What you saw today was Lukaku being Lukaku. This is what he can do with width, pace, and service around him,
No need for bitter here. My concern is that we have not replaced him.
15 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:10:29
16 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:14:10
17 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:16:25
18 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:21:15
19 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:23:36
20 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:32:57
When he's scored 30 goals and is holding the Premier League trophy?
He was frustrating to watch with mediocre touch and lazy at times but he practically guarantees goals and will do well in a Man Utd team filled with more creativity and pace than we had. Plus they have other goal threats which mean the entire defense cannot concentrate on Lukaku to nullify him as was often the case with us.
21 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:32:58
We still need wide players, a new centre back and a new striker. Easy enough. Oh... and minus £50 mil from the kitty on another central player of course.
What's annoying is looking at a team sheet before the game and thinking what's going on here then. We didn't try that once in pre-season but try it in the first game of the season.
The Wayne that was apparently on the wane was our best player yesterday but wouldn't of got on the field for Man Utd today. So what is our goal for this season?
22 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:44:30
As much as we were instrumental in helping him get there it beats me why people are getting misty eyed watching him banging in goals against a shit West Ham side at home for Man Utd and think that proves some kind of point. Lukaku can score goals. Fuck me, I never knew.
My advice is take the photo our of your wallet and put it in the bin, it'll be far less painful in the long run.
23 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:46:35
24 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:47:16
He wont get that at Man Utd, he would be the perfect No 9 to have in this team.
25 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:49:21
26 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:52:13
No way Mourinho will let him leave.
27 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:52:42
Let's see how he does when he comes up against a big team on October 17.
28 Posted 13/08/2017 at 18:54:27
I'm excited to see how the Lukaku-less Everton play; I hope losing him will force us to be more inventive (though yesterday suggest not) but we still need a central striker; Rooney prefers to play deeper, Sandro is too untested and Calvert-Lewin cannot be relied on for too much yet. Would have thought this striker signing would be high priority.
29 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:06:05
Lukaku, will always score goals, when everything in the garden is rosey, he was a cert to score today, but bigger fish lie ahead, and he's got to be more than a flat-track bully to succeed at United.
I'm not saying that he's just a flat-track bully, I'm saying that when you play for the biggest teams, then you have got to do it in the biggest matches, and that's why the jury is still out for me.
30 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:07:41
31 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:08:53
Dzeko and Mangala (loan) plus Siggurdsson would give us a real chance for glory.
32 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:14:23
33 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:15:29
34 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:18:04
36 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:31:40
As others have pointed out, he will have a better quality of player around him, players who will be quick to give him support, so he might well improve on the "other aspects" of his game. Only time will tell.
37 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:32:52
The stuff about him not scoring against top opponents is just nonsense. On Tuesday he scored against Real Madrid, the best team in Europe by some distance, on a night when for an hour Man Utd were totally outclassed.
If he avoids injury, and he usually does, he will score thirty goals this season. Some of those will come against the top six because, unlike us, United will dominate those games with their pace and strength.
38 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:37:24
We will not get another goal machine like him for another 30 years. Who gives a feck if he is lazy bad first touch etc etc? Give me a lazy goal machine any day to some of the "run themselves into the ground", "couldn't hit a barn door" workhorses that are about now.
He will score 30+ for them this season and for the next 3 or 4 as well.
39 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:48:44
There were many games when he didn't look interested, including the last few games of the season when most players, ahead in the goal scoring charts, would have been busting a gut to score and win the golden boot award. Not Rom, you all saw how he played but according to some it didn't bother you.
Well I never thought he was a team player, he played for himself, but if they do not put the full 90 minutes in and are not doing the job they are paid to do. That will always bother me no matter who the player is and it should bother most fans.
40 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:52:06
41 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:52:50
Lukaku, has gone, and just like when he played for Everton, I have no real love for the lad, so now that he's gone that's not going to change, but it's going to be easier watching him now because I'm not really bothered if he does or doesn't do well.
I tipped United for the title a couple of months ago on ToffeeWeb, but now that they have Lukaku and all his goals, I'm not as convinced that they will win the league as I was before, but that's why the lad left Everton, and only time will tell?
43 Posted 13/08/2017 at 19:58:35
44 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:05:29
45 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:07:57
46 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:14:58
The reality was that he often looked poor in poor teams at Everton and he's in a better team now, he was a snip at what we sold him for. He is possibly a league title winner for Man Utd and a superb investment.
I say he was often poor in poor Everton sides but no player with serious weaknesses of the type claimed against him can score 25 goals a season.
47 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:17:37
48 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:19:34
49 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:21:40
After one game, Martin? Now that would be jumping to a conclusion far too quickly.
50 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:52:40
In the games I've seen him play for United, he's been a Rolls-Royce compared to the Morris Minors he's left behind and has scored every game. His interplay with the likes of Pogba and Rashford was excellent.
I maybe put it badly but it may just be that the small minority of us that slagged him were talking through their chocolate starfish.
I wish him well and hold no grudges against him. :-)
51 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:53:52
52 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:00:31
53 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:07:40
54 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:11:38
Anybody who says that he was always like that at Everton is simply wrong because he wasn't, 25 goals a season proves that. We lost a gem that we have no full or partial replacement for, United gained a gem and looked a far better side for it especially Rashford.
They lost at home to West Ham last year.
55 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:15:57
Or maybe they have decided that ineffectual play for 90% of the matches he plays in and blowing for tugs after 20 minutes is the future and could save them £100m?
56 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:29:42
57 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:29:42
Spend the money we got for him and you won't find a better striker right now.
Reckon he'll help get them the league but he's not good enough for the Champions League yet.
At the same time, who gives a damn, onwards and upwards.
58 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:34:26
59 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:37:14
60 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:43:12
61 Posted 13/08/2017 at 21:55:00
Rob and Chris, surely that is an incredibly narrow-minded view? We had good use from Rom and made a small fortune from him. Selling Rooney helped secure survival for the club. Players move on, we have to accept this and the benefit that we gain from it.
62 Posted 13/08/2017 at 22:00:30
Anyone doing well for another club once they leave us is of no real material benefit unless they have a clause in their contract which ensures that we are paid significant amounts based on their performance.
63 Posted 13/08/2017 at 22:12:32
64 Posted 13/08/2017 at 22:19:39
65 Posted 13/08/2017 at 22:20:17
66 Posted 13/08/2017 at 22:48:38
Lukaku was bottom BOTTOM - in the list for average ground covered by strikers in the premier league last season. He was in the bottom 6 for sprints. He also made 0 interceptions in a pressing team.
Okay, he put the ball in the net on occasions, but I would suggest this was when the wind was blowing our way. We would have finished 7th without him after all.
Give me a Jamie Vardy any day. That lad puts in all the hard yards, and he also scored 2 goals on the opening day of the season. Let's see if Lukaku turns up away at Arsenal shall we? After all, he never did for Everton!
67 Posted 13/08/2017 at 22:57:13
68 Posted 13/08/2017 at 23:29:54
I think most Toffeewebbers could've buried that one; however, the one he blazed over the bar was the mark of a man who just can't quite cut it against top class opposition.
69 Posted 13/08/2017 at 23:41:23
I just don't want to see anybody except Everton succeed in the league; otherwise, what's the point in it all? Any team spunking a billion quid on 'building' a team deserves loathing in my not very humble opinion. Cheers though, let's hope we see the worst of Lukaku when he plays against us and not the best!
70 Posted 13/08/2017 at 23:44:07
71 Posted 14/08/2017 at 06:55:33
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72 Posted 14/08/2017 at 07:42:30
Danny Broderick (#66) has to be the silliest post on here in a long time and reflecting the modern fans absolute obsession with stats. Sorry mate, no offence, but not all stats were created equal, and when you start making goals scored and yards covered and numbers of sprints (and interceptions ffs, for a goalscoring forward) then the plot is well and truly lost.
Lukaku will score a bagful more than Vardy this season and not just because is in a better team. Lukaku nailed on for Golden Boot IMO, but I'm not certain that means Man Utd are nailed on for the league. Ibrahimovic didn't too badly for them last season and was a better team player. So we see the classic TW debate of team player vs individual goalscorer being played out in reverse at Man Utd. I don't see the issue. Good teams will always get the goods from great players
74 Posted 14/08/2017 at 08:15:59
The stats Danny has pointed out show that Lukaku is a lazy fucker, which marries up to my and most other people's eyes whilst he was here. But stats also show he scores a lot of goals. Still too early to say if he'll carry on "working hard" for Man Utd once the novelty of sharing a shower with his best bud in the whole wide world dwindles.
I too would prefer a Vardy type player over Lukaku who only ever moved if there was a chance of scoring. The Vardy type player will score 15-20 goals as well as make goals for others (like Klaassen did for Rooney) with their unselfish runs. Therefore overall the team is better. No-brainer for me.
75 Posted 14/08/2017 at 08:20:06
76 Posted 14/08/2017 at 08:23:23
It'll be interesting to see how Man Utd get on with Rom. They clearly have far more than we had around him to step up when he goes missing / exploit the spaces made by defenders concentrating too much of their efforts on him and are going to be contenders this year.
I had a wry smile though at how much arm waving, finger pointing and bemoaning of misplaced passes were coming from Rom. It's obviously still all about him I'll be curious to see whether that starts to grate on his new set of team mates after a while or not. But, then again, if you need to be selfish to be a top striker he's destined to go all the way.
77 Posted 14/08/2017 at 08:28:44
The problem, as I said, comes with false equivalence. When you think yards covered are as important as goals scored you've lost the plot. Goals scored not yards covered is why Lukaku cost £75M (Not flippin' £90M) against £20M to trigger Vardy's release clause.
When you start thinking passes are as, or more, important than goals, then congratulations, you are Roberto Martinez.
78 Posted 14/08/2017 at 08:34:08
I support Everton but also love the game of football so looking only at Everton is narrow for me at least and remember that Everton have effectively bought their team too.
79 Posted 14/08/2017 at 08:56:57
£20M Vardy release clause? That true? I hate that little twat but would pay that for him in today's market!
80 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:06:34
Lukaku polarised opinion whilst playing for us and will undoubtedly continue to do so, I would have preferred him to stay and up his work rate as he obviously played well within himself. Have a fun week, Up The Blues!
81 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:06:39
82 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:07:58
In a team like ours with less pace and movement, that struggles often to retain possession and still (somehow) seems short of creativity and invention then perhaps someone like Vardy is more useful as he will make a aimless lump seem useful with his pace and might harry a defender into a mistake.
People who think Lukaku was not good enough for us need their head examining. The worst you could say was that he wasn't a good fit (though any striker who scores 25 goals for a workmanlike team is fitting okay in my eyes).
83 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:08:46
84 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:17:23
85 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:40:13
Injuries, maybe having to eventually try and change his style to suit the manager, and his ego, will get in the way I'm sure. He comes across as a nice boy does Romelu, and when the chips are down, I just think it's easier to blame others, than look at yourself for some people?
I watched him at Everton, I saw him greatly improve under Koeman, and I also know that he's a natural goalscorer, but I'm just not sure about "Rom"?
86 Posted 14/08/2017 at 09:51:01
The criticism of him, more than anything else, confirmed to me the absurdity of some Everton fans, and their inability to see weaknesses in other top strikers or appreciate Lukaku's considerable strengths. We are going to struggle for goals this season and his absence will he felt. Scoring 25 goals for us, giving our lack of creativity, was a brilliant feat.
87 Posted 14/08/2017 at 10:07:42
When he was doing his pointing business against West Ham yesterday, the ball was actually being played there very quickly. Rashford will be a great foil for him, and their midfield will create chance after chance. If he stays fit, I can't see him scoring less than 30 this season.
Doesn't tell me anything new about him he's a fantastic goalscorer and a very strong and powerful player. He scored shedloads of goals for us despite our lack of creativity in other departments; he'll score 50% more for a team that has Pogba, Matic, Rashford, Mata, Mkhytaryan etc in it. He's only 24.
Conte must be fuming, especially watching Matic in red too.
88 Posted 14/08/2017 at 10:54:33
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