Koeman denies Sigurdsson deal is faltering over fee

Thursday 10 August 2017  127 Comments  [Jump to last]
Ronald Koeman says that Everton are still negotiating with Swansea City over Gylfi Sigurdsson and stresses there is still time to get the transfer over the line.

The Telegraph claimed yesterday that the clubs are £5m apart on the fee but neither will budge even though a verbal agreement of £45m, paid in full without add-ons, had been reached earlier.

Koeman and the Blues were hopeful of having him in place by the time the new season kicked off but that now looks to be a remote possibility unless a deal can be hammered out within the next few hours.

The Telegraph's suggestion is that the negotiations are on the brink of collapse but Koeman played down those fears at his pre-match press conference this afternoon.

"It's still close," the manager said. "That has not changed. I heard some rumours that the talks broke down but we are still in negotiations with Swansea. I have heard the comments of Paul Clement, the manager of Swansea.

"Of course everyone would like news, that it is better for us and it is better for them. Everybody knows the window is difficult and it is always a game between the selling club and the buying club.

"But we are close. Let's hope we get an agreement as soon as possible."  


Reader Comments (127)

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer


Keith Gleave
1 Posted 10/08/2017 at 07:52:32
Walk away and look elsewhere. Whilst we are spending so much time on this we don't seem to be looking at a striker and a wide man with pace.
James Watts
2 Posted 10/08/2017 at 07:54:53
Keith. Just because we don't seem to be looking at other players doesn't mean we aren't looking at other players. Just because he hasn't reached the media isn't an indication.
Mike Berry
3 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:13:02
Buck Rogers is thawed out after being lost in space for 500 years, what was the first thing he said?

"Has that lad Sigurdsson signed for Everton yet?"

Time to move on as this deal is definitely lost in space!

Graham Johnson
4 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:13:28
I have heard and read so much drivel from the so-called 'expert' pundits whether Everton are good enough to break into the Top 6. What constitutes 'breaking' into the Top 6?

Do any of these football experts know how many times Everton have finished in the Top 6 in the last 13 years? It is 6 times, that's just about every 2nd year on average, and that was with a 'perceived' much poorer team and squad. We should only be discussing if we are good enough to break into the Top 4, not the Top 6.

Whilst there are no guarantees to finish in the Top 6, we have proven that we are certainly good enough. BTW only Arsenal have been a guaranteed certainty over that time period.

John McGimpsey
5 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:13:43
Time to move on, the stupid fees knocking about for this player yet Ross could go for half that. Mmmmm... time to get other priorities sorted.
Gordon White
6 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:29:35
Fed up with this. And with no news about a new striker.
John G Davies
7 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:33:59
If the report is true, and Swansea have tried to add £5million on to an agreed fee, Moshiri will stand his ground.
Sam Hoare
8 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:37:33
The moment they asked for over £40m, we should have stepped away. Far too much for a set piece specialist.

There's plenty of players out there and plenty with the ability to beat a man (a skill very lacking in our first team currently). Lanzini or Mahrez would add more balance or find the next Payet from France. Boudebouz who I think had the most assists in Ligue 1 last year has jus moved to Betis for just £7m!

How about a German? Max Meyer or Julian Brandt?

Move on. Get a winger with some pace and work rate and a striker who scores goals and can hold onto the ball.

Colin Glassar
9 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:40:10
Walk away but don't tell them. They want to play hardball? Let them but keep them waiting until the end of August and then tell them to get stuffed.
John G Davies
10 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:50:28
Sam,

There is a lad playing in the German league for Dortmund. Pulisic. USA born. Absolute star in the making and apparently available for £30 million.

James Watts
11 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:53:50
Wasn't this story from a couple of days ago and has since been noted on sites like icliverpool that negotiations are still on going and the deal is not close to collapse?
Matt Muzi
12 Posted 10/08/2017 at 08:56:46
I can see this one running till transfer deadline day!!
Sam Hoare
13 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:17:22
John G, yeah I like Pulisic alot. He would be quite a risk as he's still so young and not the finished article but the way I see it we aren't going to get top 4 this year anyway. Its about next season and the one after that when I hope we'll really be getting ready to challenge at the top.

Someone like Pulisic (if he continues to develop well) is going to be much more use for a team fighting at the very top than Sigurdsson I reckon as much as I rate the Icelander.

Matt Williams
14 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:18:52
I'm not surprised were baulking at the price £50 million way too much, even in these crazy times. If he was 24 or 25 maybe.
Clive Rogers
15 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:34:12
£50M is too much for a player who is almost 28. His value would plummet when he turns 30. Go for Mahrez, whose fee has reportedly reduced.
Michael Lynch
16 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:39:13
It would be interesting to know how this is playing out at the club. Are parallel discussions going on with other clubs about other players? Has the club set a deadline for this to happen? Are Koeman and the board on the same page about the negotiations?

I know Koeman, like all managers these days, tends to indicate that he knows which players he wants, and he leaves it to the club to get them, but is he banging on their door saying "Fuck this, get me Lanzini instead!" or is he just letting them get on with it?

Whatever, it's cast a real shadow over what was feeling like a very positive window. We've looked less than impressive in the pre-season, we're clearly lacking someone to replace Barkley let alone Lukaku, and Stoke are coming to our place in 48 hours...

Chris James
17 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:40:55
This is massively frustrating, but to be fair it does look like Swansea are also playing silly buggers a bit in their (understandable) attempts to keep their star player with the fee jumping all over the place.

If Sigurdsson = staying in the premier league then £45M income is probably quite small potatoes still.

The other thing I would say is that I don't believe for a second this means we aren't looking at other players. It's not like Walsh, Koeman, scouts and negotiating team are all camped in Swansea offices unable to do anything else.

As I've said on a post elsewhere the problem now is our likely targets are far more 'chewy', the equivalent of houses being in chains where clubs and players/agents are waiting to see how the land lies before pressing any buttons.

It's not just us, look at the situation with Van Dijk that's been rumbling on forever now and also Costa, Sanchez, Aguero sagas – will they stay or will they go. Even Barkley can be added to the list, despite 'interest' we've clearly not had a decent proper offer for him yet.

I would agree we need a target man in shorter order than we need a creative midfielder so hopefully conversations are ongoing there. I'd be more than happy with a Giroud but at this point I'd probably settle for a Benteke so we at least had some presence and power up front to give us an option.

Teddy Bertin
18 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:49:31
Sam (#6), "Find the next Payet from France."

Dream world...

Chris Williams
19 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:53:51
Apparently he won't be playing for them on Saturday again so nowhere near match fit.

Eugene Ruane
20 Posted 10/08/2017 at 09:58:25
Couldn't give a toss about Sigurdsson; going into the new season in a couple of days time, without a Premier League level, 20-goal-a-season striker is what's concerning me right now.

Have no idea if there's something amiss between Walsh, Koeman, Moshiri or..whoever, but something doesn't seem quite right.

I appreciate this comment is of no help and provides no illumination of any sort.

[On hols in France; weather windy today, so thought I'd have a look at TW...]

Barry Pearce
21 Posted 10/08/2017 at 10:33:28
I agree with Eugene above, something not quite right about this saga. Koeman realty wants this player; it will be interesting to hear Koeman's thoughts if the deal finally collapses.
Derek Thomas
22 Posted 10/08/2017 at 10:34:39
Should've walked when it went north of £40M about 3 weeks ago(?). Even in these high-priced days £40-45M might buy you a better version.

I get the 'spread the goals about a bit' in exchange for Lukaku doing it mostly on his own... But I still fancy trying to tempt Bournemouth with some of the £45M for Jason King.

Alex Carew
23 Posted 10/08/2017 at 10:52:56
Although I desperately wanted this signing, it just appears to have gone on too long. I like that we're stubborn but if we'd got Sigurdsson for £45M and Sandro for £10M, nobody would have been bothered. So £50+5M is the same. But, yeah if Mahrez is cheaper then it's a no-brainer for me.

However, we've got that many midfielders, I can't see where they all fit in? I'd rather spend £40-50M on a top quality striker. I can only assume Barkley and McCarthy and Besic will be gone in a few weeks.

Jim Knightley
24 Posted 10/08/2017 at 10:53:11
Get Lanzini instead.
Brent Stephens
25 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:07:23
Colin (#7), "Walk away but don't tell them. They want to play hardball? Let them but keep them waiting until the end of August and then tell them to get stuffed".

I like that, apart from the last bit. I'd just say nothing, ever.

John Robinson
26 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:09:19
Walk away. Can't have these smaller clubs trying to fleece us just because we have a few bob. Get Welbeck or Dembele in now!!
Sam Hoare
27 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:14:38
Meanwhile, Brighton have bought the Colombian livewire, Izquierdo for up to £16m who has scored 35 goals in 80 matches in the Belgian league. He could be the next Sadio Mane. Or he could be the next Odjidja-Ofoe.

But there are plenty of players out there apart from Sigurdsson and we apparently have a very large and expensive scouting system so surely they can identify other talents who are available.

I reckon it will still go through personally but i'm kind of hoping it doesn't. As Eugene says, we need a striker much more urgently anyway and everything seems very quiet on that front.

Michael Mcloughlin
28 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:16:09
I think Sigurdsson would be a fabulous signing but not at any price. I'm of the opinion we should have been in for a few such as Lanzini, Mahrez et al.

But I have to say I've noticed the negative slant from the media is back with a vengeance and this will cause disquiet amongst the fans. I have to say, I trust our management to come out of this transfer window with credit and good signings.

Michael Lynch
29 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:35:42
Forget about replacing Lukaku, looks like Koeman is giving plenty of game time pre-season to Calvert-Lewin to try to get the lad up to scratch as our one-up-top frontman option.

I can't see us getting any decent experienced striker in at this stage of the window, with the season about to start. Probably get some old clapped out journeyman on loan at the end of August.

Sigurdsson is probably our last chance of getting in one of our first-choice transfer targets, then we'll just have to make do with what we've got. Could be worse, but really lacking in the playmaker department, especially with Ross set on leaving.

Harry Wallace
30 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:48:05
Surely Swansea will drop from original cost? It's a negotiation, FFS.
James Hughes
31 Posted 10/08/2017 at 11:52:32
Koeman has a press conference at 2pm; maybe we will find out more then. [Crosses fingers...]
James Marshall
32 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:04:49
Swansea are doing exactly what we did over Stones and Lukaku (to an extent) so who are we to complain when we backed Everton to hold out under the same circumstances?

You pay the fee set by the club or you don't. Simple.

Mark Tanton
33 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:23:49
Michael, I nearly posted something similar the other day but shied away from it.

Playing in a central role, Calvert-Lewin is big and quick and knows where the goal is. Perhaps he might be an internal replacement to Lukaku. Certainly a cheap one.

Kevin Tully
34 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:28:53
First moan of the season – I've tried to remain positive!

Going into our first game without a proven Premier League striker is ridiculous. Considering the money we got for Lukaku, and the time we have had to replace him, it can only be described as a shambles. I don't know who is to blame – nobody outside of Finch Farm does – but it needs sorting and quickly.

Nicholas Ryan
35 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:29:11
'...There was a verbal agreement at £45m...' Really! So why is this still going on?
Colin Malone
36 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:31:28
It's paramount that we get this position on the field sorted asap. Let's hope Klaassen improves, because what I have seen up to now is, two holding midfielders then a big gap to the forward line. Until it's sorted, expect the Route One ball to Calvert-Lewin to continue.
Gareth Hughes
37 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:36:58
I agree, the asking price for Sigurdsson was too high, but surely this nails the myth that Everton have had a great transfer window.

Yes, we made a good start but everyone knew Lukaku was leaving from last season but did we have a top quality striker lined up to replace him in the mould of a Pickford or Keane? No, we signed a Spanish bits-and-pieces player who is neither a striker or no.10. And the washed-up has-been that is 'our Wayne'.

Steve Walsh is being paid a fortune to assemble an extensive scouting network and identify the best talent from around the world. Yet most of the first team squad members signed are familiar to anyone with a passing knowledge of English football.

Make no mistake, we will miss Lukaku, foibles and all, this season. He was top, top quality and we simply won't replace his goals with the signings we've made. To sell him and not have his successor lined up or signed up is unforgivable on the part of Walsh, Koeman, Kenwright and Moshiri.

Stephen Davies
38 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:37:07
Nicholas (#30),

It depends who the verbal agreement was with.?

Some may answer it was with Swansea. Who was the agreement with... the Swans' Chairman or their overseas American owners?

If the story of a verbal agreement is correct, I suspect it was with the Chairman and that the Owners (although agreeable to a sale) thought, "Hey, we can get more for him if we wanted, as we are in the driving seat."

Mark Tanton
39 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:42:06
The big transfers do tend to be protracted, frustrating affairs. A £50M transfer can be classed as one of the big ones of the summer and it is proving complicated.

It will be done though, it seems – Sigurdsson is basically dropped at Swansea and who wants a player who doesn't want to be there?

Swansea are making it difficult, it seems. Maybe we are too. At the end of these affairs, the player leaves and damage has been done. Stones eventually goes to Man City, like Lescott did. Coutinho hilariously goes to Barcelona, and Sigurdsson will come here. Doesn't stop us all tearing our hair out though.

Drew O'Neall
40 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:45:11
I suspect Swansea want this done so they can move on. They have an unsettled player who hasn't taken part in preseason and the leaks in the media are coming from them.

Everton are probably getting other player deals to advanced stages in the background so they know where they have wriggle room on which player's fee.

It can't be as simple as we won't increase our offer by £5M unless we have other deals contingent on the budget.

When does the TV money hit the account? I suspect not until after the season has started because the transfer 'window' is the most ingenious advertising vehicle in televised sport.

Ian Hollingworth
41 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:45:27
The transfer moves made early in the window filled us all with hope especially as we were all convinced there would be more. Rooney's return and the media attention that went with it heightened the feel good factor.

Now with 2 days until the big kick-off we appear to be getting filled with negativity, a return to the norm being an Evertonian.

Whatever is happening I hope it has not been a smokescreen and we really are in the same position. Come on Everton bring in those 3 players Ron has requested, lets get the feel good factor back and let us all move forward believing we really are moving forward.
COYB

Tony J Williams
42 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:53:07
Why does it seem to be that we can only undertake one transfer at a time?

Where is the striker we need? or the winger etc?

Bored shitless with this now.

Walking away from the deal is what Swansea want; they want to keep him but the fact he hasn't played any pre-season just means he is not going to be match-fit come the start of the season – no matter if he is playing in Blue or White.

George Cumiskey
43 Posted 10/08/2017 at 12:55:15
Even if we do sign Sigurdsson by the time he's match fit and ready to play our season could be over. What with the teams we have to play early on... and I'll say it again he's not going to bring any pace to the team.
John G Davies
44 Posted 10/08/2017 at 13:11:14
Tony J.

Pickford and Klaassen were signed on same day.

James Morgan
45 Posted 10/08/2017 at 13:29:13
Derek, I would rather us get Josh King from Bournemouth than Jason! In fact I've never heard of Jason King! Haha!!

He's not a bad player Josh King by the way, but he's only done it for one season so I'd hesitate having to rely on him as opposed to someone like Giroud who scores year after year.

As for Sigurdsson, their must be stubborn people sat round the negotiating table (I've never seen one of these tables) for this deal to still be not done. Surely if we offered £40m plus £10m add-ons, they would take it?

Dave Long
46 Posted 10/08/2017 at 13:45:22
https://vimeo.com/208175345

I'm in Urawa, Japan. This guy Silva looks good. Fast, scoring for fun and tore up the Borussia Dortmund defenders in a friendly last week.

Tony Cunningham
47 Posted 10/08/2017 at 13:49:29
Nicholas (#30), what I heard was that the verbal agreement was that we would pay all £45m up front. We then realised the stupidity of our offer and backtracked and so Swansea said if you want installments then it has to be £50m.

Who knows?

Ciarán McGlone
48 Posted 10/08/2017 at 13:54:36
Hmmmm... We've signed 3 other players who play in his position. This is an absolute shambles, whether he signs or not.
Matthew Williams
49 Posted 10/08/2017 at 13:55:28
Walk away... then phone Leicester.

Buy Mahrez... NOW!

Mark Tanton
50 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:06:16
The boss seems relaxed and happy enough.

Sigurdsson – just a matter of inch by inch, it seems.

Brian Wilkinson
51 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:10:31
I could not agree more with Eugene, we need to get in a striker, for me that is the one place we need filling, even more than the Sigurdsson or likewise midfielder we are chasing.

At £13 Million, I would take a punt on Winifred Bony and see if any other strikers become available later in the window.

James Newcombe
52 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:18:15
Bony? No thanks. Lazy git and managed 2 in 10 apps last season. He's not the answer. The likes of Rondon, King, Llorente, Dolberg, Dembele, would all be worth chasing!
Derek Thomas
53 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:19:50
James Morgan @45; Josh / Jason *shrugs*, must've had a 60s flashback.

Link

James Watts
54 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:21:07
Ciaran (#48). We've signed 3 players who can play in his position, sure. They can also play in other positions. We need a striker, but we're stronger overall and we're not complete.

Saying it's a shambles? Seriously. Get a grip.

Amit Vithlani
55 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:26:20
This transfer is becoming an unnecessary distraction for both clubs. I am still scratching my head at our supposed infatuation with Sigurdsson. I echo the calls to walk away and focus on getting a striker.
Brian Wilkinson
56 Posted 10/08/2017 at 14:35:04
I am not saying Bony as the top target but, at £13 Million and the right players around him, a Bony will get goals with a decent run out, then see who comes available later in the window.

£30 Million for Giroud or Benteke – both do not want to leave – or £13 Million for Bonny and £20 Million for Dembeale seems a better value option.

Sean Patton
57 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:08:16
Lads, there is no chance on Mahrez – he has said he wants a Champions League club.

I like Lanzini as he is more of the type we need. Also Gundogan and Dembele could be worth enquiring about as their clubs have too many midfield players and one of them might be interested in more playing time.

James Hughes
58 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:15:53
Koeman still has no news, this deal is 'still close' to completion and no bids for Ross. Rom is hard to replace but not impossible. Blah Blah, rhubarb, rhubarb and then some more bollocks.

Either we are about to announce a couple of shock signings, hence the silence, or we have just gone back to our old ways.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs come in with a low £25m bid for Ross on deadline Evening. Levy can be a shark.

John G Davies
59 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:16:20
Derek (#53),

Unless I am mistaken that's the chap who got collared for putting his Blackpool Rock through a hole in the public convenience wall. Inviting like minded chaps to participate.

Tim Sharpe
60 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:18:29
Tough love time I think. I don't feel he is worth £50m or what we really need. A 20-goal-a-season guy, another left-sided centre-back and a racing snake.

Gylfi strikes me as a luxury we don't need.

Jay Harris
61 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:19:38
Sean, I read that he said he wants European football and would prefer to stay in the Premier League.

We should be all over him and Van Dijk if we have top 4 ambitions and money to burn.

Nathan Jones
62 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:23:55
Fair play to Swansea, they've set their price and they are digging their heels in. We'd expect Everton to do the same and we have in the past.

It seams like a strange signing to me. I really really rate Sigurdsson, but we've signed two players this window who play where he plays and we still have (for now) Barkley...

On a different note it's funny how people were screaming for us to get rid of that useless lazy (20-goal-a-season) striker and are now demanding that we sign a 20 goal a season striker. As far as I can see it was one striker out and one striker, Sandro, in, plus Rooney and I think we'll see more of Calvert-Lewin.

I do worry about the pace though...

Jamie Barlow
63 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:24:31
Do a lot of you think we only work on one deal at a time?
Andy Meighan
64 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:36:00
Looks like Jim Whte's tweet "3 big signings that's going to make the Premier League sit up and notice" is gonna bite him on the arse. He's knows as much about Everton's transfer dealings as any of us on here, ie, Jack Shit.

Oh, and by the way, I hope we swerve this Sigurdsson deal He's not even that good. Not at that type of money anyway.

Clive Mitchell
65 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:45:13
He's not worth it. Offer Ross £7-8 million a year to stay instead. A win-win if ever there was one.
Paul Tran
66 Posted 10/08/2017 at 15:59:07
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in these negotiations! No doubt it has now got personal between some of the individuals involved and it's all down to face-saving and compromise on both sides.

Neither club is coming out of this saga well.

David Barks
67 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:01:18
Clive,

Barkley isn't negotiating. He wants to leave.

Mike Green
68 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:13:06
He probably is, David (#66) – just not with us! :)

I think it's all a bit like the final scene in Reservoir Dogs.

Koeman is pointing a gun at Mosh saying "I want the player"

Mosh is pointing a gun at Levien/Kaplan saying "Let him go"

Levien/Kaplan are pointing a gun back at Mosh saying "£50m", with another trained on Sigurdsson saying "you're going nowhere"

Sigurdsson is pointing a gun (albeit not well loaded) back at them saying "go on... please"

Those who have seen the film knows how it all ends.

Nitesh Kanchan
69 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:23:54
No offer for Barkley. He is staying.

Apparently some enquiries being made about Kalinic and the Sigurdsson transfer might happen this week. Win over Stoke and this might turn into a perfect week.

After that, though four counter-attacking games for which we don't have enough pace. Lookman should get a look in the game against Stoke for those upcoming games and so do Mirallas.

If we can get Sigurdsson early, then our chances of scoring in those games will increase with free kicks and dead balls.

Sean, Mahrez wants a top six club which means Champions League or Europa League, as said by Shakespeare.

Steve Cotton
70 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:28:51
Very good, Mike...
Jermaine Jennings
71 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:43:41
Just get the deal done.. even though ge isn't worth £50mill.
Matthew Williams
72 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:47:00
Mahrez, King, Gray and Wood and we're good to go, Blues.

Bring on the new season!

COYB

John Pierce
73 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:48:31
Paul, it feels like what you've said has a ring of truth about it. Arguably for both clubs, Swansea don't want to be pushed around, Everton not to be taken for mugs.

Is there rancour that, two seasons running, we've come for there 'perceived' best player?

Then we have the player. Why no transfer request? Some say a loyalty bonus is due. Well sack that off lad, put your request in and we'll pay you that bonus in your signing on fee. It's not like we haven't demonstrated we want the player?

Swansea clearly don't care that it's too late in the window to spend the money without being stung themselves and Everton are so far down the rabbit hole, backing out would look small time.

I like the player and do want him. I also think the money is the symptom but stupidity is the cause.

Phil Walling
74 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:49:03
Spurs expats in the Pafos Sports Bar are insistent that Sissoko is Everton's 'go-to' player if the Sigurdsson deal doesn't go through !

They seem to be willing him on us because last weekend they were seeing the Frenchman as a substantial part of a Barkley deal.

Wind-up? Who knows!

Liam Reilly
75 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:49:43
I think we need to walk away from this one; he's not had a pre-season of any note and we know from experience that its seriously hard to catch up. Add that to the weight of expectation on him and I can't see that ending well.

Look elsewhere; for £40M, there'll be plenty of suitors.


Dermot Byrne
76 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:54:21
Dead right, Paul. I've seen negotiations worth a lot of money get dragged out on the last few thousand. And usually because of egos and face saving.

When it gets close they should take the main negotiators out of it and two others, fresh to it, can make the agreement. The the two original egos can just blame them then and save their sensitive bloody ego. I bet I could get him for £49,999,999.

Dermot Byrne
77 Posted 10/08/2017 at 16:56:00
Koeman has just held surprise press conference to deny the Pafos Sports Bar rumour.
David Currie
78 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:09:15
I like Pulisic but I think he will end up at the RS. Lanzini is good as he can beat a man. Bony is utter shite and lazy – no thanks to him. We need mobility upfront.
James Hughes
79 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:10:07
Can you imagine the greeting Sissoko would receive IF he did sign.

What did he say? I am sure it was along the lines of: "Why would I sign for Everton?"

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/727338/Moussa-Sissoko-Tottenham-Reject-Everton-Transfer-Premier-League-Newcastle
Link

Iain Johnston
80 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:20:37
We could always sign Nasri & Bony for a combined £25m...

[Cue hasty retreat under dining table.]

Jay Harris
81 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:22:21
Hearing that we're in for Kalinic and that Giroud is dead in the water.
Ken Williams
82 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:23:53
Time to call it a day; the player ain't worth £30 million let alone £50 million. Everton are being stung; the only loser will be Sigurdsson staying at a club that will be fighting relegation again.
Steve Wood
83 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:25:00
Forget this deal and buy Marez for £40 million – he is better anyway.
Iain Johnston
85 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:34:17
Jay, I thought he was off to AC Milan?

He was crap at Blackburn – his goals were like hens' teeth... and you'd think he would have done well in an Allardyce team.

Mark Melton
86 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:35:30
Considering we've had the best close season in my lifetime, the sense of panic on here beggars belief. There will never be an answer to the Evertonian question, because if anyone ever finds the answer, Evertonians will change the question.
Andy Riley
87 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:37:13
All I can see here is that, whoever Everton are negotiating with at Swansea hasn't got the authority to close any deal and someone there keeps moving the goalposts.

If I recall, this was called as a done deal by I think Paul Joyce from the Times who is usually spot on with Everton information at £30-£35 million weeks ago and seems to have dragged on and on since then.

Martin Nicholls
88 Posted 10/08/2017 at 17:45:37
Phil (#73) – I doubt the Spurs ex-pats know anything more about their Club's transfer dealings than you (or I) know of ours.
Eddie Dunn
89 Posted 10/08/2017 at 18:01:00
During our early transfer dealings, there was much debate on here about the suggestion that we were no longer a "selling club". Some of our esteemed members were insisting that we no longer needed to sell before buying.

I was one of those that pointed out that the Lukaku sale was virtually a done deal for quite a while before we went on our shopping bonanza. At the moment, the momentum has ground to a halt, and the Siggurdson deals has dragged on and on.

Personally, although I like the player, this seal is not going to make or break our season. We are knee-deep in midfielders, and Mirallas, Rooney or even Klaassen could play at 10.

Our main problem is our inability to buy a recognised striker of some repute. Sandro is a young lad and can't be expected to contribute massively over a long season. Giroud seems uninterested, and there is little in the way of rumours filtering out of Finch farm.

I suspect the Barkley injury has caused a hiccup in our cash flow, which has impacted the Sigurdsson deal and is perhaps why we have so far been unable to present a new striker to the eager fans.

Two things are worrying: Firstly, the actual amount that the club has to spend. Secondly, how it could be that we have failed to replace Lukaku.

I think Koeman was all to aware that he needed to sell Barkley in order to fund his other targets. His rather crass announcements may have reduced the price, and then the subsequent injury has thrown a spanner into the works.

The team has some good components, and there could be a good season ahead, but investment in a striker, a winger and a left back could make the difference from mid-table to chasing the Europa League slots again. Unless we come up with a couple of big surprises, I think a top six finish is way out of our scope.

Peter Howard
90 Posted 10/08/2017 at 18:35:01
James (#58)

If Levy offers £25m for Barkley, then we would be the sharks biting his hand off.

Rob Halligan
91 Posted 10/08/2017 at 18:57:33
Sky Sports News reporting that the deal is imminent.
Christy Ring
92 Posted 10/08/2017 at 19:29:47
We are £5m apart in the valuation of Sigurdsson for the last 3 weeks; something doesn't add up. I'd prefer if we moved on, sign Mahrez, a striker, not Kalinic, I know he's done well in Italy, but he couldn't hack it in England, and keep Barkley.
Terry Hughes
93 Posted 10/08/2017 at 19:43:00
I think we should just pay Swansea the full asking price of £50 million, try and find a buyer for Barkley for £25 million and then approach Chelsea for Batshuayi.
Jay Harris
94 Posted 10/08/2017 at 20:04:43
Iain,

Apparently Milan's bid was rejected out of hand and it is claimed Everton have met the valuation but the player prefers to stay in Italy and needs to be persuaded.

As Christy said, his last stint in England didn't work too well but, as he has matured, he seems to have done very well in Serie A.

Lee Jackson
95 Posted 10/08/2017 at 20:07:12
Roll on 7am (PST) Saturday so I can wake up and actually watch some footy – hard to believe that amongst all this transfer tomfoolery there is actually a thing called 'a game of football'. :-)
Bobby Mallon
96 Posted 10/08/2017 at 20:41:30
Das Bost – buy him now... he's perfect for Everton
James Lauwervine
97 Posted 10/08/2017 at 22:35:42
£50m (or £45m offer) for this player is just ridiculous. Yes, inflated market and club needing to hang on to their best payer – but just fucking leave this and move on, Everton.
Iain Latchford
98 Posted 10/08/2017 at 22:47:01
I think we should buy Mahrez, then sell him to a team in the Champions League. Then we can use that money to buy Sigurdsson. Sell Barkley to Spurs then buy Giroud. Then sell Giroud because he didn't want to come in the first place. Use that money to buy Riquelme. Job done.
John Otway
99 Posted 10/08/2017 at 22:59:22
Iain. Well aren't you a hoot! Do thank your Dad for his 30-goal season.
Iain Latchford
100 Posted 10/08/2017 at 23:04:08
My pleasure. Would be worth a few quid now.
Nigel Munford
101 Posted 10/08/2017 at 23:21:24
Dermot, you forgot the £0.99!!
Jack Convery
102 Posted 11/08/2017 at 00:14:02
Vardy, Sigurdsson and Van Dijk – you know it makes sense.
Bob Conway
103 Posted 11/08/2017 at 00:47:16
Time to move on from this one. Grossly overrated. He's a big fish in a small pond. Couldn't produce at Tottenham who are a similar club to ourselves, they swiftly moved him on.

Persist with Ross. He's one of us who I suspect has got a bad agent.

Eddie Dunn
104 Posted 11/08/2017 at 00:50:41
John Otway, good of you to thank Ian latchford for his dad's 30 goals...

May I also thank you for your wonderful music with Wild Willy Barret. "Beware of the flowers, coz I'm sure they're gonna get you yeah!"

Andrew James
105 Posted 11/08/2017 at 01:37:39
@Eddie Dunn,

I agree with most of what you write. We started off aggressive in the market in the knowledge that Big Mouth would pay for the incoming players but since he went and we kinda broke even, the signings have dried up.

While the investment in the youth have been good, our signing of Martina (which in my opinion was unnecessary) has rather re-aligned what our real budget without sales is.

Now we have one playmaker who we cannot sell and another who we've been negotiating the purchase of for what feels like longer than normal.

And we still don't have that centre forward.

But to make you all feel better, Danny Rose just planted a dagger in the backs of his mates at Spurs and Coutinho is leaving our loveable neighbours. We just need Pep to put John Stones in goal, Mourinho to assault the female physio at Old Trafford, and Chelsea to fire Conte, and the league is ours!

Gordon Crawford
106 Posted 11/08/2017 at 02:09:11
These next few signings will for me make or break our season. If we don't get the players that we all know we need, then I don't see us finishing higher than seventh. We need two strikers and a left-sided defender. I really don't care if we get Sigurdsson as long as we get these players.
James Watts
107 Posted 11/08/2017 at 03:10:34
Gordon. Agreed. 100%! Well apart from two strikers as I don't believe we are looking for two from everything Koeman has said.

I'm guessing he sees Calvert-Lewin with Rooney & Sandro as back ups to that position. Not saying it's right, just that what I believe he's thinking.

Dennis Ng
108 Posted 11/08/2017 at 04:18:39
I have only seen bits and pieces of Sandro but I feel very confident that he will exceed expectations. For that matter, I don't think failing to get Sigurdsson or even a highly valued #9 will break our season. It would certainly raise our profile and top 4 chances.

However, when it comes to ego and ways of doing business, I am all for hard-ball negotiations. Give them an inch and they will ask for a foot. I rather we delay Sigurdsson's purchase till end of the month just to really screw with them negotiations wise.

Tony Everan
109 Posted 11/08/2017 at 06:42:32
I think we will sign Sigurdsson (sooner or later); what worries me more is the quality of striker and left sided centre half we will get. These latter 2 positions look to have been given a lower priority to Sigurdsson.

I am concerned we will end up with bargain-basement backup for a striker (Ulloa or similar) and a defender on a loan deal.

Peter Warren
110 Posted 11/08/2017 at 07:18:15
Tony – I agree.

I got shouted down about how foolish it was letting Galloway go without backup. But that fails into comparison that Lukaku has gone, we knew for years and yet here we are without a striker (or two).

Whilst Sandro and Mirallas I suppose can do a job they're best suited elsewhere and its too big an ask for Dominic. Crazy, crazy management.

Kim Vivian
111 Posted 11/08/2017 at 07:53:17
Ha ha nice one, Andrew. Just needs Arsenal to give us Giroud, eh?

And Helen – you mean Bas Dost. Didn't know much about this guy but he does seem to know where the goal is...

Trevor Lynes
112 Posted 11/08/2017 at 09:49:28
If we get some sort of positive result at Stoke this saga will continue IMO. This boardroom apart from Moshiri has not changed.

We have spent almost 15 to 20 million pounds on youngsters for the future yet are stilling failing to agree a fee for a player who will walk into our starting eleven. The two priority players we need are a play maker who scores a few goals plus a top quality striker. This has been obvious during Lukaku's spell with us.Can any fan imagine how Lukaku would have benefitted if we had provided a proper play maker and decent second striker. I believe that we could have broken into that top six or even top four with just those two additions to our squad. Instead we floundered and drew games we could have won.Now I can see that we have strengthened the defensive side of our game but actually badly weakened our attack potency. No one will convince me that Sandro and Rooney will compensate for the loss of Lukaku. By the time we sign Sigurdsson and get him bedded in we will have played at least three matches.I just hope that our early results against the top teams are not going to jeapordize our season due to lack of fire power.

Mike Gaynes
113 Posted 11/08/2017 at 13:43:59
John G (#10) and David (#78), agree Pulisic would be fantastic... IMO he is already the most talented player in USA history. But there's no chance. He's not leaving Dortmund this year. They love him and he loves it there, and he won't risk a move one year before the World Cup... he needs to play and knows it. The kid already dismissed the idea of moving to Bayern or the RS.

And when he does go, probably next summer, it won't be to us (unless we're in the Champions League then) and it won't be for anything resembling £30 million.

Steve Ferns
114 Posted 11/08/2017 at 15:44:49
I still think we should try for one of Kasper Dolberg or Moussa Dembele (Celtic). They would definitely be a risk, due to their age, unproven ability in the top league, and most of it is gambling on raw potential.

Dolberg is Danish but speaks good English and surely some Dutch. Koeman should be able to mould him. He played in the UEFA Cup final, he knows Klaassen inside out. He seems like less of a gamble of the two. I have no idea on his price, surely £25m + based on Klaassen's price, maybe rising to £50m with an "English tax".

A centre forward is key for me. We need someone good in the air, who knows where the net is, can hold up the ball, and can lead the line. The guy needs to be a bit more static or fixed as a number 9, so Sandro, Rooney, Klaassen, and Sirgurdsson or Barkley can play off him.

I think that when you have fluid players, like those mentioned above, having someone who is an old fashioned, more static or fixed as a number 9, who will be where you would want him to be (ie, in the box) or pushing the defence back due to his height, and as an option long down the pitch, can create the space for the other players to drop off and exploit.

This is the player (position / player type – I mean rather than Dolberg himself) that I think is key. There's a hole in the team for a number 9 and filling it should be priority.

Soren Moyer
115 Posted 11/08/2017 at 16:26:52
To me, it looks like our board is waiting to sell/offload a few players before releasing the funds.
Trevor Peers
116 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:38:58
RS, according to the bookies are now 8/1 to sign Sigurdsson, with Coutinho believed to be singing for Barca on Thursday.
Bet they won't be pissing about arguing over the fee. If it happens it guarantees yet another humiliation and drubbing for us in the next derby game, when he scores the winner.
Ray Roche
117 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:44:44
Trevor, and Everton are 1/10
Andrew McGreavy
119 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:21:00
SKY sports alert Everton agree deal £45 million deal
Paul Kossoff
120 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:21:18

Breaking transfer news away from this game and Liverpool's rivals Everton have agreed a deal to sign Swansea's Gylfi Sigurdsson for a fee believed to be around £45m.
Brian Williams
121 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:23:28
Yeh yeh, behave yerself Paul.
Daniel Lawrence
122 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:24:37
Imagine if he fails his medical!!
Paul Kossoff
123 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:27:59
On the beeb fee agreed, £45 million.
Paul Tran
124 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:29:09
According to Sky Sports, agreed at 45m, medical tomorrow.
Chris Williams
125 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:34:50
Wales Online saying £45m plus add ons. Medical tomorrow.

Not dissimilar from fee reported a few weeks ago.

Trevor Peers
126 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:41:26
Hala fckin ula ! Ziggy plays guitar haha
Ray Robinson
127 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:46:18
Only the spiders from Mars to sign now - i.e. forwards!
Brent Stephens
128 Posted 15/08/2017 at 20:50:41
More doom! Get in! And the window continues.
Paul Kossoff
129 Posted 15/08/2017 at 23:18:14
Danny Welbeck next?

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

» Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site.