Barkley and Coleman in Europa League Squad

Tuesday 5 September 2017  41 Comments  [Jump to last]
Both Ross Barkley and Seamus Coleman have been named by Everton in their squad of players for the Europa League Group stages, despite them being out for at least another month as they recover from injury.

Goalkeepers

Jordan Pickford, Maarten Stekelenburg, Joel Robles.

Defenders

Leighton Baines, Michael Keane, Ashley Williams, Phil Jagielka, Cuco Martina, Seamus Coleman, Mason Holgate, Callum Connolly, Jonjoe Kenny.

Midfielders

Morgan Schneiderlin, Ross Barkley, Kevin Mirallas, Aaron Lennon, James McCarthy, Idrissa Gueye, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Davy Klaassen, Muhamed Besic, Tom Davies, Nikola Vlasic, Ademola Lookman.

Forwards

Sandro Ramirez, Wayne Rooney, Dominic Calvert-Lewin  

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Michael Kenrick
1 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:29:08
Something a little puzzling there... what's Callum Connolly doing on the list? We report elsewhere he is out on loan for the season at Ipswich Town.

No confirmation of this Europa League squad list on the Everton website; I presume the Mirror got it from Uefa?

Brian Williams
2 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:29:47
No Bolasie? Thought he'd be nearing contention come the end of the group stages.
Stephen Brown
3 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:45:18
Isn't Vlasic cup tied? He played against us!
Colin Glassar
4 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:47:33
Vlasic played in a qualifier, Stephen, therefore he qualifies.
Stephen Brown
5 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:49:52
Cheers Colin! Good news!
Rick Pattinson
6 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:56:37
No Niasse... what's wrong with the world?
Steve Ferns
7 Posted 05/09/2017 at 19:59:11
We need to register so many English / "trained in country" players (think it's 4) and we need to register so many "trained at the club" players (think this is an additional 4). Players under 21 do not need to be registered. The fact that we have registered so many makes me think we are satisfying this criteria.

There is exactly 4 academy players in that list. Probably us being safe in case Rooney does not count as one having left and come back. Ross Barkley, Tom Davies, Callum Connolly and Jonjoe Kenny.

Mason Holgate and Dominic Calvert Lewin do not count as they have not done 3 complete years at Everton, under the age of 21.

Steve Ferns
8 Posted 05/09/2017 at 20:01:11
Yes, there is exactly 4 academy players in that list. Probably us being safe in case Rooney does not count as one having left and come back.
Ian Bennett
9 Posted 05/09/2017 at 20:03:44
Ross Barkley will be like a new signing.
Tony Abrahams
10 Posted 05/09/2017 at 20:15:02
Like Krøldrop!
Steve Ferns
11 Posted 05/09/2017 at 20:22:10
Rooney does not count:

A “club-trained player” is defined as a player who, between the age of 15 and 21, irrespective of their age or nationality, has been registered with their current club for a period, continuous or non-continuous, of three seasons or of 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21

Kevin Prytherch
12 Posted 05/09/2017 at 21:15:29
Doesn't Rooney count then?? If he left when he was 18 then he was at Everton when he was 15, 16 and 17. That's 3 years.

Or have I got it wrong somewhere?

Frank Wade
13 Posted 05/09/2017 at 21:20:56
Steve (#11), my wasted hours whiled away playing the Football Manager PC strategy game can pay off sometimes.

Rooney is categorised in the game as Home Grown at Everton. It doesn't matter that he went away to Man Utd and came back as far as the regulation is concerned. The game is very accurate on regulations like this.

The key point is whether a player was trained at a club for 3 years between the age of 15 and 21. Rooney born October 1985 left Everton in August 2004, 3 months short of his 19th birthday.

The Callum Connolly inclusion is strange as he is on loan to Ipswich until January at least.

Dermot Byrne
14 Posted 05/09/2017 at 21:33:38
Poor old Robles.

Well... not poor, but you know what I mean.

Michael Kenrick
15 Posted 05/09/2017 at 23:06:05
The Everton website is now carrying this same list – including Callum Connolly, who is supposedly on loan with Ipswich Town. Go Figure!
Steve Carse
17 Posted 05/09/2017 at 23:50:07
Shame that the best midfielder on the books is not included – I'm talking Liam Walsh.
James Stewart
18 Posted 05/09/2017 at 23:53:57
No Bolasie has to be a mistake? Niasse omission seems silly considering there will be dead rubber Europa League games where we shouldn't be risking our only striker.
David Hallwood
19 Posted 06/09/2017 at 00:10:12
BTW does anyone have any info on Seamus? Is he back in full training or has he played any games?
Chris Stone
20 Posted 06/09/2017 at 09:32:52
James Stewart, it's okay – in the dead rubber games, we can simply play a 4-6-0 formation. We have enough midfielders after all!!
Frank Wade
21 Posted 06/09/2017 at 09:48:08
Chris and James, dead rubber games? I wish I shared your optimism. Have you guys being paying attention in class?

Steve, agree re Liam Walsh. Hope he can do well at Birmingham City.

Chris Stone
22 Posted 06/09/2017 at 09:58:39
Frank – I'm being a touch comedic, but yes it is a testing group and nothing taken for granted. Depends on selections and performances on the day, as ever. Plus luck!

However, I've lamented elsewhere the failure to get another striker so that's where the 4-6-0 joke comes in! :-)

Rob Young
23 Posted 06/09/2017 at 10:16:52
Arsenal had 40+ players on their list, so there seems to be no limit.

Why is Bolasie not on there? Makes no sense to me at all. Unless there is no way he will be fit in time to play any part before the end of the year?

Paul Newton
24 Posted 06/09/2017 at 11:11:49
Perhaps the Niasse omission is because the club expects him to go on loan to Fenerbahçe (I read somewhere that the transfer deadline in Turkey is later than here).

Or perhaps Koeman is just being stubborn, which would be ridiculous given the lack of strikers.

Alan J Thompson
25 Posted 06/09/2017 at 15:41:37
Really don't understand why it can't just be players registered with the club before a certain date, or is this just Everton being Everton?
Mark Frere
26 Posted 06/09/2017 at 16:10:20
Why is there no Luke Garbutt? We don't have any other recognized left-back in our squad. Is Baines supposed to play all League and Cup games? What happens if he gets injured?

I know Garbutt didn't have the most successful time out on loan but he's about the best we've got as cover and he did do well a couple of years ago in Europa League.

Robert Leigh
27 Posted 06/09/2017 at 17:41:32
Mark Frere - totally agree.

I don't know who plays left back other than Martina if Baines gets injured, and he's another right footer so we'll have him cutting in and the LM/LW cutting in!

Jon Withey
28 Posted 06/09/2017 at 17:57:48
Suppose Martina would move to the left and Jonjoe or Holgate would cover right-back.
John Pierce
29 Posted 06/09/2017 at 18:19:26
Have a club ever treated a player so poorly as Niasse? Troubled that the club in question is my own.

Dermot Byrne
30 Posted 06/09/2017 at 18:39:44
Not knowing anything behind the scenes, on face value, I agree John Pierce. But wonder why nobody took him?

Hard to believe we would shell out money just to carry on ruining a career. If we did, I would be appalled.

James Stewart
31 Posted 06/09/2017 at 18:46:30
Funes Mori also missing? Bolasie was on track to come back before Christmas so I don't understand that one at all. Garbutt looks finished with us but I agree, in the absence of no-one else, we should be using all resources at our disposal.
Dave Williams
32 Posted 06/09/2017 at 18:55:42
I can't help but think something went on with Niasse to render him such a "persona non grata". Was he ever convicted of thumping his wife or was the story wrong?

To be ostracised just for having no first touch is very extreme and we have had plenty of players over the years who were worse than him but survived to stay at Goodison Park for a number of years. It just doesn't smell right!

John Pierce
33 Posted 06/09/2017 at 19:04:51
Sell him or play him! Sure we don't know behind the scenes but if a player is deemed not good enough then it harms both parties not to sell.

The iffy reason that it was down to agent's fees stinks. A third party to blame. Even if true, swallow it and move on. Absolutely no reason not to sell of he's been left out of a squad. All Everton are doing is degrading the player's value and cutting their own nose off.

Again, I ask why this story, a peculiarly negative one, is met by the club with a stonewall of silence.

A communications officer is rightly needed especially when our manager is neither elegant in English and is as blunt as a hammer too.

Slick and progressive, Everton are not in the transfer market.

Darren Hind
34 Posted 06/09/2017 at 19:11:14
In an attempt to create a no nonsense persona from the outset, Koeman told anybody who would listen that, if Niasse wanted to play first team football, he would have to move to another club.

It's strange that, after 50 games of the ugly stuff, people are still calling for more time for Koeman. What a pity he burned all bridges with Niasse by unceremoniously cutting him adrift before he had seen him play a competitive game.

Joe O'Brien
35 Posted 06/09/2017 at 19:47:47
Darren will you please for the love of god change the record with the Koeman bashing. It's getting very very boring for me... and I would reckon 90% of the rest of ToffeeWebbers.
Darren Hind
36 Posted 06/09/2017 at 20:39:49
Joe O'Brien – please stop talking nonsense. There is probably 20 current threads running and I haven't posted on about 80% of them – feel free to check.

You've just gone on the Baines thread bleating because I didn't mention him???

The conversation here has gone around to talking about Niasse and his absence. The point is a valid one. If you can counter it, then do so.

Bleating about a point because you don't like it and don't have a counter argument? ... now that really is boring.

Joe O'Brien
37 Posted 06/09/2017 at 21:38:35
Darren, in fairness, you don't need much encouragement to turn any thread into your criticism of Koeman... I've seen it and other people have pointed out it also; am I wrong?
Don Alexander
38 Posted 06/09/2017 at 22:43:45
Apart from whoever sanctioned his signing in the first place nobody (perhaps outside of the S.F.O) knows why Niasse was signed by Everton.

Given what immediately happened re playing him after we'd signed him it seems Martinez wasn't involved in signing him.

I say this because clearly Martinez wasn't averse to selecting and playing wankers at all, but the only reason given for not playing Niasse was an alleged wrist injury, and serious one given how long it persisted.

And then Hull stepped in, for five months and 17 games during which he gizzes all of four goals in a failed effort to prevent their relegation, and then comes back to us, allegedly on £2.5 million a year for another three years according anyone with a similar affinity to him, still full of what it takes to spurt us into better than the Europa qualification we achieved without him.

You couldn't make it up, and for the £6million a year we're allegedly paying Koeman, we shouldn't have to.

And that ain't Koeman's fault, by the way.

Brent Stephens
39 Posted 06/09/2017 at 22:57:44
Joe #35 / 37, go to the top of the page, select Search at top right, insert a poster's name and press go. You'll soon see the various threads the selected person contributes to.
Joe O'Brien
40 Posted 07/09/2017 at 00:50:57
Cheers, Brent.

Interesting reading.. and yeah, I don't think Darren rates our manager that much.

Darren Hind
41 Posted 07/09/2017 at 04:06:17
Joe,

You will now have recognised I don't post on over 80% of the threads here – laying bare your claim that I turn every thread into a Koeman-bashing thread.

The search button which I have just tried for the first time myself (I didn't realise it works for names) is indeed very revealing, but can only assume anyone who needs to do it about me is new to this parish.

It reveals all sorts of things, the most interesting to me is how many people simply will not hear a single word against the manager, how seldom they counter a point other than to try to shout it down (see post 35). Hell, I've just seen one guy admit he missed a game then decide he wanted to join the fun of the thread and claim he saw it.

There is no doubt that when I DO post, it is nearly always related to the manager... but their are reasons for that and although the ugliness of our football is the primary one. It most definitely isn't the only one.

I said earlier that I believe some people will go to extraordinary lengths to deny criticism of our manager. They will blame everything from the wealth and strengths of other clubs to the "fact" that our players are "wankers", "thick", "liars", "greedy", "crap"... No one is off limits.

Go to the Barkley medical thread. A prime example. Barkley would have to be about eighty seven to be guilty of half the things he's accused of. Some of the claims on that thread came straight from the school yard, but for some, It's far easier to make up shit about the kid than admit the manager made a Grade A twat of himself from day one of this saga.

If ever I tell an untruth about Koeman, something which is factually wrong, I want somebody to point it out to me and I would have no problem retracting and apologising. However, people whining simply because the points are raised or who's best defence is to wait for a typo, spelling mistake or to argue a point that was never raised don't interest me and they wont deter me.

This is my club, I want to be proud of the way we play, not ashamed and I make no secret of, or apologies for the fact that I want the guy responsible to be gone.

John G Davies
42 Posted 07/09/2017 at 08:41:24
Brent 39,

Had a go at that.
Very interesting results.

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