Reports: Everton deal for Walcott close

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Updated Everton look set to make their second big-money signing of the month this week with a deal for Theo Walcott close according to reports.

Paul Joyce of The Times, routinely a reliable source once moves reach this point, has tweeted that a £20m transfer of the 28-year-old forward from Arsenal is in the final stages of negotiations following talks between the two clubs yesterday.

That followed a piece by the similarly reliable Andy Hunter of The Guardian who said that the Blues had made progress on a deal and were hopeful of concluding the switch this week.

And now there are reports that the England international has travelled to Finch Farm to discuss the transfer and undergo a medical.

Walcott has yet to start a Premier League game for the Gunners this season and with the 2018 World Cup on the horizon is on the lookout for a new opportunity that would guarantee him more game time.

A move to either Goodison Park or St Mary's Stadium in Southampton has been mooted since the transfer window opened — Sam Allardyce confirmed his interest in signing the player last Friday — but the Blues' willingness to match the player's £110,000 wages and stump up Arsenal's asking price looks to have given them the edge.

 

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Richard Lyons
1 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:11:56
Good news (I think). However, I have to ask myself, how desperate must an Arsenal player be to want to move to Everton at this time??
Christopher Timmins
2 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:22:48
Can he play left back?
Kenny Smith
3 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:25:44
I posted the other day than I’m not sure what he brings other than pace but at the minute that will do. He should provide some sort of an outlet along with Bolasie and support for Cenk.

Now for a left back


Michael Stevenson
4 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:39:42
Ha ha Christopher! :-) Many a true word said in jest mind you .! Sigh.
Mark Tanton
5 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:40:59
Ah, we’re at the ‘close’ stage. Next comes the ‘hitch’ stage.
Danny O'Neill
6 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:48:31
He's a bit quick that's about it. Inconsistent and never really settled into a position. Most naturally see him as a wide player; believe he fancies himself as a forward or number 10.

Oh well, off load one overly-hyped English player who has yet to rise to expectation or predictions and in with another. And £5m out of pocket at the same time!!

I mean over-hyped in the sense both were predicted to be "world" class in some quarters.

Hopefully I am wrong and forced to eat the humblest of pies.

Brian Porter
7 Posted 16/01/2018 at 06:53:54
Get him in and replace Bolasie with his pace and his goals. Bolasie has little or no end product and is clearly a long way from being match fit at present. At least Walcott has goals in his arsenal, (excuse the pun), something sadly lacking in Bolasie'so game. I for one would be happy to see him in a blue shirt.
Philip Ashton
8 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:05:39
He hasn't played a game all season.
Tony Everan
9 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:21:58
Mark , the 8 stages of an Everton transfer.

Deal Close ,
The Hitch,
Imminent ,
The greedy agent standoff delay,
The late West Ham swoop link ,
Face to face crisis meeting with Billy,
Extortion fee £2m extra ,
Signed.

Ian Bennett
10 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:23:18
Plus

Goal threat and pace.
Should hit the ground running.
Better than Bolasie, Mirallas and Lennon.

Negative

Career going backwards.
Big wages.
No resale value.
Iffy injury record.
Iffy end product.
Not going to get better.
How much hunger does he have when things go shit?

He's an Everton signing. No top 6 team want him, for the limitations listed. Wilf Zaha is the better long term option, but we aren't capable of attracting genuine top 6 players. I wonder why we don't beat the top 6 teams, win trophies or make the champions league????

Kunal Desai
11 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:24:23
Waste of money. Another sicknote who will be spend more time injured than playing. Then again if it were me and Everton are going to pay me an obscene amount of money I would also jump at the chance. Everton is a retirement home and for players that want a big final payoff in there career.
This club is just fucking daft, it will never learn.
Conor Skelly
12 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:30:16
Watch. Goodison will love him. He's fast and exciting. If he stays fit, he'll be a real boost for the rest of the players.
Tony Everan
13 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:31:24
I too think that Wilfred Zaha would be a better signing.

He is young , stays relatively injury free ,a investment with resale, and improving. Could we attract him though?

The one ex Man Utd player we should have got !

Graham Coldron
14 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:33:42
He is probably better than anything we have got at the moment and just based on that yardstick ( in theory) he should be a success - on a separate issue Alan Parry last night whilst commentating on the manure game came out with a corker " Stoke have spent 10 consecutive season in the Premier league only the current top 6 clubs have achieved this feat " Brilliant eh?
Peter Hadwin
15 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:41:12
He is an upgrade on Bolasie and Lennon but not as good as Zaha. Not much chance of getting Zaha so maybe Walcott is the best we can get. At least he will provide pace and goals to our forward line. Hope he likes tracking back and never getting into the opposing half.
Still can’t believe we are chasing Walcott when we need a left back so desperately. Hopefully we have deals in the pipe line, but I am not confident.
If the left back does not materialise this window then I am afraid our DOF should pack his backs on February 1st.
Mark Tanton
16 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:47:06
Excellent Tony, spot on.
Jim Bennings
17 Posted 16/01/2018 at 07:56:15
Zaha is hardly likely to join Everton , he’s going to move to a club in the top 6 if he leaves Palace.
Si Pulford
18 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:02:43
Zaha won't sign for us and is a better long term prospect. But one of these players scored 19 goals last season. You'd think it was Zaha (who's never got close to double figures) judging by the negativity on here.

Walcott improves us and is a bargain at that price in today's market where Troy Deeney was being mooted as a £35 million player just a few months ago.

Will Mabon
19 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:05:12
Another signing worthy of a big club with ambition and the funds to back it up...
Ralph Basnett
20 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:05:54
I do think people need to look at his injury LIST properly, it is not as bad as people think!

He is not as injury prone as you think, he has just had Sanchez and Giroud in front of him.

Oliver Brunel
21 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:08:11
I may be wrong about Walcott but my own opinion is that he is another headless chicken who should have done the 100m rather than football. I don't rate him , he has no end product, doesnt create chances and is almost permanently injured. I wonder why everyone is in for Sanchez and noone is in for Walcott. Do you think Bayern/Juventus/Liverpool/ Leipzig would be in for this guy? Its a great move for Walcott- welcome to a team with no ambition, no passion and no work ethic. He will fit in really well. Thanks Walshy!
Brian Williams
22 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:20:08
All the football manager dreams, "we should get this fella" "we should be after the other fella."
I'm surprised Walcott is even considering coming to us let alone some of the other fantasy football players getting mentioned.
We're a mid table club with aspirations but, as yet, no clear plan to change that.
We're NOT going to attract the best players from other clubs, only the ones who are unhappy with their situations at those clubs or fringe players from clubs above us.


Comparing Sanchez and Walcott is pointless just as comparing ANY top, top player with one that just isn't anywhere near as good is pointless.

One would laugh if he was asked about coming to Everton, the other one (it would appear) may consider it.

Craig McFarlane
23 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:24:22
I, for one, am excited about Walcott. 19 goals last season as a bit part player bodes well, but also the way he takes his goals - the lad can finish with accuracy, often finding the corner of the net. He is also a much needed injection of pace to our pedestrian attack. So long as he comes in as well as, not instead of, a LB, then I'm all for it. I also think he's going to be bang up for it with a point to prove as 1) it's a WC year and 2) to show Arsenal what they were missing by not playing him regularly

Paul Birmingham
24 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:27:48
Stating the obvious we desperatel6 Ned a true left footed left back. We have Lookman, Vlasic and Bolasie on the wings.

Likewise we have a collection of so called midfield players but no balance in the team.

I think we are like the rabbit in the headlamps and buying for the sake of it..You wonder when the cash flow will stop. If any players are sold in this window I sense we will make a significant loss.

Sums up this mess the club has built for itself.

Jim Bennings
25 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:28:03
Players like Walcott, Sigurdsson etc we can sign and if we can get Walcott back to something like last season it’s a decent signing.

Players like Zaha, Mahrez, Sánchez etc , they are not in the shop we go to , those players aren’t leaving their respective clubs to join Everton in the current climate , that’s a simple FACT!

Colin Glassar
26 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:30:49
I’ve compared him to Landon Donovan so I hope he can have the same impact. Now let’s get Nzonzi (or someone similar) to add some muscle, and skill, to our MF and Luke Shaw (on loan if necessary) so we can have a proper LB at last.

With Tosun, Walcot, Nzonzi and Shaw on board I think we could even get to that magical 7th spot again.

Melissa Connolly
27 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:35:38
Well, I'm happy. Surprised he'd consider us to be honest, but happy enough if the deal completes. I like him, he's an incremental improvement and so let's get him in and carry on taking the steps forward. Some will be bigger steps than others. Left back is a must. We can't carry on with Martina. Would like to see a bit more chaff sorted from the wheat as well - ship a few heads out and then continue through the summer window. I'm still on the fence about Sam, want to like him, but if he helps us recruit more sensibly than last summer, that'll do for now.
Brian Williams
28 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:36:20
Big IFS there Col but I'd agree with that 100%.

But don't be surprised if Theo ends up on the south coast ;-)

Colin Glassar
29 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:40:52
I hope the rumours about Tom Davies being sold to WHU are just that, rumours. I don’t mind seeing Tom going out on loan for a few months but I’d be seriously pissed off if he’s sold to buy someone like Dacoure from Watford or some other no-mark.
Brian Williams
30 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:43:01
If Davies was sold it might JUST be the tipping point for the torches and pitchforks to come out..........................and I'd be one of them!
Gavin Johnson
31 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:47:46
Puzzling signing on some levels, considering we'll be overrun with wide players. Walcott's a definite upgrade on Lennon who looks like he'll go this window. Walcott, will have to contend with Bolasie, Lookman and Henry next season. Vlasic can also operate as a wide player, and so can Kieran Dowell.

On the other hand we do need an instant fix. We're defending a lot deeper under Sam and need some speed to get us up the field on counter attacks. Walcott could also be played as a centre forward but I don't see that happening under a manager who tends to like bigger centre forwards leading the line.

I'm generally in favour of this signing. Walcott's a bit of a sick note but he has decent goal/assist stats whenever he plays, even though some of his decision making can be dubious. I hope this signing means Sigurdsson will be moved into the centre. My first 11 would be :-

Pickford

Kenny, Holgate, Keane, new left back,

Gana,

Rooney, Sigurdsson

Walcott, Tosun, Bolasie

Jim Bennings
32 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:48:48
Good point about getting Tom Davies out on loan for a few months, I wouldn’t sell him but I think he would have benefited from a loan this season.

Yes he progressed well last season but the second season was always going to be much tougher for him and so it’s proved as the team has suffered so has Davies , he prospered in a team playing with comfort this time last year but in a team struggling he’s suffered bad.

Les Martin
33 Posted 16/01/2018 at 08:55:34
He scores goals his record shows that but Neymar would not score in this side and the way it is set up !
We need a midfielder who is a pacy ball winner who can actually pass forward to the striker and make it happen, too many traction engines.
I will be happy if NZonzi is signed also and some dead midfield wood gone.
Peter Warren
34 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:07:45
Instant fix. No long term planning. I thought this was whole point of director of football. Our transfer strategy is very odd and strikes me as non existent.
Eddie Dunn
35 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:11:09
It's unimaginative but as good as it will get for us in our current situation. He is a step up from DCL(inexperienced), Bolasie (poor end product and still not fit) and Niasse(poor technique). Vlasic and Lookman have shown to be defensively lightweight, so Walcott should be an improvement. Realistically, what more could be expect in January?
Robert Leigh
36 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:16:15
If we sign Walcott and a new LB it'll have been a good window.

Though reading about Garbutt maybe salvaging his Everton career; I'd be surprised if we do sign a new LB.

I can't say I'd be too disappointed either, we are most likely safe for this season so why not see if Luke still is a player until the end of the season.

Some players have struggled on loan in the Championship but done well at Premier League level - it's a different style of football.

Dick Fearon
37 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:18:05
Walcott cannot find a place in what by any yardstick is the worst Arsenal side for over 20 years.
Brent Stephens
38 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:35:36
"Walcott cannot find a place in what by any yardstick is the worst Arsenal side for over 20 years".

So who do we realistically go for, Dick? Somebody who is a regular in the Arsenal side or a side above them? What are our chances of that? There are bench-warmers in those teams that wouldn't look twice at us, even if they were available.

Len Hawkins
39 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:43:47
Is this Noone, who is going to sign Walcott, Walsh's Assistant.

As for Zaha I think you'd be able to hear the laughter from here if Everton tried to sign him, surely he would probably like to improve himself although money does strange things to peoples ambition.

Steve Ferns
40 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:46:58
Can he play left back?
David Hallwood
41 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:50:07
Peter Warren(#34) we’ve got a strategy??!! When? How? Surely you’re not describing the chaos that’s laughingly called our recruitment policy a ‘strategy’.

Leaving aside the 3 number 10s, no left back or striker-oh and no pace of the summer debacle, the season starts and obviously Baines is off the pace and of course the realisation that if he gets injured there’s no backup. Me, you and just about everyone that has even the slightest interest in football come to the same conclusion.

Everyone that is except for Steve ‘I discovered Mahrez’ Walsh and his band of merry scouts. WTF have they been doing since August, if we could recruit the 3rd choice right back from Southampton as a backup can’t we have a left back ready to be paraded just as Hotenany is finishing.

Can’t get a left back as our Steve searches the globe then why not look at left side midfielders a la Moses/Delph. It’s enough to go up to our Steve and the chaps and break into “hello, is there anybody in there” except I maybe numb, but I certainly ain’t comfortable.

Colin Glassar
42 Posted 16/01/2018 at 09:55:00
So who leaves to finance the “in-comings”? Lennon, Besic, Niasse and Davies?
Garry Martin
43 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:00:16
Don't want to appear negative regarding this sale but I can't help but think that he's on Arsenal's clear out list. You really would not want to sell a good player, always seemed injured as an Arsenal player or was brought on as a sub. Another potential great that did'nt quite do it. We still seem to by theses end of career players who will also probably get a great contract. I estimate we'll probably get 10 games a season from him.
James Morgan
44 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:01:10
He’s not a world beater but I think the key to improving any team is to bring in better than what you have. He would be the best winger at the club and force Lennon down the pecking order. Lookman and Vlasic should be the impact subs for Walcott and Bolasie. If he gets 10-15 goals a season and 10 assists a season then it’s a worthwhile buy.
Now let’s stop messing about and get a bloody left back!
Brian Williams
45 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:05:35
Has anyone considered, with regard to the left back situation, that we may have had approaches knocked back and we're looking for certain players rather than just getting anyone in?
There IS a possibilty that we're not aware of everything that goes on behind the scenes.
Just a thought.
Steve Brown
46 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:09:41
This smacks of the month wasted on Sigurdsson while leaving us without a forward or left back. We need a left back and left midfielder far more than we need another wideman in the right . Unless we plan to switch to 4-3-3, which might lead us to double our number of shots of target from the heady levels of 4 shots in 5 games. But given our midfield we will be letting in 3-4 goals in 45 mins on an even more regular basis.
Mike Price
47 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:10:53
Walsh is not helping zero charisma, Cheshire Cat smile to disarm, in the hope no one realises there’s not much going on. Should have gone with Koeman because he’s overseen the worst batch of transfer dealings in league history.
He must be on his knees, worshipping at the alter of Mahrez and Vardy and from what I’ve heard it’s not clear just how much he had to do with those transfers too.
Steve Ferns
48 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:21:47
If Allardyce completes the month by having got rid of Barkley, Walsh and Davies, then I will be furious. This is exactly what I feared when we appointed him. Selling off our best academy prospects and bringing in old players for short term to achieve his own goals, with little or zero long term planning.

Sure, he can have a pass on Barkley, although I will always wonder if he could have done more. I will accept Walsh leaving if there is a watertight clause that can turn the transfer into more of a loan deal. But I cannot accept selling off Davies either. As for loaning him, no. He needs to stay here, to play, and to develop.

We have no need for journeyman pros like Nzonzi. Big yard-dogs who will achieve Allardyce's dream of turning us into Stoke. He needs to develop and use the young players, and forgo his selfish ambitions of short term goals, as we cannot make the top 4, are very unlikely to make the top 6, and so have little left to play for. Developing the team now, for next season, should be the priority. So that means no to older players.

Andrew Clare
49 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:23:24
We signed Bolasie for £28 million and he's no great shakes, now we are signing another so-so player- Walcott for £20 million.
Sorry, I'm not very optimistic.
Brian Williams
50 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:23:57
Steve its very unfair to intimate that Allardyce "got rid of" Barkley.
Barkley was going well before Allardyce even got here.


Even though you give him a pass you question whether he could have done more.

Come on Steve you're better than that.

Steve Ferns
51 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:25:24
Brian, I did say he can have a pass on Barkley .
Brian Williams
52 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:27:07
Ha Steve, cross editing there! I always think of something after I've posted.
Alzheimers I think!
Rob Young
53 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:32:31
Not Walcott's biggest fan but he'll no doubt improve us so I'd definitely be happy to get him.

As for Lookman and Vlasic, up to them to prove they are good enough to start ahead of Walcott.

Martin Reppion
54 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:32:54
What an interesting mixed bag of comments.
For what it's worth...
If Walcott is as bad as some seem to think, how did he score so many goals last season?
The left back/hard man in midfield issue is an irrelevance on a page discussing the merits of signing an attacking player. (We need both).
All that should be asked is not, is he the best player out there? But is he better than what we currently have?
Of course there are better players. I'd ideally like to sign Aguerro, Naymar and Pele. But that isn't going to happen.
But can anyone say we currently have a forward player who would keep Walcott out of the team?
As the answer is no, then the signing is a no-brainer.
Moving on, if we can find a better left back than Luke Garbutt then sign him. But if all that is available is another David Burrows (Ask your Dad) we should wait and use the resources we have and look again in the summer.
Steve Ferns
55 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:34:53
Brian for me, anyone should have moved heaven and earth to have kept Barkley. If the deal was already done, everything agreed, then fair enough.

I believe that the terms were only finalised after the window opened, which is why it wasn't a new years day transfer. Therefore, Allardyce should have told the board to make Barkley our best paid player, to give him whatever we can to keep him.

The supposed amazing contract Barkley was offered wouldn't have even had him in the top 4 wage earners. And that is not doing enough. Allardyce coul have been sweet talking Barkley from day one. I would have. I'd have been on at him, telling him how things were improving dramatically now (as they were) and that we just need more creativity, and that's where he fits in, and once he's back playing, then we will be putting a run together to get top 6. That he, Barkley, is a top 4 player, and so he can drag us there.

I would not have let Barkley leave, and I would have told Chelsea to stick their £15m where the sun doesn't shine. But that's me.

Anyway, he's gone. But if Allardyce thinks he can sell off another local lad on the cheap to finance signing some ex-stoke yard dog, then I will be paying for the plane myself.

James Marshall
56 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:37:48
He brings pace, movement, experience, and he can finish too.

There are very few wide players in the world with a consistent end product, and we're Everton, not a top club so Walcott is great business for us.

Using players stats alone only tells half the story - he creates space for others, makes good runs (so does Tosun I noticed at Wembley) and Walcott has more of a football brain than many of our current players.

It's a no-brainer for me - sign him.

Brian Williams
57 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:40:18
Steve, if Davies is sold I'll be marching on Finch Farm myself mate. Just cannot see it.
With regrad to Barkley, he was gone from the summer window.
I don't believe any offer would have kept him.
Steve Ferns
58 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:48:07
Martin I would agree that Walcott should get into our side. Interestingly Sam talks about playing across the front three. confirming a long term commitment to 451/433.

I wish to see more of a 433. The front three with the present players will be:
Tosun / Calvert-Lewin - central striker
Bolasie / Lookman - left inside forward
Lennon / Bolasie / Vlasic - right wing

By signing Walcott for big money, he has to play, and in playing he knocks Lookman and Vlasic down the pecking order, and reduces their chances of getting on the pitch, and for me that is negligent. It effectively stunts their development at a critical age where they need playing time.

I would also be looking to get Sandro involved both as a left inside forward and as a centre-forward. The arrival of Walcott will surely mean the departure of Sandro, as he won't stick around to be in the reserves waiting to get on the bench when Tosun or Calvert-Lewin is injured. It definitely means the end of Niasse.

So whilst Walcott is better than what we have right now, I think that margin is not enough to stunt the development of Lookman, Vlasic, and Sandro. And more importantly it is money that we could spend in a more important position like left back.

Barry Pearce
59 Posted 16/01/2018 at 10:48:51
Best all round, if Allardyce go’s in the summer.

Already no Davies benni, or Vlasic in the squad, against spurs. Allardyce is a footballing dinosaur.

Also Dowell wouldn’t have a cat in hells chance of getting into an Allardyce squad.

Rob Young
60 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:02:58
The contract Allardyce is on is another problem. If he thinks he has a chance of staying on after the summer that will only be because of results. Short-term. So he'll plan short term and would always go for experience over youth.
He wasn't hired to develop the squad over 18 months, he was hired to keep us in the league and get results.

Playing the youngster and getting beat will do nothing for Allardyce personally.


Si Pulford
61 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:04:10
In 16 appearances this season Walcott has scored four and has five assists.

Walks into our side and stays there. Instant first eleven upgrade.

Left back an absolute must. If we don’t get one Walsh must be held to account and sacked. We all knew what would happen if Baines got injured. We could see it as fans.

Christian Watson
62 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:07:03
Can see it being a great bit of business for Everton. His pace is something we've been missing and crying out for. Either out wide bir through the middle. He'll score goals for us starting with two against WBA on Saturday. Remember where you heard it first!!
Michael Coffey
63 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:07:11
A tad harsh on bugsy, Martin 54. Edged out by Gary Stevens, moved on and rebuilt his career at Coventry, only to break his leg on the eve of their cup final win. Unlucky. To my mind a decent full back in Kendall’s 1982/3 efforts to find the right chemistry
Brian Harrison
64 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:10:48
I guess the difference with Walcott as opposed to Lennon and Bolasie is he has a decent goals per game record. I just checked the stats of Bolasie and Lennons stats in the premier league, and both their goals per game ratio is poor. Bolasie 106 games 11 goals and Lennon 331 games and 33 goals. When you add that DCL has only scored 4 league goals in the premiership it highlights our problem. Although its far too early to judge DCL but both Bolasie and Lennon offer nothing in goals per game.

Then when you add to the mix the most defensive manager we have ever had its no surprise that our goal record is so poor. So while we are still looking for a left back then on his past record Walcott might help us score goals. Although in this set up I wouldn't bet too much money on that outcome.

Drew O'Neall
65 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:10:54
If you want to put us back in the same financial straights and mediocre performance level we've been used to for the past 30 years, carry on with this strategy of buying up everyone else's aging, injured rubbish, Everton.
Brian Williams
66 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:12:05
Very good point, Rob Young, and one I've made myself on here a few times. Playing the youngsters and getting beat is not only not good for Allardyce but it's not good for Everton. We still need points badly to stave off a relegation battle, a fact which some choose to ignore.

I hope, if as is being reported by reliable sources, the Walcott deal is just about done that we get him signed in time for him to play on Saturday. Team I'd like to see play against West Brom would be:

Pickford
Kenny, Holgate, Williams, a garden chair.
McCarthy, Sigurdsson, Gueye.
Walcott, Tosun, Lookman.

Steve Ferns
67 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:23:26
Sorry Brian but A. Garden Chair is not registered and available for selection.

Your team is one I would like to see, but Sigurdsson must not play as a no10, he needs to sit deep to get on the ball quickly. He needs to be the first pass, not the second, and he needs to be hitting his pass forwards within 5 seconds of the ball being won. This means McCarthy and Gueye being close to him and finding him fast.

Lookman and Walcott need to be covering into our own half, both for defensive solidity, and also so that they can suck the opposition forwards, and then on winning the ball, turn and use their pace to get in behind the fullbacks. Tosun of course needs to be showing for the ball, or looking to get in behind himself.

This is a marked difference from McCarthy and Gueye having to take the ball to the edge of the West Brom penalty area, and looking to find Sigurdsson who, by the time they get the ball to him, is now marked heavily, and unable to get on the ball.

Brian Williams
68 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:25:41
Agree with all that, mate.

In the case of the garden chair, I believe the Premier League will allow it due to "special circumstances." :-)

Steve Bird
69 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:26:08
Brian (#66),

This club couldn't run the proverbial piss up!!

I've just found out that they have failed to register The Garden Chair in the Premier League squad of 25!!

Back to the drawing board, mate, I believe Martina is fit if that helps!!

Derek Knox
70 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:29:20
Brian @66, I like your choice of LB over Martina, what an improvement, got two extra legs and a back built in.

The way this crazy window is going, £20M in comparison is small beer for Theo Walcott; but seriously the whole wage and fee structure is surely heading for meltdown.

Alexis Sanchez, great player by the way; but is no spring chicken either; £350,000 per week, there are families who could live off that for a lifetime; it is immoral above all else.

Ultimately, the costs get passed down to the fans; raised ticket prices; or revenue via Sky Customers; who never put their prices down; but make you believe they have, but you must take out a contract minimum etc.

Terence Tyler
71 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:39:06
On his way to Finch Farm for medical
James Marshall
72 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:39:45
Some reports of a medical pencilled in for this afternoon once the final details of the contract are ironed out.

Looks like this going to happen. Fingers crossed. We need pace and experience.

And a left back.

Colin Malone
73 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:42:02
Definitely need a speed merchant through the middle, where Walcott prefers to play.
Colin Glassar
74 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:42:02
Walcott expected at Finch Farm for medical. I wonder if they'll have him registered in time for the West Brom game?

Talking of West Broom, I'm still gutted over the death of Cyril Regis.

Steve Ferns
75 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:55:00
Cyril had been on TV a lot recently, as there had been renewed interest in the "three degrees" and a particular focus on Cunningham. Regis seemed very willing to play the talking head in the programmes I saw, talking up his teammate. A very humble man, because he was a great striker in his own right.

I don't know if it was the case, but he seemed frail to me. He was supposedly very fit for his age, but he didn't look like he had any of the bulk that he had had in his playing days. Maybe it was that he was fit, or perhaps it was a symptom of his battles with illness. His brother (or is it his cousin) John Regis (the Olympic runner) is still a man mountain.

He seemed a great guy. A hero to so many players, Dion Dublin and Brian Deane, and particularly his nephew Jason Roberts. Roberts was a good player and didn't quite get the career I thought he was going to have, he almost came here a couple of times.

I don't recall if we were ever linked with Regis, but I'm sure he would have been a good signing.

Brian Harrison
76 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:55:20
Brian 66

Allardyce has said he has considered playing the garden chair but thinks he is a bit wooden and is in his opinion is less mobile than Martina.

Steve Bingham
77 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:59:11
I find it odd when I read on here about the potential non re sale value of a player we are linked to . As supporters do you genuinely feel this is actually a negative reason to not sign any player who most definitely will improve our team now?. Walcott in is a good move and at least we would have a player who actually remembers that the aim is to score goals .
Colin Glassar
78 Posted 16/01/2018 at 11:59:35
He was one of my favourite players in the 70’s Steve. I still remember applauding a goal he scored against us while standing on Gladwys st. I got loads of dirty looks from the monkey chanting racists who were standing next to me but I didn’t care.
Sam Hoare
79 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:00:27
No. Another ageing player with his best years behind him who does not play in the positions in which we most lack.

He may well be an incremental improvement for a year or two (though Lennon works far harder) but is that worth £20m?

I fear that we continue to waste money with very little clear plan of how to develop a balanced team for the future.

Steve Ferns
80 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:05:59
Colin, on the subject of monkey chanting racists, there's no getting away from just how bad we were, and were right up to and past John Barnes back heeling a banana off the pitch. Just how much of the erosion of racism came down to having a black hero of our own.

I was a bit young too really have a handle of the changing attitudes on the terraces, but I recall Amokachi being a turning point, where there was still racist language used about him, but it was amongst genuine affection, and then by time Super Kev had swooped in to rescue us, it seemed to be all but gone.

What's your take on it all?

Steve Ferns
81 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:10:04
Steve, I think Sam answers your question.

The transfer fee, if particularly large, can usually be justified on the basis that you can subtract a fee for what you expect to get if you sell him in a couple of years, and then the difference plus the wages is the cost.

£20m fee, and wages of £150k on a 3-year deal, give a cost of the transfer at £45m. So the question is, is Walcott worth that kind of expenditure. The answer for me is no. But the question, does he improve the squad right now, then the answer is yes. But the improvement is not worth £45m.

Chris Thornton
82 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:11:59
Michael Coffey (63): I think you’re confusing Brian Borrows with David Burrows.
Arild Andersen
83 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:14:53
Strange read a couple of days ago: from the team that beat City 4-0 only one player, Holgate, started against Spurs. I think we lined up with three at the back in what has to be the best match under Koeman.

I really thought that was the start of something, but how wrong I was. Anyway, that massive change of players was bound to be difficult, but I never thought it would be this painful.

It's essential to get Gylfi involved central, as was obvious in the 2nd half of the derby, and to have more bodies pressing higher up. I'd like to see:

Pickford - Kenny, Holgate, Jagielka or Williams, left footed defender or Garbutt - Gana or Baningame - Walcott, Sigurdsson, Davies or McCarthy or Klaassen, Lookman or Vlasic - Tosun. Or even two strikers against West Brom. Sandro or Rooney in for a midfielder.

Chris Clark
84 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:19:49
I heard he decided against the garden chair as it is too light weight. Apparently he has his eyes on a deck chair instead and Unsworth is being summoned to test its strength.
Ian Edwards
85 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:28:08
It seems to be the case that if people say something loudly enough that people believe it's true. Apparently, everything wrong about Everton seems to be the fault of Martina. He was compared to a garden chair above. Fellow Evertonians including a number of posters have got their undergarments in a twist over Martina at Left Back.

Get real. Martina is not the problem. If you look to the other side of the Defence you will find the problem. Ladies and gentleman I give you Jonjoe Kenny.

Kenny at fault for goals against Leicester, Southampton, Man Utd, Spurs and Bournemouth but for some reason some scapegoating blues decide to pick on Martina.

I hope Martina has an alibi for the Kennedy assassination.

Steve Ferns
86 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:28:41
Arild, we played the following side:

Robles
Holgate Williams Funes Mori
Coleman Davies Barry Baines
Barkley Lukaku Mirallas

Then Holgate was dropped in favour of Schneiderlin, and a switch to 4-2-3-1. Then Gueye came in for Barry. Then Jagielka came in for the injured Funes Mori.

Ian Hollingworth
87 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:33:24
Walcott is not bad for the market we shop in and probably an upgrade on existing players.

As already stated on this thread we cannot afford nor can we attract the top players.

However we should be targeting the players we really need like a left back and a midfield general.

If we get them as well then great but if we only get Walcott then we will have failed again.

Guy Hastings
88 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:35:57
Ian 85 - He's the one leaving the grassy knoll wide open...
Matt Hunter
89 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:37:15
Why can't we just loan him? Why are we now buying old players with no sell-on value?
Darren Alexander
90 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:49:45
Well, we currently have plenty of guys stealing a living, so what's one more? Budge over on the treatment table, Jimmy Mac – you've got a new roomie!

As January reaches its halfway point we still seem to have no interest in addressing the key areas - is Walcott really any better than what we have, or what we just loaned to Olympiakos? Certainly not £20M (+ silly wages) better.

And if we can't work out what to do with Gylfi (hint for the management: watch his goal against the RS), what role will Walcott take? Stood out on the other touchline, I guess, where twice a game he can whip it in so Tosun can beat three defenders in the air for the knockdown which Gylfi can then slam in... oh, hang on, he's in the next postcode, hugging the other touchline. But wait – the cavalry might arrive in the form of Rooney – alas, he's still in the centre circle, trying to hail a taxi. Guess the opposition will just have to leisurely mop up the "attack", then, as, Tosun aside, there are no blue shirts within 20 yards of the opposition penalty area.

That trip to Wembley on Saturday is still stinging, and this news isn't much help. But, despite the above rant, I hope you prove me wrong, Theo, and become a useful member of the squad...

John Keating
91 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:51:49
Quite amusing reading the posts about who should or should not play and in which positions. Different opinions to be sure but most have been tried and all more or less failed.< Now it appears we want to play all the youngsters which for sure will work.

Regarding blaming Allardyce with Barkley leaving – absolutely ridiculous. Now he's getting slagged with young Tom's departure – which so far hasn't actually happened, I believe. You couldn't make half this stuff up!

Tom Bowers
92 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:53:40
Walcott, on form could help the attack but has had no form worthy of selection by Wenger for a long time and also had a long injury lay-off before that.

We have to hope a new club will re-ignite him.

Have to agree though the defensive side of thing is a mess and since Coleman went and more recently Baines, things have been getting worse.
Jonjo was half decent in his first few games but has gone the way of the rest.

It's an overall malaise and they need a couple more solid performers on the defensive side.

Derek Turner
93 Posted 16/01/2018 at 12:58:17
Tony @ 9

8 stages of an Everton transfer.

1 Deal close.
2 Deal 99% done.
3 Tottenham bid because Levy is sick of playing solitaire.
4 Greedy agent standoff.
5 Seen at Finch Farm..
6 Press conference called, delayed mysteriously.
7 Kenwright the tells us how he and Walsh tried everything to persuade him.
8 We sign G. Chair who was surplus to Man U U23 dressing room as he's a bit broken. Same agent gets paid.

Mat McConville
94 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:13:38
I've been saying since the start of the season that we need pace if you are going to play three behind a lone striker. They need to press fast off the ball and split quicker to give us width when in possession. Rooney and Sigurdsson are both architects on the ball, but are ponderous in terms of pace. Walcott gives us that speed and threat.

I think he's a snip at the current market value and undervalued as he has fallen out of favour at Arsenal. If he signs (and let's not count our chickens yet), he will be a big player for us. Proven to show up on the big stage, just needs the consistency that volume of games will give him.

Charlie Lloyd
95 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:23:06
BBC reporting that he is due for a medical in the next 24 hours.

Wonder if they can get this signing done before the WBA game or will it be the Leicester game on the 31st.

James Marshall
96 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:23:08
I just got the following WhatsApp message from my mate who's a long-term season ticket holder at Arsenal:

"Fucking feel sorry for you. The cunt was born offside with the ball caught up in his feet, but I do think he needs to leave Arsenal and should do a good job for you".

Hahaha!

Steve Ferns
97 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:27:23
I don't think we should play three behind the striker, as in a 4-2-3-1. We seem to have gravitated a bit more to that in recent weeks, when it was almost a flat 4-5-1 at first under Allardyce.

I think we are best when you take the middle of the 3, the number 10, and push him deep into the 2. When this man is Rooney, it means he is covered by the other two who can make up for his indiscipline. Regardless of whether it is Rooney or Sigurdsson, by being this deep, it means their lack of pace is not a problem as they are onto the ball quicker and so we can get the ball moving quicker, and more importantly travelling forwards or wide quicker, and so onto the attack.

But yes we need pace wide, as well as up top. Walcott adds that. But Calvert-Lewin, Lennon, Bolasie, and Lookman all have a decent turn of pace. Vlasic is quicker over 10 yards. It's about getting Sigurdsson off the wing and into midfield.

But there is absolutely no way he and Rooney can play together in a midfield three. They are too slow, not good enough defensively, and in the case of Rooney too positionally undisciplined. Also, the likes of Gueye, if forced to protect them, lose most of their game if handcuffed behind them. He needs to be free to run and tackle and intercept the ball. Which he can only do if he works in tandem with a like-minded player (Davies / McCarthy) or someone who will just sit and not get about the pitch (Schneiderlin).

Lenny Kingman
98 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:27:27
After the outright trash that has been bought and even home reared I find it somewhat refreshing to welcome a player that has credentials as a serious player. He now has a chance to do something worthwhile at a club that is trying to be progressive, in a clumsy, long winded, round the old terraced streets kind of way.

Of course the same applies to Saints or any other club who may gazump us at the eleventh hour.

John G Davies
99 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:27:44
The "defensive manager" signs a centre forward and a winger/forward and is ripped to bits for not signing a defender. 😁
Dave Evans
100 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:29:51
#91 John k.
I am not sure it is allowed to talk sense on here.
James Marshall
101 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:30:36
Being realistic, and I've said this a lot, Walcott is the highest level player we can expect at mid table Everton.

In fact I'd go so far as to say he's probably the highest profile player we've signed in years. Rooney aside.

Chris Clark
102 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:39:13
You forgot Samuel Eto'o; he was the highest profile player.
James Marshall
103 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:41:48
You're right, I forgot about Samuel Eto'o... On every level.
Dave Abrahams
104 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:41:56
Ian (85),

"I give you Jonjoe Kenny". Ian, I'll take him and if you've got a couple more like him, I'll take them as well.

Martina? Well, God loves a trier, and he tries to be like a footballer... but sadly he fails badly.

John Keating
105 Posted 16/01/2018 at 13:54:34
Reading some of the posts it appears he's an injury-prone has been and soon to be he's in the shit column

Now Gibson was an injury-prone has-been but, then again, so were Reid and Gray.

Hope he turns out to be half as influential as them. Welcome, Theo.

Mike Allen
106 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:00:10
Not what we need. We have enough on the books if given a chance to play off Tosun. We are crying out for a solid left back and left midfield. Sigurdsson is as much out of position as Martina who is at best third-choice right-back. Waiting for Baines is not the answer. Walcott is certainly not the answer, short or long term.
Iain Johnston
107 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:00:46
Pushing 400 appearances doesn't strike me as a player who's injury-prone.
Dave Evans
108 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:04:52
The squad are a desert horizon behind the top 6 in terms of quality. Unless a club has half a billion a year to throw at the problem, the way to improve the squad is in incremental steps. That means making sure the incoming are better than what you have got.

Walcott and Tosun are better than any strikers we have. We will be improved.

John Daley
109 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:07:32
Iain (@107),

He has missed 116 games due to injury during his Arsenal career.

Alex Mullan
110 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:08:44
Not sure why some people are so down about this one, we need pace and he has it in abundance. We need goals and he scored 19 goals last season deployed across a range of positions as a non-regular.

Maybe we should just sign Messi instead but he would likely be regarded as too short.

Steve Ferns
111 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:19:17
That's only one way to do it Dave. To buy slightly better players and improve the side bit by bit.

Getting the right players and the right chemistry is difficult, as we saw in the summer. Although, we assembled a team with one missing part and deeply unbalanced.

The other way is to grow a team by developing from within the academy and purchasing in the positions where the players lack the quality.

The first method is very expensive and is not guaranteed to work, the second is a lot cheaper but needs patience and time. You can also direct funds to purchase players of top quality, and ensure you keep your players by diverting transfer funds into wages (something Tottenham should have done but did not do).

Colin Glassar
112 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:23:55
I like Walcot. He hasn’t lived up to his early promise but he’s miles better than Niasse, Mirallas and Lennon combined. He’s also scored more goals than all three of them together.

As for the sell on value, I’m sick of hearing that tired old argument. The same people who moan that we are a sell to buy club (which we are) are the same ones who moan that we won’t make a profit when we buy experienced players.

Like any player who signs for Everton I welcome Theo and wish him all the best. Only time will tell. Left back next please. I have a spare deckchair just in case.

John Keating
113 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:25:07
Alex even Messi would be in the He’s shit column within a week

I can’t remember if it was Shankley or Paisley who’s pregame team talk in the dressing room was to ask who they were playing

Regardless he’d just say aye well just watch them and that’d be it

Now we have the tacticians spouting all the shit of the day Fact is if a player can’t make a ten foot pass or run then we’re deep in the shit

Andy Codling
114 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:25:40
Where is the Left back? Where is the Centre Half?
Will Steve Walsh please pull his head out of his own arse?
Andrew Ellams
115 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:28:00
I'd be interested to hear of any better options that are likely to come to Everton. We were desperate for an outlet ball on Saturday to have somebody get up the field and provide service for Tosun and this could well be the man. We could have pace on both wings now, but Sam would probably need to drop Rooney to make it work.
Steve Ferns
116 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:28:27
Colin, I think the moans are because of what happened in the summer when we became so bothered about Sigurdsson and Giroud that we never bothered getting any alternatives lined up, and we ended up vastly overpaying for Sigurdsson and Giroud fell through and we never signed anyone. We are simply frustrated that we need a left back and the club are seeming to do nothing about it, but yet spend £20m on a player we don't actually need. If not for the summer I think we'd be saying as you did, get him in, he'll make us a bit better, and now we'd like a left back.
Colin Glassar
117 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:34:49
I’m not doubting the summer catastrophe Steve. I still think Moshiri should’ve sacked Kenwright, Elstone and Walsh after that fiasco. I also agree that we desperately need a LB now, today not tomorrow or next week. I just think that Walcot, like Donovan did, might just rejuvenate our attack.
Sean Patton
118 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:38:24
Andrew @115

Gaitan of Athletico Madrid


Seeing as he is being linked to Swansea I'd say he would come here and he would be cheaper.

John Boon
119 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:39:53
He has lots to offer if given a regular chance. He must have personal stamina because he has never been heard complaining about not being given enough time at Arsenal.

I think he is better than the OX who the RS signed for twice the price. Agreed we have made some lousy signings of late. However they had all been playing regularly as so called super stars in low level teams. He has not been playing much and hopefully will want to prove that he is very capable of giving us much needed speed and skill.

Steve Ferns
120 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:42:15
I hope you're right Colin. I agree he will improve us. I don't doubt that. Just need that left back!
Paul Kossoff
121 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:42:57
Poor Jack Rodwell.
Sunderland midfielder Jack Rodwell is "the worst mistake the club has made", says ex-striker Marco Gabbiadini.

Rodwell, 26, asked to leave the club and Sunderland have offered to cancel his £60,000-a-week contract, the Press Association reported on Monday.

His deal, which has 18 months left, does not include Sunderland's usual 40% wage reduction clause in the event of relegation.

"There was no safety valve in that contract whatsoever," said Gabbiadini.

"They took a punt on a player but the contract he had, there was no real contingency in it, was there?

Gabbiadini said Rodwell's contract is "a massive liability that they've got to somehow get him out of".

Sunderland signed Rodwell from Manchester City in August 2014 for £10m.

The former Everton midfielder, capped three times by England, has made only 53 starts for the Black Cats, with only three league appearances coming this season.
Grass is not always greener!

Sam Hoare
122 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:47:55
People moan about transfer fees because Everton do not have an endless pot of money!

If we spend £20m on one player (that has no resale value) then that is £20m that is not there to spend on another player. An opportunity lost.

For example if we hadnt spent £25m on Davy Klaassen then we might have spent £8m on Andy Robertson and £17m on Harry Maguire and actually have a defence!!

James Marshall
123 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:49:52
He's not injury prone - someone posted his full injury record on here a few days ago and it's simply not true. Fake news. I wish people would actually fact check before posting stuff on here based on perception.

You're all moaning about him, but if we sign him you'll all sing his praises when he does good things, then slag him off when he makes mistakes, then demand he's sold like every other player that goes through the doors due to the fickle nature of football support.

We change our minds & opinions like we change our bloody pants.

Andrew Ellams
124 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:50:47
Sean Patton. Gaitan has been leaked to several clubs in the press this week including Inter Milan. Is he better than Walcott? I think if managers thought he could deal with English football he'd have been in the Premiership before he hit 29, he's linked to somebody every window.
John Barnes
125 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:52:16
Paul, re Rodwell doesn’t it look like the club got the better of his transfer? 12mill wasn’t it for a crock?
Brian Williams
126 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:53:27
James#123
I change my pants once a month, whether they need it or not!!
Dean Barton
127 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:54:57
I can't understand why people say we don't need him. We need pace..check. we need goals...check. what is so hard to understand about that. We needed 2 forwards and it looks like we have them now. Walcott scares opp defenses because he's quick and has a goal in him. Also he will thrive in a counter attacking side. Do you think teams will press us highly with Bolasie and Walcott out wide? We struggle to play through the midfield because teams press us highly knowing we don't have the pace to hurt them. Now they will have to sit 10-20 yards deeper which will help our defence by relieving the pressure and will give the midfield more time on the ball.

IMO it's extremely short sighted not to see how his signing will help us. Both defensively and in attack. He scores more goals and has played at a much higher level than the players he is replacing and £20m for a player in his prime and with his experience in the PL in today's market is a snip. Remember, how much did Keane and Klassen cost?

Great signing . exactly what we need

Stan Schofield
128 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:56:29
I can't think of a downside to getting Walcott. He not only has tremendous pace, but unusual skill in controlling the ball at that pace. He can cut defences in half.

He seems a bit injury prone, but there don't seem to be many players who aren't these days. Let's hope that, if he signs, we don't make him look shite, which is easily done with our current disarray.

Shane Corcoran
129 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:57:28
James, if a poster doesn't rate Walcott then they're free to say so.

If he then joins and does well, what else would this poster do but cheer him for doing so and give out when he does something wrong?

Would you have us cheer his poor play and recommend we keep him because he seems like a nice chap?

None of this applies to me however as my perceptions of our potential signings always turn out to be 100% accurate.

Paul Kossoff
130 Posted 16/01/2018 at 14:59:53
Yes John, we did get the best out of the Rodwell deal, but would he have been one of our best players if he had stayed?
Brian Williams
131 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:02:40
Just heard from a reliable source that Walcott has had his medical and signed.

Unfortunately there was a bit of loose carpet in the office where he signed, which he tripped on on the way out to the photoshoot.

He's expected to be out for two to three months.

Sam Hoare
132 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:03:24
Dean@127 "IMO ts extremely short sighted not to see how this signing will help us"

I think the opposite may be true. Walcott will very likely improve us in the short term but people objections are more to do with his use after a season or two when his pace/novelty/hunger starts to fade? I see a player whose very quick but lacking technical prowess and a sharp technical brain.

I hope i'm wrong but I predict a decent year or so of Theo before his limitations become more obvious and we are stuck with a gradually slowing 30 year old on high wages.

Dean Barton
133 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:04:21
Paul 130.

I was one of the fans not bothered when he left, felt he lacked heart and his career has gone where I thought it would

Andrew Ellams
134 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:05:46
Sam, I guess the hope there is that year or two of Walcott (and Bolasie) is enough for the likes of Lookman and Vlasic to come through and take their places. Ditto Tom Davies and the rest.
John Keating
135 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:06:51
Shane thing is on here we slag off people before they get to the Club and continue regardless

Apparently its called having an opinion

James Marshall
136 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:09:11
Shane - I wasn't criticising, I was merely pointing out the fact that this is always the same circular conversation about every player.

The whole concept of 'giving it out' when a player does something wrong is something I don't subscribe to - the term 'supporter' or 'fan' does not lend itself to abusing our own players when they, as human beings, make mistakes.

They don't play badly on purpose!


Dean Barton
137 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:09:25
Sam 132.

You may be right, but we need him now. If we get 2 or 3 years out of him at his best then it would be worth it.

Look when Utd bought Van Persie, they didn't care whether he would be good in 2 or 3 years. They needed him at that moment and with him they won the league. I'm not saying we will win the league because of him but I hope you get what I mean

Sam Hoare
138 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:09:36
Andrew, I guess so. Though £20m+ 100k wages(?) is alot to pay for that and hope that the youngsters are the real deal. Apparently Lucan Moura mighte available for around the £20m mark!
Andrew Ellams
139 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:12:13
Sam, Moura isn't coming to Everton. I'm not convinced he's coming to England at all if Utd sign Sanchez.
Bill Gall
140 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:13:28
Is he our new left back,
Shane Corcoran
141 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:23:50
James, I'm 100% with you on the abusing players, and that applies to opposition players too by the way.

However, coming on ToffeeWeb and stating an opinion along the lines of "that player's performances have been terrible and I therefore feel he should be moved on and replaced" is surely fair enough?

John, again, if people think a player is a bad signing before the arrive then I don't see why they shouldn't say so, once it doesn't get nasty. I'm most posters would be happy to admit they're pleasantly surprised if the player turned out to be a good buy.

Matthew Williams
142 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:24:12
I'd rather have a driving Midfield player like Ben Pearson of Preston,a player who can supply our forwards with killer passes & who never stops moving to win balls & create something !.
Steve Ferns
143 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:28:40
ToffeeWeb's opinion of Jack Rodwell (2009)

If any of you want a chuckle, and some of you might want to cringe! We really did think he would be a great player.

But think back to that goal against Man Utd. Young Jack had talent, forget the perceived potential, but the actual talent he did have, he was immense.

The issues for me are threefold. Firstly, injuries, how much have they taken their toll, secondly, hunger, having earned a fortune already, how hungr is he, and thirdly, confidence if he's now injury free, and can rediscover the hunger to do the hard work, can he regain his confidence and recapture the early talent he did have, and maybe just maybe unlock some of that potential.

I can foresee Moyes taking a punt on him if the wages are right. It wouldn't shock me if at least reached Dan Gosling levels.

Andrew Ellams
144 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:29:43
Matthew, what about Renato Sanches, currently on loan at Swansea? He hasn't set the Premiership on fire but he is young and there is definitely a player in there. And to play alongside him, William Carvalho. Again, not the mega stars of European football but would improve our squad.
Brian Williams
145 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:34:43
Terence Tyler
146 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:39:13
Reports emerging he has signed.
James Marshall
147 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:40:29
It is fair enough Shane - it's just the way it's often presented that bothers me.

My point wasn't about telling anyone they can't have an opinion - god knows that's what this site is all about, and the only reason it exists!

Steve Ferns
148 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:41:05
William Carvalho looks a quality player. Lovely touches, great range of passing. A play maker in the Portugese mould. But he's quite old for someone yet to leave Portugal (brief spell in Belgium discounted). All the big clubs have sniffed him and moved on. Even clubs like ourselves have passed, but he is continued to be linked to us and West Ham. I'd like to see what he could do in the Premier League.

If I was to guess why they don't take him, then it would be that with less time on the ball, he can forced to give the ball away a little too much (evidence being Euro 16), that he is lacking defensively for someone who sits deep and passes.

He does remind me of Joa Moutinho who I have loved ever since watching him and di Maria destroy us for Sporting in the EL.

But, as above, do we really need him? He'd come in, in place of Rooney / Sigurdsson and keep Sigurdsson marooned on the left wing, as a £45m player cannot be sub.

Shane Corcoran
149 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:41:38
Steve #143, I think it's mainly mental attributes he's lacking.

He rarely used his physique and athleticism like he did in that goal against United.

Whether it's desire, confidence or a bit of both I don't know but I reckon Moyes smelled it.

John Keating
150 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:41:59
Shane, you are right about expressing negative opinions on players and managers before they arrive and changing them later. Unfortunately, some cannot change and continue to criticize continually.

As far as I can remember we've always had to have someone to moan about even before social media. I remember in the 60s for some reason Derek Temple got pelters every game regardless. I mentioned this to him a few years ago and he just shrugged and said it was he pulled out of a 50-50 once and it was never forgotten.

David McMullen
151 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:42:01
The buzz word over the last year or two is productivity.
This is needed.
Mike Gaynes
152 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:42:57
Star reporting deal is signed, but no other outlet is reporting it and no word on the club website.
Shane Corcoran
153 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:44:14
James and John, I think we're on the same page.

I'm not sure I care enough to complain myself.

Hopefully Walcott signs and is a complete success .and then Wenger exercises a buy-back clause.

David Barks
154 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:45:07
Right type of player. But wrong type of manager.
Andrew Ellams
155 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:52:20
Steve, Carvalho is only just 25 and has 40 caps for Portugal. He must have something.
Steve Ferns
156 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:53:24
I thought we flogged Rodwell because of his injury record. Hamstring injury after hamstring injury. I remember saying at the time to take the money and let someone else pay his medical bills. It was sad to see him go, but he was too be a risk, and the money was too appealing.

As for the mental side, I would say it's down to hunger. The big problem I see for all English players is the wages. Just look a Foden of Man City, he was a u17 World Cup winner, had a massive contract, fame, and he was still only 16. You could see that going wrong. Brewster of Liverpool is similar.

Too many seem to think they've made it once they play for the team just once, get the first big contract, and then seem to just stop. It's not just the English though, there's examples from South America and the rest of Europe.

I think more work needs to be done with these kids, to prevent them going the way of Billy Kenny. We need them to maintain that hunger, and strive to get to the top, no time to smell the roses just because they made the first team, drive a sports car and have a gorgeous girl on their arm.

Steve Ferns
157 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:56:04
He does Andrew. But not many players are still in Portugal at age 25, they have usually left by 21, 23 at max. Just look at Sanches who you mention who joined Bayern at 18.
Colin Glassar
158 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:56:47
Signed, sealed and delivered. Welcome aboard Theo.
Soren Moyer
159 Posted 16/01/2018 at 15:57:57
£20m is NOT a big money transfer fee anymore!
Shane Corcoran
160 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:01:31
True enough Soren. But if you sign three for four players for £ 20m each and you end up with a worse team than the previous season I think we can call it a waste of money.
Phil Smith
161 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:02:55
Notice Garbutt didn't play for the U23s the other day. Must be in the squad for this weekend then, if they have registered him. Last chance for him to make it at Everton.
Shane Corcoran
162 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:06:49
Colin, are you just being mischievous?
Matthew Williams
163 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:10:23
Good shout Andrew,both would improve us as it stands,but I do like the homegrown player tbh,to me a Midfield four of Lookman,Mooy (Aussie,yeah I know),Pearson & Reach gives us pace,balance,skill,bottle,heart, creativity & wouldn't cost the earth,but most important of all... wouldn't bore Goodison shitless !.

Mosh is a very lucky man...but NEVER cross your bosses...the Royal Blue faithful !!!.

Brian Williams
164 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:11:56
Just the t's to cross and the i's to dot. He'll score Saturday!
Liam Reilly
165 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:17:01
Don't see the confirmation myself; but I see 'Merse' thinks he should go to Bournemouth because they play better football than Everton.

No disrespect to them but have we really sunk that low, now our peers are Bournemouth?

Mark Burton
166 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:28:29
Ronaldo is for sale. 89m . All the money wasted on this shite team we could have got two of him
Andrew Ellams
167 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:34:49
SSN claiming the desire to work with Allardyce swung the deal our way. Will the medical check his head?
Steve Ferns
168 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:44:07
Did they also say he's saying thanks to Bill Kenwright for making his dream come true?
Roger Helm
169 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:45:01
He is a good player, with pace and he can score goals. What is his character like? What we need, in any position, is players with winning mentality. For too long we have had players who seem mentally fragile and psychologically weak. I read recently how Jamie Carragher couldn't believe how friendly Everton players were before derby games - he would just blank the opposition. In other words, we need a few yard dogs. By which I don't mean thugs; Alan Ball was an all-time great player, and the worst loser in the world, by all accounts.
Dan Nulty
170 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:50:08
Don't see anything negative to this move. Better as it stands than we have already, faster than we have and we all now how easy we are to defend against at the moment. Hope his final ball is better than I have seen but bring it on. Squad looking improved already.
Ian Burns
171 Posted 16/01/2018 at 16:59:22
I have just read this on the BBC website from an Arsenal supporter:

Gweedo: Forget Sanchez the big story is Theo. 12 years we waited for him to be good. Thank you, thank you Everton. We’ll miss his wayward shots, his runs down blind alleys and his yearly injuries.

SA carrying on the RK curse for poor signings in my opinion. It will be whether or not we can hoof the ball so far up the pitch to send Walcott scampering after it.

John Pierce
172 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:00:19
One of my greatest fears was Allardyce marginalizing younger players with potential for short term gain, often something he has tended to do with other clubs.

Walcott’s arrival and recent players fitness returning looks like time for those younger players will be limited.

Based on his selections to date Davies is falling away, Vlasic was given a bizarre start versus United, only Kenny out of necessity and Holgate any have had any regular time.

Once Coleman is fit you feel Allardyce will take JJK out of the side to give him a rest and then not get a look in.

If anything it’s the measure of Kenny that proves why a consistent run in the side can be a definitive in deciding if the player is truly good enough. Kenny still has work to do but the portents are good, he will be to my eye.

This is not what I believe Everton are about, more so in light of a season gone tits up and despite the clamour for relegation we won’t go down. With only three of the top 6 left to play, and the rest of the league as poor or poorer than us the mathematical chances are but a mere glint.

If the DoF thing is done correctly then the manager, whoever that be is told that selections must reflect the nature of the squad for the remainder of the season. It might be longest pre season on record but already Everton have zero excuses to be as pathetic and disorganized as they were this year.

With weeks between games, often more because erm we are out of the cup, playing the younger players is a no brained, and if the likes of Lookman, Vlasic & Davies are not up to it then moves them on. The club will have been thorough and the players no comeback.

The dismal state we are in still I say offers an opportunity to get things right for next year. Walcaott and all he offers looks like Sam saying this is my player I want to sign him, fuck the rest of you, I’m in charge. I’ll do what’s best for me cos I have short contract and I’m not having my reputation sullied.

But that’s the choice the board made right?

Meanwhile reports suggest Roberto Carlos is being tapped up for a sensational return to the game, fuck me stick Joel in goals and play Jordan there.

Soren Moyer
173 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:02:40
Shane #160. Totally agree that we have wasted £200 mil and maybe more on players that are championship quality at best. What I meant was that £20 mil on Walcott is not a big fee. And what happened to Aubemiyang and Nzonzi we were going to sign? Where is a new left back, a proper center half?
Steve Hogan
174 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:03:40
Steve (148)
For the record, I was in Lisbon late November and took in a 'Sporting' game on the Friday night.

Looked long and hard at Carvalho, quite honestly, he was very ordinary for pretty much the whole of the game.

He was large and cumbersome, not very mobile, against a team who I think were bottom of the league.

He just didn't catch the eye.

Maybe, I just caught him on a bad night.?

Stan Schofield
175 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:04:50
Ian@171: It's a shame we didn't consult Gweedo.
Ian Burns
176 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:06:59
Stan - 175 - Haha - very good - might do a better job than Walsh me thinks!
Jackie Barry
177 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:09:14
His stats don’t show a bad player, 19 goals last season and over 100 goals for Arsenal. Sometimes players can be unappreciated too.
Colin Glassar
178 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:11:04
Bill just spotted outside Finch Farm. When asked by Prenno how the Walcot talks are going, Bill said “immaculately”. In Bill I Trust 🤪
Aarron Stobie
179 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:12:02
Walcott in Everton medical?

We need a Centre-back like Jonny Evans.
Andrew Keatley
180 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:12:35
I'm intrigued to see what a lean, mean and healthy Theo Walcott can do. Problem is, Arsenal never really got to see much of it in the last 12 years, such were his struggles with fitness, form and selection.

I personally think that his injuries don't seem to have robbed him of much of his pace - and some of the criticisms of his ability and positional nous are a tad overstated. I don't know whether the fact that he has proved to be very good in certain respects (counter attack/running at defenders) and not so good in others (basic ball retention/decision making) make him something of a luxury player for us, but if we are going for one luxury right now then out and out pace would be a good one to have - and I think Walcott still has it.

Shane Corcoran
181 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:15:49
I think one thing in Walcott's favour should he sign is that he's unlikely to be faced with a mass defence as it's the blues that will be doing most of the defending and so he may be able to use his pace on the counter.
Raymond Fox
182 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:18:13
I'm 50/50 on signing Walcott, is he better than what we have already got? He also puts up our wage bill by probably another £100k a week, maybe the club know they can offload a number of our players this month and so saving x number of pounds.

Sam is at least is looking to give the attack more bite, if we sign him that makes two forwards bought! It still comes back to is he an improvement on Lennon and Bolasie? I don't really don't see much myself!

David Hallwood
183 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:19:07
One of my mates described Rodwell as more Birkdale than Kirkdale, which pretty much sums him up-yet another off the Everton acadamy that sparkled and died like a firework.

I know we desperately need a left back but I think G Chair would just be a bench warmer. Ok I’ll get me coat.

Tony Everan
184 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:19:23
He will improve us , and he will want to prove that the Arses have made a mistake.

Reading the above posts the “The Cunt was born offside” comment is a classic.

Still laughing at that one.

A big welcome to Theo , give us 100% , some goals some assists , you will be loved here.

Guy Hastings
185 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:24:54
Liam 165 - 'Merse' is the moron's moron. Though he does have a point...
Sam Hoare
186 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:34:03
The vast majority of Arsenal fans seem happy to see him go; not in a slightly sour way that we might give crap to Lukaku or Barkley but in a genuine 'ah, we're finally rid of him' way. That concerns me. He was there for a decade, they know his game well.

I remember when we bought Lennon there was a good wedge of Spurs fans sorry to see him leave. Less so with gooners and Theo

Oliver Brunel
187 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:36:15
With which player were you more excited when signing?

a. Kanchelskis.

b, Walcott

The answer sums up the state of Everton in my humble opinion.

Tony Everan
188 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:38:29
Just hope the medical specialists look very closely at him. Get the electron microscopes out.

Don’t want him to sign , play 30 mins , and come off injured.

He needs to be 100% .

Chris Corn
189 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:46:07
But then again Oliver at 187, when we signed Kanchelskis we had just won the cup and the gap between us and the top teams had yet to widen to the gulf it has now both financial and ability wise.

Any player that would truly excite me now is not coming to Everton until we are able to offer them a shot at CL football or at least knocking on the door and that is with us now being a six figure per week salary payer.

As Jim Bennings said, if this was some foreign player, we'd have people on here telling us how they've followed him for ages and exclaiming Get it Done !

Put an England international wide man with pace and a 1 in 4 goal record in front of us and we are taking the word of Gweedo the Gooner that hes a gobshite.

David Israel
190 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:50:56
'Instant fix, instant fix', I keep hearing. For the record, Andy Gray was the same age when he signed for us.
John Pierce
191 Posted 16/01/2018 at 17:58:06
'Excited to work with Allardyce' I hear of Theo, does he know he won't have the ball for most of the game? Some might say that might play to a counter attacking player one obvious flaw we don't.

Does he know he's been signing as a defensive right winger? I knew of no such position until I saw Aaron Lennon play under Allardyce.

The potential front 4 of GF, GT, YB & TW look okay but not if we have no transition in midfield, Rooney might beable to supply to ammuniction if he's protected.

Last time a midfielder got in the oppo's box, probably Gana at Bournemeouth, blue moon that night I bet. One mobile, decent passing midfielder please...

Colin Glassar
192 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:00:55
What happened to Lyndon’s tweet about Rigatoni? I got all excited thinking about him. What happened Lyndon?
Dave Williams
193 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:01:48
Can't see the problem myself. We have been banging on all season about there being no pace in the team and he is one of the quickest strikers in the game.
He scores goals and will cause defences to keep a couple of players back to cover in case of a break, leaving gaps elsewhere for us to exploit.
He is English so won't need time to settle in and Tocsun needs this type of player to creat space for him and get some crosses in to him.
Barkley plus £5m for him seems decent enough to me.
Oliver Brunel
194 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:03:33
Remember Walcott has been surrounded by proper ball winning and playing midfielders who can pass the ball accurately over 2-3 metres. Who will be passing the ball to Walcott?!
David Booth
197 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:07:25
Just what we DON'T need: another near-30s misfit who a top six club want to offload to someone below them to maintain the status quo in one easy manoeuvre.

Not only that, we'll give them upwards of £20m towards their purchase of a quality player who will enhance their long-term prospects and maintain the divide between them and us.

Why do we continually fall for this con-trick?

Worse, we don't need him. We already have Bolasie there, with Lennon behind him and also Lookman and Vlasic eager for a place. The latter two are the future, not someone who has flattered to deceive throughout his career at Arsenal, punctuated by regular lengthy spells on the treatment table.

The board seem determined to shape the team in their own image: six players all vying for the same role and - none where they are most needed.

Sadly, my opinion will have no bearing whatsoever on what looks like a done deal. I can only hope that Southampton want him more and he sees that as a better option (please).

But as long as we set our sights so relatively low, we will never achieve the heights we aspire to.

How can a team comprising inferior talents and players in the twilight of their careers hope to form a unit capable of challenging those above us?

It's fanciful and completely unfeasible.

We have become a club that is more concerned with being nice and giving ridiculous long-term contracts to numerous players who are either simply not good enough, injury-prone or fourth choice in an overloaded position - instead of buying that player 'we can't get' and making a statement. Let's try doing that for a change, then, others will come.

Until that time, if ever it arrives, this is as good as it gets. And it is not good enough.

PS: is it worth letting Allardyce, Walsh, Kenwright and Moshiri know that we need a left back, as I don't think they have quite got it yet?


David Pearl
198 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:10:45
How can anyone say that having a proven goal scorer and assist maker is a bad signing. How?
He is more productive than Bolasie, Lennon and Mirallas put together ffs
Brian Hennessy
199 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:11:49
Oliver #194 - Don't tell Theo, but the most frequent way he will receive the ball will be a booming kick from Jordan Pickford. His pace won't be much use with a ball coming from the sky with snow on it.

Not to worry, a few weeks with big Dunk working on his heading and Walcott will be the new Andy Carroll...

David Booth
200 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:12:06
Because he's never really made it David and Arsenal can't wait to get rid of him?
David Israel
201 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:17:44
Chris #82, you're absolutely right: Brian borrowed, while David burrowed.
Geoff Lambert
202 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:25:27
He is a best of the rest player so at the moment we are lucky he chose to play for such a mediocre team, all the moners saying sign this player sign that player... they don't want to come to Everton "Yet".

Glad to see someone with pace and who can score in the Prem, Champions league, and for his Country.

Lets get behind him and make him feel special Maybe just maybe the fans will make him feel like he belongs at Everton and he will play at the top of his game.

Martin Reppion
203 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:27:14
Michael *63.
I said David Burrows not Brian Borrows.
13 years and the width of the pitch apart.
Jamie Evans
204 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:35:27
Welcome Theo and good luck at our great club.

If you don't score a hat - trick in each of your first 10 games then you may want to stay away from ToffeeWeb.

John Pierce
205 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:36:53
Oliver bang on there mate. Proven in a top 4 side were he only had to concentrate on going forward.

Sure not having the ball might play to his counter-attacking strength but really the lad with find it tough without the ball. Theo lad you will need to track back? Theo: “whats that boss?”

Given the fact those goals and assists have come from a plethora of chances, not known for being mister clinical, how do you think the lad will thrive under 0-1 chances a game?

He aint the solution, a creative midfielder is.

David Israel
206 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:38:17
A rumour springs up that David Moyes is looking at Tom Davies, and suddenly all hell breaks loose on Sam Allardyce for wanting to sell him. Some good old horse-sense is called for here.
Jack Convery
207 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:43:44
We spent £200m in the summer and yet a player who cannot get a game at Arsenal, who are in decline by the way, can just walk in to are starting XI. Marvellous. Where is the bloody left back or has Cuco got photos of goats, BK and a bottle of merlot.
Colin Glassar
208 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:45:29
Passed his medical with flying colours. Bill has gone out to borrow a pen so the contract can be signed. Echoes of Fernandes?
David Pearl
209 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:46:21
Walcott has the pace to run with the ball and also to play off the front man. We need improving in all areas of the pitch but without a goal threat we may as well not play at all. We might even have a shot on goal this coming weekend. I wonder what the odds are...
Eddie Dunn
210 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:54:47
Andrew144. Sanches at Swansea has been a big disappointment. I have seen him a few times and mates who are STHs at the Liberty tell me he's nor adapted. He needs too long on the ball and struggles with the speed of the game.
I don't think he would do any better at Goodison.
How about a cheeky offer to the reds for Can- his contract is nearly out and it would make them have to play that donkey Henderson!
Mark Wynne
211 Posted 16/01/2018 at 18:56:45
Is this the miracle worker’s plan: play a flat back ten and hope to run on to a clearance over the top?

Seriously, fuck Allardyce.

Kevin Tully
212 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:03:15
At least he'll bring some much needed energy to this mob. Honestly, sometimes we look hungover when playing against the likes of Spurs. Half expecting one of ours to stroll over behind the goal and have a good spew like a Sunday League special.

Better than any of our current 'strollers' who can't wait to pass it sideways. He'll look to get forward. Amazing what you can achieve when you know which way you're kicking.

James Marshall
213 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:03:28
I'm genuinely excited about signing Walcott.

I may be in the minority but it feels like something of a marquee signing for a club like ours.

Feel free to shoot me down.

Henrik Lyngsie
215 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:09:02
I am really underwhelmed by the signing of Walcott. Maybe the logic is that he offers pace and that is surely missing.

But I think it reflects how difficult our position is. We are the best of the rest. 7th last season and probably richest of the rest as well. But to move on from 7th spot requires top 6 level players. And they don’t fancy to move to number 7. Unless they are paid a premium.
When City found their oil they had a few seasons where they had finances to buy the very best. But the very best did not go there. So they had to settle for the second best and paid a premium. When they eventually became a top 4 club they could attract the very best with their fortunes.
We do not have that kind of finances but which makes our situation in the market very difficult.

In the summer we bought Sandro, Klassen and Keane and most people saw that is smart buys of players ready for the next step. It just demonstrates how difficult it is to find the players who can make us progress. Some will argue that Leicester did it which is right. But for each Mahrez or Vardy you will have 50 flops.

Brian Wilkinson
216 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:10:50
Be a good signing alongside Tosun, I know a few want Shaw but I would take a punt at Celtics left back Tierney, he could be a shrewd buy.

I also like Garbutt and would be more than happy if we register the guy.

Paul Kossoff
217 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:14:18
The BBC having a right go at us.
New Year, new you. This is the month that many people attempt to make amends for a gluttonous December by cutting out all the bad stuff for four weeks.

Everton are embarking on a dry January of their own, but not the good kind.

In the two Premier League games played since the turn of the year, the Toffees have picked up no points, scored no goals and not even managed a single shot on target.

Sam Allardyce's solution to his side's attacking woes? Become more boring...
Everton have also had four Premier League games so far this season in which they have failed to manage a single shot on target - no side has failed to do so in more games.

None of that bodes particularly well when it comes to Everton's hopes of ending their January goal drought.

But Allardyce knows that.

He has brought in Cenk Tosun and Arsenal forward Theo Walcott has also been linked with the club. The former Crystal Palace boss has tightened up the Toffees since replacing Ronald Koeman and while that has come at the expense of more adventurous football, they have been a touch more clinical with the opportunities they have had.

The addition of some better finishers might just be the final part of the jigsaw. Here is hoping!

Andy Crooks
218 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:15:20
Steve Ferns, I followed that link with fingers crossed that I wouldn't be evangelic about him on it. Dave Wilson comes out of it looking wise( it wasn' t all mad in those days, Dave).
Sam Hoare, I am surprised at your response to this, likely, signing. I thought it would be right up your street. I see what you mean about value but I side with James Marshall on this. I will fret about relegation but I will not fret about rich men spending their money. Walcott will be great for us and, frankly, fuck the sell on value.

By the way, Sam, I am always thoroughly impressed with your knowledge of other leagues and players. I say get shot of Walsh and Ferguson.. Bring in Hoare and Ferns!

Keith Harrison
219 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:19:37
Brian, 214. Red hot.
Christy Ring
220 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:22:37
He'll bring plenty of pace, skill and can score goals, a good addition. A left back has to be a priority now.

Ian Edwards
221 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:28:16
Dave Abrahams 104.

If you want Kenny and another two like him you must enjoy Championship football. Worst Right Back I’ve seen at the club and I go back to mid 70’s.

I’ll happily take Martina. He’s not been at fault for any goal conceded. The scapegoating of him shames the club.

Steve Ferns
222 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:28:54
To those who criticise the technical parts of his game, I would ask you to consider two things.

Firstly, Wenger is a manager who coaches his players to use their own intelligence. He is very hands off in terms of attacking game plans. Yes they work on technique and passing in training, but out on the pitch it's over to them. Clever players like Sanchez and Ozil can flourish. Players lacking mentally will struggle.

Allardyce is the opposite. Football for dummies. Players are given specific instructions of where to run and what to do.

Theo will get wide and get crosses in or come inside and shoot. There will be less fancy passing, and less reliance on his intelligence.

Jay Woods
[LAT]

223 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:33:31
I welcome this signing.

We're stuck in a league with 6 clubs ahead of us in terms of playing staff, wealth, infrastructure, planning, scouting, marketing, prestige, etc., which is why players like, say, Aubameyang, won't be coming anywhere near us for a while.

Sure, we can aspire to get in among and eventually rise to the top of that cluster of current elites, but it's not going to happen overnight.

In the meantime, therefore, I'll take anyone better than what we have. Meaning, I welcome Walcott.

Steve Ferns
224 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:34:50
Andy, thanks for the endorsement, but may I remind you I would have recommended the board hire Frank de Boer instead of Koeman! And I would have given two thumbs up to Davy Klaassen!

Bearing in mind our record, can we have a rule not to sign any more Dutchmen?

Ray Atteveld, Andy Van Der Meyde, Royston Drenthe, Johnny Heitinga, Martin Stekelenberg, Cuco Martina (Dutch born), and Ronald Koeman. Not all of them where terrible, but none were a success (well except Heitinga for a season or so).

Frank Crewe
225 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:36:29
Ian you can't criticise local boys Kenny, and Davies. Of course Walcott is fair game. Overpriced, overrated, a cast off (which is any player we buy according to some). There are those who live in a fantasy of a team of home grown youngsters who will carry all before them .in five years.
Sam Hoare
226 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:39:49
Andy@218, I live on hope for the future so have a bias towards us signing younger players even though there's usually more risk involved!

I'm actually not as opposed to this signing as I have seemed on this thread. I think he will be fine, he will almost definitely improves us when fit and I will certainly be pleased if it means that Allardyce plays with two wingers as opposed to Sigurdsson who's clearly better suited to the middle.

I just feel that we have spent a rather huge amount of money building a relatively average team and I'm not convinced Walcott breaks that trend.

Lenny Kingman
227 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:45:49
Maybe Moshiri saw something in him when they were both Gunners. Bit like when he watched Tosun when he played against Monaco in the Champions League. Moshiri, the new Walshie. He can let that pixie faced buffoon go now.

Okay, Theo, who loves yer baby? A blue heaven awaits if you can bring a sense of style and class back to the grand old team, starting with a tour de force against the Neanderthals from Allardyce's homeland on Saturday.

Craig Walker
228 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:46:11
He probably wouldn’t get a game at another top 6 side but he’s an upgrade on Mirallas and is a good signing in my view. If we sell Niasse then that will be good business. We need to trim the squad and strengthen to get a centre back, some guile in midfield and a first choice left back. We still have too many players who aren’t good enough e.g. Besic, Stek, Lennon, Niasse, Williams etc.
Geoff Lambert
229 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:49:56
This^^^^^^^
Dave Evans
230 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:51:11
# Good post Henrik - sums up the situation well.
Also Walcott not ideal but a step up from the forwards we have.
Brian Hennessy
231 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:51:20
If United do sign Sanchez, what about a bid for Mata?

Out of contract in the Summer so would be cheap. I think he will be the one to make way in the team for Sanchez and he is exactly the type of player we are missing - although I can't see him being part of Sam's style of play unfortunately.

Offer them 10 million, or 15 million along with Schneiderlin

Chris Clark
232 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:51:26
Spurs spent £35M on Sissoko is he twice the player? £20M is what the better than average players cost. He improves our starting 11 and has about 5 good years left in him. If it doesn't work out I'm sure Sunderland or WBA will take him for a good fee.
Rob Dolby
234 Posted 16/01/2018 at 19:54:32
We needed 2 strikers at the start of the season and now in January and we have finally got them.

Walcott has signed as he knows that with a run in the team he will be on the plane to Russia. The 2 strikers that we have are probably the best we could have got given the fact that we have been shite this season.

We now need a left footed defender wing back.

Brian Williams
236 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:01:16
That would be a very tasty line-up Col.
John Mckay
237 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:03:10
Nice free signing since we used their owners' sponsorship money to buy him!
Brian Harrison
238 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:09:40
Well I hope with a new Centre forward and another striker both making their home debuts we will take the game to West Brom. I know people arent dancing in the street with this signing, but if some weeks back you were given a choice from 2 Arsenal players Oxlaide Chamberlain or Walcott 90% would pick Walcott. I think even my red mates would agree on that

So lets hope finally Allardyce ditches the 9 men behind the ball football. Surely Bristol City gave everyone a lesson when playing the best team in the league. Yes you have to defend properly but when you get the ball have the courage to attack and not just with a one player attack.

Jason Wilkinson
239 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:16:10
Just read on BBC sport. "Everton conduct a lengthy medical. So it makes sense to start that while negotiations continue."

Theo picking his favourite corner of the treatment room then?

Danny O'Neill
240 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:20:21
I hope so Paul Kossoff!!

Whilst I dismayed at Allardyce's "too adventurous/ must be more boring" comments (feel sick where was the alleged adventure?), I get your "he knows it" argument in terms of the woeful attempts on target ratio.

I would however contest he's sured us up at the back. We've just shifted 10 goals in 4 games; rather easily as well. Basically the plan of trying not to concede only works if you well don't concede as there is no other apparent plan. Fingers crossed hope for the best. That's about as technical as the tactics seem to be.

This season another 8 points should be job done then he can go ,,,,,hopefully.

Geoff Evans
241 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:21:20
Welcome to the Kenwright and Moshiri Benevolent Home For Hasbeens and Never Were.

I fecking dispair.

Dave Abrahams
242 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:22:29
Ian (221), fair enough, you stick with Martina, you are welcome to him, I am confident Jonjo will make a consistently good right back and will be here for many years, don't think Martina will get another contract off Everton.
Christy Ring
243 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:26:48
Ian @221 Totally over the top with your comment about Kenny. You must have forgotten about Hottiger, Atteveld, Jacobsen and Cleland.
Tony Everan
244 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:28:28
It’s good news we are “conducting a lengthy medical”.

Means we are being thorough.

Or maybe they’ve found something they need a second opinion on.

Darren Hind
245 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:33:29
He's entitled to file a significant number of his goals under "All my own work"

Electric on his day and his goal record speaks for itself. I think most of us feel our arses have been superglued to our seat. Would be nice to have somebody who is capable of getting us out of it.

Andy Crooks
246 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:35:12
Sam, De Boer was utterly shafted by Palace and I think Klaassen has not had a fair deal at Everton. I believe he us a top player who will thrive with a run in the team. I believe De Boer was desperately unlucky at Palace; he had them playing well. When Sam goes I would have him here.

We need to be patient with a coach and I think that should extend to Sam. Of course I and others will put the boot in after an abject display. But, he deserves no less time than anyone else.

We are going to have to take a risk with a coach unless we get incredibly lucky. Unsworth would have been my gamble. However, it's Sam. Forty points and sack him would, in my view, be totally unfair.

Jerome Shields
247 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:36:10
Can't see how he will fit into a team managed by Allardyce. Aaron Lennon is a better player because of his work rate and effort. Walcott misses a lot of games. Maybe his work rate and effort is suspect. If this is not so, he is injury prone.

£20million is too much for a player who isn't a regular first team choice. Can't think of any defensive good points. Would prefer a good young centre half, which would make more sense.
Unfortunately muppets seem to the fore in Everton these days, as far as transfer decisions are concerned.
Geoff Lambert
248 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:39:20
Geoff #241 better get back to signing Messi and Aguero on Football Manager lad.

Pull your keks up and give your head a wobble .

Sam Hoare
249 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:46:35
Andy I think you are replying to Steve but agree with all you say. As for Klaassen id love to see him get another shot especially now we have some pace and movement hopefully on the wings, he has the vision and first time passing to best utilise runs in behind. I'm hoping he might now have got a bit stronger and fitter too.

In a home game when we might expect to have some more of the ball i'd love to see:

Pickford
Kenny Holgate William AnewLB!
Klaassen Gueye Siggurdsson
Walcott Tosun Bolasie

Colin Glassar
250 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:50:32
Andy, I'd also like to see Klaassen get a crack at regular football. If it's not at Everton I'd like to see him, and Sandro, get loaned out for the rest of the summer to somewhere like Brighton or Bournemouth where they try and play with the ball. I think it would be helpful for all concerned.
Dave Williams
251 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:51:45
Ian Edwards, you may go back to the seventies but your memory of our right backs hasn't survived the test of time.

Quite apart from the fact that Kenny is a young kid making his way in a very poor side and has stacks of promise to anyone who has really watched him we have had far worse right backs.

Try John Barton, Mark Hottiger, Terry Darracott, John O' Kane, Ray Atteveld, Neil MC Donald, Neil Robinson, Paul Holmes,Tony Thomas – that's just off the top of my head and there must be more.

Kenny will be a very good player provided we don't get on his back.

Björn Kausemann
252 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:53:02
Signing Zaha would be magic. He is an absolut famous player. He scores goal and his dribblings and delivere are amazing. But Palace won't let him go.
If I was Walsh I would do everything to get him.
Dave Williams
253 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:54:18
Christy, nice one, I forgot about Cleland though omitted Claus thinking he was more midfield.

To cheer myself up I sometimes assemble our worst team since 1963 and my god it shows how well off we are now!

Dave Williams
254 Posted 16/01/2018 at 20:59:26
Lars not Claus!
Both would be in my worst team ever.
Geoff Evans
255 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:01:41
There are people on this site who seem to think any signing is better than no signing.

Walcott will be another one who'll spend more time on the Finch Farm treatment table than on the pitch.

Arsenal aren't satisfied with taking six easy points off Everton most seasons, there now taking the club's money and offloading their surplus shite as well.

Good old Everton, mugs on the pitch and off.

David Booth
256 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:06:03
Geoff (255): in a nutshell!
Dale Rose
257 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:11:52
Good buy. He will bloom at Everton. Has a lot of potential for regular games. Will be a good mentor for some of the youngsters. Once we have reinforced the defence, things will dramatically improve.
Andy Crooks
258 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:13:59
Geoff, I bow to no one in my pessimism but maybe Walcott will stay fit and get a new lease of life. Surely, if that is the case you will embrace and enjoy the goals he brings us. I have a good feeling about this signing so don't ruin the little optimism our club give us right now.Yes, yes, you are probably right FFS.
Brent Stephens
259 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:16:34
Geoff #255 – how much time has Walcott actually spent on the treatment table in recent years? Or is the answer earlier in this thread?
Eric Paul
260 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:17:22
Ian Edwards,

I've been going to Goodison Park since the 1969-70 season but you don't have to go back too far to find a worse right back than Kenny and you only have to go to the local park on Sunday to find a better right back than Martina. He would be in Everton's all-time worst 11 at left- or right-back: he was Southampton's third-choice for a reason...

Roger Helm
261 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:17:42
It is part of the plan - two banks of four behind our 30 yard line for 80 minutes, then a long ball to Tosun’s head who flicks on for Theo to sprint on - 1-0 to us.
Danny O'Neill
262 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:25:30
I too am in the would like to see Klaassen given a chance. The lad has has a football brain and in my opinion suffered from having to adjust to a new league at a time when there was an influx of new players unfamiliar with each other (never a great recipie) compounded by the manager losing it and a toxic atmosphere setting in around the club pretty rapidly. He tastes the proverbial shit sandwich and struggled accordingly.
Geoff Lambert
263 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:29:34
Geoff #255

And you would sign ?????

No one??

Geoff Evans
264 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:30:01
Andy 258: I really hope for the supporters sake that my pessimism is unfounded but if he can't get a game for an average Arsenal team what is he going to bring to us?

Why aren't we giving young Lookman a chance, a lad with a future and not a player that Wenger (a manager with a top pedigree and trophies to back it up) seems to think is surplus to Arsenal's rebuilding?

Geoff Lambert
265 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:30:59
Love some people on this site that slag our signings off before even watching them in a blue shirt.

Pathetic

Iain Johnston
266 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:35:39
Sam #226. That's the problem, with all the money in the Premier League now. £20M only gets you middle of the road.

The RS paid £35M for Chamberlain; okay, he's 3 years younger but was in the last year of his contract and had – and still does have – similar bench-warming attributes plus his injury problems (total of 513 days since 12-13). His career path has mirrored Walcott's (478 days due to injury during the same period).

Rob Young
267 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:41:16
Geoff, none of our players would get a game in that average Arsenal squad team that twatted us 2-5 at Goodison this season.
Maybe their reserve players can be at least as good as our first teamers?
Geoff Evans
268 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:45:51
Rob: Hope so!
Len Hawkins
269 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:49:58
This "crock" has played 397 games for Arsenal who if you didn't know have qualified for Europe regularly finished in the top 4 regularly if he had been as crocked as Andy Gray or Peter Reid I could understand the pessimism.

Perhaps Boy's Pen Bill can get Barcelona or Real Madrid or Bayern Munich or PSG to change their name to Everton then you doubters can really get behind your/our/their team – you obviously really do not want Everton to do well in their current guise.

Glory Hunters are ten a penny, that shithole across the park is full of them.

James Flynn
270 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:51:02
Is Klaassen anywhere around the Club?

Not training with the U-23s. Not out injured. Not a hint of a rumor in this Window.

I mean, where the fuck is he?

It's one thing to move up a league and not get as much game time. Nothing unusual there. Happens all the time. Routine.

But, for the linchpin of a team went to the Europa League Final to disappear completely, months later, is odd.

Can we get an APB sent out on the Evertonian Davy Klaassen. I'm worried.

Christ, he can't be THAT bad.

Jay Harris
271 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:53:28
I thought about committing suicide having read most of the posts.

I have to say I'm glad ToffeeWeb is not representative of the lad's welcome to Everton committee.

I don't know how the fuck he has managed to score 117 goals and play for England 47 times seeing as he has been permanently on the treatment table, offside or miskicked in front of goal according to most posts.

Oh I know the Arsenal supporters all moan about him and are glad to see him go. Well I can tell you the Arsenal supporters I know are worse moaners than some on ToffeeWeb. They would be glad to see the back of anyone including Sanchez and Ozil.

No wonder players don't perform to their potential when there are so many moaning fuckers just wanting them to fail.

Iain Johnston
272 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:53:34
Geoff (#264). I'm all for giving Lookman a chance but he plays on the opposite side to Walcott.

Walcott will score in the double figures if he's given 20+ games a season, I'm personally looking forward to seeing him running down the right wing for us rather than against us.

I'd love to see both Lookman & Walcott either side of Gylfi with Tosun up top. I'd partner Davies with Gana too.

Ray Robinson
273 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:54:27
Colin #250, why would you loan Klaassen or Sandro out to a potential relegation rival? If they came good there, it could be at our expense. Makes no sense at all. Why do you think teams like that would want him anyway?
Tom Dodds
274 Posted 16/01/2018 at 21:57:48
Agree with a lot of the posts above, I think the bullet should be bitten and give Klaassen and Sandro a decent run...

As soon as we hit 40 points of course.

James Flynn
275 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:02:17
Jay (271) - "I thought about committing suicide having read most of the posts. . . . . . . I don't know how the fuck he has managed to score 117 goals and play for England 47 times seeing as he has been permanently on the treatment table, offside or miskicked in front of goal according to most posts."

Gave me a smile.

Well done.

Geoff Evans
276 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:05:15
Len: When was the last time he got a game.

Not interested in what he has done for Arsenal, more interested in what he can do for Everton, if anything.

Looks like we'll soon find out.

Good luck to him.

Terry Riley
277 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:06:10
I live in the Netherlands and, listening to the cloggie commentators the other day during the Spurs game, I heard this "I can't believe Klaassen can 't get into this team".

They also still can't believe that Koeman was sacked for such poor results!

Mike Gaynes
278 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:07:40
Brent #259 and others... I looked it up on TransferMarkt. Walcott's recent injury history really isn't bad at all.

He picked up the reputation as a crock in 2013-14 when he missed two months with a torn abdominal muscle and then blew out his knee and was out ten months after surgery. He came back in 2015 and promptly pulled a groin muscle.

But since returning to the lineup in December 2015, he has missed only 16 games in three years to injury. Considering how many hacking fouls he draws, that's pretty good.

Tony Hill
279 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:09:51
Jay (#271), your last sentence applies equally to the reception of the manager. God knows which virtual Everton club and side these people support.
Geoff Evans
280 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:10:11
Mike 278: He's been bench warming lately then?
Mike Gaynes
281 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:17:12
Yep, Geoff, no injuries this year... just not on Wenger's radar.
Mike Gaynes
282 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:24:57
Dave #251 and Christy #243, I remember some of those. Didn't think Lars was that bad to be honest.

But the absolute worst I ever saw was the 4th-choice RB that Moyes stuck in the lineup when his first three choices went down injured. Little chap just back from a loan to Blackpool. I've never seen a more fundamentally inept headless chicken than Seamus was then. But he didn't turn out too badly.

And Kenny is in every way more defensively developed at 20 than Seamus was as 22 -- positionally, man-marking, everything. Anybody who doesn't see great potential there (Ian #221) is out of his tree IMO.

Ian Horan
283 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:28:31
Walcott has over 100 goals in 397 games. Of the 397 games 30% were substitute appearances. Pretty impressive return really. Then you factor in players ahead of him have been Van Persie. Giroud. Sanchez. Lacazette. Arsenal have also migrated to wingbacks over the past 18 months.

At 28 or 29 this is a good deal for us. I believe we are missing the understanding of what a supporter means. Once Theo has a blue shirt on, he gets my backing .

Oliver Molloy
284 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:33:46
There are some players whose heads have dropped and Sam Allardyce doesn't want these players round the place (see what he says about Sandro dropping himself!)

Klaassen is looking to get back to Holland; Sandro is looking to get back to Spain; Mirallas got his wish. Lookman isn't happy... nor is Vlasic.

I heard on Monday that Martina had a meeting with Allardyce on Sunday, arguing he was taking the brunt of criticism playing at left-back and wants Sam to play him in his correct position!

I don't believe for a minute that Allardyce is buying these new players – it's all Walsh and this will be his last window if he has got it wrong again!

Geoff Lambert
285 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:34:42
I am suprised some of the Walcott haters are actually on the forum tonight.
Thought they might be at Finch Farm gates waiting to shout "fuck off back to Arsenal your shit" when he comes out in his Everton shirt.

I bet some of them sit behind me in the main stand you hear them shouting abuse at our players at every home game.

Neil Carter
286 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:36:10
Wonder if it will be Sunderland trying to offload Barkley in a couple of years time?
Brian Williams
287 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:40:05
Geoff#285.
Maybe it's too far to travel for 'em ;-)
Jamie Sweet
288 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:40:25
*IF* we can get him fit and playing week in week out then there is potential for this to be a great signing.

In only 4 of his 11 seasons at Arsenal has Walcott played in over 50% of their league fixtures. In those years, his attacking returns were pretty decent:

10-11 Goals 9 Assists 8
11-12 Goals 8 Assist 11
12-13 Goals 14 Assists 13
16-17 Goals 10 Assists 3

Total Goals 41 Assists 35

In these four seasons he still only managed to appear in an average of 24 games.

Quick calculation based on goals and assists per minute shows that across 38 games, he would average 16 goals and 14 assists per season.

Now obviously we won't get him playing every minute for the rest of the season. Nor will he be playing in a side that can pass the ball like Arsenal.

But it shows that he potentially has far greater goal threat than any other wide player we currently have in the team. He adds pace that we so desperately lack. He will be fighting for a place on the plane to Russia. All these factors make this deal, in my mind, a risk worth taking.

Barry Jones
289 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:48:23
Walcott is a great player. He needs to stay fit and get an extended run to boost his confidence. If this happens then he should do well for us.
Barry Williams
290 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:53:29
I will 100% believe he has signed when he holds up an Everton shirt and is stood with a club official!

Is he better than what we have got? Yes.

Is he better than what we have let go? Arguably yes.

Is he expensive? (ridiculously) no! (20,000,000, the game has gone mad!).

Is he at his peak? Arguably yes!

Does he have a point to prove? Yes

If he signs, we are a pacy striker and a forward better off than we were last week. That is quite significant me thinks!

Andy Williams
291 Posted 16/01/2018 at 22:54:08
Just a quick word on those worried about Arse supporters wanting Theo gone - there are many on here who wanted Barkley and Lukaku gone - many not in a sour way but because they genuinely thought they were not good enough. Also would like to see Klaassen given a proper chance - could be exactly what we need.
Raymond Fox
292 Posted 16/01/2018 at 23:12:37
Following on from Geoffs posts on comments made on this forum.
Criticism is fair enough but calling players, managers and other officials shit and worse is out of order on a public forum from where I'm standing.
They probably should have more sense than look on forums, but its only human nature for players and club officials to have a peep on here from time to time to see what fans are saying about them.

Over the top remarks/abuse are hardly likely to endear them to our club.
Seems like some compete to be the most vehement critic.

Tom Bowers
293 Posted 16/01/2018 at 23:13:09
The big question is: When and where does he play? Before his last injury at Arsenal, he had asked not to be played wide anymore and be played more as a central striker. Upon his return he had lost his starting place and has not been given much of a chance since.

We know his pedigree and he can score goals but will he play behind Tosun and Bolasie? As nobody's place is guaranteed these days given the pathetic attempts on goal in recent weeks one would think he will get some time against Albion.

Everton have a surplus of players out of favour and some may be considered for that game also. Even Allardyce couldn't pick the same woeful team as last Saturday or will he.

Defensively they are all at sea and teams like Spurs are always likely to take them to the cleaners barring the odd game when they make a lucky survival and get a point like the RS game.

Without any immediate influx of reinforcements in that area it's difficult to see them being capable of winning games even with Walcott and Tosun.

I am ready to admit that I thought after the return of Macca and Bolasie that they would be a better team but the malaise from earlier in the season just drags on.

Albion are not much so this may be an opportunity for 3 points but they need the attacking intensity from the start and much better control in the middle third.

Geoff Lambert
294 Posted 16/01/2018 at 23:22:21
Tony! stop talking sense like that, the men in white coats will be coming for you haha.
John Boon
295 Posted 16/01/2018 at 23:38:25
I have mixed feelings about Walcott, but at his best he can be very good. Sometimes people just need a change to recharge their batteries. This can be true in any profession or job, and I don't think it is any different for a footballer.
There have been many good players who have really benefited from a change of club. Peter Beardsley is one and another is Johnny Morrisey who left the Rs to become miles better with us. I am sure you can all recall others.

After very questionable summer signings, I think the last three, Vlasic, Tosun and Walcott could all prove to be good buys. I would like to see all three play on Saturday. At the present moment Walcott still hasn't signed and with Everton and you can never be sure until he is photographed smiling next to Allardyce.

Steven Jones
296 Posted 16/01/2018 at 00:39:53
Can anyone name a more prolific goal scoring winger?

Kanchelskis anyone...? 72 career goals versus 65 for Theo and still counting ?

This is a dream signing for me . we could only get near someone like this with an idiot Wenger not using a great talent . We are lucky getting a roll of the dice for a winger who scored 19 goals last season .

This is the cutting edge we need

David Israel
297 Posted 17/01/2018 at 00:42:43
Off-topic. I have noticed a few posters on the site, recently, with seemingly Scandinavian names - and they're most welcome, of course. So, please, no more Norwegian jokes when mentioning the RS. :-)
John Pierce
298 Posted 17/01/2018 at 01:00:41
Question; what don’t we already know about Walcott? Very little actually, quick, lightweight and often profligate in an Arsenal side that generates a bucketload of chances for their forwards.

Deffo an up side but what do we know about Vlasic & Lookman? Two players he will likely displace. Again little.

And thats the point, he will play minutes which should be given to those lads above. If after significant playing time neither are up to it then in the summer buy Theo. As it stands we gain nothing from buying him now and stunt potential, both players gave a much higher ceiling than Walcott.

This is a short term measure from a manager just thinking about himself. The move has absolutely no consideration for the medium term plans for the club. It’s selfish and myopic.

Nzonzi and van Arnholt rumours are just the same, just a short termism with players who take on Allardyce’s scripted plays and have no imagination other than that.

Add to that Allardyce pushing we need to be more boring and buying a centre forward and attacking winger in the same week. Mixed messages! The left hand certainly don’t know what the right hand is doing.

David Israel
301 Posted 17/01/2018 at 01:24:58
John #299, if we didn't sign him now, he'd go back to Southampton.
Si Cooper
302 Posted 17/01/2018 at 01:36:27
Definitely worth a punt. If we can get the best he has to offer out of him he will make a difference. Bolasie gives the impression he needs five yards to build up his speed, but Walcott could be lightning off the mark in a number of directions which makes him a particular threat when attacking the box.

Hopefully his impact will be up there with the likes of Limpar and Beardsley who both came to Everton with plenty left to give, though I would hope for a longer term fruitful association.

John Pierce
303 Posted 17/01/2018 at 01:59:59
So David, with little to play for this season, why get a guy who will eat minutes for Lookmam & Vlasic?

We have an opportunity to get our preseason started now. Walcott offers no insight, if the lads above get used to playing in the prem this is the best way to acclimate them.

Phil Smith
304 Posted 17/01/2018 at 02:03:01
Some people on here are totally delusional about this club and modern football in general. Give Walcott a few games. He offers real pace – something we are crying out for a the moment. He gives us an out ball and speed on the counter.

We need to start playing Lookman up with the other new guy and use what little pace we have in the side. Rooney + Gilfi or Klaassen = death by Pedestrianism!

Andrew Yates
305 Posted 17/01/2018 at 03:20:54
Walcott may well be a success as much as he may well be a flop.

I don't post very often, moreover enjoy reading the various arguements, contradictions, tactical nouse and spoutings of my fellow Evertonians. This may well be my last post in fact (it's 2:55 am currently!).

Walcott is erratic, pacey, ineffective, dynamic, potentially great, often flatters to deceive, what he is though is the perfect model of a modern footballer. Unwilling to over stretch himself that much at risk of injury, god forbid a strained thigh whilst trying to keep the ball in which could have potentially sent you flying down the wing to whip in a driving low cross which Tosun just managed to get a toe on to divert nicely into the far corner, winning the game 2-1 at the death against an average Watford.

He knows where he stands, he's all too aware of his social media profile (is this move good for my profile? #doireallycareaboutfootball/efcinparticular) in reality does he care, his bank balance I'm sure will remedy any real thoughts on the matter.

He'll be well versed in the elite sports facility on offer, the nutritionists and backroom staff all on hand to polish his bollocks should he need it and when it comes round to 3pm he'll run around in his little world and might do some nice things, but will he care, I mean really care? No, no he won't. Our modern players are either too dumb or too intelligent, either way they win personally.

When was the last time we saw 'a footballer' get his knees dirty, play on with a strained calf, skid into the hoardings, get up and shake a fans hand and trudge on, 1993?

Whether we sign Walcott or not, his arrival I will support, but I can't love him like I loved Mark Ward (I actually only think I liked him because he wore the Number 7) as an awe inspired 10-year-old. The game has become too clean, too elitist and too damn boring for me to be that bothered, we will only ever be able to compete if we have the billions upon billions of the other big clubs but at that point, if we ever get there, the game will be a shadow of what it once was, a pale imitation of the game, that game that when I play every now and then and come home with a shredded left shin because I had to make that tackle on a crappy pitch (3G - so modern!!) and my wife says "why'd you do it luv?" I say, because I had to, they would've scored???

Our current squad wouldn't have risked it, you can't make that sort of tackle, football now barely allows it. Theo may prosper and good luck to the multi millionaire 28-year-old who has never achieved his 'potential'. It's not his fault, it's the games fault and the people who run it, but give me Mark Ward any day, or well at least maybe once he's served his sentence .

Ernie Baywood
306 Posted 17/01/2018 at 03:57:45
Interesting to read criticism on the basis that he's on the decline, his career is going backwards etc...

Why else would a player sign for Everton right now? A year ago we had a 'project' to sell. That 'project' looks like an absolute shambles now. We even managed to provoke a former player into telling the media that was the case (before suing us).

If he's the best we can do then so be it.

Now I await our incompetent management team realising that we don't have a left back.

Sam Hoare
307 Posted 17/01/2018 at 07:18:58
Theo Walcott's medical at Everton's training ground has been delayed after he drove down a Cul-de-sac and couldn't find his way out.

Colin Glassar
308 Posted 17/01/2018 at 07:51:21
I wonder how many players would actually sign for us if they were made to read TW for a day?
Dale Rose
309 Posted 17/01/2018 at 08:09:56
I like this guy. Always a nearly man at Arsenal, but I think he will come good for us. He needs the games and he will get that. With Tosun and Lookman up front with him that is a formidable forward line. If the other kid comes from Charlton in defence things should start to improve. I would like to see Galloway back though.

The problem at the moment is confidence, hopefully the arrival of Walcott will instill some.

Andy Williams
310 Posted 17/01/2018 at 08:11:16
Colin, if they have to be made to read TW, then they obviously don't have the commitment that playing for this club requires ergo they are shite, past it, too young, too slow, too fast, not proven, a reject and simply not good enough.
Peter Anthony
311 Posted 17/01/2018 at 08:21:12
Jim White said this morning it is now a done deal and will be formally announced later this morning.

Welcome Theo.

Geoff Evans
312 Posted 17/01/2018 at 08:22:50
Andrew 306: Absolutely superb comments.
Peter Anthony
313 Posted 17/01/2018 at 08:33:25
Andrew 306. Agree with your thoughts on how money has ruined so many admirable aspects of pre-Premier League era footy.

The best teams still work very hard though it seems, despite their wealth. Character so important.

Derek Thomas
314 Posted 17/01/2018 at 08:38:06
Andrew @ 306; if you think it's bad now, wait until they make it... but only more than likely for the top 6... a non-contact sport – that is if it isn't already unofficially like that now.
Barry Williams
315 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:02:33
Just some interesting takes on Lookman, Vlasic and Walcott taking their places. They have been given chances and, like most wingers/youngsters they have been inconsistent, sometimes looking great, sometimes less so. How many young lads can we have in the side at once?

If we were still in Europe and the cups, and pathetically by early January we are out of 3 competitions, they'd be getting more game time but, as it stands, Walcott signing will mean two things I reckon:

1. Less game time for the two aforementioned young players.

2. Chances for them to develop without the pressure of being considered the main providers in a very under-performing team/squad.

The signing may also mean that Bolasie's rehabilitation can be taken at a slower pace. It will also mean a premier league ready speedy attacker coming into the a team that can't score/get a shot in target. A team that has a new forward that'll need someone to supply him regularly, I don't think Lookman/Vlasic are that yet and Bolasie is way off full fitness and Lennon is often played for his defensive input. Adding Tosun and Walcott to a shot shy team can't be a bad thing, can it?

I know many on here have lamented Allardyce's reputation for not playing youngsters, and I can't argue against that as I don't have enough knowledge about the man's previous exploits. I judge what he has done at Everton thus far only.

Calvert-Lewin has been picked ahead of the more experienced Niasse and Sandro. Holgate has been put in his proper position ahead of Williams, Keane and Jagielka at times. Davies has had run-outs, I think his inconsistency has made his appearances less so recently (he is only 19 after all). Kenny has been given loads of game time, maybe a necessity, but a more senior pro could have been shoehorned into the right-back position, but hasn't. Lookman has been given chances and Vlasic less so. The recent team against Liverpool had 5 inexperienced youngsters involved all told.

Walcott isn't being signed to warm the bench, thus we could actually see Sigurdsson in his correct position. Now that is a good thing, isn't it?

Barry Williams
316 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:12:16
Andrew Yates - 306

The sport has become less physical, has more cheats and divers/unfair decisions given to the 'top 6 clubs' and the players not so likable! Why do I still watch!!??? Actually, I only watch Everton's games and that is enough!

Tony Abrahams
317 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:14:28
Andrew Yates, post more often mate, I've been feeling the same way about the beautiful game for years. On an off though, something keeps me interested, but the interest is definitely waning at the minute, because as you say, it's just seems to be "All about the money" for these highly pampered professionals.
Gwynfor Williams
318 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:15:59
Two things:

1. We will muck up this transfer as usual – he's had a medical yesterday and this move had already been rumoured for 5 days!! So why don't we do things quickly?

2. And more importantly, the left-back slot we need to either sign someone or register Garbutt or recall Galloway, even if Baines comes back, as we have no cover. Cuco Martina is garbage – the 1st goal against Spurs showed yet again the story of his season everytime he's played.

Michael Lynch
319 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:21:06
Tosun was our best player against Spurs by a country mile, looks miles better than anything we've had up front so far this year. Walcott walks into our side, as others have said, and is probably as good a player as we could hope to attract right now.

Great work in the transfer window so far. If we could pick up a left back, as we clearly don't have one at the club who is either fit or able to fill the role adequately, it would be a faultless window (Barkley was already gone).

Sam & Walsh probably deserve a bit of credit, but they won't get it from many on here.

As a footnote, I'd like to see Calvert-Lewin go out on loan next season. He has the potential to be a fantastic forward, but he's a long way off it right now. He needs a full season in the Championship.

Jamie Sweet
320 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:25:36
Done deal, just announced.
Brian Williams
321 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:28:23
Announced where Jamie?

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext!

And just to put a different perspective on Walcott's signing. Read the comments. Seems we're not the only moaning, negative fuckers around.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/16/southampton-fans-react-on-twitter-as-everton-sign-theo-walcott/

Paul McCoy
322 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:32:40
Walcott is a good (if sometimes maddeningly inconsistent) player and I for one am glad we've signed him.

Obviously there's no chance of us seeing the best out of him whilst Sam "I think we need to be even more boring" Allardyce is dictating the tactics. We may as well have just set £20m on fire near a corner flag as a distraction for the opposition.

Dave Abrahams
323 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:36:10
Andrew (306), you are a lot younger than me but your article says what a lot if fans, of all ages, are saying and thinking. Lots of us are very disillusioned by today's football and most of the people in it, players, managers, referees, sports writers, thick ex-players earning brewsters for giving their (ridiculous at times, some all the time) opinions.

Non-contact football is here to stay and makes boring games even more boring. Maybe football will kill itself and non-league football will take it's place. At least then we can see honest triers who love the game instead of the players you described in your excellent article.

Post more, Andrew, as my son Tony asked you to.

On the subject of Walcott's coming, maybe we will see more of Lookman and Vlasic with Bolasie playing all out one half before being replaced, or coming on for one of the younger players. My interest is now fully focussed on staying up, that is all that matters to me this season.

James Marshall
324 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:36:18
I can't find it anywhere online either – is that just an attention-seeking post, Jamie?
Shane Corcoran
325 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:43:01
If you scroll back up to late yesterday afternoon, there were similar posts to Jamie's.

It's a bit like the kid in class who shouts out "finished" and sits back smugly in his chair.

Oh, and I've just read there's a last minute hitch. He won't be signing.

Brian Williams
326 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:46:27
Now now boys, let's play nicely.

BTW we're now linked with a very promising young Brazilian left back, Gardeno Chairo.

Been left out all summer seemingly, and keen to get back to playing full tme.

James Marshall
327 Posted 17/01/2018 at 09:48:48
Shane - you're such an attention seeker.
Andrew Ellams
328 Posted 17/01/2018 at 10:16:14
SSN reporting medial passed, terms agreed but pen not put to paper yet.
Alex Doyle
329 Posted 17/01/2018 at 10:32:06
This strikes me as a good signing. It seems that transfers are very much a matter of opportunity and even if you have the cash, can't go out and buy who you want. They still need to be available and interested.

Walcott looks like he wants to play on a regular basis and isn't getting that at Arsenal. He's an upgrade on Lennon and can finish. 19 goals last season is not to be sneezed at. Could feasibly play through the centre up front or on the right side.

We still need someone who is able to put their foot on the ball and can get us stringing together some passes. With Seamus back, this will improve, but I'd be worried that playing Rooney in the midfield takes away our balance. Apart from the obvious requirement of a left back, that needs to be addressed.

Tony Abrahams
330 Posted 17/01/2018 at 10:45:14
The game has become less physical but there is now a lot more diving, why does everything have to be a contradiction?

The players have never earned so much money, but seem to have such little empathy, even more contradictions?

They say they are trying to eradicate diving in the box, but still give penalties, when it should really be an indirect free kick. Another contradiction, maybe?

How can Everton's players, pick up their wages this week, and genuinely not feel any shame, which is perhaps the biggest contradiction of them all?

Len Hawkins
331 Posted 17/01/2018 at 11:27:00
I just hope that something clicks before long and the players new and old get it together. Football is a simple game made complicated by tactics, money and the expectations of success-starved supporters.

At one time players got the ball and headed for their opponent's goal and they scored, missed or had the ball taken off them. Then their opponents did the same. Then someone came up with the game changer: Passing and the head down and run players were replaced by players who could pick a gap to one of their own in a better position.

Then someone decided the 6'-6" winger lobbing the ball over for the 4'-11" centre forward wasn't working so he switched the light on and swapped them around. Then once they stopped the giant in the middle crossing to the winger and they put the wingers boots on the last and hammered down the stud nails that were hampering his style the game took off.

A good big un will always beat a good little un was put to bed and players like Collins, Giles, Ball, Morrissey, Young & Stiles who would kick the crap out of any sized knuckle-dragger (except Young, he'd just skip over the desperate lunges).

So can we please go back to the simple game, instead of the deputy assistant coach showing the sub a diagram with a myriad of geometric lines, can he just point him towards the goal he needs to score in?

Players don't become bad players overnight (except if they sign for Everton obviously) so can it not be made simple once again....

Please!

Stan Schofield
332 Posted 17/01/2018 at 11:30:47
Andrew@306: A lot of what you say is true, because there's so much money in the game. That said, there's been a lot of money in the game for a long time, even when I was a kid back in the 60s. Not the millions they get now, for sure, but even back then a 1st Division player could get 10 times or more pay than the average man in the street. That would be about, say, £200k equivalent these days, nowhere near what they get now, but still a hell of a lot compared with most people. Plus, the top players could get 5% of a transfer fee. I remember them driving round in fancy cars, when nobody I knew had a car. That's when we lived in cardboard boxes, and we were lucky.

Anyway, there's an age thing here. Most youngsters don't care about the money players get, all they care about are their heroes on the field. My main hero was Alan Ball. Last season, the likes of Lukaku and Barkley were heroes to young Evertonians, although you wouldn't conclude that from many of the posts on ToffeeWeb, which are of course from an older demographic.

If someone like Walcott scores a lot of goals and plays well, he'll be a hero, regardless of his attitudes and lifestyle. If he doesn't, he won't. I think it's as simple as that.

Brian Furey
333 Posted 17/01/2018 at 11:55:19
When's the last time we signed a winger come striker who scored 18 goals last season in the Premier League. Actually who was the last player we signed from Arsenal? Was it Limpar?

The negativity on here reminds me of so many older people who just get into the habit of complaining all the time. I just wonder do they actually enjoy having something to whinge about.

This so called "slow window" we've brought in a decent looking striker who played well on Saturday despite feck-all support and now we're bringing in a top England international who needs a new lease of life.

Pace is one of the top things we are lacking in my eyes and look how much pace the RS have and how many goal chances they create just with pace. With Rooney, Sigurdsson etc all quite slow but now Walcott will add huge pace along with Bolasie and Lookman, Lennon and Vlasic. You could see on Saturday, Tosun was winning headers but there was nobody feeding off him.

It takes time to build a new team and get them to play as you wish. We've basically a whole new team now from Bobby Brown Shoes' team. Of course that will mean a downturn in results for a while.

I think Walcott could really flourish being a big fish in a small pond with us the same way it benefited Rom. I bet you he will be first choice in the England team come the World Cup.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

334 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:04:51
Andrew @ 306.

A very funny read.

Still not sure if is meant as a Ron Manager 'Jumpers for goal posts' parody, or penned as a sincere serious comment about the modern game.

Maybe a hybrid of both..?

Stan Schofield
335 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:05:39
Phil@305: Spot on. A good defence is always essential, but there's also an old saying, 'the best form of defence is attack'. Last season, Koeman sorted out the defence to some extent, and then kept going on about the need to 'press' from the front. This season, 'pressing from the front' seems to be getting less air time.

If we have a better attack, with fast mobile ball players, it takes the pressure off the defence. It allows the midfield to operate further forward, because they're not needing to cover the defence so much. You still need a good defence, but at least taking the pressure off eases things, or it should do. Having players like Lookman, Vlasic, Bolasie and Walcott should enable this to happen.

Often the complaint last season was that the forward players weren't mobile enough, and the midfield too deep. This season, the midfield is still too deep, but the forward players have been more mobile, but still not effective enough. If you have more effective mobile forward players, it can solve a number of problems.

After all, the object of the game is to score more goals than the opponent.

Brian Williams
336 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:07:04
Brian. Some good points there as well as a good name of course.

With regard to the moaning, I fully agree. This place has got worse and worse for moaning, negativity and abuse to other TWers It's as though people have lost their sense of humour and just can't wait to have a go at others after slating the club, the manger, and the players.

There are a few of us left that try to lighten the mood now and again but I really have noticed a huge deterioration in people's ability to laugh and see the funny side of some things.

Andrew Ellams
337 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:24:28
Brian Furey, last player from Arsenal – Richard Wright? Before that – Stephen Hughes? You can be excused for forgetting both of them.
Phil Lewis
338 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:31:58
Walcott has always impressed me. An intelligent player, fast, with an eye for goal. His injury history is a worry, so in that sense he represents a gamble. But for that, I imagine his price tag would be a lot higher.

His talent and ability for me is not in doubt. I'm excited by the prospect of an injury free, fit, Theo. His signing will be a massive leap in the right direction, for a manager who has a long way to go, before convincing me that he is the right man to create an attractive successful team.

David Israel
339 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:52:54
Colin #309, that is exactly why a few have turned us down, including a load of left-backs! They read us non-stop, from the moment they get up, into the small hours.
James Marshall
340 Posted 17/01/2018 at 12:58:07
Phil – it's been posted a lot on this thread, but his perceived injury-prone status is a myth.

His injury record is fine – someone posted it in full higher up the thread.

He scored 1 goal in 4 for Arsenal, mostly from the wing – that's a great record, and I think he'll be a really good player for us.

John Raftery
341 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:03:17
At a time when Dwight Gayle is being quoted at £15m Walcott must be regarded as decent value at £20m. He will bring technique, goals and pace to a squad severely lacking those qualities. The main doubt concerns his level of fitness. He had a cruciate knee injury in 2014, has played only 16 matches this season and may need to be a few weeks to reach full match fitness.

The fact we have allowed Sam to spend £46m in this window suggests to me the club see him as being here beyond May. Cue a heap of moaning on this site.

Derek Knox
342 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:16:40
John @342, When you make a comparison like that, to Dwight Gayle; yes it does seem a bargain; even moreso if they manage to generate from outgoing sales.

The thing is; as was the case against Spurs at the weekend; I felt a bit for Tosun, making his debut, as he hardly ever got a ball fed to him; but must add, when he did he looked to be okay; the same will be the case with Theo, they have got to be supplied.

If we are spending freely, as seems the case; a Left Back is essential, but furthermore, we need a midfield general; Schneiderlin, has to be the biggest waste of money (alongside Klaassen) to date; he does nothing to link attack, is too slow and negative.

I just hope we get a win against West Brom for starters; then make a few more signings, balanced with outgoings before the window slams shut.

Danny Broderick
343 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:30:42
If we had bought Walcott in the summer after he had scored 18 goals last season, I imagine he would have cost a lot more. I think we are getting a bit of a bargain here. He didn't even play all the games last season for Arsenal, and he still scored all those goals.

This will give us some vital pace and goal threat. Now for a decent left-back, even on loan if need be.

Michael Lynch
344 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:34:13
Walcott, at 28, is an incredible signing for us if it happens. A top class player, at his peak, who has fallen down the pecking order in a team that can choose from the likes of Sanchez and Ozil, while benching Giroud who it seems we were desperate to buy in August.

Christ, I don't know what would satisfy some people on here. We're absolute shite at the moment, more likely to be relegated than pushing for top 6, so we should be on our knees begging the likes of Theo to get his skinny arse down here. He must be the closest we could get to signing a world-class player at the moment, and for just £20m.

I'm warming to the idea of signing a garden chair at left back too. As long as it's a proven garden chair with strong legs and maybe some wheels to get down the line quickly and put some crosses in.

Ian Edwards
345 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:34:57
Eric Paul (#260),

Feel free to join the Martina Scapegoating. Yes..he's not the best Defender in the world but he's certainly not been the worst Everton Player recently.

Kenny is at fault for about 6 goals and Martina possibly 1 at Spurs.

The anti Martina bandwagon is really unpleasant and does our fan base no favours. Tim Howard received the same.

Robert Workman
346 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:35:35
According to BBC Sport, quoting BBC Merseyside Sport, Walcott has "agreed medical terms"!
Oliver Molloy
347 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:35:43
John @ 342

If you think Tosun and Wallcott are Allardyce signings and that Sam will be at Everton beyond the end of this season, you may be going crazy.

Sam Allardyce is a temporary measure due to the incompetence of Moshiri and Kenwright.

Tony Hill
348 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:41:53
Ian, (#346), I agree with you about the endless criticism of Martina. He is doing his very best for the club, filling in a role for which he is unsuited and has made no public comment about any of it. I also agree that he has done better defensively than is generally admitted.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

349 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:57:14
I'll add my voice of support in Martina.

He has had some poor games. He has had some poor moments in games. But overall, he has not come close to being 'the worst full back in my x years of watching Everton' some are claiming. He has also had some good games and some very good moments.

Martina is not to blame that, due to injuries, a negligent transfer policy and a brainless loaning out of a number of left-sided defenders, he is the 'last man standing' at the club who can fill in at left-back.

Those particular bucks should stop with any number of suspects, either departed or still at the club.

Jonjoe Kenny is also starting to get some stick, but the situation with Kenny is similar to that of Martina; there are no other options currently available.

Sam Allardyce himself made this very point in interview just last week: we have no cover for either full-back position, other than sticking one of the centre-backs there or 'hiding' the problem and playing 3 centre-backs and pushing the full-backs further up the pitch as wing-backs, as has already happened on occasion this season.

The only other current alternative I see available is to have Kenny and Martina switch flanks, but the enduring problem remains: at least on one of our full-back flanks, we currently have no 'specialist' to fill the role.

John Raftery
350 Posted 17/01/2018 at 13:58:27
Oliver (348),

Don't worry – I went crazy a long, long time ago. That's what following Everton every game home and away does to you. I know many sane and sensible supporters who think Sam will be on his way with his bundle of cash at the end of the season. I am just not so certain.

Sam is a safe bet to keep us in the Premier League. The Board may see that as a better option than risking the appointment of another foreign coach so soon after the mess created by Koeman.

David Hallwood
351 Posted 17/01/2018 at 14:08:24
Tony & Ian (#346 & #349) – I don't think anyone's scapegoating Martina because everyone knows he's out of position and has stuck to his guns manfully. It's how this situation was allowed to arise that I and presumably the rest find aweinspiringly inept.

WTF is Steve Walsh doing or rather what has he been doing since the season started-playing poker? Going round the world on ‘scouting' missions? I can honesty say that in the 55 years I've been watching football, I've never seen incompetence on this scale-and that's saying something because we are talking about Everton.

I can't even enjoy the Walcott deal because all that's going round my head is a Tibetan chant “left-back left-back left-back left-back”

BTW, Brian Williams (#327), I watched some YouTube clips of Gardeno Chairo – can't say I was that impressed. I prefer the player that took his place, Mesa e Guarda-Sol. Better allrounder

Mike Rothwell
352 Posted 17/01/2018 at 14:13:00
I know theres been a good deal of Banter about the Hillbillies frequenting the "Southampton car dealership", but we now seem to be picking up 2nd hand motors originally from same outlet with one previous' lady driver'. Has Steve Walsh bookmarked their page on Autotrader?

Alright, Stekelenburg was only a hire car at SAFC, Martina a showroom demonstrator (sold as seen) but I do hope Mr Walcott's engine gets a good thrashing when he signs on the dotted – unlike Morgan who still seems yet to have gone above 3000 revs.

Terence Tyler
353 Posted 17/01/2018 at 14:17:31
Hitch?
Mike Rothwell
354 Posted 17/01/2018 at 14:23:13
@Terence 354 – he's probably failed one of the RAC 307-point used car inspection checks?
Steve Bird
355 Posted 17/01/2018 at 14:23:24
Martina is an easy target; these days, there are so-called high earning professionals who would refuse to play out of position. He has always turned up.

As for the negligence of people responsible for squad formation incorporating adequate positional cover – they need never turn up again!!!

Michael Lynch
356 Posted 17/01/2018 at 14:31:21
Oliver @348

Tosun said Sam was a big reason he came to Goodison, and I've read that Theo is saying the same.

It might be bollocks of course, but if it's true then you can't really say they're not his men.

The fat fella has done well to get those two, now let's get that garden chair sorted.

Dave Pritchard
357 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:02:21
Michael, it is not necessarily bollocks but let's be honest, you don't sign for a club and then say you don't rate the manager of the club you've just agreed to join.
Paul Kossoff
358 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:06:28
Theo Walcott has passed his medical and agreed personal terms ahead of his £25million move from Arsenal to Everton.

The 28-year-old underwent a medical at the Toffees' Finch Farm training ground on Tuesday afternoon and is set to be unveiled as an Everton player later today.

He is expected to cost Everton an initial £20m with a further £5m subject to add-ons and will become manager Sam Allardyce's second signing of the January transfer window after the arrival of Cenk Tosun from Besiktas for a reported £27m.

Walcott has been Arsenal's longest-serving player, having joined the club as a 16-year-old in January 2006, and is one of only 19 men to have scored over 100 goals for the Gunners.

Evening Standard news... Apparently.

James Marshall
359 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:11:00
Martina in isolation is not our problem - it's a collective issue. Against Spurs he was wide open against Aurier because Sigurdsson was constantly dragged inside. Why? Because it's his natural inclination since he's a central midfielder.

Play the right players in the right positions – it's beyond me that manager after manager fails to do this. I know Martina is filling in at left-back but Sigurdsson is not a wide player. Why it's only us that see this I have no idea.

Anyway, where the hell is Walcott??

Shane Corcoran
360 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:14:20
Michael (#345), you think that Walcott is a top-class player? Really?

Anyway, it's about 22.5 hours since Colin Glassar told us that he'd signed. How long before the "typical fucking Everton" posts start?

Michael Lynch
361 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:20:05
Shane,

Yes, he's a top class player. And compared to the rest of our squad, he's a world class player. It's definitely a step down for him, so let's hope he gives it everything and doesn't just go through the motions.

James Marshall
362 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:20:59
I think he's the top(est) class player we can hope to sign at a club like Everton.

It's either him or unknowns from the lower leagues or Turkey.

At least everyone has heard of Walcott!

Brian Williams
363 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:25:45
Shane, the deals 99.99% done.
Shane Corcoran
364 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:27:28
Brian, I sense a third decimal place is coming.
Anthony Flack
365 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:35:49
Maybe he is close to Mrs Giroud, and she has said – oh no, not again...
Ian Burns
366 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:36:21
Shane 365 – hopefully to 9.99%.

Not for me this one.

Jamie Evans
367 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:40:03
Oliver (#348), I really, really, really hope you're right.

I really do.

Andrew Presly
368 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:41:18
At least we’ve got the Tosun press conference done. 1 week after he’s signed.

Brian Williams
369 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:42:17
Could end up recurring ad infinitum the way it's going, Shane.
Craig Walker
370 Posted 17/01/2018 at 15:43:42
I'm going to tell my 7-year-old lad to try hard at school and keep practising his football because when he's older he might be lucky enough to be the next Steve Walsh.

I'll tempt him with the benefits of a lucrative £5m a year salary, the chance to watch Everton week-in week-out home and away, plus the numerous foreign trips at the club's expense. Knowledge of the lower leagues or overseas players is a bonus.

The only crucial skill required is the ability to shuffle your Match Attax cards from last year and then throw them. The nearest ones to the wall are your transfer targets: "Let's try. Rooney, Martina, Pickford, Sigurdsson, Keane, Giroud, Walcott then."

Nice work if you can get it.

William Cartwright
371 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:02:55
Steve Bird (356)

Good comments, Steve.

I am no fan of Cuco Martina, but he has certainly 'turned up' for every game he has played in, often out of position and done so against a biased backdrop of negative support because he was brought in by Koeman under common 'manager's favorite'' inauspicious circumstances.

I thought his turning away from the Spur's full back's cross was unacceptable to say the least, and not the first time he has performed below requirements, but he is a genuine footballer and probably a sincere human being.

Is he suitable for EVerton? I don't think so... but that is not really his fault. I'm not good enough but I would play when and wherever if asked, and for nothing too!

He should be let go with good grace and we move on; ideally with a good proper left back in place.

Colin Glassar
372 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:04:03
Shane (#361), I stand by my statement. Theo has signed but it was too late for it to be announced by Jim White so it'll be on the 6pm Sky Sports News tonight.
David Barks
373 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:08:13
The delay is down to Theo’s signature. Hidden camera captures it.

Link

Phil Lewis
374 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:15:27
I feel truly sorry for Martina. The man does not lack for effort,he gives his all. He is quite clearly a right footed player playing on the left flank. This gives him a huge disadvantage before he even kicks a ball. It is totally alien to his natural game. Some rare players can cope with such a situation but most do not.

Going back to the seventies, we signed an England international right back, a proven class act, in Keith Newton. He was asked to play left back for us, he flopped in that role and didn't look anything like the same player.

For one of the goals against Spurs, Martina received a deluge of criticism. While he rightly deserved partial responsibility, when I saw that goal on TV, my first reaction was, 'What the hell was Sigurdsson doing, why wasn't he backtracking, covering for his full back?' Am I the only person to notice that, or is everyone more obsessed with hammering Martina?

Let's remember, the man was brought to the club as a stop gap, no more than a temporary replacement. I think it is grossly unfair to make him the number one scapegoat for our present woes.

Terence Tyler
375 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:27:53
Three-and-a-half-year deal, £140k per week. Number 11 shirt.
Jamie Crowley
376 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:28:35
How many goals does Theo score?

I might be wrong, but I feel like we are signing a higher profile Aaron Lennon.

We need goals not sure an overpriced Theo is the answer.

Steve Bell
377 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:29:43
Confirmed on BBC Sport.
Colin Glassar
378 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:29:46
Now it's official Shane. Jim White won't be happy now he's been sent to Coventry.
Gerry Quinn
379 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:36:41
Confirmed in most newspapers, Sky and BBC – but fuck-all on the Official Site – what is it about Everton?
Thomas Surgenor
380 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:54:48
Walcott in.

Walsh out... next out to be Davies to WHU??

What is going on???

Oliver Molloy
381 Posted 17/01/2018 at 16:56:22
Michael @ 358,

I would say it's bollocks, both are hardly going to say anything negative about our present manager are they now .

Reports from Turkey are that Tuson's family haven't stopped shopping and partying since he signed on the dotted line – "rich beyond our wildest dreams".

Amazing what people will say if you give them £100+ grand a week (tongue-in-cheek of course) but you get my drift.

It's all about the money as we know, it's why Allardyce is here!

John Raftery
382 Posted 17/01/2018 at 17:00:33
Gerry (#380), They are still trying to get him to smile for a photo.
David Ellis
383 Posted 17/01/2018 at 17:01:12
He will improve the first team. So I am in favour. However we have more fundamental problems and signing new players is only a small part of the answer (even a left-back).

The team needs to click. We do have a very talented squad, comfortably the 7th best in the league – they just aren't playing very well. I think Allardyce can fix this and we can finish 7 again

Shane Corcoran
384 Posted 17/01/2018 at 17:04:14
Deal's off. He wanted the director's cut (Bill's) of the welcome video.
Gerry Quinn
385 Posted 17/01/2018 at 17:10:07
Hi John, 383, Happy New Year to you and yours... they would have an even more difficult job getting me to smile after this season's shit performances!
Rudi Coote
386 Posted 17/01/2018 at 17:30:44
@375. I think you mean Henry Newton... we signed from Nottm Forest. Keith Newton did okay for us and England.
Martin Nicholls
387 Posted 17/01/2018 at 17:42:59
The optimist in me hopes that having learned from the summer fiasco, EFC wanted Theo in BEFORE swapping Oumar for Van Aanholt!
John Raftery
388 Posted 17/01/2018 at 18:52:06
Cheers Gerry, and to you and Cathy as well.

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