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Kalinic rejects Everton for Milan

| Monday, 14 August 2017  74 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton's reported hopes of bringing Nikola Kalinic back to the Premier League have been dashed if a report from Italy is correct.

The striker had an unsuccessful spell at Blackburn Rovers earlier in his career but has had a more profitable time of it with Fiorentina and has been a rumoured target of the Blues this summer.

Corriere della Sera are claiming that Kalinic will spurn Everton's advances now that AC Milan have shown a serious interest in signing him.



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Gaute Lie
1 Posted 14/08/2017 at 15:38:38
This one we can do without.
James Stewart
2 Posted 14/08/2017 at 15:50:47
We can do better.
Tony Graham
3 Posted 14/08/2017 at 15:59:43
Such as, who,s out there.. that can replace Lukaku?
Tony Twist
4 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:17:34
That's why Walsh gets paid the big bucks, well him and his ever increasing posse of scouts who aren't doing their jobs and finding two centre forwards who may be the next Lukaku but hopefully with better control of the ball and who want to win things with us.

The silence from the club regarding a new centre forward is deafening. A centre-forwards is the priority signing for us, if we hope to ever get to challenging the top six clubs.

Paul Ferry
5 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:33:52
I am right in. thinking that taking into account buying and selling we have spent less than Huddersfield and Brighton?

Don't get me wrong I'm neither naturally pessimistic or lacking faith right now.

But as pleased as I was with three points in a match that is always a struggle I saw things that concerned me that cannot be sorted out with. the old 'it will take four games for things to settle' line.

Watching Man Utd yesterday with just Matic sitting in ahead of the defence simply reminded me – yet again – of how having two holding midfielders stifles width and pace. Our midfielders trip over each other. The width issue is a serious one. And we cannot play three at the back however much the gaffer wants to. We do not have to players to do this. Some say that we looked better when Martina came on; I think we looked better when Williams went off. I believe in Calvert-Lewin but we cry out for a proven striker at the highest levels.

This means that we need to spend more than erm Huddersfield and Brighton. We need width. We need a striker. How many of us have been saying this for how long?

We need to play 4-2-3-1 with what we have:

Pickford

Kenny
Keane
Jagielka
Baines

Gueye
Davies/Klaassen

Lookman
Rooney
Sandro

Calvert-Lewin

Clive Rogers
6 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:34:52
Tony (#4), you can't expect the club to be spouting about who they would like to sign and for how much.

Koeman has made it quite clear he wants a striker from this window. But he probably won't be like Lukaku. I don't think there is anyone like that out there. Dolberg for me.

Fran Mitchell
7 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:37:01
Tony. You are saying they aint doing their Jobs in signing a striker as good as Lukaku, but with better Control and work rate. ??? Maybe because such a player doesn't exist, hence the huge value of any striker who scorss 20+ a season.

Also, we signed 3 strikers, Sandro, Rooney and Henry. We need 1 more, yes, but to say we havent, nor the scouts, done anything is wrong.

Before this Summer, noone here knew either Sandro or Henry, só yes, It seems the scouts have done their Jobs

John Hammond
8 Posted 14/08/2017 at 16:46:33
Personally I don't think we'll sign a forward until after the second leg of the Split game. We surely must have a player or players in mind but it may come down to whether we qualify as to who we go for. Obviously if we qualify then we can tempt a higher calibre of player. Just a thought as I can't see any other reason for not signing another striker ages ago what with it being 99.9% certain Lukaku would be off.
Neil Thomas
9 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:05:21
What a relief he was shit for Blackburn. It's not just about how much we spend but about the right player to fit RKs plans and as none of us are PL coaches we wouldn't know who it will be
Tony Everan
10 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:08:40
Agent alert ! Using us to bump up his paypacket
Don Alexander
11 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:11:40
None of us know what Koeman's seeking but "a big unit" of a CF would seem the best option to most of us. Someone who puts himself about a bit, physically competes against centre-backs and scores every now and then would perhaps do for now.

The lad Steve Mounie (23, 6'3", and a physique to match) now playing for Huddersfield at a cost of £12mill looked like that on MOTD. Even Shearer pointed out that he scored 14 in 35 for bog-standard Montpelier last season despite them slipping from 12th to 15th in their league.

Still, it was only one match, and I'm sure Mr Moshiri (if not Koeman) are aiming way higher than him or Kalinic. Hmmm.

Neil Thomas
12 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:28:21
Pretty sure your right Don all we can do is keep guessing and reading the tabloid shit
Gordon White
13 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:45:58
Bullet dodged. If indeed there was any truth in it to start with.
John Robinson
14 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:57:43
Is that all there is out there? Its a big world.
Steve Durham
15 Posted 14/08/2017 at 18:30:43
It's gonna be Benteke, isn't it. I wouldn't be too upset.
David Currie
16 Posted 14/08/2017 at 18:38:29
Thank God.
Grant Rorrison
17 Posted 14/08/2017 at 18:42:54
Gutted.
David Cooling
18 Posted 14/08/2017 at 18:44:17
I'll be pleased if we miss this one, his record at Blackburn was poor. I've seen Danny Welbeck linked, not a prolific goal scorer, but would do a decent job in my opinion. We desperately need some more pace up top as well, I'd prefer mahrez to sigurdsson gives you something different.
Jon Saward
19 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:00:26
Not sure if Kalinin is any good or if he'll come to us. Don't think Welbeck is what Koeman's after - he wants a hold up bean pole. I think he'd go after Crouch if he was 5 years younger.

Re Dolberg: I'm sure Ajax or the player or the agent or my Mum said that he won't be sold til next summer - wants another year under his belt before he thinks he'll be ready. If we want him it means going without a striker for a year.

Paul Ellam
20 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:05:26
Phew! So glad when he signs for Milan.
Teodorczyk from Anderlecht for me or Bas Dost from Sporting.
Mike Berry
21 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:08:43
I still think Chris Woods from Leeds could do a real job for us as a target man.
He is a beast and bullies tough defenders, only 25 and he is no big stiff, scores a a lot of good goals, a confident penalty taker and places them well.
He will cause mayhem and provide spin off chances. Someone will take a punt and if not use then we may say why we did not take it.
Colin Glassar
22 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:18:07
I'd rather have a 7ft wooden stick standing on the half way line, with a wig on, than this lump. More effective. Let's get Wellbeck!!
Gavin Johnson
23 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:35:09
Glad he doesn't want to come. He's bang average and reminds me of the other striker we were continually linked with some seasons back, Nikola Zigic. Another target man who was very overrated. The Premier league club who eventually took a punt, Birmingham City, must regret signing the big lump to this day.

Just sign Dembele, now!!

Bobby Mallon
24 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:35:35
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/34323/Show/Bas-Dost This is who we should sign great player perfect for us
Gary Edwards
25 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:37:31
Tony (#4) . totally agree mate, besides how difficult can it be ? buy every 17 y/o, pro footballer with the surname "Dembele" odds are one will be top notch.

I thought Dzeko was a good shout. Josh King would be ideal.

Mike Corcoran
26 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:54:31
How about bringing Fellaini back to play as target man?

Tin hat donned, I'm under fire!

Anthony Flack
27 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:13:10
How about Deeney – I quite like the idea, strong, works hard and a decent record. I am sure I will get battered for this! But give it a moment?

Gordon Crawford
28 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:34:08
Costa!!!!
Peter Laing
29 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:36:20
Lads we are seriously scraping the barrel with some of the names mentioned, Deeney and an uproven championship player – strewth!! Walsh and the board have had more than 6 months to work out the conundrum and impact of Lukaku leaving and all that we have been fed with is the Plan B approach of sharing the goals out.

There is another thread running asking the question if Everton are still a Club that needs to sell to buy – the jury on the evidence to date is clearly well and truly still out on that particular question. If we fail to sign an adequate replacement for Lukaku then personally I will view this whole episode as a complete dereliction of duty.

The clock is ticking and the options becoming thinner and thinner hence this link, albeit to a sub standard player in the shape of Kalinic. Walsh needs to pull his finger out of his arse and deliver.

Soren Moyer
30 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:40:18
Bullet dodged! Next!
Colin Glassar
31 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:15:53
Costa on loan until January would be a good deal. He'd stay fit, get us a few goals then could go to athletic Madrid once their embargo is over.
Len Hawkins
32 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:19:32
If it was left to me, an Everton Sperm bank would have been set up – just imagine Bob Latchford's swimmers in that Dutch sprinter, Dafne Schippers... in 20 years time, a big beast of a centre-forward with pace to burn and goals from both feet and the noggin.
Don Alexander
33 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:22:00
Fair comment Len, we have had some proper wankers haven't we?
Nicholas Ryan
34 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:34:12
[29] Yes, Len but a big, bearded centre-forward, called Daphney?!
Sam Hoare
35 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:46:58
Dembele or Dolberg would be interesting.

Bacca, Welbeck or Rondon would be less risky but with less upside potentially. Max Kruse or Bas Dost would do a decent job I think.

Don't think Costa wants to stay in Premier League much.

I think we missed a trick with Iheanacho.

Drew O'Neall
36 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:55:28
If you like playing Football Manager and haven't already done so, check out the lad we've been linked with; Duvan Zapata's highlights reel https://youtu.be/pt8M9_3Rw9g

If you ask me (and you didn't), he is exactly the type of large, fast, powerful centre-forward Everton needs and deserves – he's a monster!

Tom Bowers
37 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:58:12
Peter Laing is so right. So long to get a Lukaku replacement?

Okay Rooney on a free will grab a goal or two and Sandro still to prove himself. Calvert-Lewin trying hard but surely it is evident the strike force is not yet good enough.

Man City on Monday and they have so many strikers even when Aguerro is not scoring so come on... Ron, put some heat on the board.

Rick Pattinson
38 Posted 14/08/2017 at 22:05:34
Dzeko over anyone else. Anyone agree?
Brian Wilkinson
39 Posted 14/08/2017 at 22:19:55
Dembele for me; offer James McCarthy in the deal before he plays for the Republic of Ireland again, leave it any later and more clubs will be chasing the player before the window shuts. Then offer Arsenal Barkley in a deal for Welbeck.
Peter Laing
40 Posted 14/08/2017 at 22:24:24
Tom, the worrying thing for me is that if we drop too many points in the opening 5-6 games then we will be playing catch up for the entire season. Stoke City restricted Everton to very few chances and Rooney pulled a rabbit out of the hat with his goal and all round performance.

Before the Man City game it is imperative that we get the Sigurdsson transfer completed and another striker recruited.

Fran Mitchell
41 Posted 14/08/2017 at 22:30:55
We would all like to have got the striker wrapped up by now, but I just hope the reason for the time wait is because we have a specific list of targets.

Look at West Ham: they have signed more strikers than Gene Simmons has had lady-friends, yet such a scatter gun approach has brought them very few goals, despite huge sums in money and wages being spent.

The Rom-detractors were warned, Lukaku will not be easily (maybe an impossible task) replaced and that is why so many (including me) wanted him to stay, and his fee will seem small in a year or two.

Henry and Sandro have been signed, so accusing the scouting network of neglecting the forward line is simply false. Both were unknown to 99.9% of us on here until the club had all but signed them, and both appear to have excellent potential and have been signed for relative buttons. Henry we will have to wait another year, but Sandro is an immediate improvement on Kone, who was our other forward player last season.

But the type of striker we need seems up for debate. I personally would like to see us go for fast, skillful striker in the Martial or Belotti mould. I think this would suit a fast, counter-attacking style and allow to a forward-3 of strikers inter-changing positions (Calvert-Lewin, Sandro, ???).

Having already targeted Giroud (but seemingly missing out), it seems Koeman is looking for more of a target man (makes sense given the relentless perusal of Sigurdsson). In a way, this is a safer (and possibly cheaper) option.

Bacca would certainly be an option that could satisfy both needs. Another, short-term, but cheaper option could be Lucas Barrios from Gremio, he would do a job. Or, we could show some real ambition and get Luan (also from gremio). Scores and creates, skillful, he would fit perfectly into a front three, and £25-30 million could well be enough.

Fran Mitchell
42 Posted 14/08/2017 at 22:37:06
Another from the Brazilian League i'd not mind seeing in an Everton shirt is Dudu from Palmeiras. Can play out wide, or down the middle. He can score, is aggressive and has that never-say-die attitude that us fans love.

He will get the occasional yellow or red for petulance, and may miss some chances he shouldn't, but he hs talent and aggression, and us Everton fans love a bit of that.

Another from Palmeiras would be Moisés (attacking/creative mid/no10). Returning from long-term injury, but has real quality and top work-rate. Good player.

Mike Gaynes
43 Posted 14/08/2017 at 22:54:04
Rick (#35), agree, but there's no way he'd come here.

Anthony (#24), a goal every 3.3 games for a Premier League striker is nowhere near a "decent record"... can't even hold a candle to King or Benteke.

Ian Bennett
44 Posted 14/08/2017 at 23:22:49
Carlos Bacca on loan or Dembele gamble at £20m for me.
Jay Wood
45 Posted 14/08/2017 at 23:44:41
I see you know your Brazilian footy, Fran.

Luan of Gremio is the best call on the players you've mentioned and is the right age – 24. He has been a key player for Gremio this season – 2nd in the league, semi-final of the Brazilian Cup, quarter-final of the Libertadores (South America's Champions League equivalent). Skilful, fast, hard-working, scores goals, sets them up and technically sound. Can play anywhere across the front, perhaps best as a second striker.

However, Spartak Moscow according to local reports have long been in negotiations with Gremio for his signature and are close to completing a deal.

Lucas Barrios also of Gremio I can't agree with you. An out and out striker, 33 in November, done the Euro club tour as many a South American has without shaking the tree. On his return to Brazil with last year's champions Palmeiras (Jesus Gabriel's club), he made only a handful of appearances over 2 seasons. He ain't gonna get any better in the PL.

Moises of Palmeiras I'd steer well clear of also. Already 29 and whilst a regular for the champions last season, his default position is midfield and we are hardly short there. He is not the playmaker we need, nor the right age.

Dudu also of Palmeiras is a tad more interesting. He has all the qualities you list, is only 25, but was shipped back to Brazil after 3 'meh' years at Dinamo Kiev.

I've written before, unless spotted and picked up early, there really isn't a lot of talent in the Brasileirao – Serie A.

The one player in the last 4-5 years I would have been happy to see Everton in for is the appropriately named Everton Ribeiro. He was the man playing an attacking midfielder role for Cruzeiro (the team I support in Brazil) when they surprisingly won 2 consecutive league titles in 2013 and 2014. Indeed, he was voted the league's Player of the Year in both seasons.

At the time there was serious interest in him from Man Utd and Milan, just 23-24 at the time. So it was a HUGE surprise when he ended up in Dubai for 3 years. A terrible waste, IMO.

Just recently returned to Brazil with Flamengo, he still looks a really good player. But now 28, I think his chances at playing in a major European league have gone.

If Walsh pulls a rabbit from the hat from the Brasileirao in this window, I'd be surprised but intrigued to know who it could be.

Shaun Wilson
46 Posted 15/08/2017 at 03:38:11
Drew (#34),

Are we really being linked with Zapata? If so, I couldn't agree with you more. He has the physicality to best the shit out of center halves, a great touch and coordination for a big lad and, from what I've seen of him, has that knack for being in the right place at the right time, just what we need.

I definitely could see him becoming a fan favorite at Goodison; hope the rumor is true!

Shaun Wilson
47 Posted 15/08/2017 at 03:40:16
Also, it might make that Italy trip make a bit more sense now. COYB
James Watts
48 Posted 15/08/2017 at 04:07:33
Didn't that Zapata rumour die quite a while ago? Haven't seen anything recently to suggest we're in for him? Maybe a sneaky one under the radar?
Alan J Thompson
49 Posted 15/08/2017 at 05:44:00
Given that it is barely three weeks until the window closes, any likely signings would have been well and truly recognized by now and any new names would be unlikely.

Stating the bleedin' obvious, we don't know who has been identified as a possibility or what approaches have been rejected.

Denver Daniels
50 Posted 15/08/2017 at 08:41:28
I'm pretty sure Bas Dost had a release clause of over £50m. We should have signed him before he left Wolfsburg for Sporting. That would be a huge gamble.

I'm still trying to figure out what Walsh was doing on his Italian jolly. Pasta making course?

Mark Robson
51 Posted 15/08/2017 at 09:34:03
Gordon @ 28 .
It's Cafe Nero for me
Ajay Gopal
52 Posted 15/08/2017 at 10:00:13
Christian Benteke for me -– his best spell was with Aston Villa. I think we play a similar system to Villa of those days, with better quality players. He will get us 20 goals minimum with Sigurdsson Rooney, Klaassen, Sandro, Calvert-Lewin in the side. He won't come for anything less than 40 million I suspect (given that he is only 26 years old), but that would be a 'safe', guaranteed return, signing.

Our goals spread in the PL:
Main CF: 20
Rooney: 15
Sandro, Mirallas, Lookman: 15 between them
Klaassen, Siggurdsson: 15 between them
Calvert-Lewin: 8
Gana, Davies, Schneiderlin, Besic: 4 between them
Defence (Baines, CBs, Coleman): 8 between them
Total: 85 goals (Top 6) - simple

Sam Hoare
53 Posted 15/08/2017 at 10:00:41
My worry is that there won't be another striker coming in. Or that it will be a rushed job a la Sissoko or Valencia and we'll end up with someone competent rather than progressive.

Surely a Lukaku replacement must have been high up the list of Walsh scouting agenda and i'm curious to know why we haven't already bought in a front line striker?

Perhaps we've missed out on targets. But if so then why? Not that the media can be trusted but it seems the only active target we've missed has been Giroud deciding to stay. I'm sure there must be more activity behind the scenes.

It seems from Koemans comments that he never thought Rooney, Sandro and DCL would be sufficient and rightly so. We moved so quickly to get Keane and Pickford (and to an extent Rooney and Sandro) and yet this vital position, a player I hope will be tasked with being our leading goalscorer, has not been filled; nor does it seem (from unreliable media sources admittedly) that it is yet close to being filled.

Strange striker stance.

Gordon White
54 Posted 15/08/2017 at 10:00:49
Len, Don and Nicholas. #32 - 34
LMAO. :-)
Phil Walling
55 Posted 15/08/2017 at 10:11:21
Spurs fans assure me we can be confident that Sissoko will join us whether or not Barkley goes the opposite way.

All is not lost!

Darren Murphy
56 Posted 15/08/2017 at 10:15:20
Don't believe that we were even interested in him, he's crap. We missed out on Iheanacho, Hernandez and maybe Dzeko, the latter would of been nice playing with Sandro the big man small quick man combo.

What about Jackson Martinez... £35 million release clause but he's with Guangzhou Evergrande in China. Think we need another centre-back and winger ASAP too.

Mark Andersson
57 Posted 15/08/2017 at 11:16:29
Is that a wind up Phil..
At this rate Big Dunc better dust off his boots..
Lee Brownlie
58 Posted 15/08/2017 at 11:35:11
Paul Ferry.. not sure on your spends analysis.. lets say you spend a hundred mill and you get in a hundred mill.. doesn't mean you didn't spend anything, only that you balanced your books.. still spent 100 mill, yeah? Come on, bit divvy, leastways distorting the facts, to say we've actually spent less than Huddersfield and Brighton!!
Brent Stephens
59 Posted 15/08/2017 at 11:40:35
Phil #55 "Spurs fans assure me we can be confident that Sissoku will join us whether or not Barks goes the opposite way".

We have to be careful which fans we listen to.

Brian Williams
60 Posted 15/08/2017 at 11:41:10
Lee#57.
Think you're being a bit pedantic there. 100 out, 100 in, net spend zero which is obviously what the guy meant.
Jim Jennings
61 Posted 15/08/2017 at 11:44:09
Brent #58

Correct. And one fan you should not listen to is Phil Walling, whose levels of attention seeking seem to know no bounds.

Ajay Gopal
62 Posted 15/08/2017 at 12:19:52
Phil (55) if we get 1 more central midfielder, I will seriously question Koeman's judgement.
Denis Richardson
63 Posted 15/08/2017 at 18:29:53
Haha - AC Milan or Everton bet that was a tough choice!

Still, he didn't pull up any trees at Blackburn so no major loss.

Denis Richardson
64 Posted 15/08/2017 at 18:34:01
That's actually a great shout Colin 31. Blimey, Costa for half a season would really set us up!

Would probably not get too much resistance from Chelsea, although there would be a long queue of other perm clubs who'd try to do the same. Chelsea would probably front a load of his wages to make the problem 'go away'.

Alan J Thompson
65 Posted 16/08/2017 at 16:34:10
Sorry, too much imagination, effort and chance needed to do a deal with Athletico and Chelsea to bring a probably unfit Costa to Goodison for half a season loan.
Craig Ashton
66 Posted 16/08/2017 at 17:05:03
Dzeko for me over Benteke. Big, strong target man, who can hold up the ball well and grab his fair share of goals. Plus, he has Premier League experience. The only downside is that he is 31.
Jay Wood
67 Posted 16/08/2017 at 17:23:20
To add to what Alan said @ 65, another reason Colin's and Derek's half season loan idea is a non-starter is because it is not on by FIFA's global rules.

YES! a player can be REGISTERED with THREE different clubs in the same year (1 July until 30 June of the following year), but is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs.

If Diego was a goer at all under Colin's and Derek's conditions, it would really have to be a season long, rather than 6 month loan, with the player going to AM next summer.

Denis Richardson
68 Posted 16/08/2017 at 17:32:55
Jay 66 - that kind of leaves a certain Mr Costa a bit buggered if he wants to go to athletico in Jan and refuses to play for Chelsea again.

(We'll take him on a season loan with chelsea paying his wages mind .)

John Smith
69 Posted 16/08/2017 at 21:20:18
"Before this Summer, no-one here knew either Sandro."

I've been watching him for at least three years, back when he was playing for Barca B and before he went to Malaga. I'm truly stoked we got him.

Colin Glassar
70 Posted 19/08/2017 at 17:37:24
I see Giroud is starting on the bench again today. I hope he's happy.
Nigel Munford
71 Posted 19/08/2017 at 22:02:49
I wouldn't be if I were him Colin.
Christopher Marston
72 Posted 22/08/2017 at 19:47:00
All gone quiet on the striker rumour front. I'm worried we're going to end up with Cameron Jerome.
Joe McMahon
73 Posted 22/08/2017 at 19:56:46
Colin/Nigel (70 & 71). He's happy to stay in London. Can't see him in grim North unless it's one of the 3 Sky/BBC darlings.
Adam Luszniak
74 Posted 25/08/2017 at 17:19:41
The net spend argument is a bit tired and totally over simplifies the situation. If we have a zero net spend but double our wage bill, can it still be said there has been no investment?

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