Deciding on the Ground Move

Brian Hughes 17/07/2007 8comments  |  Jump to last
We are obviously preparing to be balloted in the coming month on whether we wish to move etc. I have monitored the situation carefully, and have hopefully weighed up as best I can the pros and cons of the entire issue. There will be masses of further info in the press over the coming weeks.

My main concern is the future of the club, and its ability to Stabilise and improve our financial position, possibly obtain the type of investment now being put into other premiership clubs, and thus attract players, more supporters and some success as a result. I strongly feel that we remain in the top 6 clubs in the country and we should exploit that position as much as possible, which sometimes I do not think we do effectively as a club. Indeed as football's gulfs grow bigger, now is an essential and vital time to be exploiting any popularity we have.

I am aware and indeed appreciate the great historic ties to Goodison Park and the City, I fully respect EVERY Evertonians opinion, but I have not seen a valid or viable argument against the move, when emotives are put to one side and progression and the future is seriously considered. History is, by its very nature, our past. It can never be erased, and should and will always be cherished. That said, we cannot afford to languish in our history as on occasion, that is the very attitude that will stunt progression. Financially the move to Kirkby seems to be a gift-horse that will put us on greater foundations for the future of the club.

We obtain a new state-of-the-art stadium, with great corporate and matchday facilities, for next to nothing. I also do not think it?s a bad thing to be closely associated with Tesco, arguable the biggest growing Supermarket entity in the World at present after Walmart.

I see the alternatives as none starters. To re-develop Goodison would cost big time, and whatever estimates may be given now, they are seriously undervalued and would spiral as every other re-build has done. There would be no investment for this option and the club would have to fund it. It would in any event still look like a poor relative to what Liverpool will build 100 yards away, which I think would have a negative effect on both our own supporters and visiting fans ("poor relative" syndrome again).

Sites within the City appear to have been limited to the old Taskers Site, without any assurance that Tesco or any other investor would assist with costs. Liverpool City Council may well give us it for free or reduced, as Kirkby, on arguably a much better site in terms of access and envisaged facility.

In making my decision, I will be thinking very much about my children, grandchildren etc. I would not want to leave them with a massive mortgage for the next 50+ years if we go it alone, for the sake of high emotions to stay at Goodison or in the City. I would much rather take the gift-horse, and put our money on the pitch right here and now, and play our games in a new state-of-the-art stadium in the Greater Merseyside area (like Man Utd, not in the city of Manchester).

When decisions such as this have to be made, the "Noise" that we hear is usually from the minority who feel very strongly about this issue. From the various forums, it is obvious that there is strong feeling against the move, whilst there is some arguing for it. These views I feel will be from the minority, and I think that the majority 33,000 that ballot next month with at least show a significant split in opinion. I think that this factor is all that will be required by our Bill, the Board and Kieth to propose that the club go ahead with the move.

He is already quoted as saying that the decision is ultimately with the Board, and I think that with the best will in the world the custodians have nothing to gain by placing the club in jeopardy and will make their decision based on hopefully lateral thinking and the successful future of Everton FC. I feel we must trust them on this issue, as not to suggests they are criminally negligent in the handling of our club!

I URGE THE BLUE BRETHREN TO THINK WITH THEIR HEADS AND NOT WITH THEIR HEARTS ON THIS OCCASION.

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Tim Veitch
1   Posted 17/07/2007 at 12:10:46

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I'm not sure what to make of the Kirkby issue, but one thing I do know... there is more to being an Evertonian than the ground we play in.

Whilst I do strongly believe in preserving the history and culture of the club ? of which Goodison is a major part ? I disagree with those suggesting that we'll lose a major part of our supporter base.

I'm not saying I believe in the move (I don't know enough of the facts to make a proper judgement). I just can't see real Evertonians deserting the club. Afterall, if Cahill, Arteta and Co are still running round in a blue jersey, I'll still be supporting them!

Andy Callan
2   Posted 17/07/2007 at 13:44:43

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I can't believe that people are whinging about the new stadium and then about not having any players this season in the same sentence. Isn't the fact that we can't complete financially with the other clubs around us, the fact that we ain't got any money - 'yes' is the answer.

Wyness reckons that the new stadium will bring £10M extra in to the club; Wyness might be over inflating his estimate but wouldn't an extra £10M put us in a better position to which we are in now FFS? Goodison is old and shite now; the transport links are shite; parking is shite; facilities are shite; income generated is shite - the 'exec' boxes are shite; the views are shite; the tent out the back of the Park End is shite. The hard truth of the matter is that Goodison is SHITE as a building / arena now. The only thing that is there anymore is history. Ancient history. Some wonderful memories yes, but that is all they are now... MEMORIES.

Time to move on; and no matter what others think the move can only be good for Everton. If for nothing else the extra income this will generate will benefit what happens on the park.

The Shareholders / Directors have already made their minds up, thank fuck. No matter what we say we are moving. GET USED TO IT.

Andy Callan
3   Posted 17/07/2007 at 14:00:35

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We have no money - fact. The problem is that we have a SHITE stadium with even worse facilities. Even the likes of Bolton and Wigan?s grounds look a better proposition to invest in from the second you drive up. It is all about first impressions and Goodison has fuck all of that. These rich people from fuck-knows-where don?t care about Dixie Dean, Alan Ball, Kevin Sheedy etc - they are looking to the future. Something Everton FC does not have with Goodison as a selling point. The move seems logical to me....
Dick Fearon
4   Posted 17/07/2007 at 13:50:27

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It's a bit like that TV series where a bloke is transported back to the war years. Ah, the sweet nostalgia of it all and wouldn't it be great if we too could could go back to the good old days. Er, hang on a minit... isn't that what we actually do every time we go to Goodison?

The locality and the ground has barely changed, a bit more decrepit maybe but so what. The decor of pubs in the area have barely changed since the Blitz with service and Beer the same old rubbish. Do the local shopkeepers realise that the war ended 60 years ago. Blackout warnings no longer apply and Its Ok to switch on a few extra lights. On my last trip home was I only imagining that the smells are even more pungent than they were. Speaking personally, you can take the good old days and stick em up your arse.

I probably will not be around whenever or wherever our new stadium is built but one thing for sure is its time to let the old lady go to where she has been heading for the past 30 or so years.

Bernard Manning
5   Posted 17/07/2007 at 17:12:07

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The window cleaner around Goodison and County road does his round with an electric sander. I once went into the Goodison Supper bar and got a good battering, wake up and smell the Coffee the place is in a state of terminal decline and if you think corporate facilities are that tent in the carpark get real. Kirkby or bust I’m afraid.
Brian Waring
6   Posted 17/07/2007 at 18:37:08

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There is one line that keeps popping up: ?a new state-of-the-art stadium?, Now, don?t get me wrong, but I thought to have a state-of-the-art stadium, it would cost mega bucks. So why is the Kirkby project being quoted at £75M? To me that doesn?t sound much for a state-of-the-art stadium. I just hope for our sakes that, if it does go ahead, we don?t end up playing in something on par with Bolton.
Craig Stanley
7   Posted 17/07/2007 at 19:15:05

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I agree gGoodison is past its sell buy date, a new stadium is what we need, so lets get behind it whereever it is,and i would just like to say to the fellow everton fans yes you might have to travel a bit further but i travel from doncaster so an extra 10 mins shouldnt hurt you, and i went to bury on saturday what great fans weve got they deserve this new stadium, come on the blues the futures bright.
Jacqui Harris
8   Posted 18/07/2007 at 18:05:56

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I would just ask one question to all you pro Bullshit Billy/Bully fans.
If you had $50m to invest would you trust these LIARS to look after it for you.
Nothing is free in life>beware of Greeks bearing FREE gifts. Deal of the century my arse.


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