I notice that Liverpool have now banned reporters from The Sun from their stadium and training ground.
A somewhat belated move but one that I strongly feel we should copy to show unswerving solidarity.
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1 Posted 10/02/2017 at 15:54:57
2 Posted 10/02/2017 at 16:12:56
Every Premier League club should follow Liverpool FC's action against The Sun, clean the lying shit-raking bastards out.
3 Posted 10/02/2017 at 16:40:14
4 Posted 10/02/2017 at 16:54:29
I've never purchased that newspaper or even read it for many many years for a variety of reasons and particularly their reporting about that fateful day in 1989.
Both clubs are more than happy to take the money from Sky which is strongly associated with Rupert Murdoch and his family, the clubs would have made more of a point by refusing entry to the Sky cameras or refusing to take the money off him and his company.
The fans are free to make their own decisions on this matter and I fully support their stance but Everton FC shouldn't be castigated if they choose not to ban The Sun.
5 Posted 10/02/2017 at 17:01:27
6 Posted 10/02/2017 at 17:23:03
However, I would be happier if all the ex-players from their club who work for Sky refused the Murdoch shilling.
7 Posted 10/02/2017 at 17:30:40
As Patrick says, but they still take Murdoch's Sky money now if they refused to take this, then I would say this is a club that puts principles before money but they won't.
I have to say well done to Colin Murray who had a show on TalkSport but, when The Sun took over the station, he quit for that reason.
8 Posted 10/02/2017 at 17:51:50
Scousers pissing on the dead yeah that was fucking real reporting...
9 Posted 10/02/2017 at 18:49:44
Actually this is so belated, to my mind it is a ridiculous show of mock 'solidarity' from LFC. It would have meant something 28 years ago... but for the RedShite to take this step now, after numerous grovelling apologies have been utterly rejected, has the feeling of an Italian "dead to me" vendetta that will never be forgotten.
Of course, that's the whole point... but the fact that none of the journalist scum responsible actually work there anymore or were ever taken to task makes it a rather hollow gesture, methinks.
10 Posted 10/02/2017 at 19:03:44
I can imagine the Custiss brothers being outraged and going after the RS with both barrels.
Anyone seen poor Johnny Heitinga's interview? The poor bugger can no longer afford private jets and luxury villas. I think we should give him a testimonial.
11 Posted 10/02/2017 at 19:18:31
1. Ban The Sun for Hillsborough coverage. Well to me this seems too little way too late now. Everybody agrees on the disgraceful coverage but I have some doubts about motives now and the danger of remembering a dreadful paper rather than the victims.
2 Ban the Sun because of being a tacky tabloid, as Colin seems to suggest? My heart says do it tomorrow but also explain to Liverpool fans why you have banned The Star, The Mirror, The Express and The Mail.
12 Posted 10/02/2017 at 19:38:05
13 Posted 10/02/2017 at 19:54:52
I'm a bit extreme on this one. I take the view that Murdoch is responsible for this. I never would buy his tabloid but I won't buy any of his other papers. I won't buy Sky either. Twenty years ago my daughters, now 26 and 24, asked when we would get Sky I told them "When Murdoch dies." I explained and they never asked again.
14 Posted 10/02/2017 at 20:08:50
It will be interesting if this has a knock on effect from the wider News Corp family in regards to the ban, hopefully we'll see them less on TV from now on. But honestly with all the News Corp backed outlets out there, the Sun can use these sources as part of there reporting.
If the club wanted to make a serious statement, they should ban News Corp altogether, but with the Sky money that will never happen.
15 Posted 10/02/2017 at 20:19:42
16 Posted 10/02/2017 at 20:26:06
Or maybe they pull out of Premier League? No red would ever want that no matter what the issue. Takes me back to that Shankly quote about how important football is. Always thought it was utter bullshit.
I really think the most important thing is the city not forgetting those fans .And respecting other clubs who have also had tragedies. In my view gestures like this achieve nothing. It was the legal fight that had the substance and bravery.
17 Posted 10/02/2017 at 20:31:49
And they will justify it all by saying it isn't what the fans at Hillsborough would have wanted. That may be true but never believe that is the real driving force.
18 Posted 10/02/2017 at 20:59:52
19 Posted 10/02/2017 at 21:01:59
I never bought the Sun before, like thousands of people, so I will not be buying it now, but let people make their own minds up whether they want to buy it or not.
20 Posted 10/02/2017 at 21:02:01
21 Posted 10/02/2017 at 21:06:49
22 Posted 11/02/2017 at 05:32:39
There were Evertonians who lost family members at Hillsrborough. Everton should ban The Sun to show support for the families who fought for justice.
I'm all for a free press but The Sun hardly proved itself to be 'free' did it, it knew the story was bullshit and still ran it. There are some issue that are more important than whether Lukaku signs a new contract or not, FFS.
23 Posted 11/02/2017 at 06:27:48
24 Posted 11/02/2017 at 08:33:24
25 Posted 11/02/2017 at 08:56:28
26 Posted 11/02/2017 at 12:34:40
Both clubs DO take the money from Sky, but it's not as if we have a choice, do we? The FA are a funny bunch who obviously did loads of loopholes and backhanders in order to give Sky the rights to almost play God, close to dictating the times when we should play football. I'd like to see a change in those rules, but it looks like it won't be any time soon.
27 Posted 12/02/2017 at 00:37:55
The fella who wrote the article and stated that the allegations were just that, allegations! is dead, Kelvin McKenzie was the editor at the time (his decision to go to print with the headline) and he finished in the 90s.
I think the timing is all wrong, only them know why, you can make your own mind up.
28 Posted 12/02/2017 at 00:53:36
I hate the shite with a passion but Hillsborough impacted on a lot of people, red, blue and beyond the city Some issues transcend rivalry.
The orchestrated campaign to blame the fans of which the S#n was an intrinsic part and the ongoing cover up by them and the establishment is one of the greater scandals of our time. I whole-heartedly support their ban of that scummy piece of dirt and hope that we stand by them and do likewise.
29 Posted 12/02/2017 at 14:32:01
Without focusing on underlying problems (one of the purposes of a public inquiry such as the one into Hillsborough), and tackling these, banning only The Sun could be interpreted as posturing, and indeed insulting to the families of victims.
So I would support LFC in their ban provided the ban was against Sky.
30 Posted 12/02/2017 at 18:15:27
I do, because it's the way it is and the only alternative is to watch my local amateurs. And, you know what, they fucking act like they are in the Premier League.
31 Posted 12/02/2017 at 18:22:42
Load of arseholes peddling prejudice and bile, and that's only the football writers.
32 Posted 14/02/2017 at 11:33:16
33 Posted 14/02/2017 at 11:50:35
I think the families should be consulted and asked. If they think it would be right to ban The Sun, do it.
I would also support banning Sky whatever the consequences with or without LFC, if that's what the families wanted. Then again I have not just ploughed 𧴜s of millions into EFC.
34 Posted 14/02/2017 at 13:24:48
35 Posted 14/02/2017 at 21:20:56
36 Posted 15/02/2017 at 13:19:14
37 Posted 15/02/2017 at 15:14:43
As for the Sun, did they apologise for that odious headline and compensate the victims? If they did the matter should be closed. Unless Liverpool and Everton want to cancel their TV rights with Sky.
38 Posted 15/02/2017 at 15:38:05
39 Posted 15/02/2017 at 15:41:01
Either move on, accepting that the culture of The Sun and its parent empire have improved in light of the events and inquiry, or ban both. Banning only The Sun appears to be a half-way house that looks like posturing of the kind politicians do when they 'apologise' insincerely.
40 Posted 15/02/2017 at 15:45:15
41 Posted 15/02/2017 at 15:45:55
42 Posted 15/02/2017 at 18:45:13
43 Posted 15/02/2017 at 19:17:39
I realise some folks will say that can't be done realistically, because of the financial clout of Sky, but if that attitude were always taken, big corporations could get away with anything with the effective blessing of ordinary people who do have it within their powers to boycott.
For example, in addition to an LFC ban, the fact that a lot of scousers have refused to read The Sun could be supplemented by them also deciding not to use Sky, plus any other measures for boycott they could think of.
44 Posted 15/02/2017 at 19:31:48
For me, any 'apology' at anytime, about anything, from this putrid, vile, hate-filled rag will simply be a matter of expediency.
Imo, it was, is and always will be a comic for those begging to be deceived and lied to.
Fodder for the braying, know-nothing, Farage-style saloon-bar lawyers.
For 50 years, Britain has allowed itself to be dumbed down by Murdoch, an Australian tax-dodger who sold his soul for cash and power a long time ago.
"Fuck knowledge, here a two-bob celeb getting out of a cab."
Murdoch is the head of a 'news' organisation who fucked journalism off in favour of phone hacking, including the phone of a murdered child.
A liar and a shit-house who has helped make thick and uninformed the norm.
So the idea that it's not available in Liverpool and there's seemingly no softening of resolve on the part of the people of the city of Liverpool, gives me hope.
45 Posted 15/02/2017 at 20:29:19
Steavey (#41), I agree with you about The South Yorkshire Police, but I always thought the FA walked away from this terrible disaster without so much as a real fucking stain?
46 Posted 15/02/2017 at 22:47:47
It includes a claim by McKenzie that he was 'misled'. But his apology was rejected by Trevor Hicks, of the Hillsborough Families Support Group, who said it was "too little, too late" and calling him "lowlife, clever lowlife, but lowlife".
The Sun editorial rightly concludes: ''The people of Liverpool may never forgive us for the injustice we did them. All we can do is offer them an unreserved and heartfelt apology that is profound, sincere and unambiguous.''
What is done cannot be undone.
47 Posted 15/02/2017 at 23:15:08
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