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You're NOT going to believe THIS!

I understand that during the summer, newspapers (certainly the tabloids) get desperate (well..even MORE desperate) for football stories.

However it isn’t really a problem for them, as they can/do/will simply invent a load of space-filler shite and Bob’s your new £35m Brazilian striker.

What does fascinate me is how many (each summer) on TW are prepared to take what is so obviously pure invention with it.

Simon Happy: “I’m not saying I believe it but he is a 20 goal striker.”

Bill Nark: “Only for a Brazilian side”

Simon: “They won the league 4 years ago”

Ted: “Yeah but they haven’t…”

And we’re off (could be a 300er!) based on complete bollocks.

Yeah I know - summer, but summer no reason to just give up on reason/logic/sense (and think of your health).

"So what's your point?"

This is basically just a gentle reminder to take with a (HUUUUGE!) pinch of salt, 99.9% of everything Everton-related you’re going to see/read in the next two months.

Because one thing FOR SURE is that 99.9% of everything written will be completely invented shite, written for the sole reason of filling a blank space in a paper and maybe flogging a few extra copies to the hard of thinking.


Anything that says “Koeman/Moshiri SAID..” (or stated) might be worth reading (as in might be true) but I wouldn’t set too much (any!) store by..

"A source revealed."

"An insider revealed."

"Is thought to be.."

"Could be on his way to.."

"Might be moving to.."

"Could be interested in a move to.."

"Is believed to be.."

"..has been mooted."

Etc etc etc.

This stuff is written in such a way as to actually point out "I'M A LIE, I'VE BEEN INVENTED!" and you'd have to be blind no to see it.

Also keep in mind that pure invention based on nothing is allowed by the press as there’s no comeback - none!

If a paper says “Gerrard will start next season in Everton’s midfield!”, when that DOESN'T happen, guess what?

Nothing…apart from a lot of very angry gullible dupes threatening to burn season-tickets and shrieking “Fuck off Everton, I’m finished…” etc rage.

Up to each individual of course, I'm not telling anyone what to believe.

Just what will be..unbelievable.

Puts flip-flops and Eric Morecambe-style shorts on, sits in pub garden while my 15 kids run wild.

Eugene Ruane     Posted 22/05/2017 at 15:36:05

What does Alisher Usmanov's failure to take over Arsenal mean for Everton?

It has been reported in the Guardian and other news outlets that Stan Kroenke has knocked back Usmanov's $1.3 billion attempt to take over Arsenal. Given the ties between Usmanov and Moshiri, could it mean that Everton is in line to be the next club purchased as a toy for a billionaire foreign owner?

Does it even matter if he spends millions and millions and Everton becomes a perennial top four and title contender as well as a CL participant? Would Evertonians trade a traditional love for local lads for squad after squad of "mercenaries" since that is what has happened at the Manchester, Chelsea, and Liverpool clubs?

I know I have asked everything in question form. I had to since I do not have the answers. I suspect if this scenario becomes a reality that it will deeply divide the fan base. Well, at least until the winning and trophy and title counts start increasing, I bet.

I wonder where Usmanov and Moshiri will each sit at the game?

Jim Hardin     Posted 20/05/2017 at 01:17:58

Rare Everton memorabilia in auction

Adam Partridge Auctioneers of Liverpool has rare and early Everton memorabilia coming up for sale 7th June 2017. To include the following items:

An early season ticket for 1910-1911.
A 1897 gold end-of-season medallion.
A rare 1907 supporter pin badge showing the team.
A quantity of early postcards showing a team photo.
We also have a quantity of signed match shirts.

These rare items very rarely come to the open market.
Rowena  Turner     Posted 19/05/2017 at 20:41:17

U23 Player of the Year

I see the only player from Everton to be nominated for the U23 Player of the year is 'Liam Walsh'.

Surely if he's the best in that league then he must be knocking on the first team door. I know he's suffered a few injuries but he's yet to even make the bench.

Anyway, good luck to the lad. Full list of nominees are:

Mason Mount (Chelsea), Liam Walsh (Everton), Axel Tuanzebe (Manchester United), Todd Cantwell (Norwich City), Josh Sims (Southampton), Joel Asoro (Sunderland), Oliver McBurnie (Swansea City), Domingos Quina (West Ham United), Marcus Browne (West Ham United), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Ben Woodburn (Liverpool)

..had to be 2 from that lot and will be no surprise if one of them steals it.
Liam Reilly     Posted 19/05/2017 at 17:12:43

U23s - Contract Review

I was looking, like thousands of other Evertonians, at the pictures of our incredible U23s lifting the Premier League Trophy and it got me thinking. What will become of this golden generation?

I decided to look over the contract situation for each of the young lads involved and was really impressed with how well the club has handled their contract situations collectively.

We all know about Tom Davies's and Dominic Calvert-Lewin's new contracts, but quietly the club has got several of the promising youngsters to sign contract extensions within the last 12 months or so.

Kieran Dowell signed last summer for a further 3 years to 2019, while Matthew Pennington, Jonjoe Kenny, Harry Charsley and Joe Williams also have signed extensions since.

Williams is contracted now until 2020, while the others mentioned are here till 2019, which is also the cut-off point for Bassala Sambou, Callum Connolly, Liam Walsh and Matty Foulds.

The much improved Beni Baningime has 1 year left to run, as does Morgan Feeney – and you would imagine that their contracts would be extended within the next 6 months or so.

David Henen is, perhaps, the only player whose 2018 contract will be allowed to expire.

This summer, the contracts run down on both goalkeepers, Mateus Hewelt, and Louis Gray and on Calum Dyson, who was voted Young Player of the Year on loan at Grimsby Town in League Two and may be itching to move on for first-team football at a lower level.

Also, Gethin Jones and Anthony Evans are still without a new contract for next season, but all-in-all I think we, as fans, should take our hats off to the club for keeping an eye on the contracts of this incredible crop of youngsters. We really are putting ourselves in a position to take advantage.

They probably won't all make it in the Premier League, but it is encouraging to know that those that do will be given the opportunity to do so at Everton.

Alasdair Mackay     Posted 09/05/2017 at 12:23:12

The 7th-best team finish 7th

I just watched Chelsea beat Middlesbrough 3-0 tonight. How many of our team would get in theirs? Maybe Lukaku who would be surrounded by better players... maybe not. In fact, I doubt that any of our team would get into any of the sides above us. We do not have good enough players; we do not pay the wages required, and do not pay the money to buy them.

Whether or not Koeman gets the best from what we have is open to debate but, it seems to me that we are where we should be. Our lack of real quality means that we have a negative mindset – protecting the back four, going away to nick a goal, and lacking belief. On another thread, Darren Hind suggested that the tide was turning (against Ronald Koeman, I presume) but he has finished 7th with a squad that, in my view, are well short of doing any better. He has adapted the tactics with what he has.

I doubt we will spend big in the summer and I see the way forward as hoping a couple of young lads will make it big, plus unearthing a gem in the transfer market. I believe that our expectations are higher than that of our new owner. I think that Koeman will keep us ticking over until we get a new ground. To get beyond that, we need luck with injuries, luck in the transfer window, and the spirit that Leicester had. Other than that, we need money... a lot of money.

Andy Crooks     Posted 08/05/2017 at 23:55:58

Goals alone do not an idol make

Evertonians young and old alike have made idols over the years of a select group of centre-forwards who have demonstrated their unique qualities, which, more often than not, included scoring goals in abundance. Some, but not all, have been part of trophy-winning sides which further enhanced their status amongst us.

We can all instantly reel off the names of this illustrious group – Dean, Lawton, Hickson, Young, Royle, Latchford, Sharp, Ferguson, Angell... (well, er, maybe not that one!)

Although a major pre-requisite to becoming an enduring idol, the ability to score a shedload of goals is not the sole requirement to achieve this distinguished honour. Bravery, hard work, commitment, never-say-die attitude, ability to build a natural ongoing affinity with the supporters, selflessness, embracing the team ethic and, perhaps most of all, possessing the realisation that playing for the greatest club on earth is not a stepping stone to the promised land, but the pinnacle of your career – are all essential contributory factors fundamental to being considered as counting towards becoming one of the chosen few.

It is crystal clear that Romelu Lukaku will, sadly, never become or even compete to become part of this exclusive group. He won't even get close. He has been afforded ample opportunity over an extended period to take up the mantle of the Chosen One, endear himself to thousands of young Evertonians, become part of the family, one of our own, only to return the honour with his now customary displays of inflated ego, arrogance, apathy and self-importance both on and off the pitch.

That's why, when he does go – and the sooner he does the better, he will be easily forgotten and erased from the memory as a passing fancy, a flash in the pan, becoming another of those who failed to seize the Holy Grail of idolatry from the Goodison faithful.

Frank Mullin     Posted 07/05/2017 at 15:42:34

Buy or Scout to bridge the gap?

The result against Chelsea and other results against the top six teams have shown us to be too slow, not technical enough. We can't break down technically good teams (apart from odd results); players lack ambition and the courage to attack and boss the better teams.

Is this season starting to show the widening of the gulf in class between the top six and the rest? Increases in revenue for the top four, plus the Champions League means the current best players will only play for clubs playing in the Champions League. (Yes, Leicester City are the exception but this will only happen now and again as the gulf between the top 6 is getting wider in terms of prize money and the spin-offs.)

Everton easily deal with teams below them with comfort, but I can't see Everton in the next 3 years or so competing with the top six. Even if a new stadium is built tomorrow, it's still going to take 2 or 3 years before it can be filled, before Everton have the pulling power to buy 3 or 4 world class players in the £50 to 60 million range... not at the moment, unless teams are regularly in the Champions League (not the qualifiers but the league stage) they are not interested.

Everton's current crop of players in the over-25 age bracket are never going to get us continually competing for Champions League places. We have an excellent youth academy – surely this is the only way for us now to bridge the gap?

We need to put big money into scouting, use that money to set up a top scout in each of the better-playing countries who scouts that country every day of the week. Buy the occasional player to keep us in the top ten for the next couple of years until the stadium is built, then hopefully the team has developed enough to attract the best players.

With a new stadium, full of Evertonians who will raise the roof and make it the worst place for visiting teams to come, top class players and youth players will all want to be a part of that.
Phillip Warrington     Posted 01/05/2017 at 11:04:51

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