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1 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:01:30
2 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:10:55
I agree. If the price is right and we have a decent replacement lined up, it would be good business.
Never really settled on him which is strange as, being an almost nailed on starter for Argentina, you'd expect him to be the first defenders name on the teamsheet, but he just hasn't been that solid.
3 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:17:16
Perfect scenario for us could see him going to Inter for around £20m and us hijacking the Van Dijk deal. Left-footed center backs are not exactly dime a dozen but imagine Van Dijk and Keane as our centre-back pairing!!
Make a £60m bid for Van Dijk, and effectively pick him up for £40m if Funes Mori goes. But sadly I don't think we could convince Van Dijk of our ambition. Yet.
4 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:24:58
One full season and he will be valued at £30m+.
5 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:27:11
6 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:33:11
I know you really like Funes Mori. Not for me personally but we are entitled to our opinions.
I'd prefer someone to come in and really challenge Williams & Jagielka to partner Keane.
Not saying it should be Ben Mee from Burnley but I watched enough of him last season to notice he was solid. I never truly thought Funes Mori was solid.
Let's get a decent partner for Keane with a style that complements well.
7 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:42:22
I'm hopeful, of course but can't see it to be honest. Then again, stranger things have happened (Rooney) haha.
8 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:46:49
When Williams played for Swansea he kept our £75 million Lukaku quiet every time we played them, so I'm hoping to see the real Ashley Williams this season, especially when Lukaku plays against him for Man Utd.
9 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:56:23
That said, I would only sell him if the Van Dijk (or perhaps Koulibaly another leftie) deal looks incredibly likely, otherwise I would prefer to stick with what we know for now.
10 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:04:59
11 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:05:14
Some don't like him, but Argentina see him as a future captain and I believe he needs a protracted run in the first team to allow him to build up a good understanding with Keane. All the best defensive partnerships over the years have taken time to grow and develop in understanding each other.
Any player who is a shoe-in for Argentina has to have something to offer Everton. He could grow into a long term member of the new Everton Koeman is building. Or would his detractors prefer that we keep the aging Williams and Jagielka as squad members?
12 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:06:07
A back 3 of Van Dijk, Williams & Keane is a perfect blend of experience, pace and power.
13 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:17:45
14 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:17:54
15 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:25:58
Still don't think there's any way that Van Dijk is coming here.
16 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:35:22
It's obviously his natural position so he needs to start getting game time and experience there instead of having mares at right back which he did once or twice last term; give him bits and pieces in the Europa and league cups.
Not sure about Van Dijk at that price; from what I saw of him last season, he's nowhere near Keane.
17 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:51:52
At the end of last season, I would have said we had no chance of signing Van Dijk. Now...
I think we've shown potential signings that we're a club going places with the players we've signed. We also have a new city stadium in the offing.
We've pushed the boundaries and there's now 7 big clubs vying for Champions League football. If Koeman wants him, Van Dijk will sign for Everton FC.
18 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:09:31
19 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:40:07
20 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:46:26
I agree. I've seen him play a lot of Argentina games and he is terrific. But he's not a good fit for the prem. The pace in terms of decision making is tough for him and he's a bit too emotional. Reminds me of Materazzi. So so for Everton but a legend in Italy.
21 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:49:52
I don't see Van Dijk as a £60 million addition for us. That's double what we've ever spent on a striker. I am saying he's over-priced but it would seem an odd move for us to smash the record for a centre-back when we are sniffing around for bargains on strikers based on promise or past glories.
22 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:50:39
23 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:56:16
His left foot gave the team balance and the main reason he remained in the side in my opinion.
Often tried to win the ball when it's simply couldn't be won. Exposed in a back 4, better in a back 5.
I would as they say 'drive him to Milan myself'.
His sale will at least pave the way for a better replacement. Young and marketable, he should yield a decent fee.
Bigger fish to fry Everton, go get a full-on boss centre-back.
24 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:05:02
Funes Mori hasn't got the pace, and he has never had the opportunity to play in a settled back five. Forcing Jags to play left while Stones pissed about must have frustrated Funes Mori immensely.
We've put Galloway out on loan so, unless we sign another left-sided centre-back, we'd be daft to let Funes Mori go.
25 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:13:08
26 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:24:58
27 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:43:44
Are there no possible loan-to-buy players out there?
28 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:42:10
29 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:51:31
Palace came in for him at €25 and were slapped back.
30 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:06:10
Jags & Williams are well aging fast & past their peak – neither now has pace (Williams never did) and are both slow on the turn and liabilities in the air. Williams is leaden-footed and little more than a muscular shirt-tugger -– he was well over-rated when we signed him as a stop-gap replacement for Stones and was frequently badly exposed in the last 10 games of last season.
Funes Mori did well until Roberto started messing him about and is a better prospect for the next 3/4 years – could have leadership potential with the passion he shows.
I'd keep Jags as a squad player and for games against easier opposition.
31 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:03:00
32 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:08:32
I think £30m upwards at least with the market the way it is. Is he worth it? Nope. But he would be brilliant in Spain or Italy.
33 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:50:00
Interestingly we conceded 20% less goals in Williams first season with us got to ask the question is this mere coincidence?
34 Posted 09/07/2017 at 07:30:46
If given a run of games by Koeman, Keane and Funes Mori could potentially be the core of Everton's defence for the next 5-6 years. Give him 1 more season to establish himself (we always have Williams and Jags and Holgate as back-up), if not sell him next year.
For me, the priority is to find a long term replacement to Baines, who has visibly lost his effectiveness and energy. The modern full-back needs to be powerful, fast and skilful capable of running up and down the flank for 90 minutes – and Baines cannot be that player week-in, week-out anymore.
35 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:00:49
I quite like Funes Mori and he does score the odd goal but I think there are better out there and i'm not sure as other have said that he is suited to this league. I expect Williams and Keane to start the season for us.
36 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:24:16
37 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:52:25
Can't time tackles. Can't pass. Players just walk past him (no need to run).
Harsh I know, but pretty true imo.
Sell. Now. Please.
38 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:32:05
He is better in the tackle and even reasonable with distribution. He certainly has the passion and heart for a scrap.
Difficult one for me, and one I suspect we would end up regretting when he ends up lifting the World Cup with Argentina.
39 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:03:07
40 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:09:10
41 Posted 09/07/2017 at 20:01:31
I think Van Dijk is way too expensive.
42 Posted 09/07/2017 at 20:30:22
I hope Funes Mori becomes a more competent and consistent defender with the new signings. It'll help that the ball may just be retained a lot longer in the opposition's half than was ever the case in recent seasons. He has a goal threat too, and that shouldn't be overlooked either. I think Ron probably rates goal-scoring centre-backs!
43 Posted 10/07/2017 at 08:27:12
I hope you are right about Funes Mori also – he also seems to have a bit of character.
44 Posted 10/07/2017 at 14:49:35
He is the future captain of one of the biggest footballing powerhouses of World football I talking about Argentina not Everton!!
He has been prone to mistakes. Koeman definitely lost faith in him. And for that reason I see us cashing in at getting £25 - £30 mil for him. He is very highly rated on the continent. Possibly due to his performances for Argentina?
Van Dijk is still a real possibility. The cash is there and he is exactly what we need to go next to Keane.
It's an exciting time to think about the kind of squad we are putting together. But, I do feel, it will take sometime to gel and get the best out of what we have (or what we're going to sign!).
We are also still missing Coleman & Bolasie. Fans have their own opinions. Mine is; we are better with these two in the squad. Both have pace and both love to get forward and make things happen.
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