It has been mentioned many a time this season how our squad is unbalanced, poor in quality and in need of a complete rebuild.
This however is easier said than done, a complete clear-out can have many a negative impact: need to sign too many players can lead to complacency and buying whoever is available, unbalanced squads with no chemistry, being over-charged as people know were desperate, failure to fill certain positions. It also has the problem of actually selling our current players,many on big contracts that few teams will be willing to match.
So in our current squad, including loans and youth near the first team:
Pickford, Roubles, Stekelenberg
Baines, Coleman, Martina, Holgate, Williams, Jagielka, Mori, Keane, Foulds, Kenny, Robinson, Galloway, Pennington
Gueye, Schneiderlin, Davies, Besic, McCarthey, Baningime, Williams, Bowler
Rooney, Sigurdsson, Klassen, Vlasic, Dowell, Grant
Tosun, Lewin, Lookman, Bolasie, Walcott, Sandro, Mirallas, Niasse, Henry.
The scary things when looking at the squad liat, minus Walcott, Pickford,Coleman and maybe Sigurdsson, the case could be made for any of the above to be sold off and there woud be little grief. Tosun and Gueye may well be considered worth keeping, while youth like Baningime, Davies, Lookman, Kenny, Holgate, Lewin, and Dowell have probably done enough to get a chance. The rest however, dispensable (some other young lads like Vlasic, Henry, Grant also may deserve a chance as they have yet to be given one, neither here nor elsewhere)
So that leaves by my count 18 dispensible first team squad members. 18 is a lot of players, so who to keep and who to let go? And how many is too many?
Roubles: probably wants to go.
Stek: just a disaster waiting to happen, has to go.
That leaves us needing 2 back-up keepers.
Williams: not good enough, time to go.
Baines: needs to be phased out, but worth a place in squad.
Jags: worth keeping one more season.
Martina: just not very good.
Mori: never really a PL player, probably thrive on the continant, one player we may actually get decent money for.
Keane: not good enough, but worth keeping, could improve.
Galloway: never lived up to his promise. Championship/league 1 beckons.
Pennington: not PL standard.
That means 5 defenders moved on, with at least 3 (2 cb and 1 lwb) needed. Total: 7 out, 5 in.
Schneiderlin: public enemy no1 for much of this season. Just awful form for a talented player. Sell while still has value.
McCarthey: crocked. Sell.
Besic: let boro keep him, not good enough for what we want.
That is 3 out, but with Gueye, Baningime, and Davies, no need to sign a repacment for all. Maybe one in. Total 10 out, 6 in.
Rooney: too big a wage, too big an influence, not good enough. USA beckons.
Klassen: live in hope? Maybe a new manager will utilize, maybe not.
Vlasic: worth keeping. Got potential.
2 sold, with hopefully 1 top quality replacement. Total 12 out, 7 in.
Sandro: back to spain. Hopefully make a small profit.
Niasse: we all like you, but sorry, got to go.
Bolasie: difficult due to wages and we wont want to make a huge loss. A season on the bench beckons.
Mirrallas: gone and forgotton.
3 out, and need to sign at least 1 top quality, fast, direct and effective forward.
Total 15 out, 8 in.
A big ask, but doable, and should balance the squad somewhat.
Reader Comments (31)
Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer
1 Posted 09/05/2018 at 21:37:33
I would suggest little change. A back up goalkeeper for sure. Williams and Rooney gone, our loanees back and two quality signings. A massive turnover of players would mean starting again. Allardyce out, that will do. Also who is going to take these contracted players? For example, Sell MCarthy because he is crocked, sell him to who?
2 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:29:52
3 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:41:46
Incomings would be a new LB to challenge Baines, a CB to replace Williams, a creative CM and maybe another striker of better quality to replace Niasse.
I think this summer the real clearout should be away from the playing field. There needs to be a mass overhaul at the top. This would constitute a summer of change for all the right reasons and one which is more important than the merry go round of players.
4 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:49:18
You are talking about people here, Damian, not a computer game with players you can fuck off at a whim. Do you actually believe that half the squad can be booted out, replaced and all will be well? Delude? Yeah, you are.
5 Posted 10/05/2018 at 09:55:24
(If Rooney leaves, I expect either of Klaassen/Besic to stay)
So, 8/9 out.
Ins would be:
A back-up keeper (on loan?)
A left back (Shaw/Tierney/etc)
A centre back (Mawson, I would like)
A mid-field player (Wilshere/Madisson)
A forward (break-the-bank type player like Zaha)
So, 4/5 in.
The squad for the new season:
GK: Pickford, Stek, New GK
LB: Baines, New (Shaw)
CB: Keane, Jags, Holgate, New (Mawson), Pennington
RB: Coleman, Kenny
Midfield: Siggy, Gueye, McCarthy, Baningime, Davies, Vlasic, NewFella
Forwards: Lookman, Rooney, New (Zaha), Walcott, Tosun, Calvert-Lewin, Niasse
This starting XI under a good manager would be pretty decent:
Coleman Keane Mawson Shaw
Gueye Siggy Wilshere
Zaha Walcott Lookman
6 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:38:02
7 Posted 10/05/2018 at 12:33:44
8 Posted 10/05/2018 at 13:36:03
His diagnosis was not much removed from that of Fran in the piece above although 'Teardrops' Kenwright had to deny we needed a clear out.
With almost as many players fit only to go as to stay, I reckon Sam's our man. None of these softie foreigner managers will be up for it so let the big man earn his inflated salary whilst clearing the decks for us !
Desperate times .
9 Posted 10/05/2018 at 13:39:15
In the last 6/7 games, we have had a settled back 4 and goalkeeper, so no desperate need for a signing here. I would probably let Robles go and keep Stek as understudy. I would also let Martina and Williams go, and bring in a left sided defender who could eventually success Baines.
In midfield, we do have some players who arent good enough to let go. Besic, Schneiderlin, Klaassen and maybe Bolasie. I would try to get Aaron Ramsey, and maybe a left sided attacker with pace.
Id like us to sign a top striker with pace if possible, to complement the strikers we have currently. So by my reckoning, thats 4 players we need. I would also send Davies and Calvert-Lewin on loan to the Championship for the season. They need a season to learn their trade elsewhere. The pair of them could be important players for us if they can master their trade elsewhere.
The last thing we need is a big influx of players again. It didnt exactly have the desired effect last season, after all!
10 Posted 10/05/2018 at 14:21:41
Williams, Bolasie, Martina and Besic just aren't good enough so they should definitely go. Jags is getting on so he should be replaced and the same applies to Baines. A creative attacking midfielder is a must as well as a top class striker.
Above all else the new manager should be the number one priority.
11 Posted 10/05/2018 at 16:32:01
2-3 high quality signings, clear the deadwood and give youth a chance under a progressive and positive manager.
12 Posted 10/05/2018 at 17:23:52
The difficulty we have is our best quality players are all getting a bit old now so we don't have much to build on.
I agree with Andy Crooks though we don't want wholesale change just gradual change and improved coaching and tactics.
Along with the new "quality" brought in we need to have that winning mentality and a bit of devilment. Look at how Chelsea have fallen away just because Costa has gone.
We have become too nice for the current Premiership.
13 Posted 10/05/2018 at 18:10:15
Bringing back our loan players, Dowell and Lookman, to play on both wings gives us pace and skill with the element of surprise and with Walcott supporting Tosun up front we would have the necessary firepower to get us the goals.
The back four kind of picks itself, perm four from eight and with Pickford between the sticks we're good to go for me to easily achieve 40+ points, but more importantly a League Cup win. Then it really begins Blues, success by the fastest means possible next season. Oh the joy!
14 Posted 10/05/2018 at 18:15:03
15 Posted 10/05/2018 at 19:11:33
“Should balance the squad somewhat” WHAT A JOKE!
- This level of change, will only lead to another year of lack of confidence & instability.
The only players that need to leave, are those that have a poor attitude, or would like to leave, or are not good enough. Im sure there will be many loans too - which need to be better analysed to benefit the players.
Robles & Rooney are already on the way out.
Keep all your so called “not good enough” players - Bolasie, McCarthy, Schneiderlin, etc... They have a lot to offer. The chance needs to be in policy - if players arent performing - then the back up players get a chance.
Besic (best of luck - great attitude)
Pennington (buy back clause)
Holgate (I think he would grow a lot by having a full season in the championship)
Baningime (same scenario as Holgate)
Robinson (one more season to grow)
Dowell (one more season on loan to grow)
(All of the above with a call-back option, if injuries occur)
CB: Lascelles & Mawson
LB: Bertrand / Tierney
FINAL SQUAD: 2018/19
GK: Pickford / Stek
RB: Coleman / Kenny / Cuco
RCB: Keane / Mawson / Jagielka
LCB: Lascelles / Funes Mori
LB: Bertrand / Baines
CDM: Gueye / Schneiderlin / McCarthy
RCM: Klaassen / Davies
LCM: Sigurdsson / Vlasic
RW: Walcott / Bolasie
LW: Onyekuru / Lookman / Sandro
ST: Tosun / Calvert-Lewin / Niasse
16 Posted 11/05/2018 at 01:11:16
We'll see who leaves. This "Get rid." stuff is pure Football Fantasy League. Players are under contract.
McCarthy has two years left on contract. No team will take a flyer on a crock. God bless him, but that's who he is now.
Garbutt has three years left. Three! A complete failure. Who will take him?
Besic has three years left at £50k per week. Let's all pull for Boro in the playoff. And pull for Besic's hamstrings to hold up.
Mirallas couldn't wait to go back to his old club. A complete disaster. Two years left on his contract. Who will have him?
Williams is washed-up at 33 with one year to go contracted at £70k per week. Who's going to sign him? Christ, why would he leave?
Stek has one year left. Robles is out of contract and likely will leave for playing time. Who would take Stek, except to have sit on the bench just like he's doing now? Why leave?
Jags and Baines have one year left, too. But they can actually still play. Just not regularly. Their legs won't have it.
My guess, is that some of the kids will sign elsewhere or go out on loan. We DO have an array of young talent. That's the simplest way to cut down the roster and wages.
It's fun TW conversation with the window opening soon. Beyond that, it amounts to nothing.
Except, we DO need a new CB and LB. And a new manager to make something of the rest of the squad.
17 Posted 11/05/2018 at 02:49:40
Schneiderlin has been awful, just awful, and will go back to France.
Rooney has already backed his bags.
Martina... need to say?
Klaassen, why keep him?
Funes Mori, really? Maybe keep him, but think he'll push for a move.
But do any/will any of these players contribute to either squad harmony or improvement in performance?
18 Posted 11/05/2018 at 10:46:51
Before Sam we had Ronald who was hardly inspirational and blamed the players rather than himself. Sam came in and did the same but got better results largely through having Coleman and Baines available to give stability and balance.
Morgan has looked much better lately- is he playing for a move or have things changed in his life and his form and appetite is returning? Keane has shown signs of life and should get better with a top class CB next to him. Davy looks the type who needs the right players around him to bring out his best form and if Brands does come in then maybe he will come good. Sandro hardly had a decent crack of the whip for a young lad coming to a foreign country the list goes on. I would look to bring in maybe four top class players if we can find them and get rid of the real dross but give everyone else a chance under a manager with a plan who genuinely wants to be here- Ron never did and I think that was his main problem.
Its not going to be easy but thats what Brands will be paid for.
19 Posted 11/05/2018 at 11:29:29
Saying that, some players (and management) are just so dire that their place in the squad is beyond laughable at this point.
20 Posted 11/05/2018 at 14:03:25
It sounds like Rooney is basically gone and there will be others who will leave - Sandro, Mirallas, Robles, Williams (surely), Martina (hopefully) and Schneiderlin (please); but we will have a new DoF, a new CEO, possibly a whole new scouting structure and hopefully a new coach to blood in - it is alot of transition for the existing players to handle already, we don't need 5 or 6 new first team players to add to the problems.
We have plenty of midfielders and another season of development for Calvert-Lewin, plus Tosun and Walcott means we are okay up front (for now). Holgate, Mori (never been well coached at Everton) and Keane are 3 of the 4 long-term options at CB. We will need 1 more eventually, but we have Jags for now and Pennington to come back from loan, so we can leave this for another 6 months if need be. We have RBs.
This summer I would only want to see a LB and we may need a back-up keeper, too.
Less squad upheaval, more focus on structure and coaching. That's the answer for now. We need a clearer understanding of what we have.
21 Posted 11/05/2018 at 15:23:45
We may be stuck with some shite for next season, but that does not mean we have to play them if they're showing a lack of commitment - this should be expressed to those players concerned - buck up or tell your agents make arrangements to leave or get use to not playing!
Pickford - keep
Stek - if we can offload both Robles and Stek, then we need a new back-up goalkeeper and I'd promote from the u23's for the third choice position. If one of Robles or Stek is sold then just promote from the u23's.
Coleman - keep
Kenny - keep
Baines - keep
Garbutt - if we can offload both Martina and Garbutt, then we need to sign a replacement for left-back. There is a strong argument for signing one regardless, as a long-term replacement for Baines (i agree), but realistically, we do need to trim this area of sub-standard players.
Jags - keep (to see out contract)
Keane - open to offers, but willing to keep
Funes Mori - open to offers, but willing to keep
Pennington - again, if all three of Williams, Galloway and Pennington can be offloaded, then a replacement of high quality must be brought in. Unfortunately, if not then it may be a case of sticking until the next season.
Davies - keep
Gueye - keep
Baningime - keep
Klaassen - open to offers, but willing to keep
Williams - keep for u23's
Bowler - keep for u23's
Schneiderlin - if we can offload all of Besic, McCarthy and Schneiderlin then a replacement of the highest quality available is essential - this is an area where we really need to instill some guile and craft, so I'd be tempted to make this transfer regardless of outgoings (budget permitting).
Walcott - keep
Henry - keep
Lookman - keep
Vlasic - open to offers, but willing to keep
Dowell - open to offers, but willing to keep
Grant - if we can offload Bolasie, Mirallas and Grant, I'd be tempted to move for a top-level target if the funds are available. If not, it may be a case of waiting until re can offload them before upgrading.
Tosun - keep
Lewin - open to offers, but willing to keep
Rooney - open to offers, but willing to keep (as back up)
Niasse - if we can offload Niasse and Sandro we need to look for a speedy finisher to replace them. Again, I may be inclined to get one anyway (budget permitting).
All this does is emphasize the effects of last summers shite business and how we are potentially stuck with players going through the motions and collecting huge wages whilst doing so...
22 Posted 11/05/2018 at 15:48:18
23 Posted 11/05/2018 at 16:45:05
At certain points early in the season we had Pickford, Martina, Keane, Klaasen, Sigurdsson, Rooney and Vlasic playing key parts in games. That's 7 out of 14 usable players on a match day that needed to learn each others' foibles, fortes, runs and communication skills.
2, 3 or 4 1st team players as new signings is the maximum you can have without it having an adverse affect on performances, depending on the individuals' adaptability.
We need to shed some of the excess players and add 1 or 2 pieces to the team this summer, then see where we are in December and use January to add a couple more.
24 Posted 11/05/2018 at 20:08:49
A left back
A centre back
A goalscoring playmaker (winger or AMC depending on what formation we play)
25 Posted 12/05/2018 at 07:29:40
Shocking business! Especially when you add in the two and soon to be three managerial pay offs!
Were could end up as the Toys R Us of the premier league if were not careful!
26 Posted 12/05/2018 at 21:24:49
Winston, I enjoy football manager stuff, too. However, phases, and I' m not quoting you, by the way, like,"get rid, offlload, fuck off", etc are meaningless and ignore stuff like, err.. contracts, people with kids at school, players who might like their team mates and don't actually want to be fucked off to another club. Also, I know that we have a history of buying players good clubs don't want, but it will take a mighty fool to offer anything like a decent return on Williams, Schneiderlin, Bolasie, Niasse or McCarthy.
27 Posted 13/05/2018 at 08:15:16
Bolasie plus cash for Zaha?
Schneiderlin plus cash for French-based target?
Williams plus cash for Mawson?
28 Posted 14/05/2018 at 14:37:46
Patrick van Aanholt
Muhamed Bešić (keep and return to first squad)
Kieran Dowell (keep and return to first squad)
Ademola Lookman (keep and return to first squad)
Harry Charsley (loan out for season)
Joe Williams (loan out for season)
Antonee Robinson (keep and promote to first squad)
Boris Mathis (loan out for season)
Callum Connolly (keep and promote to first squad)
Matthew Pennington (return to first squad)
Brenden Galloway (Sell)
Luke Garbutt (Sell)
Tyias Browning (Sell)
Sandro Ramírez (Sell)
Kevin Mirallas (Sell)
29 Posted 14/05/2018 at 15:20:53
It's not going to happen. He will stay with us. He will be in or around the side, simply because we cannot sell him and we cannot afford to write his wages off.
And this is the scenario that follows all down the long list of players that you have all proposed. We have spent a fortune on these players, both in terms of transfer fees and wages. Moshiri is an accountant. He will not just write off so much money like that.
He will hire a head coach, and he will have someone like Brands in charge of transfers. He will task Brands with selling off the crap but to be patient about doing it. He will hire the head coach on the basis that the head coach thinks he can work wonders with the present squad.
This is the reality that we need to be prepared for. However, I still think that with reduced games next season, we can utilise a settled first XI and find a good team from that. We just need to get players like Lookman back into the side.
30 Posted 14/05/2018 at 18:48:25
31 Posted 17/05/2018 at 09:19:36
Add Your Comments
In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.
Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site.