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Giroud will come for £40m in January

| Sunday, 24 September 2017  101 Comments  [Jump to last]

In the Mirror, Neil Moxley boldly states that Ronald Koeman will return for Arsenal's Olivier Giroud with a £40m offer in January – and this time he will get his man.

Everton's boss is set to push through a £40million deal for the striker in the New Year after failing to land the forward he wanted to replace Romelu Lukaku.

Giroud was understood to be keen on a move to Merseyside as he had not been guaranteed regular first-team football at the Emirates.

It is understood that Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger may have played a part in blocking any move because he doubted that Alexis Sanchez would remain. Those fears proved well-founded as Manchester City failed with a deadline-day offer of £70m for the Chilean international who had less than 12 months remaining on his contract with the Gunners.

That situation led to Koeman's long chase for the Arsenal forward falling through – and with so little time to switch to a Plan B, the decision was taken to shelve any movement.

However, With Arsenal's record signing Alexandre Lacazette barring his path to the first-team, Giroud needs to be playing to cement his place in France's World Cup team – and therfore, so Moxley claims, in January the long-mooted move is set to get the go-ahead.

Original Source: The Mirror  

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George Cumiskey
1 Posted 24/09/2017 at 15:08:10
So Koeman is going to try again for Giroud in January.

If there is one player we shouldn't be going for it's him, although he isn't a bad target man he must be one of the slowest strikers in the premiership.

At this moment in time we are desperate for pace in attack ,if we sign someone of his ilk it will be the same old slow build-up with no one to give the ball to, to get us up the pitch.

What is Koeman's fascination with slow players?

Will Mabon
2 Posted 24/09/2017 at 16:21:52
George, post 85:

I noted the rumoured interest in Giroud and Josh King mentioned too. I think we've seen enough to know that whilst any real style of play is difficult to perceive, the slow build up and target man are likely part of his intentions.

You can almost bank on Barkley and Niasse being out of the place in January if Koeman remains and is allowed free reign. Anyone that wants to see slow, dour safety play as a way of "moving forward", simply support Koeman and hope that he is not pressured by fan opinion or anyone else within the club. He'll default to it if allowed.

Giroud is completely unnecessary if we wish to progress.

Paul Birmingham
3 Posted 24/09/2017 at 20:38:21
I hope this is just rumours and journo bull.
Jack Convery
4 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:02:43
If we are spending that much, go for Vardy – pace to burn.
Tim Locke
5 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:06:36
His striking record speaks for itself. He knows where the back of the net is, which is something we need. He has got Arsenal out of jail a fair few times. Clearly not the young, quick, undiscovered striker everyone would like to get but surely better than nothing.
Peter Laing
6 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:15:49
No thanks; let him continue to warm the bench at Arsenal. He had his chance during the Summer but his Mrs didn't fancy moving North, apparently. Give Oumar Niasse a run – he's earned it!!!
Mark Tanton
7 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:27:06
He showed us in the summer how much he values regular football. He can fuck off and twiddle his thumbs at Arsenal as far as I'm concerned – if he really choose staying in London over playing football in the last big move of his career he's a cretin, a pretty boy and a very modern footballer.

Having said that, if he signs, I'll get his name on my shirt.

Andrew Ellams
8 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:27:25
Vardy and Redmond. Pace and goals.
Paul A Smith
9 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:52:35
Arsenal are not that good. Better than us, I admit, but still not that good. And Giroud can't get a start there.
Bob Parrington
10 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:55:12
Let's move on and sign somebody who is better than what we already have or forget it. Giroud is not that man!
James Marshall
11 Posted 24/09/2017 at 21:57:14
Play him up front with Niasse.
Tom Bowers
12 Posted 24/09/2017 at 22:03:53
Lot's of things can happen before January. Bolasie and Seamus could both come back which would improve the attacking options. Calvert-Lewin could really mature into a quality attacker and also Niasse could stake his claim further, given more opportunities.

They may have some players to move out which could free up some wages to bring in another quality midfielder or attacker. Giroud can finish and is good in the air but I agree, he isn't speedy – but neither was Rom.

I would really like to see Barkley come back from injury and do a job but maybe that's unlikely. Sandro, Gueye and Klaassen don't look like they will get many goals between them but I would like to see McCarthy in the holding role again.

Kunal Desai
13 Posted 24/09/2017 at 22:04:35
This club must be that daft that it can't identify any other striker on this planet other than an Arsenal outcast.
Denver Daniels
14 Posted 24/09/2017 at 22:07:41
On loan? Yes; to buy? No.
Rob Dolby
15 Posted 24/09/2017 at 22:10:51
Go and get the lad from Atalanta, he looked class against us. Giroud has already snubbed us once and at 31 is probably past his best.
Dennis Stevens
16 Posted 24/09/2017 at 22:23:39
Aye, a loan until the summer would probably work for all parties.
Iain Love
17 Posted 24/09/2017 at 23:47:47
Reports coming through about us going back for Giroud in January. whilst I think he's a decent player he's obviously not what we need and if we keep Koeman we'll probably get him, keep Ross and get another number 10 in that window.
Fran Mitchell
18 Posted 24/09/2017 at 23:51:40
If he costs £40 million, then the £90 million we got for Lukaku looks increasingly cheap.
Steve Ferns
19 Posted 25/09/2017 at 00:09:51
He'll be to the attack what Ashley Williams is to the defence. Good for 12 months, but way too expensive. Let Walsh earn his money and find better.
Si Cooper
20 Posted 24/09/2017 at 00:11:40
Nathan Redmond – pace and goals? According to his stats on Wikipedia, the most League goals he has scored in one season is 8. We've got to be aiming higher than that sort of player, especially because his price will be inflated.
Will Mabon
21 Posted 25/09/2017 at 00:30:22
"I agree, he isn't speedy – but neither was Rom."

Are you serious?

Will Mabon
22 Posted 25/09/2017 at 00:34:07
To whoever at the club:

For the love of God, don't let Koeman buy another slow player. Don't even think about letting him buy anyone 'til he sorts out this mess he's presided over.

David Currie
23 Posted 25/09/2017 at 00:38:04
A big slow lump who can't get in the Arsenal side, £40 million – absolute joke for a 31-year-old. This would make us the slowest team in the league.

We need speed, movement and strikers who can get behind defenders. I don't want this man anywhere near our club.

Phil Sammon
24 Posted 25/09/2017 at 00:52:58
Who's going to put the crosses in for him?
Dale Rose
25 Posted 25/09/2017 at 00:55:31
We have just paid a shed load of money for Sigurdsson, who is not that great at all. Giroud is a good player but certainly not a £40 million man. He is also too old for a striker.

Let's stop buying all this crap and go with what we have. We should bed the youngsters in this season, ready for next season. We wont get a top five finish this season but the preparation will be invaluable for 2018-19.

If we pay for Giroud, £40 million coupled with the £45 million we paid for Sigurdsson, that's virtually all the Lukaku money. I'd have rather seen Lukaku get a massive wage hike, than pay out on these two.

Derek Thomas
26 Posted 25/09/2017 at 01:05:04
A slow 30-year-old for £40M no thanks. A fast 30-year-old in Vardy for 40M - maybe.

Calvert-Lewin - in place and getting better everyday. If he was in United's team instead of Martial or Rashford he'd be in the England team next International break... and there's an outside chance he may even make it with us.

Support him and get a balanced team around him and if Koeman keeps picking silly line ups with three No 10s, two defensive midfielders no pace or width fuck him off.

Remaining seriously unconvinced that £40M for Giroud is isn't just throwing money at the problem... and the problem is it's the initial starting 11.

Jim Harrison
27 Posted 25/09/2017 at 01:52:26
Not for that money! But I would take him. Along with another pacy forward.

Calvert-Lewin is looking better and better. Niasse looks like he can do a job now. By the New Year we will have Coleman and Bolasie back.

If Coleman can be anywhere near the player he was and Baines can get forward a bit more we can have crosses from Bolasie, Baines, Coleman and Sigurdsson for a front man to get on. From another perspective a good target man up front who can bring the ball down and play back to whoever sits behind would help.

John Pierce
28 Posted 25/09/2017 at 02:15:42
I'm strongly against giving Koeman any more signings.

Everton need to be in the top seven come Christmas and still in both the League Cup & Europa League. Should we be there and in with a sniff, then yeah one or two quality additions would be worthwhile.

He categorically has to show he can coach, not just use a revolving door of players to excuse him from £6m a year.

He has to demonstrate he can coach a different system and use the players he has.

Mark Cranney
29 Posted 25/09/2017 at 02:29:57
It's funny reading some of the comments coming back and forth: too old, not worth the money, can't get a game, slow and and how slow we play etc etc etc.

Let's firstly look at the change of manager... give him a chance – he's been here 5 minutes. He's better than the previous two managers. Now there were two slow defensive, park-the-bus style managers, ohhh and they brought, oh that's right, next to bloody no-one in who wasn't either old, slow or crap.

The team has changed 10 fold not only in the 1st team but also in the youth coming through and challenging the more stable players for the starting place.

Tom Davies was amazing when he came on and was the driving force behind the come back... and Niasse well done pal. You have taken a lot of crap but kept your head down and worked like a mad man and the 3 goals in two games says it all. £13.5 million and how you all gave him crap only last season..

I am sure that there are definitely going to be some ups and downs this season but get behind your team and brace yourselves. We've only just started this season – Jesus, I could understand if it was February.

James Stewart
30 Posted 25/09/2017 at 02:50:44
No no no. Not the player we need. What happened to a manager working with the players he's got? Calvert-Lewin, Sandro and Niasse are more than capable.
Jay Harris
31 Posted 25/09/2017 at 04:10:15
Never mind too late for a Plan B. We should have had a Plan C and D ready to go too.

We lost Kone and Valencia (okay I know) and we could and should have had other options like Defoe, Inheacho, Batshuayi, Josh King lined up.

I still don't know why we didn't offer all the Lukaku money for Vardy and Mahrez.

I feel £40m would be wasted on Giroud in January as we will get the lad back from Anderlecht in The summer and Calvert-Lewin is improving rapidly by the game.

If were gonna splash big on players lets splash it on players who can make a big difference and will be part of the future.

Liam Reilly
32 Posted 25/09/2017 at 08:34:21
£40M is crazy money for Giroud, there's better value out there and Walsh needs to earn his stripes.
Ian Burns
33 Posted 25/09/2017 at 08:42:29
Please Koeman, stop spending the club's money on the wrong players. Take a deep breath; take a look at your tactics; take a look at your team selections and I promise it will dawn on you that we are lacking in pace and speed of thought in moving the ball forwards (you know towards the other team's goal!).

Give Calvert-Lewin, Niasse and Sandro the comfort of knowing they will get more playing time before a decision on the right type of forward is made. Oh, by the way... it is not Giroud!

James Newcombe
34 Posted 25/09/2017 at 08:48:41
We can do much better (and younger) for £40m, even in this stupid market.
Jason Pullen
35 Posted 25/09/2017 at 08:49:48
I find it amusing this journo knows we will bid again, knows how much, and knows both Arsenal and Giroud (and his missus) will all say Yes.

He's very well informed.

John G Davies
36 Posted 25/09/2017 at 08:51:33
Jason, me too.

Calm down, lads... it's paper gossip.

Pat Waine
37 Posted 25/09/2017 at 10:03:38
I agree, we need speed. Giroud doesn't have that but is very good at holding up the ball. I wouldn't pay £40m for him with no sell-on value... we have done that already with Sigurdsson and Bolasie. Overpaid and no sell-on value.

I think Koeman has lost the plot. I can't understand what his plan in any game is. Is that the plan? We don't look like a team. And we didn't last season. The way we play is slow and lacking invention. We need a playmaker – a real one.

Williams is not up to it and Holgate I am not sure about but at least he is young. I think I would have a go at Sturridge if we could get him cheap and if he was fit.

Brian Porter
38 Posted 25/09/2017 at 10:07:46
Will (#2), what makes you think Niasse will be gone in January? The lad is just beginning to show what he can do, and even if we sign a new striker we still need strength in depth if we intend to mount a serious challenge for any kind of silverware over the next two seasons.

If Niasse has racked up a decent goal tally by Christmas, becoming a fan favourite along the way, I doubt even Clueless Koeman would be daft enough to try and offload him again, particularly as it seems clear that Niasse is happy to be an Evertonian, and is prepared to fight for his place – exactly the kind of attitude I remember Koeman saying he wanted from his players last season.

Chris James
39 Posted 25/09/2017 at 10:30:16
Good to see the expert armchair managers out in force again; surprised we haven't seen any outrage at the repeated failure to secure Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo – oh sorry, I forgot we wouldn't want the latter as at 32 he's well past it.

All I can say is thank fuck our club isn't managed by referendum, the way it appears our country is right now.

Mike Allen
40 Posted 25/09/2017 at 10:30:53
Short-term waste of money. Also, it will stall the progress of Calvert-Lewin who must be the first-choice No 9. If there is nothing better than Giroud knocking around for £40m, then save your money. No more panic buys, please.

Niasse could score 10 to 15 goals given the chance, plus the coaches need to get to work on Sandro – what is his best position? Play Rooney as second striker or don't play him. And play Sigurdsson as the No 10 if that's his best position.

Play the best of what we have and stop fucking about with systems just to give someone a game. Drop one or two into the U23s and let Unsworth work on them for a couple of games. If a couple go down, a couple come up. Just don't buy Giroud.

Shaun McGough
41 Posted 25/09/2017 at 10:41:24
I would rather have Sanchez who wants to leave Arsenal for £40 million, even if he has only got six months on his contract.
Tony Graham
42 Posted 25/09/2017 at 12:40:34
Well I think the Premier League is all fitness and pace these days...

Sorry but slow and old don't do it anymore.

Nicholas Ryan
43 Posted 25/09/2017 at 12:51:33
So, Giroud would cost 3 times what Niasse cost; not sure about that.
Steavey Buckley
44 Posted 25/09/2017 at 13:00:01
Koeman's footballing model for this club is not working. He is paying inflated prices for footballers with no sell-on fee, even when these players have little pace or power, in the hope they may do something in the short-term by neglecting the long-term footballing needs. Yet, he has to rely upon Niasse for goals – a player he insulted by neglecting him in the past.

Can't Everton find sensible managers who have forwarding planning with astute purchases?

Jim Harrison
45 Posted 25/09/2017 at 13:12:48
Nicholas (#40), Giroud scored 16 goals last season. In limited performances. Niasse has scored 2 so far and has no history to back up that he will continue to do so.

Plus, this is paper talk. If Everton were really offering £40 million, don't you think they would have done already, and Arsenal would have bitten their hand off!

Don Alexander
46 Posted 25/09/2017 at 13:43:03
Neglecting the future by signings like Lookman, Calvert-Lewin, Onyekuru, Adeniran, Vlasic and others I suppose Steavey? Not to mention Pickford, Sandro, Klaassen and Keane.

The cock-up is the abject failure by someone other than Koeman to sign what's required up front and at left-back. Effectively that's likely to cost us one season out of the famed three-year Champions League project.

God (and Jim White) knows what Mr Moshiri's thinking about it all.

Richard Reeves
47 Posted 25/09/2017 at 13:55:40
I hope this isn't true. It would tell me that Moshiri is backing Koeman for the long term. I would prefer the money invested in younger players for the next manager to work with after Koeman is shown the door hopefully as soon as possible.

As Steavey (#41) say's, it isn't a football or business model that work's. Most (if not all) players need to have an increase in transfer value as it is the main source of transfer funds for whoever we have as manager.

Matthew Williams
48 Posted 25/09/2017 at 14:12:07
No thanks... stick with what we got for now up front.

If we're spending £40 million in January, then go for Mee of Burnley & Mooy of Huddersfield... a classy, young left centre-back with great distribution & a battling Midfielder who can spot a pass & hardly ever gives the ball away (reminds me of Carsley & Gravesen,combined).

If Giroud joins, we'll just keep lumping it long all game & lose possession... sigh.

Steavey Buckley
49 Posted 25/09/2017 at 14:14:30
Don: Martinez left Everton with players he bought and brought on worth over £200 million in today's market. Koeman, on the other hand, for short-termism, has bought players worth nearly £200 million for little to show, many with little sell-on value.

Yet, Martinez was castigated by most Everton fans but only spent about £60 million. One of those players, Lukaku, cost £27 million and was sold for £90 million. Should have been more like £150 million, according to Mourinho.

Steven Astley
50 Posted 25/09/2017 at 14:44:52
It'll be interesting to see if Onyekuru features this Wednesday night as Anderlecht take on Celtic at home in the Champions League. Decent (average Premier League fodder) opposition to base any performance off.

He's already bagged 4 goals in 9 appearances... recall in January perhaps?

Steve Ferns
51 Posted 25/09/2017 at 15:00:08
Not possible, Steven. He will come in the summer.
Phil Smith
52 Posted 25/09/2017 at 16:01:44
No chance. If he didn't come at the start of the season, there is no hope in hell he'll come mid-season.

The situation hasn't changed – Everton is still in Liverpool and not in London, last time I checked.

Simon Smith
53 Posted 25/09/2017 at 16:38:53
£40M? No thanks, maybe he has had a sit down with his wife and said,

"Look dear, Liverpool is not that bad a place to live and just think what we could buy in the area. I'm sure you'd fit in with the Cheshire set and get a place on that housewife thing you watch when I'm out training"!

For me, I'd be looking to get Vardy in – pace to burn and knows where the net is.

Ray Roche
54 Posted 25/09/2017 at 17:05:51
Steavey Buckley (#48),

Interesting argument about Martinez and his players value. Pity we were playing relegation fodder football with the worst home record in our history during his last season.

Brian Harrison
55 Posted 25/09/2017 at 17:09:14
If we pay £40 million for Giroud in Jan,uary then we will have lost the plot completely. Added to the £45 million we spent on Sigurdsson, £24 million for Klaassen. And for me Tom Davies is as good as the pair of them and will get even better – the other two won't.

David Foster
56 Posted 25/09/2017 at 17:25:27
So the Costa story and the Giroud story suddenly surface after we've had a disastrous start to the season... just more smoke and mirrors from Everton Football Club.
Steven Astley
57 Posted 25/09/2017 at 18:37:58
Steve and Phil – I wouldn't rule out anything. He's our player.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what happens as he looks likely to start against Celtic.

Colin Glassar
58 Posted 25/09/2017 at 18:46:41
He turned us down for the bright lights so he can get lost and rot on his posh, north London bench as far as I'm concerned.

If this player is so shallow, we are better off telling him, and his bird, to fuck off!!

Martin Mason
59 Posted 25/09/2017 at 18:49:26
He is a very good player but unfortunately not what we need. Massive skill but down on pace and so much money for a 31-year-old.
Martin Mason
60 Posted 25/09/2017 at 18:56:57
Steavey @44

Koeman is Head Coach, he has nothing to do with financial strategy or buying and selling players other than identifying his requirements.

In terms of club finance, I believe that sell-on prices are not relevant as the purchase price is amortised over the contract duration with no future value.

Steve Ferns
61 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:01:09
Where do you get that from, Martin. We might have a Director of Football, but it is clear that Walsh can only sign players that Koeman sanctions.

Koeman has the final word. He just doesn't do everything like Moyes used to, but that was an outdated model.

Davy Klaassen for one, Koeman scouted him by attending no less than three Ajax games last season.

Brian Hennessy
62 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:03:13
Too much money for him.

If we seriously bid £75 million for Costa, (which I doubt) we should be in for Cavani in January but I wont hold my breath.

Each passing day it looks like we massively under valued Lukaku even at the final figure of £90 million.

Dermot Byrne
63 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:04:42
It's Grim Up North. Colin, his "posh, north London bench".

"Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half-an-hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

Martin Mason
64 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:28:37
Steve @60, that is not correct.

Koeman is Head Coach not a manager in the true sense.

Walsh as director of football is responsible for all transfers based on requests from Koeman and he answers to the board and not Koeman.

Koeman has an input and can make recommendations but he doesn't sign players and has no status to sanction deals. He has no input on transfer fees, or contracts.

Darren Hind
65 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:33:40

And you got this from where?

Dermot Byrne
66 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:35:22
Darren – same place you, me and rest get the opinions we spout.
Martin Mason
67 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:41:20
Darren, I have explained it all on previous threads and am not going to do it all again. What I have described is exactly how a Club organisation with a Director of Football and Head Coach works and you need to do the research rather than asking me to keep doing it.

Can you not see why Koeman was playing golf in Portugal on TDD? He had no influence at all, the business was being done by Walsh and Koeman.

Dermot, I find out the reality then post and never spout. When you show me to be wrong, I will accept it.

John Pierce
68 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:49:59
Easy to bid large sums of money for players we have little chance of landing.

Looks good sure but feels very much like these stories are there to salve our fevered brow and lessen the ire towards our head coach. Everton's PR in full swing?

Just try to win games with a recognised pattern of play that involves attacking. Please, for the love of... insert your favoured word.

Colin Glassar
69 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:50:29
No they wouldn't, Dermot.
Colin Metcalfe
70 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:57:58
Tell you what: for the £45M we paid for Sigurdsson £20M more and we could've put an offer in for Morata who looks a snip at £63M!

Not that he would want to come to us but the boy does look class!

Dermot Byrne
71 Posted 25/09/2017 at 19:58:16
Lol Col
Paul Tran
72 Posted 25/09/2017 at 20:12:35
I think there's more chance of me playing up front for us next January.
David Hallwood
73 Posted 25/09/2017 at 20:43:24
Sorry, if a player doesn't want to come to a club because they want to be in London, then they're tourists. A player is either ambitious and in the case of Giroud it should because he's a bench-warmer and always will be at Arsenal.

He's given up the chance to be playing every week – putain lui, as they (probably wouldn't) say in French

Jay Tee
74 Posted 25/09/2017 at 20:48:49
Giroud, vous ne voulez pas ici, restez à Londres
Colin Glassar
75 Posted 25/09/2017 at 20:55:32
Is that a oui or a non, Jay?
John Daley
76 Posted 25/09/2017 at 21:00:14
He may not get involved in contract negotiations or haggling over a fee, but Koeman clearly has more of a role than merely "identifying requirements", before reclining in a lazy boy to play the fleshy jazz flute while Walsh is left to handle all the juicy business of player pursuit.

After signing for Everton, Klaassen stated it was Koeman who did the chasing. That he heard from a number of people that Koeman wanted him. That he spoke to Koeman after he had watched him in several games. That Koeman has a house round the corner from his own and he was invited round, whereupon Ron outlined his 'vision' and convinced the player to sign, despite very nearly poisoning him with a fucking Vesta chow mein.

Chad Schofield
77 Posted 25/09/2017 at 21:05:41
Please God no.
Kim Vivian
78 Posted 25/09/2017 at 21:08:05
I'm okay with the prospect of Giroud. We've got pace if Koeman chooses to use it and I think he could dovetail well with our youngsters and/or Niasse.

What I am uncool about is the rumoured £40m. There are surely other options at that price.

George Cumiskey
79 Posted 25/09/2017 at 22:12:04
Do some people on ToffeeWeb actually believe that Koeman isn't involved in transfers?

That blue Bill and Walsh pick the players pay the transfer money then bring the players to Koeman and say,

"Here you are Ronald here's a couple of players we've bought, fit them into the team will you!"

Don Alexander
80 Posted 25/09/2017 at 22:53:28
George, what I suspect is that Koeman at some point leading up to, and then going into, summer, named certain players to Walsh and whoever is actually involved in the signing process.

I'd expect Walsh and/or that individual/s to have had a budget disclosed to them by Moshiri or his appointed one. It'd be up to the signers-on to manage recruitment of make the bollocks of it which in my view they definitely did.

But who knows in the Kremlin-like world of the Goodison boardroom?

Steve Ferns
81 Posted 26/09/2017 at 01:47:33
You do know Koeman is the one who insisted on a Director of Football as part of his terms before he signed. The Director of Football can answer to the manager; he does not have to answer directly to the board.

Koeman is in charge here, he signs off on everything, he just doesn't want to do the hard work in hammering out the financials and so.

Oh and he leaves the training ground by 4:00 pm every non-match day – it is not like Moyes, Martinez and most who went before them, where they spend every waking hour living and breathing Everton FC.

When we first appointed Koeman, most said it would make a refreshing change; I wonder how many agree with that now?

Peter Jansson
82 Posted 26/09/2017 at 02:07:29
We need a fast striker! Not a slow 30-year-old!
Will Mabon
83 Posted 26/09/2017 at 05:05:07
Maybe it's rumour, maybe it isn't.

From a Koeman interview with the BBC after the Bournemouth game:

"...and to play more, a little bit more direct than normally we play."

Indirect play is normal. I wouldn't expect to see too often, what we saw when Davies and Niasse came on. Certainly not as a starting set up or tactical intent. Fast attacking football is only Koeman's rescue card.

Expect a donkey in January... and out with the racehorses.

Darren Hind
84 Posted 26/09/2017 at 05:10:59
I'll try again...


Just so we know you are not spouting nonsense with your usual degree of certainty... Where did you hear this?

Have you seen their job descriptions, or the job description of anybody else employed by a football club? Are you suggesting that all Managers, coaches and Directors of Football have the same remit, no matter which club they work for?

And how do you explain JD's post @75?

Will Mabon
85 Posted 26/09/2017 at 05:27:31
"Will (#2), what makes you think Niasse will be gone in January?"

I don't trust Koeman is why, Brian. I don't trust him to change any more of his own personal experiment in slow, dour, safety, God-knows-what football than he is absolutely forced to.

I think, if we climb up the Premier League a way and he thinks he has people onside with him and his project, he'll finish the job of sabotaging any chance of fast flowing football.

James Morgan
86 Posted 26/09/2017 at 09:11:14
I like Giroud and really wanted him in the summer but I feel we've moved on from him now and should look elsewhere. The guy wasn't desperate to come and there must be other younger, pacier options out there.

I like the idea of a big target man to get on the end of Sigurdsson's set pieces but let's explore other ideas now.

James Marshall
87 Posted 26/09/2017 at 10:41:13
John @75

Can you please verify your sources with regard to your comments about Vesta chow mein poisoning?

Denis Richardson
88 Posted 26/09/2017 at 10:49:57
I see we're rumoured to be after Cavani.

Fuck me, would that be a good signing! (Not sure he'd want to join us mind you.)

Live in hope...

Geoff Lambert
89 Posted 26/09/2017 at 10:52:30
Andrew (#8) – my two choices as well.

Both got pace to burn and can score plenty of goals.

James Marshall
90 Posted 26/09/2017 at 10:56:33
We have money, and alleged ambition = linked with every striker out there.

Reality = Oumar Niasse.

Paul A Smith
91 Posted 26/09/2017 at 10:58:35
George (#78), I find that funny too. Almost as funny as fans thinking they know the definition of Director of Football. Because of Monchi, I think loads of people believe it's the same role at every club.
Brian Wilkinson
92 Posted 26/09/2017 at 15:44:47
Mark @29, I disagree with Ronnie being better than the last two managers, Moyes has had his fair share of criticism and the way he left us and the "knife at a gunfight" comment, in Moyes's defence, he stabilised this club, bought with the limited sources he had available, nowhere near the amount our current manager has available, he had to do what he could against the big clubs.

One thing with Moyes's team, they were always fit and regardless who we played, the opposition never got an easy ride and had to fight to the death to be sure of a result.

Sadly for Moyes he arrived at the wrong time when we were on our arse, no pot to piss in but brought some fantastic players in and got us out of our previous fight against relegation.

It would have been interesting had we got Moshi ten years earlier and given Moyes the amo he needed to compete. By all means we can be aggrieved by the "knife to a gunfight" comment and the way he left the club, but at the same time be thankful of him stabilising our club.

Ray Smith
93 Posted 26/09/2017 at 15:55:51
I believe Giroud turned us down because his wife didn't want to move to Merseyside! (I might be wrong, but that was his initial excuse.)

So what has changed in the meantime? Media hype methinks!

Cavani would show our intent to go to the next level, but again, would he want to come? I doubt it, but I can always dream!

Tony Marsh
94 Posted 26/09/2017 at 16:18:40
Brian @92

Are you having a laugh about Moyes? Please tell me you are on the wind-up. 11 years under Moyes – we never won an away game at any of the then big 4. Moyes bottled every big game we played. We survived one season in the Premier League with the lowest points tally ever. Any other season, we would've dropped into the Championship. Add to this the lowest goals tally in the club's history.

The year we finished 4th under Moyes it was basically Walter Smith's side. Moyes went out in the January and bought James "Lard Arse" Beattie when both Darren Bent and Dean Ashton were both available and both on fire at the time. We lost to Villarreal over 2 legs with the most negative approach and awful side ever seen in the Champions League. We then rolled over in Bucharest in the Europa League. Moyes should've been sacked that season 2004-05.

David Moyes was awful and one of the reasons Wayne Rooney left so quickly. Rooney couldn't get into Moyes's side. "Knives to a gunfight" mentality for 11 years dragged the club and the fans into a state of apathy and resignation. We stunk Goodison out every week and surrendered to Liverpool when ever it mattered.

Please, mate.... move on from the Ginger loser. Half the problem why our fans are so dumbed down these days is because of the Moyes years.

Grant Rorrison
95 Posted 26/09/2017 at 16:19:36
Brian 92. Yeah, I often wonder what Moyes would have done if he had some top strikers like Van Persie, Rooney, Wellbeck and Hernandez instead of the shite he had to make do with here.
Michael Kenrick
96 Posted 26/09/2017 at 16:30:49
Thanks, Tony (#94). I was having quite a nice day until you regurgitated all those horrific memories of the Ginger Mingebag.

Still, there's no stopping his ardent lovers from dreaming of what might have been... Do you remember how they clamoured for him to be given his chance to manage a "Big Club"? That went down well, as I recall.

Paul Ellam
97 Posted 26/09/2017 at 16:36:23
Giroud would be good but not for that price.

Who else would people like? Benteke? Williams? (Bilbao) Dost? (Sporting) Dembele? (Celtic).

I've read today we're meeting with PSG to try get Cavani!!! Surely that has to be a joke?

Ray Smith
98 Posted 26/09/2017 at 18:45:30
Until we pay top 4 prices, we won't get top 4 players, end of.

It will take someone like Cavani to be used as bait for others to follow, until then forget it.

I've said it before: we talk the talk but don't walk it.

Darren Alexander
99 Posted 26/09/2017 at 22:09:29
Hell, no. I would have taken him on deadline day on loan, although that's no recommendation. He's a bit player in a side that's a million miles away from the best teams Wenger's had in his time there. But £40 million? A quarter of that would be plenty.

He's over 30, and an immobile lummox to boot - perhaps the manager sees him as the final piece in his quest to have a completely static, pace-free side?

We'd be better off seeing how our £13.5 million striker fares in the meantime, but I think this would be not so much a terrible move, but rather a terrible waste of money.

The board need to think carefully from now on before issuing Koeman, Walsh, or AN Other more funds to piss up the wall, as we can all see how far our summer spending spree has got us.

Will Mabon
100 Posted 27/09/2017 at 02:35:21
"The board need to think carefully from now on before issuing Koeman, Walsh, or AN Other more funds to piss up the wall, as we can all see how far our summer spending spree has got us."


Kev Johnson
101 Posted 01/10/2017 at 22:24:38
Can't see it to be honest; I don't think Ron will be here come January.

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