The Board had made the Portuguese their top target and were willing to pay £10m in compensation to Watford to release their manager just 12 games into his two-year contract but the Hertfordshire club refused to allow Silva to discuss the vacancy with the Blues.
The Independent claim that Everton will not press the matter further unless Silva resigns as Watford boss.
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1 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:26:50
2 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:28:33
3 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:34:20
4 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:35:14
5 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:35:32
6 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:38:15
I'm worried. I like Unsworth but he has shown signs already that this may be too much for him too soon. The starting line up vs Palace away was a very naive set of choices.
We face West Ham in the last game of the season, I just hope that we don't go into that fixture with the winner staying up and the loser going down
7 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:38:26
8 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:40:35
9 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:41:21
10 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:42:38
11 Posted 22/11/2017 at 20:52:23
12 Posted 22/11/2017 at 21:03:06
13 Posted 22/11/2017 at 21:09:21
14 Posted 22/11/2017 at 21:10:05
Be it a long-term solition, or a stop-gap, we need some sort of movement soon or we are in deep shit.
15 Posted 22/11/2017 at 21:13:03
We can even select from a range of tactical approaches on a secure site.
Dyche, really? Moyes with laryngitis
16 Posted 22/11/2017 at 21:57:20
17 Posted 22/11/2017 at 21:57:43
18 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:06:44
I'd rather they took their time if they can't get their number one choice than panic and appoint the wrong person.
Would you rather they did what West Ham did and appoint someone quickly.......... the likes of Moyes for fuck's sake?
19 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:16:22
20 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:19:34
Disappointed that it looks like we won't get Silva... and they way I see it, he was the only manager we approached. Big Sam... Pulis, the ginger whinger... no thanks.
21 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:24:55
I just have no faith that the people making the choice have any expertise in choosing an appropriate replacement managers.
22 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:28:09
23 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:33:38
Laurent Blanc is an interesting one. I thought he got sacked for being crap. Yet he only lost 15 out of 172 games at PSG. He's got 4 league titles (1 at Bordeaux and 3 at PSG). Internationally, losing in the QF to Spain is no disgrace, but it cost him his job.
I'd say he was a little of out our league, but he's been out of a job 18 months, maybe he might be interested. I do recall he was terribly defensive though. No doubt someone will call him the French Moyes!
Interesting shout, regardless, Tony.
Done some more digging. He was brilliant at PSG in Ligue 1, but was sacked for his failure to get past the QF of the CL for three consecutive years.
24 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:41:02
Watford is basically a shop. Everything is for sale. They buy players cheap and sell them on for a profit, and the owners pocket it all.
The owners are the Pozzo family. Italians who own a portfolio of clubs and have a massive scouting network that all of the clubs tap into. The have a club in Italy (Udinese), Spain (Girona), and another I forget where.
Sure they want to have some success. But their ownership is about player development to make a profit. So, it is a big surprise they don't want to sell their manager. Or maybe the Pozzo's are driving a hard bargain and now they will come back to Everton with a proper figure.
25 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:42:06
26 Posted 22/11/2017 at 22:47:49
Now the fans are blaming the Board for failing to appoint a suitable replacement. Bad timing indeed but hardly the Board's fault if there's a paucity of decent candidates.
We're not an embarrassment for wanting to get it right. Just watch what WBA do and see if speed of action leads to a good appointment.
27 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:12:58
If they let him go for whatever fee then business as usual. Let's try them with an offer of £20 million pounds. How serious are we? On player development and selling them. It's not far off our model.
28 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:18:32
They do want some level of success and won't bleed Watford dry. In fact, Watford will be a very healthy club when they sell up. But it is foolish to think that they will cling on to their best assets, as that goes against their modus operandi.
29 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:27:41
30 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:35:07
31 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:41:28
32 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:46:30
Ever heard the saying “A bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing”.
Keep the beautiful game simple!
33 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:48:48
34 Posted 22/11/2017 at 23:56:04
Keep Unsworth in the job till the end of the season. No club will part with a manager right now. It's not the right time. Why would they? We can get on with getting our season back on track by sticking. I'm not a huge fan of some of the things Unsworth has tried but not Pep or Jose, or Jesus could do much better with the mess he has inherited.
Walsh needs to sort this out. Get rid of the crap and find better players, not worse.! This January Walsh needs to earn his salary. Not go out looking at players for the Under-23s. Who was in charge or shaping the team?? It's a complete joke. And I don't blame Kenwright. I blame Walsh.
35 Posted 23/11/2017 at 00:32:30
Arent Girona part of the Man City franchise?
36 Posted 23/11/2017 at 00:50:30
The Spanish club the Pozzos owned was Granada, but I think they have recently sold it.
37 Posted 23/11/2017 at 00:59:41
Either pay the money or walk away. We either want him orcwe do not. Everyday we prevaricate, our hand weakens.
Be decisive not dithering. You control the situation and can move forward. Atm we are in limbo.
Appoint Unsworth and make clear overtures to the number 1 target for the summer.
38 Posted 23/11/2017 at 01:18:51
39 Posted 23/11/2017 at 01:36:50
40 Posted 23/11/2017 at 06:42:27
41 Posted 23/11/2017 at 07:14:14
We have a solid enough caretaker in Unsworth who at least has the players showing some fight.
I was excited by Silva but looks unlikely now. Blanc is an interesting call, Tuchel would be great and I could just about get on board with Dyche. Rangnick, Mancini, Pellegrini and Fonseca might all bring something useful to the table.
I would prefer the board make a good decision rather than a quick one.
42 Posted 23/11/2017 at 07:31:43
The naysayers who continually bang on about Rhino not being up to the task are tedious. Like an argument as a child when you continually just say 'can't' a thousand times and your mate says 'can'.
We've got rid of Martinez and Koeman in less than two seasons; the next appointment needs to be right and needs time or we will emulate Aston Villa.
43 Posted 23/11/2017 at 07:37:43
Me personally, I think Silva will resign. We will pay big money for him; let's hope he lives up to the hype.
44 Posted 23/11/2017 at 08:03:29
If David Unsworth can get us another 4/6 against Southampton d and West Ham w , next week , I think he should be given it until the end of the season.
I think this would prove he can guide us to safety. Especially and essentially with the quality reinforcements early January.
Options (including David) can then be assessed in a less rushed way and a better long term decision made.
Poor results in the next 2 games and we will,look like a rubber dinghy in an Arctic Storm.
They will need to get someone in to steady the ship or we will be sunk.
45 Posted 23/11/2017 at 08:45:31
Steve? You seem to know these guys inside out.
46 Posted 23/11/2017 at 08:51:19
And on the balance of probability it won't work out beyond 5 years tops - so in effect we'd be paying £9M+ a year for him!
47 Posted 23/11/2017 at 09:05:19
48 Posted 23/11/2017 at 09:10:30
If that is not the master plan then the conclusion is that we are in a big mess. Sacking Koeman and not having a plan would lead be very weird.
49 Posted 23/11/2017 at 09:30:38
We cannot lose to Southampton this weekend with the derby coming up.
It sucks about Niasse but Sandro might finally get a chance and show why he is so highly rated.
50 Posted 23/11/2017 at 09:49:46
He obviously would like to talk to us but I think he doesnt want to walk out so soon after joining Watford. Time and candidates are now running out, and how many would take it knowing they were 3rd choice at best. Soon we will be into the hectic Xmas run of games quickly followed by the transfer window.
For a new man to come in maybe not knowing this league and having to asses what he has got here, then to try and get the team playing his way would be massively difficult. So I think our best option is to appoint Unsworth. This would stabalize the club as you can bet that there will be a few of our players instructing their agents to be on the look out for a new club come January. So if we appoint Unsworth now he and Walsh can decide which strikers they go for and start talking to those players agents now.
This has been hopefully a lesson to Moshiri if you are going to sack a manger make sure you have his replacement ready to go. As Everton will not come out of this with any credit whoever ends up as the manager.
51 Posted 23/11/2017 at 09:55:09
Hopefully he follows Niasse's harrying and pressing example because as Oumar has shown, you don't need to be Messi to bag a couple of goals.
52 Posted 23/11/2017 at 10:05:29
I just don't think he has that centre forward positional sense like Niasse has. Niasse is no Messi, but he pops up at the right time and is a bit of an unpredictable nightmare for defenders.
Sandro, in the Premier League, is a bit more manageable.
53 Posted 23/11/2017 at 10:32:38
54 Posted 23/11/2017 at 10:43:01
55 Posted 23/11/2017 at 10:49:45
Alternatively we've got Mirallas who can play that role. It defeats me as to why he has never been given an opportunity to show us that. After all, that is where he played at Olympiakos and he must have been doing something right to get our attention back then.
With the result of tonight's game having no importance other than as a confidence booster one of those options could be worth a spin today. I do not think that would be too controversial under the circumstances.
56 Posted 23/11/2017 at 10:56:45
They turned to Silva, but as hes under contract and Watford are playing hard ball, so they cant get him either. Another week gone.
All looking pretty bleak.
But theres one person whos very keen and thats Unsworth, problem is he isnt the right man because hes unproven as a manager of a top league club.
57 Posted 23/11/2017 at 10:59:05
58 Posted 23/11/2017 at 11:13:53
59 Posted 23/11/2017 at 11:21:26
There is a definite truth in the links with him because it's still there. He may have a contract until 2020 but Atletico are about to go out of the Champions League group stages and Griezmann might leave.
I'm sick of our own fans let alone the media and the big boys thinking that we are a nothing club with no history, good players and a promising future.
The Premier League is the most watched in the world and is the most competitive. Simeone has definitely heard of us and might like the challenge at Goodison.
Why must we always settle for mediocre managers who haven't won stuff or ever will. Why must we only look at the British and Irish market.
60 Posted 23/11/2017 at 11:26:21
61 Posted 23/11/2017 at 11:46:16
Nothing is changing under Kenwright's stewardship. We may be able to offer a top salary to managers but the best managers will also want to prove themselves at the highest level which is the Champions League which is why Simeone won't come to Everton. There will be other clubs here and abroad after his signature.
Don't get fooled by what you read.
62 Posted 23/11/2017 at 13:05:29
63 Posted 23/11/2017 at 13:16:15
The German has now distanced himself from our advances apparently.
For all of those wishing, or praying for Simeone...
What are we waiting for? Dyche could always change his surname to Dichio in honour of the erstwhile Sunderland & West Brom goal machine, would having an Italian slant make him more acceptable?
64 Posted 23/11/2017 at 13:43:08
65 Posted 23/11/2017 at 13:54:25
Just give it to Unsworth, let him get on with it. No, not because he's one of us, but because, if we are going for the likes of Silva, then why not Unsworth and let's end the stupid name-dropping speculation.
66 Posted 23/11/2017 at 13:55:47
67 Posted 23/11/2017 at 14:05:17
Talking of which, Martin O'Neill is available.
68 Posted 23/11/2017 at 14:44:13
We can bandy around names as much as we like, but unless we pay a lot of money out, we aren't going to get any top manager. The team is a mix of young and inexperienced players and players who sadly have had their day. We also have the disaster buys of the summer.
This is crisis management defined. I have never thought we would get the drop and still don't, we are however looking mid table. Its been a horrendous year for the club with injuries and change. What we need now is a firm hand, and strong support.
No top manager is going to come here at the present, if it goes wrong they are out and I'm sure all the other pundits on every team site in the country will bring that up when they fail, and are forced out. It does nothing for their CV.
Strong and steady at the moment, unless we have a fortune hiding away for new players, its going to be a long hard season.
I feel really sorry for Unsworth, he has taken this job on, a tremendous leap from what he was doing, and is making a fist of it. The good people of ToffeeWeb should get together and get behind Unsworth and the team, we can have a post mortem in the summer. Now is not the time.
No more foreign mercenaries, to fail and walk away with life changing money. We all know its happened time and time again. Enough is enough. this club is to big to fail.
69 Posted 23/11/2017 at 15:38:39
I'm happy to wait for the summer providing Unsworth keeps picking up enough points to steer us away from trouble. We are in a better position than we were a month ago despite the utter shambles he inherited.
70 Posted 23/11/2017 at 17:42:47
In terms of a managerial appointment, it seems to be coming down to a Hobson's Choice. For me, although I like David Unsworth, he lacks the ability to think differently that marks out the best coaches. It was an open secret that Koeman did not like the staff he inherited at Finch Farm; some, like Unsworth, played the long game and ignored being ignored and waited; others, like Kevin Sheedy, decided not to put up with that nonsense and moved on.
I think we all agree that a lot of good young players have been coming through over the last few years and some of us believe that Sheedy's role in that has been underplayed. Sheedy was a thinking fan's footballer; is he the cerebral coach we need?
There is a view that he may not relish all of the responsibility that the role entails but what if he were given the right support? Thinking outside the box myself, why not bring in Liam Rosenior who, as well as being able still to provide very decent cover in defence, is qualifying as a coach with very high reviews of his performance. Rosenior writes regular thought provoking articles for The Guardian, one of which a while back drew attention to the fact that Silva, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Mourinho would not have been able to show their coaching qualities in their early 30s if they had been English.
Time to be brave enough to take a risk and take NSNO seriously? Sheedy with Rosenior, himself a potentially outstanding coach in his early 30's, as his assistant and ultimately his successor?
71 Posted 24/11/2017 at 22:50:00
The house is in on fire..surely EFC please put this recurring fire out, for good.
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