The Blues' interest in the 21-year-old has already been established but they face competition from Leicester City and Fulham, with the Foxes said to be seriously interested in bringing Maddison to the King Power Stadium.
Maddison is valued at between £20m and £25m.
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1 Posted 11/06/2018 at 18:27:56
With 3 of Sigurdsson, Vlasic, Walcott, Dowell, Lookman and this lad as an attacking 3 with Tosun, Walcott and Calvert-Lewin ahead as No 9 could be exciting and gives more than one option with two solid midfielders behind them.
2 Posted 11/06/2018 at 18:36:13
3 Posted 11/06/2018 at 18:39:07
He is young too, so will get even better, and as Fran says, if he continues to show this form in the Premier League, he will be worth a lot more.
Put it this way, I would rather we had a homegrown talent, than an unknown from abroad, who may or may not hack it.
Some may say, it's only in the Championship where he has performed, it's not that far removed from the Premier League, and a hard League to get promoted from.
Definitely think it's worth it for this kid, and just hope there is mileage in it.
4 Posted 11/06/2018 at 18:51:36
I understand M&M will get together this week to sort out necessary transfer targets, and as I don't believe there are truly psychic journos out there, I'll consider this lazy summer journalism for now!
5 Posted 11/06/2018 at 18:57:44
6 Posted 11/06/2018 at 19:13:41
He's in the Aaron Ramsey mould: quick feet, can pick a short pass around the box, and knows where the net is. I'm excited most about how much he's come on since I saw him in Scotland. He's improved with every level he's played at – not something our group of youngsters can always say.
Could be a good 'un.
7 Posted 11/06/2018 at 19:20:44
8 Posted 11/06/2018 at 19:29:19
He seems to be a tricky, creative type in the Pienaar/Osman mould, which may suit what Silva wants to do with one of his 3 midfielders.
Don't think he'll play as one of the 3 up front – we have too many prospects for these positions already (Vlasic, Dowell, Lookman, Calvert-Lewin with Walcott, Bolasie and Sigurdsson as senior players).
9 Posted 11/06/2018 at 20:33:59
Roberto Firmino cost that lot £29 Million, Salah cost (I think) £38 million.
And then you have Klassen (£25 million), Keane (£25 million) and Gylfi Sigurdsson (£45 million).... Wayne Rooney's wages are a lot more than Salah's. It's pathetic.
10 Posted 11/06/2018 at 20:47:19
He has had a good season – albeit against some poor Championship sides. The fee seems over the top considering he has it all to prove in the Premier League.
Saying that, he looks like he will take the step up and I would rather we were looking at the best young talent than 29- or 30-year-olds.
11 Posted 11/06/2018 at 21:08:18
12 Posted 11/06/2018 at 21:26:36
13 Posted 11/06/2018 at 22:15:11
We can't afford/attract the ready-made top players. And we can't not sign someone considered the best in his league because maybe we have a decent young player, but not quite as good.
I hope Dowell can develop into a top player, and see no reason why the two players can't both develop and play for Everton.
Dele Alli was young, unproven, etc. Spurs already had other young midfielders. Reckon any Spurs fan regrets signing him because it resulted in say, Harry Winks having a tougher time getting in the first team?
14 Posted 11/06/2018 at 22:15:40
15 Posted 11/06/2018 at 22:16:21
16 Posted 11/06/2018 at 22:53:58
It's very easy to get carried away with some of the youngsters, but I've never been overly impressed with Dowell. He obviously has talent and a cultured left foot, but I think the Premier League will prove to be too physical and demanding for him. Our fans would get frustrated with him very quickly.
Maddison looks for the ball the entire match and beats players. He oozes confidence and is exciting to watch. I would love it if we got him in.
In saying that, it's a big step up and of course it's an expensive gamble, but I would bet on him being a big crowd favourite very quickly. And I hope Dowell makes me eat my words.
17 Posted 11/06/2018 at 23:26:38
18 Posted 11/06/2018 at 23:40:47
19 Posted 11/06/2018 at 23:56:28
20 Posted 11/06/2018 at 00:02:31
21 Posted 12/06/2018 at 00:07:07
22 Posted 12/06/2018 at 00:22:42
Norwich were bang average last season and especially disappointing at home. Maddison didn't pull up many trees in the two games I saw in the flesh (well shackled by Everton loanee Joe Williams in one game), but at the same time it's hard not to be impressed by what he's achieved. It's only just over a year since he made his debut, scoring and pointing to his name on his shirt – I disliked him straightaway... but, to be fair, he's backed it up with his performances since.
As someone else said on here, he plays with a swagger, knowing he's the best player on the pitch, and he's clearly been that this season – his rate of development has been astonishing.
He plays as a Number 10, always in the middle; he's a slight, willowy character, always on the move, looking for the ball, and looking to make something happen. He's not quick, but is very good with the ball at his feet, sees a pass or will try and take someone on, and he's very good at free-kicks. A more agile Sigurdsson, if you like, with young Beckham-esque confidence and swagger.
Everyone round here seems resigned to him going; the club needs cash as the parachute payments end; the remaining Murphy twin also seems to be on his way to Cardiff too. Maddison wants to move on (I think he posted one of those showreels).
I don't exactly see where he fits in a 4-3-3 but, if we are keen to sign him, it'd be interesting to send Dowell here on loan as part of the deal – see if he can cut it in a team that would play to his strengths more than a defensive Karanka team.
Re the injury, there's a bit of suspicion that the Canaries may be downplaying the extent of the injury so as not to scupper a deal... who knows?
23 Posted 12/06/2018 at 00:46:50
I'm not sure what point is being made here. Seems like a pretty good description of Dowell, though you neglected to mention the long shots.
24 Posted 12/06/2018 at 01:19:14
25 Posted 12/06/2018 at 05:15:20
26 Posted 12/06/2018 at 06:53:00
Robles – done
Williams – Defence (with his injury, it is unlikely that he can be moved this summer, except maybe as a loan)
Browning – sell
Funes Mori – sell (or if Silva likes the look of him, keep him and buy one less centre-back)
Martina – sell (or Silva may like to keep him and loan out Kenny, which would make sense to me actually)
Garbutt – sell
Schneiderlin – sell
Besic – sell
Klaassen – sell (or loan)
Rooney – sell
Vlasic – sell or loan
Ramirez – sell
Mirallas – sell
Bolasie – sell
If all this happens, then I would be happy with buying:
1 centre-back – Mawson for me
1 left-back – Tierney or Shaw
1 midfielder – Maddison or Wilshere
1 forward – Lozano
GK: Pickford, Stekelenburg, [AN Other (on loan?)]
LB: Baines, Tierney (loan out Robinson)
RB: Coleman, Martina
CB: Jagielka, Keane, Holgate, Mawson, Pennington, Galloway (I think he might thrive under Silva)
DM: Davies, Gana, McCarthy, Banigime
AM: Sigurdsson, Maddison, Dowell
LM: Lozano, Lookman
RM: Walcott, Connolly
CF: Tosun, Calvert-Lewin, Niasse
Another option to increase our attacking options would be to keep Bolasie, not buy Lozano, but break the bank for Vardy:
Coleman Keane Mawson Tierney
Maddison Gana Sigurdsson
Walcott Vardy Lookman
27 Posted 12/06/2018 at 07:35:34
28 Posted 12/06/2018 at 08:58:12
29 Posted 12/06/2018 at 09:11:47
30 Posted 12/06/2018 at 09:28:15
31 Posted 12/06/2018 at 09:35:09
Did anyone hear this? Did he make any comments that would be of interest?
32 Posted 12/06/2018 at 09:43:11
Thank you for such a detailed insight into young Maddison but the only thing that has me concerned is in your 4th paragraph. That could also be an exact description of Osman.
I could never understand why Leon had such a loyal following. Undoubtedly he had a decent first touch and ball skills to go with it but that was about all he had. When he hit a barren patch, which happened often, his fans said he was put in the wrong position.
If he was on the right, they screamed for him to be moved to the left or the middle or further forward or deeper etc etc. No matter what his position he often disappeared completely from the action.
Tom Davies could never be accused of doing that.
33 Posted 12/06/2018 at 09:52:08
He's nothing like Dowell, and you don't see Dowell turning players and regularly beating them. He tends to have tight control and a great touch, which he uses to make space for himself to play a pass or shoot. Dowell has quality, it's undeniable, but he's different and in my opinion behind in his development.
Maddison will twist, turn, nutmeg and then drive forward. He's exciting, and he also strikes the ball very well. I watched Norwich twice last season (on TV): a home win against Sheff Weds and a win at Ipswich. He was the best player on the pitch in both games.
Maybe that's not enough to judge him on, but he stood out and his stats all throughout the season are impressive. He plays like the kid in the park who owns the ball and only goes home when it's dark. He's a joy to watch and works hard.
Dowell will frustrate those that demand hard work and is not ready for the first team, but as Mike and others have said, he has shown quality and maybe can develop the other aspects of his game.
34 Posted 12/06/2018 at 09:57:24
In comparison to Dowell, Maddison last season had comfortably better pass completion (86% to 77%), key passes per game (2.8 to 1.6), successful dribbles (2.4 to 1.3). He also is dispossessed less and perhaps crucially makes more tackles and interceptions showing that he's move involved in the defensive side of the game.
I think he'd be a great addition. There's a premium for talented English youth but, even so, I'd hope we'd get him for £15-20m rather than doing our usual overpay of the last few years.
My only concern is that with the likes of Gueye, Walcott, Lookman, Davies etc we are becoming a rather small team in a very physical league. At 5ft-7in, Maddison is pretty Osman-esque.
35 Posted 12/06/2018 at 10:11:00
36 Posted 12/06/2018 at 10:16:34
Hopefully we'll buy a big, athletic defensive midfielder and centre-back to deal with aerial threats.
37 Posted 12/06/2018 at 10:31:54
Theres no point spending big money on “One for the future” when theres other areas we need to improve first.
38 Posted 12/06/2018 at 11:24:56
39 Posted 12/06/2018 at 11:50:54
40 Posted 12/06/2018 at 12:27:19
I have absolutely no idea if there is any truth in this rumour or not. I just found it strange as to why the Liverpool Echo are running this story yet I haven't seen anything in any of the tabloids regarding this story. Especially them reporting that one of the bookmakers has reported irregular betting activity over this possible transfer.
I always think it's always a bad time when players are away on International duty for a couple of weeks, as they are now with the World Cup. These stories always seem to appear, and players away on International duty will not usually discuss any transfer activity till the competition has finished. But players talk to one another and maybe De Gea has met up with his Spanish teamates and maybe he has said he wouldn't mind joining xxxxxxx club to a player of that club. Then maybe said club have made overtures to De Gea via their own player who knows what goes on.
41 Posted 12/06/2018 at 12:39:20
The Liverpool Echo football section can't be relied upon any more than TalkSport, Sky and all of the red tops when it comes to Everton-related news & gossip. The following snippet comes from today's Everton blog section – did we really qualify for the Champions League this season?
Everton will discover their 2018-19 fixtures on Thursday, when the Premier League announce the schedule for the new season.
Last year, the Blues began at home to Stoke and finished away to West Ham in a campaign which saw them qualify for the Champions League for the second successive season.
42 Posted 12/06/2018 at 12:48:32
Anyway, if Maddison does come, what happens to Sigurdsson? Isn't it one or the other in the No 10 role? And it's not like we need to worry about rotation this season with no European football.
43 Posted 12/06/2018 at 12:50:59
44 Posted 12/06/2018 at 13:06:20
With all the acrimony attached to Silva's appointment, and claims for retrospective compensation from Watford, I think most will now want to know when we play them.
I have read too, that Deulofeu has joined them for the foreseeable future which adds a bit more spice to that fixture.
45 Posted 12/06/2018 at 14:44:05
Says he will be devastated if he goes but understands why it needs to happen. He says he is an absolute gem of a player and expects him to be a regular in the England set up within 12 months.
46 Posted 12/06/2018 at 15:31:03
Given that Watford long ago assumed the tune for their 'entry music', I wonder if Everton should make a plagiarism claim against this most litigious of clubs?!
47 Posted 12/06/2018 at 16:08:15
He is unfairly maligned on these pages, he had more vision and talent than anyone in the current squad.
There's a bloke behind me in the St End who I thought had been struck dumb. But it appears that he has not found a whipping boy since Osman left so his silence is deafening. He'd slag Leon off in the kick in.
48 Posted 12/06/2018 at 16:24:05
Whether that means he'll become a star is always open to the onset of time to decide but for now he's extremely highly thought of round here.
He could definitely turn out to be a great signing for us – I just hope he isn't another one that never gets a game and then we flog him for bugger all.
49 Posted 12/06/2018 at 16:30:31
Who is offering these odds? Well according to Oddschecker, only BetVictor.
And who are BetVictor a “principal partner” of?
You guessed it... Liverpool FC.
50 Posted 12/06/2018 at 16:37:31
51 Posted 12/06/2018 at 16:43:54
52 Posted 12/06/2018 at 17:15:49
While I agree that it could be a load of rubbish, but – if it is Bet Victor offering those odds – their head office is in Gibraltar... next door to Spain.
Also, Julen Lopetegui, the National manager of Spain, has just been appointed the next Real Madrid manager, and his number one choice for Spain is David De Gea. Both will be spending the next few weeks together....
Either somebody has been very clever in spinning this tale, or it might have legs; time will tell.
53 Posted 12/06/2018 at 17:25:39
He will be a top class player.
54 Posted 12/06/2018 at 18:56:27
I don't see all this apprehension just because he is playing in a tough league that's hard to get out of – and at 21 too!
He will only get better and stronger and could be a great signing.
55 Posted 13/06/2018 at 03:58:11
The Echo say the Egyptian to watch is their 105-year-old goalie. I think that we should be watching Hegazi. He can play and he is under the radar. Surely he will not stay at West Brom.
I disagree with those who want to get rid of Vlasic. He is a real athlete and could easily become a utility attacking player who could cover several positions, a valuable asset when you are trying to lower the wage bill.
56 Posted 13/06/2018 at 05:19:16
57 Posted 13/06/2018 at 06:42:52
Silva would need to be a true miracle worker to get these two up to standards expected in reaching the top.
58 Posted 13/06/2018 at 08:01:14
Maddison would be mad to join us... Liverpool will be next season's champions... Man Utd runners up again and Man City to with the Champions League...
What happened to Barkley? Did he play any games for Chelsea?
59 Posted 13/06/2018 at 08:17:42
60 Posted 13/06/2018 at 08:37:52
61 Posted 13/06/2018 at 12:33:07
Lets hope we get him!!
62 Posted 13/06/2018 at 12:48:31
63 Posted 13/06/2018 at 13:34:13
Done his knee at the moment apparently hut he says this will be a brilliant bit of business if we get him.
64 Posted 13/06/2018 at 14:11:15
Wasn't there a dance craze called the Madisson. Oops! Iv'e just remembered a bloke name Jimmy started it.
65 Posted 17/06/2018 at 13:38:25
Feel we can't let this one slip. He'll be a top player.
66 Posted 17/06/2018 at 13:46:47
67 Posted 17/06/2018 at 18:45:23
68 Posted 17/06/2018 at 19:14:42
No matter who the manager is we always seem to take an age to being in the wrong players..
69 Posted 17/06/2018 at 19:29:06
Don't believe all the shite the media peddle then you won't be disappointed.
70 Posted 17/06/2018 at 22:47:27
I like Maddison a lot but weve no idea if Silva and Brands do.
They might, quite sensibly, want to have a closer look at and talk with the players we do have before trying to shift them out on the cheap and taking risks on the next batch.
I dont care how quickly business is done so long as the right decisions are made. Its been a while since weve done that consistently with recruitment.
71 Posted 18/06/2018 at 08:44:12
72 Posted 18/06/2018 at 09:53:55
Tbh, Im not too bothered. Silva needs to get to know his players before making any major decisions, but its a shame to lose these two talented players.
73 Posted 18/06/2018 at 09:54:55
So much for our new transfer experts, eh?
74 Posted 18/06/2018 at 10:07:11
75 Posted 18/06/2018 at 10:45:24
76 Posted 18/06/2018 at 11:27:45
5 years later and he's done okay but not a lot more. 19 goals in 180 matches for Norwich and Southampton is not a great return for a winger/forward.
£20m+ is a decent amount for a championship player who's done nothing in a top league or at international level of note. Personally, I think he looks a cracking little player but only time will tell. Perhaps Dowell will eclipse him.
77 Posted 18/06/2018 at 11:30:00
They tend to say they are too expensive but any player is expensive if he never plays, as has been proven at Everton!
78 Posted 18/06/2018 at 11:37:47
So if we miss out on Maddison, let's not be too disappointed. Whilst he might be a success like Dele Alli he could easily be another McFadden or Redmond. I'd rather we take our time with these players and miss out than charge in and get them wrong and pay well over the odds in doing so. Lessons should be learnt from last summer.
79 Posted 18/06/2018 at 12:09:29
I guess we were always going to have to wait for Brands to finish the season at PSV and make his decision on us. That waiting (which is well worth it for important pieces of the jigsaw) always meant we would be waiting for a manager too and having a slower start to the window as the new team assesses current players and hence transfer needs.
80 Posted 18/06/2018 at 12:37:34
81 Posted 18/06/2018 at 14:03:41
Maddison has the innate self-confidence of a top player; plenty of end-product and popped up with plenty of goals in tight away wins. Disappointed if he ends up at Leicester, but it's a good move for him as he'll play. Shows the utter folly of our transfer dealings last summer – the club's clogged up with players not fit for purpose. It'll take years to undo that. Much better buying younger talent.
Dick @32 – more dynamic than Leon, more end-product, can't underestimate self-belief for a footballer.
Mike, Dick earlier, thanks, you're welcome.
82 Posted 18/06/2018 at 14:42:10
"@Sam - have you compared him with Redmond purely because they both played for Norwich?"
In defence of Sam, he has done no such thing. Rather, he gave the example of Redmond's transfer from Birmingham to Norwich and being disappointed (at that time) that Everton seemingly lost out on a "very talented, technically gifted young player who was going cheap at the time and had a bright future ahead of him [but] 5 years later and he's done ok but not a lot more."
A very valid observation. There are a lot of players of a similar age to Maddison (and Redmond, in his time) who show a great deal of potential and promise which is never fully realised with age. We've had a number at Everton ourselves.
Sam made absolutely no reference to their respective positions or skill sets.
On Maddison himself, other than the usual 5-minute YouTube compilations, I won't pretend I know much about the player. I do know we have a very fine player already on our books with similar skills sets to Maddison, who is a full year younger and has played at every international age group, winning two international tournaments for the national side in the last 12 months, our own Kieran Dowell.
I won't be making any bold statements about how the careers of either Maddison or Dowell may progress in the next 4-5 years, based on what I know.
83 Posted 18/06/2018 at 14:53:19
84 Posted 18/06/2018 at 15:15:01
Sigurdsson is someone who usually plays virtually every game (injury this season excluded). Therefore, it wouldn't be a good idea to have Maddison (or someone similar) sat on the bench watching. Surely Dowell can do that anyway?
85 Posted 18/06/2018 at 15:15:42
There is some validity in Chris's observation, but I can't agree with all he says.
Yes, last year's lottery transfer dealings means Silva and Brands inherit an unbalanced squad, with players 'not fit for purpose' as Chris writes. We are also top-heavy with ageing players creaking past their 'Best Use By' date.
Where I disagree with Chris is when he says "It'll take years to undo that."
Hard as it may be to convince some folk, but we do have some talented players at the club. Before writing all off as a lost cause, how about we wait and see what a modern, hands-on manager can achieve with them?
I have long held a more optimistic view that fortunes can turn around very quickly at a club, with the right personnel in place.
86 Posted 18/06/2018 at 15:22:10
I echo your sentiments that there is a good squad there. It just needs rearranging into a better formation, shape, and style of play. Sure, there's lots of positions to improve in, but the only glaring deficiencies I see are over the quality of the midfield as a whole in passing the ball.
87 Posted 18/06/2018 at 15:49:25
88 Posted 18/06/2018 at 15:54:10
* When in possession, get forward as quickly as possible, ideally through the centre rather than the flanks, and try to create 'player overloads' – a numerically advantage – over the opposition. Recycle the ball to retain possession, rather than cough it up cheaply.
* When out of possession, put pressure on the man in possession, restricting his passing options to going backwards or sideways rather than forward, and squeeze the space the opposition have to play in. Stop crosses coming into your penalty area. Have the striker work the centre-backs to make it difficult to pass out of defence. Have your wide men squeezing the space of their opposition numbers. Ensure a solid defensive base of your back line and defensive midfielders.
Not exactly innovative or rocket science. To play it, the current squad needs to be fitter and more dynamic than in recent seasons. The back four will need to be freshened up with neither Baines nor Jags getting any younger (but capable of 'making do', at least for now), but those two positions (plus an unidentified type of midfielder) is what the Echo reported Silva wants to add.
And I agree with you Steve – it is the midfield that needs most attention to be able to effectively apply Silva's preferred template, based on the video link you sent me. Some of the players are already at the club. I retain reservations that Schneiderlin can have an epiphany under Silva (or anyone, really...) and I'm not convinced as you are that Carvalho will be a major cog either.
But it was interesting viewing.
89 Posted 18/06/2018 at 16:20:34
I am led to believe that Silva's best skills are in getting others to understand the tactics and to buy into it. I think Koeman's tactics were complicated. The players looked confused, and the fans certainly were. Simplicity always works, where the plan is effective, and everyone gives 100%.
The point on Carvalho, is that he is big, strong, can tackle, but mainly that he can pass. I think he's a significant upgrade on Schneiderlin in terms of passing. I think if Schneiderlin does play, we will need Gueye as well, and the crowd would see that as the same old. I think ultimately, and sure both at in their very late 20s now, we need to replace both with better passers of the ball and more dynamic box to box midfielders.
I'd love to get rid of Schneiderlin and Gueye and go with Davies / McCarthy and Doucoure with Sigurdsson just ahead. I don't think that's feasible, and as Carvalho is on a free (court case notwithstanding) then I think signing him is a no brainer (but make sure it's not Sandro type wages!).
90 Posted 18/06/2018 at 16:32:16
Steve, being the keen tactical analyst you are, dunno if you ever used the excellent FourFourTwo Stats Zone app, but it was brilliant. Based on Opta data, it left no room for debate data-wise on what a player did or didn't do in a game.
Unfortunately, 442 retired it at the start of last season and I still pine for it. I haven't found anything that comes close to matching the detail of 442 SZ. If you know of anything, please let me know.
91 Posted 18/06/2018 at 16:40:30
92 Posted 18/06/2018 at 16:45:25
The probable reason he stopped blogging was because the 442 mag retired the app.
I'll check out your suggestions. Cheers.
93 Posted 18/06/2018 at 16:48:35
94 Posted 18/06/2018 at 23:12:00
Jay @82 Thanks for pointing that out - I misread "to" for "at".
Jay, I hope you're right about Dowell, but the fact that he has represented England at every age group makes it more disappointing to me that Maddison has effectively overtaken him this season, partly because Dowell was dropped by an admittedly defensive manager in Karanka. Maybe he just had a dip in form.
I agree that we have some talented players, but we have far too many and they've all been signed on great money and long contracts, and are difficult to move on as a consequence. A bloated squad means young talent is far less likely to sign for us, as competition for players looks horrific on the face of it.
Steve @ 84, "there will be another Maddison next summer, and another the summer after that". Idly flicked through the Championship teams of the year for the last 10 years. #10s that appear are:
- Hoolahan (much older at the time)
- Pritchard (older and ravaged by injury since)
- Taarabt (talented boy, terrible attitude, lifestyle and application)
- Lallana (a very similar player, was 22 when he had a similar stellar season in League ONE, 24 when he did the equivalent to Maddison in the Championship).
I know not every potential player's going to come from the Championship, but thought I'd provide some context anyway.
While I'm here, do you really see Carvalho coping with the pace of the Premier League? Seeing him jogging back while Costa had all the time in the world to twist left and right for his first goal the other night reminded me of Schneiderlin 17/18 vintage. Can't see that being well-received at Goodison...
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