About to score 7,000 top-flight goals?

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I may well have missed this or be wrong as I'm not sure how accurate the all-time table is but I believe that Everton are only 16 goals away from being the first club in world football to score 7,000 league goals.

If this has been missed surely this is a good promotional opportunity for Everton? Who's going to get the 7,000th goal?

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Michael Kenrick
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1 Posted 02/10/2018 at 04:26:44
I checked in with Steve Johnson of Everton Results and Everton – the Official Complete Record.

Steve kindly pointed me to the page where he keeps tabs on this stuff, under Competitions. And sure enough, 6,984 top-flight goals.

Eric Myles
2 Posted 02/10/2018 at 04:39:53
Since football was only invented when the Premier League started, I don't anticipate much publicity from commentators or the media on reaching this milestone.

It's something the Club are going have to promote in player and manager interviews.

Martin Nicholls
3 Posted 02/10/2018 at 05:23:55
A World first? The Club MUST make something of this opportunity to promote itself – for the reasons cited by Eric, I don't expect Sky to recognise this feat when it is achieved but if it is truly unbiased (and I don't believe it is) then surely BBC must?
Dennis Stevens
5 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:59:03
If Allardyce was still Manager we'd be a couple of seasons off reaching the 7,000 goal mark!
Rob Halligan
6 Posted 02/10/2018 at 12:54:53
Interesting stat, Steve. Are we well clear in the race to reach this figure, or are there any other clubs who are close? Celtic or Rangers and Barcelona or Real Madrid must have bagged a few thousand goals during their illustrious histories.
Ognjen Mojovic
7 Posted 02/10/2018 at 16:05:43
@ Rob Halligan: I think that Steve talks about being the first team in English top flight to score 7000 goals. I checked where we stand in comparison to Real Madrid, Barcelona, Celtic and Rangers:

Because La Liga started in 1920s, we are ahead of Real and Barcelona (both less than 6100 league goals):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Liga#All-time_La_Liga_table

On the other hand, we have that Celtic scored more than 10000 league goals, Rangers almost 10000 and Hearts around 7500 league goals:
https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_table/sco-premiership/

Juventus scored just above 6000 league goals and River Plate around 6800.

Ray Roche
8 Posted 02/10/2018 at 16:18:14
Thing is though, Celtic play in Micky Mouse league that has been a one horse procession for years, despite the press and Brenda spouting off about the “Great Achievement” it is to win the Scottish Premier League.

Utter bollocks.

Rob Halligan
9 Posted 02/10/2018 at 16:31:27
Ognjen, I wasn't sure if Steve meant just England or not? In his opening paragraph he states the first club in world football to reach 7000 league goals.

Given the relatively easy league Celtic and Rangers, and to an extent, certainly down the years, Barcelona and Real Madrid are in, I would have thought those clubs would have been nearer or surpassed 7,000 goals.

I will assume Steve meant in the English Football League.

Martin Nicholls
10 Posted 02/10/2018 at 16:40:00
Rob #9 – he probably means major leagues, of which SPL certainly isn't!
Don Alexander
11 Posted 03/10/2018 at 00:33:25
This resonates with me just less than the fact that we had the first ever ground where dug-outs were installed, and I suspect most of the rest of today's football audience will agree with me.
Mike Galley
12 Posted 03/10/2018 at 00:48:21
Don #11,

I couldn't agree more. But when it happens (surely it will? Surely we can score another 16 goals this season?), it will hopefully get mentioned in some media outlets. When it does, the resulting reaction from the RS will, I'm sure, be fun to behold.

On the strength of that, I shall mention it at every possible opportunity!

Tom Hughes
13 Posted 06/10/2018 at 11:43:40
This ranks far higher than the dugouts non-stat (We weren't the first to introduce dugouts), if only to act as a reminder that this club hasn't always been a mediocre non-entity, and perhaps more importantly that ALL of the so called big 6 have spent a large part of their histories being decidely shitter than we've ever been.

That reminder extending to our current custodians, as this might be the last landmark we reach before anyone else, if we don't start winning things again.

John Pickles
14 Posted 07/10/2018 at 09:05:06
If Roberto had still been manager, we would have done it ages ago.

We would have been the first to concede 8,000 though.

Colin Glassar
15 Posted 07/10/2018 at 09:16:57
Yesterday was also our 600th away win in the top flight. We are only the 4th team in football to achieve this record.
Eric Myles
16 Posted 07/10/2018 at 12:31:53
There used to be a time when we were the team with the most number of points in the country. Not so any more.
Matthew Williams
17 Posted 09/10/2018 at 10:24:35
Wouldn't it be real nice if the record was broken with a derby winner!
Drew O'Neall
18 Posted 10/10/2018 at 04:46:00
While we’re top of the all time top flight goal charts, we’re also top of the losses and, probably, goals against charts too, for balance.
Tony Abrahams
19 Posted 22/10/2018 at 21:43:37
It would be very ironic that, Mathew, considering it was our first ground?
Ray Roche
20 Posted 22/10/2018 at 22:20:39
Eric @16

Was that with 3 points for a win or 2?

Steve Ferns
21 Posted 24/10/2018 at 10:42:25
Ray, both. But we slowly lost first the actual points won (obviously skewed in favour of the latter years when wins were worth more) and then both the 3 points for a win and 2 points for a win.

Simply, as Drew states, we've just played far more games than anyone, so we'd won most, drew most, and even lost most!

Link The home and away split is very interesting and with such a large sample size shows just how much better at home we have always been.

Andrew Clare
22 Posted 24/10/2018 at 11:16:19
Eric, that was 30 years ago when we were one of the ‘big five'. We had won more league titles than Man Utd and Arsenal. In that time, they have had unprecedented success while we have had unprecedented failure due to a certain ‘you know who' buying a club he couldn't afford.

Hopefully our failings will be rectified by the current management team.

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 24/10/2018 at 12:02:35
Andrew, it's only in recent seasons (since 2000) that our crown has slipped.
Ray Roche
24 Posted 24/10/2018 at 12:19:12
Steve, it's a shame that we no longer have that proud boast of the “most points” won to go with the “games won”. Still, onwards and upwards, eh?
Tony J Williams
25 Posted 24/10/2018 at 12:42:02
I wonder is Sky will pick up the fact that The Shite are only 17 goals from conceding their 5,000th goal?

It's the same with the 125 years in the top flight a few seasons ago when we had the shite Keijan plastic jersey kit that was supposed to look retro, Sky didn't give a shite then either.

Rob Halligan
26 Posted 24/10/2018 at 12:49:44
Tony, Sky can't even get their facts right about Everton today. I've just been watching Sky Sports News and apparently we are looking for our third consecutive Premier League win this weekend at Man Utd.

Basically, they couldn't give a shit about us. This doesn't bother me though. As long as we keep going and aim for the top six, that will do me. They will then shit themselves when an outsider suddenly takes the place of one of their beloved "top six" teams.

Steve Ferns
27 Posted 24/10/2018 at 13:04:56
Chances of top 6 on the projected table don't look too good. We are currently 19 points off Arsenal. We are up 3 points on last season, but they are up 10 points. The team we are gunning for is clearly Man Utd, but they are down 5 points so far on last season, with a projection of 76 points. We're on a projection of 52 points and so need a further 24 point swing. They're actually bang on course to maintain an 8 point per quarter swing that we need to catch them, but is that really sustainable?

I do think one of the projected top 6 will fall right back, and we will push higher. But that 19 point gap is massive.

The projection shows that the RS meanwhile are 3rd. Spurs are above them in 2nd being 3 points better off than last season. Liverpool are just 2 points. They clearly haven't played anyone yet. Man City, their fans say, but they beat City last season and drew with them this season.

City meanwhile are scoring more and winning more than last season. So they are still a very long way out front.

Jakub Kollar
28 Posted 24/10/2018 at 13:25:15
Steve, Man City dominance is overwhelming and I would be very surprised if they didn't win the Premier League this season.

I usually ignore Champions League as much as a human being can ignore something, but yesterday I watched City winning against Shaktar Donetsk. I can't imagine Everton touching the ball on their half or creating a chance in that match.

Dennis Stevens
29 Posted 24/10/2018 at 14:02:22
I'll be quite happy if we can steadily improve as a team over the course of the season & finish a good 7th, closing that gap on the top 6. Winning the Cup would be nice too!
Steve Ferns
30 Posted 24/10/2018 at 14:31:58
Agreed Dennis. And to revisit the League Cup exit fiasco, I still believe that in this day and ago it is easier to win the FA Cup than the League Cup. People have this view of the League Cup as it was 20 years ago or so. This cup that no one takes seriously and is won by someone like Bolton. This is not the case. In the last 14 years, only in 2011 and 2013 did a side outside of the sky 6 win the thing.

Sure, the sky 6 don't take it seriously in the early rounds and field a reserve side, but it's usually a case of one of them limping into the semi-finals, at which stage they put out a first choice XI and take it seriously. Mainly since Mourinho made a big thing of saying winning that in February set the tone for the business end of the season.

Now, the FA Cup has also been dominated by the sky 6. But the sides winning it have usually been those of the sky 6 struggling and out of Europe. It's the domain of Arsenal (won 3 of the last 5 seasons) as they go all out to win it to "save their season". Chelsea won it last season in a year they failed to make the top 4. Man United won it when they failed to make the top 4. This is a competition that is usually won by a side outside of the top 4 (last time it was won by someone in the top 4 was double winning Chelsea in 2012). Therefore, it is the one I believe that we have the best chance of winning.

Tony Abrahams
31 Posted 31/10/2018 at 11:08:07
I think one of the biggest things in football is having massive belief, especially in cup competitions, which are mostly just one-off games.

I think Evertonians were quietly getting ready to believe that the Carabo Cup was there to be won until we really messed up against Southampton, but I hope you're both right, Steve and Dennis, because the FA Cup will always be special to most of us.

But going on about real belief, it's something I've not seen since Mystic Meg made that prediction all those years ago!

Tony Abrahams
32 Posted 04/11/2018 at 21:15:43
Two at Chelsea, four at Goodison against Cardiff, and then two more at a ground we used to score at quite regularly before those bastards even existed!

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