Who really has the bigger claim to the Liver Bird?

by   |   09/12/2018  16 Comments  [Jump to last]

A seemingly very well researched article in the Echo tackles this thorny question, tracing the history of the City's ornithological symbol back to ancient times.

Everton shareholder Keith Wilson, from Waterloo, decided to mount a campaign to reclaim the Liver Bird.

He explained: "Many Evertonians do not know that the club used the Liver Bird in the early part of its history.

"Myself and quite a few others are aggrieved that Liverpool FC have ‘hijacked’ this logo and use it as their emblem. The Liver Bird is for the people of Liverpool, and should not be associated with just one club.

"It should be on both kits, because they’re both from Liverpool."

Then Everton spokesman Ian Ross said: “We have no plans to attempt to reclaim the Liver Bird symbol. I think even the most devout Evertonian knows that the Liver Bird is now synonymous with Liverpool FC.”

The last known medal presented to an Everton footballer with the Liver Bird on it was believed to be the Central League Winners medal from 1937-38, just one year before Everton adopted the Tower crest.

While Liverpool's links with the Liver Bird became more and more entrenched, Everton's association with Prince Rupert's Tower became firmly established.

Read the full article at the Liverpool Echo

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Paul Richards
1 Posted 09/12/2018 at 16:10:35
Not a bad piece. I didn't recall that case which protects Liverpool FC's use of the symbol. Still, won't stop us pissing them off at every opportunity, shining blue lights of the real thing at Pier Head.

An incidental Everton First in there I've not seen listed before:

"In 1891 [Everton] became the first club to be presented with the then newly commissioned league championship trophy."

Not many people know that!

Paul Kelly
2 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:14:42
We do, end of.

Get it back on the kit, on the socks or sleeve.

Will Mabon
3 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:33:01
I'm afraid I see the bird as too strongly associated with the RS myself, and would not want it as a major symbol of EFC as we are today.

Couldn't we just somehow take it away from them but then not use it ourselves? Perhaps present it to Marine.

Anton Walsh
4 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:43:06
Let's just take the birds off the building and stick the towers on top. There... sorted. The Tower Building is born.
Joe McMahon
5 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:46:41
I agree with, Will. Let's just concentrate on beating the mighty Watford at home.
Stan Schofield
6 Posted 09/12/2018 at 20:34:58
Seriously?!

Our emblem is well established and associated with the best periods in Everton's history. Let's just stick with it, and forget all this childish Liver Bird shite.

We'd be better off focusing on winning more games and continued improvement towards winning trophies. That's what's important, all else is irrelevant.

Tony Everan
7 Posted 09/12/2018 at 20:37:35
They can have the Liver bird, so what, who gives a 'flying' shite about it? All I am craving for is for us to finish above them in the Premier League every year and be genuine contenders for all the competitions.

Rob Halligan
8 Posted 09/12/2018 at 20:56:02
Another useless article by the Red Echo. All it's doing is causing even more bitterness between us and the RS. You've only got to read the comments at the end of the article to see that. As some have said above, let them keep their overgrown pigeon.
Alan J Thompson
9 Posted 10/12/2018 at 13:53:38
Anyone remember an old saying that Liverpool would never win the FA Cup while the Liver Birds flew? While it may be coincidence, I think the first time they won it, they had been taken down for cleaning.

Fact or fiction?

Kevin Tully
10 Posted 11/12/2018 at 01:31:28
Us. We own it. No trophies, no finals,...just a big old bird. Made up. When's the bus? Fucks sake.
Kevin Tully
11 Posted 11/12/2018 at 01:34:14
Logging off... For good. Goodnight all. The final straw in ridiculousness. [Thumbs up emoji]
Kevin Tully
12 Posted 11/12/2018 at 01:41:10
Ohhh just thought that may have read a little differently as was meant. I'm fine, not logging off from life...just this site. Good luck all!
Gary Gibson
13 Posted 11/12/2018 at 04:02:08
The Liver Bird was our symbol long before it was ever theirs.

Just as the sailing ship (a symbol of Manchester) is on the crests of both Manchester clubs, so should the Liver Bird be on our crest.

Tony Pemberton
14 Posted 11/12/2018 at 10:10:16
It's a good little harmless wind-up. Nothing more.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
15 Posted 11/12/2018 at 15:35:37
Perhaps we could do a Rupert Tower with the Liver bird locked in and looking out through a barred window.
Derek Thomas
16 Posted 14/12/2018 at 07:18:11
They only 'own' the rights to the cartoon version on the shirt.

The residual rights to the castings on the Liver Buildings still reside (just) with the descendants of the original sculptor.

My mole in The College of Arms tells me that the bird on the City Crest is an Heraldic device and is own by nobody and thus can be used by anybody, but they have to approve if used in a coat of arms.

He further stated, should we require it, that a tweak to the wing position would give you a 'Liver Bird Resurgent'.

As it annoys them on the quiet, I'll settle for lighting them up blue once a year.

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