The BBC claim that the Blues have decided against pursuing the 21-year-old, despite reports that a deal had been in principle with the player over wages and a structured compensation plan over the life of his first contract.
Everton had supposedly bid £25m (which Celtic are said to have wanted paid up front and in full) for Tierney whom many regard to be the best young player in Scotland but will now look elsewhere for what would be their first signing of the summer.
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1 Posted 08/07/2018 at 12:06:57
2 Posted 08/07/2018 at 12:16:22
£25m buys you Sigurdssons left leg, and we won't pay it for the best young British player outside the Premier league.
3 Posted 08/07/2018 at 15:25:09
4 Posted 08/07/2018 at 15:33:14
5 Posted 08/07/2018 at 15:47:33
6 Posted 08/07/2018 at 15:48:36
Not impressed. On to the next no-no.
7 Posted 08/07/2018 at 15:50:54
I have full confidence in the new management team to get our recruitment right, but I would be lying if I said that I'm not getting nervous. Only a month or so to go before the window slams shut, I am praying that the wheels are well and truly in motion.
8 Posted 08/07/2018 at 15:58:14
I doubt the £25M price tag was to blame, nor do I think it was bollocks.
I genuinely think we were after Tierney, and only time will tell what went wrong... if anything.
Never mind... there are other fish in the sea — as long as we don't catch that Rose fish. I'd much rather have Joe Bryan.
9 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:14:12
Get him in and he will be the best signing of the summer by far!!
10 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:18:54
11 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:22:02
In one of the threads, Brian Williams thought Gibson of Middlesbrough as a part-exchange involving Besic was a more likely signing. He looks like the type of player we need. Has learned his trade the hard way. Is there any more information out there?
12 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:30:55
13 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:37:59
Seriously though, I do hope it's just rumour that we have shelved interest in Tierney; I appreciate we need to reduce numbers and wage bill, but if we seriously want success, we need good players to achieve that.
I find it totally illogical, if the information is true, that they are baulking at the alleged £25M fee for a 21-year-old special player, when recently they paid – without batting an eye-lid – £28M for 27-year-old Bolasie.
14 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:40:36
Offer £20M up front and £5M based on appearances, with Robinson on loan for the season. Please make this one happen... 🤞
15 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:45:52
16 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:48:34
17 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:52:00
Problem is, everyone listens to the rumour mongers. You never know what the truth is these days. If something is repeated often enough, and from different sources, you begin to believe it. Tierney isn't the only left-back out there. I am much more concerned about Lookman going if I'm honest.
18 Posted 08/07/2018 at 16:56:30
To add, some of the press in Scotland are saying this is far from over.
19 Posted 08/07/2018 at 17:10:13
I really like Tierney and hope he comes but there's a few decent, fast left-backs around.
20 Posted 08/07/2018 at 17:20:11
21 Posted 08/07/2018 at 17:40:51
Now Rose is being mentioned. Tierney at 21 is already a top player with his career ahead. Rose is 28 and, let's be honest, on the downward side of the hill.
I mentioned the Tierney rumour early this morning on another thread. It is disappointing because I've been championing him for over a year now.
I also thought Gibson as a left-sided centre-half would have been ideal; however, Steve Fearns reckons Silva likes 7 foot monsters at the back so I would imagine Gibson is out too.
Quite usual for me: two guys I wanted, looks as if I'm well off the mark – again!!!
22 Posted 08/07/2018 at 17:47:05
Bizarre transfer strategy after pissing away bigger sums on the likes of Keane and Klaassen.
Expect Tierney to end up at Spurs.
23 Posted 08/07/2018 at 17:57:22
Come on, lads, it's very easy. Everton need a left-back, Tierney's a good left-back. Let's put two and two together, quote a price from thin air and run with it.
24 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:00:38
25 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:14:51
Like you, I thought Tierney was nailed on and was excited at the prospect but I'm not too sure about Gibson (or Vida for that matter).
I have been championing Danny Rose for a long while now and still think him or Tierney would be the only improvements on an aging Leighton Baines.
The centre-back conundrum is a bit different as I think we need a real leader and dominator but there are that many about.
It would be wrong to settle for another Ashley Williams of Funes Mori which is what we are being linked with at the moment.
It seems Brands has his work cut out as money seems to be scarce now and he has to spend so much time trying to tie up exits for the rejects.
26 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:19:19
27 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:24:36
28 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:30:38
Bolasie, Sandro, Klaassen, they get almost half a million a week.
We are no longer the club who pays over-the-odds fees...
29 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:34:23
30 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:35:01
31 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:37:34
If Celtic still play hard-ball, then go in for Joe Bryan instead... simples!
32 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:40:42
Brands was signed up to be more of a sales manager than a talent prospector and I suspect the pressure will be on Silva to play Unsy's lads before any more big money is whittled away on garbage.
Kenwright told them straight, I hear!
33 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:53:08
34 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:59:18
Let's forget that shipping out Barry was Koeman's greatest mistake by a mile, shall we?
35 Posted 08/07/2018 at 18:59:22
I doubt Kenwright has told Silva and Brands anything they don't already know. I believe, and yes I have said this many times, that Silva has been hired on the basis of being able to work with what we have. Brands is not someone I know much about, but I've read a lot about what people here have said, and what others have said elsewhere, and he seems like someone keen to bring in young players to the side, and develop players already at the academy. This means not blocking the route to the first team for the likes of Feeney with players like Mawson and Gibson.
36 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:05:59
Reminds me of when we refused to pay £10 Million for Gareth Bale.
Ah well... I guess no wonder kid. I knew it was to good to be true.
37 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:08:15
38 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:09:40
39 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:10:57
Then on to the other reason: he is too slow and does not have the stamina to play left back for Silva. This is a key role. He needs to be built like an 800-m runner. He was previously. He would have been perfect. But this is not the same Baines.
If we sign Tierney, then I would keep Baines and allow him to fight for his jersey, challenging Tierney to take it off him. If we signed someone like Rose, then I'd let Baines go and rely on Robinson as backup.
Maybe, though, for the reasons stated in my previous post (@32), Silva is very impressed with Robinson, and thinks Baines has enough in the tank, and we should put our faith in them.
As for Tim Howard, loved the guy, and never said much against him until 2015, when he was clearly in decline. Why? I have no idea. Physically he was fine. Therefore, any issues were mental. Big Nev says as long as you are good physically, keepers should be getting better and better in their 30s as experience makes them so. It was a big surprise to me to see Howard drop off so quickly after a great World Cup in 2014, but he had not had a good season in the run-up to it.
Leon Osman was someone I loved. Never said a bad word about him. Tony Hibbert too, I was biased as we come from the same place. Jags – I still think he's the first name on the team sheet in defence. Rooney, I would have said we should keep him and let him do a job, but for £150k a week, no chance. We were simply not getting our money's worth and so he had to go or take a pay cut, and Wayne wouldn't do that now, would he?
40 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:13:29
41 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:16:19
42 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:25:59
43 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:35:53
It's possible that they are baulking at the £25M fee for Tierney because of the money they have appeared to have wasted on Bolasie, although I reserve judgement on that because I haven't seen enough of Bolasie. On one hand, we as supporters criticise the board for spending money... and, on the other hand give them stick for not spending enough.
Hi Steve ,
With regard to signing a player who is likely to serve the club for 10 years, that's exactly what I thought would happen when we signed John Stones. It doesn't always work out that way, does it? I hope you're okay for the get together on Sunday, when we can put the football world to rights.
44 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:44:18
45 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:47:13
Some Celtic fans tell me he is the real deal, and is a proper player. Now it remains to be seen where he goes, if anywhere, and where the club's priority transfer focus now lies.
Usual EFC transfer dealings... The players over the years that we're nailed on to sign for EFC! Maybe a twist here, else do we need to offset and recover monies before any large outlay?
46 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:47:31
47 Posted 08/07/2018 at 19:59:50
His intial assements of Antonee Robinson may be very positive, way better than he was anticipating. This will have been relayed to Marcel Brands.
He may be prepared to gamble on Baines playing the initial league matches with Antonee playing the rest and acting as back up.
Then, He may also sign left sided central defensive cover like the Algerian player were linked with who can play central and left back.
Silva will then have more funds to strengthen elsewhere with top quality.
48 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:06:19
49 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:20:38
Can't understand people gnashing their teeth based on press speculation.
50 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:22:50
We'll be the only interested parties that will pay anywhere close to the asking price. Spurs for sure won't pay it and Jose won't because he's too young and inexperienced... that leaves us. He'll be playing in blue come August.
51 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:25:19
If we start with eight or nine of last season's line-up, and they play like they did last season, we are in trouble straight away.
Conversely, if we start with eight or nine of last season's line-up, with better tactics, intent, and purpose instilled in them by a new training regime under Marco Silva... well, anything is possible.
It's a new era; let's give it a chance.
52 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:29:39
53 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:31:15
That's the spirit. Positivity from the word go is what is required.
54 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:35:59
None of the clubs interested will agree to that (in particular Levy's Spurs) as all large transfers are paid in instalments with a portion of it being dependent on appearances and achievements.
It's a huge amount to pay in a lump sum and would take a massive chunk out of our summer funds. A club can purchase players for 100 million in a transfer window but only actually hand over 40 million or less in that first year.
55 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:42:54
56 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:49:29
57 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:49:54
Absolutely zero evidence that Everton is even interested in Tierney yet we have a thread on a slow Sunday up to 50 posts and counting with claims such as:
* typical penny-pinching by Everton
* typical prevaricating by Everton failing to close the deal
* lack of ambition and desire by the board to improve the team
* proof positive that we will go into next season with the same failed team as last season, etc, etc.
No wonder all media outlets have daily transfer rumours as click bait to improve their advertising revenues.
And Steve Ferns, is it correct you work in law, be that as a lawyer, solicitor or some other capacity?
I ask because if so and with your training I would have thought you would be far more rigorous and demanding in your research and confirmation of facts rather than the highly speculative conclusions you are given to.
In this case you are basing your opinion on "Now the BBC says we have pulled out. Other sources go into more detail about why. I simply have correlated them all and put them together."
Given your hinted-at profession, I'm surprised you can't see the fount of this episode appears to be a brief single speculative piece in the Scottish Sun, regurgitated and recycled by online and offline media, as well as countless fan forums such as TW.
The editors constantly tell us the Rumour Mill section is by far and away the most popular feature on TW, so it evidently fills a need.
Me? Thank heaven a great World Cup has filled a month of the otherwise dormant summer.
As ever, I'll wait for the confirmed signings before expressing an opinion on a new player and what the implications are for the club.
58 Posted 08/07/2018 at 20:52:28
59 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:02:33
60 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:11:51
This is Moshiri's fifth transfer window and the club has gone backwards; he's not the man for Everton.
61 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:12:58
Also, Jay, you'll note that one of the key players in this rumour is Greg O'Keefe, who I used to know well in a professional capacity (he was The Echo's courtroom reporter); we used to chat quite a bit. I know he's not one for making shit up.
62 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:20:24
And I think it is reasonable to observe, given your posting history on TW, you take matters Everton related very very seriously indeed.
63 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:22:17
64 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:24:53
65 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:28:44
That is neither a criticism nor condemnation Steve. Just simple observation.
66 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:32:26
67 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:35:14
When we started the Rumour Mill way back when, in a simpler time, I thought it would be interesting to provide a way that we could track which Everton-related stories came good. We used to put up most leads, and even then, the proportion of 'fake news' averaged around 90% — but that was before we had this plethora of click-bait sites which have, for me at least, destroyed any lingering interest in the sector.
I'm with Jay in that I'd rather stick to the Real World. I believe Lyndon has wanted to enhance the reputation of the site by no longer listing every new name linked but being more discerning about what we think might have a grain of truth. As a result, we have far fewer threads than there are names linked with Everton, but those other names nevertheless almost inevitably find their way onto the threads.
68 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:41:29
69 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:49:11
I hope the Rumour Mill continues, modified or not, but I'm not in the habit of believing media stories on football transfers. Thanks to you and Lyndon though.
70 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:49:28
"New Everton CEO Has Created Accountability" | John Blaine - YouTube.
I can't get any of the links to work.
71 Posted 08/07/2018 at 21:51:34
72 Posted 08/07/2018 at 22:42:04
73 Posted 08/07/2018 at 22:57:17
Damned right we should be interested in who is linked with us whether it is a load of old shite or not. I doubt it makes one jot of difference to who we actually sign but at least it shows we passionately care about who gets brought in.
74 Posted 08/07/2018 at 23:20:18
However, some of it comes from a small piece of information be it from a club insider, an agent or the agents cleaners brother who once played at the park with a players brother and follows him on insta!
But we like debate and discussion around a players fit to the club. It produces football banter that as detailed above is an escape from the pressure cooker of real life.
Thing is, I can find you now a piece of trash on soooo many players and write you an article on it... people linked with that club WILL click on it and some will genuinely believe that Ronaldo could sign for Rotherham.
But it is about looking at reliable journalists and reliable sources and trying to sort the wheat from the chaff.
I could write a story on ToffeeWeb rumour mill and have it placed on "news now everton" in the next hour... it would get clicks and generate money for this site.
But arguing amongst each other? Really? We're all blue aren't we!!
75 Posted 08/07/2018 at 23:40:31
Dead right, Jay Wood. Not like you to ever speculate on how a rumoured new signing would fare. Definitely not on Yerry Mina. Or James Maddison. Or William “no relation” Carvalho.
Whoever guessed that your account was hacked may have been onto something.
76 Posted 08/07/2018 at 23:59:50
Rose was first class. Most of the Spurs fans I've spoken to reckon he hasn't been the same since his comeback from injury (knee ligament damage).
77 Posted 08/07/2018 at 00:06:39
What I don't presume is that we are in the market for every player linked to us.
What I don't presume is that it is some kind of failing by the club if we don't land said player, even though there is nothing official linking us to the player.
What I don't engage in is an immediate beating up on the club for showing a lack of ambition, tardiness in the transfer market, ad nauseum.
Look back on previous transfer windows. Keep an eye open in this window. I steer well clear of transfer rumour threads and certainly don't engage in any of the above-mentioned practices commonly found in such threads.
The three players you mention I commented on in general threads because I know well two of them. I contested Steve Ferns' promotion of William Carvalho with my own first-hand knowledge of the player.
On Mina, I offered again my knowledge on the player following the England - Colombia game when his name came up, based on his time playing here in Brazil. I made the general observation – not in relation to Everton or if he would be a good signing – that he was a solid strong, no-nonsense defender against a traditional bruising Number 9, but wondered how he would cope with the smaller, nimbler, more technically inclined forwards that abound in the Premier League.
On James Maddison, I made no comment about the player as I readily admitted I knew nothing of him or his game. My contribution in that regard was limited to the observation that we already had on our books a player who occupies the same position, who had a similar Championship record to Maddison last season, who has achieved more in his career at International level and who is a full year younger – Kieran Dowell.
So, no, I'm not given to speculating on each and every name linked to us and certainly do not deride the club as a default position when a rumoured transfer target isn't paraded at Finch Farm holding up the shirt within 24 hours of a breaking rumour.
78 Posted 09/07/2018 at 01:19:58
79 Posted 09/07/2018 at 02:04:58
80 Posted 09/07/2018 at 02:24:13
Brands and Silva met with Kenwright in London to discuss transfers.
The deal was called off.
I see a pattern here.
81 Posted 09/07/2018 at 02:42:35
82 Posted 09/07/2018 at 05:48:02
"It was about to be a done deal." Yeah, as if you would know.
You couldn't see a pattern in a wallpaper store.
Give it a rest, son.
83 Posted 09/07/2018 at 05:53:20
The job of the Director of Football is to find value in the market, so I support Brands in not paying over the odds for players. We signed John Stones for £3 million and Mason Holgate for £2 million, so I don't see the business case to shell out £25 million on Tierney.
84 Posted 09/07/2018 at 06:23:35
They will want the prestige of playing in the Champion's League every year but now have to play four qualifying rounds. They may want to hang on to their better players in order to qualify.
As for Everton, I think it may also be partly true that we are still clearing up last summer's mess. Nothing to back it up but I wonder if we were trying to do a cash plus player exchange deal. Maybe we're trying to spend wisely and offload players at the same time.
85 Posted 09/07/2018 at 08:03:27
I have visions of Kenwright in his crass, dated London office, cigar on the go, feet on the desk, kicking it back in his weathered, reclining armchair:
"No, lads, £25M for the lad from Celtic — far too much. What about the lad who represented Argentina in the World Cup? I'm told we can get him on loan for a fee of £5M with an option to buy... Now be a luvvie and pass the butterscotch."
86 Posted 09/07/2018 at 09:36:51
So many of you have virtually written Baines off. A mistake. Tierney may be good. But he's good in the Scottish Premier League. If he was that good, we wouldn't have got a sniff -– I'm telling you. Klaassen was good and Sandro too. In their own leagues.
Ridiculous amount of money and I'm glad Everton are showing we're not mugs with money. We need to be more concerned about shipping out the dross and retaining players like Lookman. And we need to be creating more chances for Tosun. Yes, a replacement for Baines will be needed. But let's not go into panic mode.
87 Posted 09/07/2018 at 09:54:10
88 Posted 09/07/2018 at 11:17:26
Now we are a club with money we don't shop in the Scottish League!
89 Posted 09/07/2018 at 11:21:26
He's not THAT good! And he, or his agent, have an inflated opinion of his worth. It would blow our wage structure to smithereens.
90 Posted 09/07/2018 at 12:03:47
I agree wages rising to £145k pw is complete madness, what is the proven Seamus Coleman on?
Tierney has great potential to do well in the Premier League, but at the moment it remains as potential. Antonee Robinson has it too and probably a few more young left backs across Europe.
The Scottish league is not as competitive as the Championship. Tierney has it all to prove. So, while I would welcome him coming, I am glad that it won't be at any cost.
91 Posted 09/07/2018 at 12:26:13
Brands was brought in for a reason and my understanding of that reason is he will stop any bullshit with transfer fees and players and clubs taking the piss when it comes to Everton.
Fuck Tierney and Celtic if they have caused Everton to call off the chase for him. Stay in Scotland or go to a "Supposed Bigger Club" — we will get where we want to be without you.
92 Posted 09/07/2018 at 12:26:19
Oh how true. The irony. Out of the mouths of babes.
93 Posted 09/07/2018 at 12:30:02
The American had me pissing myself laughing again!
Someone had to tell Victor and you said it with Style..
94 Posted 09/07/2018 at 12:54:41
95 Posted 09/07/2018 at 13:07:41
He's exactly what we need, fast, fairly strong, good delivery, and a tidy footballer. He would link up well with Lookman on the left (so would Tierney, obviously) if we decide to keep Lookman? If we don't, I'll be dead upset.
96 Posted 09/07/2018 at 13:09:15
Playing in the Scottish Premier League in a totally dominant team is not the evidence I want to see. This guy may be the business, but we would be taking a gamble. Aiden McGeady looked great playing for Celtic as well. I assume we would have offered a smaller upfront sum and installments based on appearances and progress.
97 Posted 09/07/2018 at 13:23:20
It shouldn't be difficult to sign a pacey, skilful, tireless and robust left back. Maybe he really likes the look of Robinson; if so, great – give him a go.
98 Posted 09/07/2018 at 13:51:04
We waste money one season.By God did Koeman waste some money. We then spend nothing the next season. That's our Everton.
Only joking about Wallace. Why would he leave one basket case of a club. To come to another.
Let's hope that Mourinio has a big bust up with Shaw. And we then steam in and get him. Now when I say steam. I mean dither. And we then haggle over his locker or his little extra pocket money. And Burnley then buy him. That's our Everton.
So it's Baines to carry on until he reaches about fifty. Then young Robinson will not be quite so young anymore. He will be just about the correct age to then step in. Problem solved.
99 Posted 09/07/2018 at 13:55:58
100 Posted 09/07/2018 at 19:56:16
101 Posted 09/07/2018 at 20:52:30
102 Posted 09/07/2018 at 21:23:24
But there are people that use every opportunity to beat the club with a stick. We had a huge investment last year, debts written off, yet still some cannot resist to take a swipe.
Showing ambition is one thing, but paying £25 million and £80k a week for an unproven player is another, especially when we are needing to get rid of players that haven't been able to cut it in the Premier League. Wing backs are far from the priority signings as far as I'm concerned.
103 Posted 09/07/2018 at 22:00:49
In the meantime, I hope they learn from last year and have a Plan B, C & D lined up.
104 Posted 10/07/2018 at 04:30:19
105 Posted 10/07/2018 at 07:08:33
106 Posted 10/07/2018 at 17:07:57
1) He's still developing;
2) Not ready for the Premier League;
3) May have the potential to be a top player;
4) Despite knowing the inflated market, both said we shouldn't be paying more than £8m for him.
Who knows? But I trust the honest opinion of fellow season ticket holders. Alarm bells started ringing when mouth full of teeth Brenda Rodgers started talking about him leaving if they received an offer they couldn't refuse, 'couldn't blame the lad', etc etc. Very philanthropic!!
Sounds to me like he wanted to inflate the price, sell him to fund other transfers. I don't recall him being so open-minded with Suarez. And Suarez wanted out, this lad isn't forcing anything.
Incidentally, when I asked my mates whether the lad was a decent character the first thing they both said, and as if they found it a bit weird, was "apparently he's teetotal!!". Ha, don't want to be stereotyping my Scottish mates but that isn't really a big deal!! I say, writing this from a beer garden...
107 Posted 12/07/2018 at 22:24:58
108 Posted 18/07/2018 at 01:03:37
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