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Everton ready to loan Holgate out

| Monday, 10 December 2018 26comments  |  Jump to last
Mason Holgate could be given an opportunity to play regular first-team football for the second half of the season by going out on loan.

The Mirror claim that Everton are considering letting him sign for another club until the end the season with no option to buy when the January transfer window opens.

The report says that there is considerable interest from some Premier League clubs and a number from the Championship in signing him on a temporary basis.



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Mark Andersson
1 Posted 10/12/2018 at 07:12:38
Seems like a sensible move for all concerend...
Jim Bennings
2 Posted 10/12/2018 at 08:09:24
He's fallen down the pecking order so much this season but I can't say I didn't see it coming, he's not strong enough to be centre-half.
Richard Brejsa
3 Posted 10/12/2018 at 08:17:13
If Jagielka wants to stay until the end of the season, I have no problem with it.
Martin Berry
4 Posted 10/12/2018 at 08:50:31
For his age in the position he plays, he is as good as many but regular football experience via the loan system would be brilliant for him.
Liam Reilly
5 Posted 10/12/2018 at 09:55:58
I don't think he's good enough for Everton's aspirations; but could perhaps do well with a team lower down the league or in the Championship.
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 10/12/2018 at 10:06:29
The way Arnautovic bullied him in September was the final straw for believing he was a centre-half at Premier League level.

Central defenders in this league need to be big, bad and mean.

Nathan Ford
7 Posted 10/12/2018 at 10:20:16
Loan him to a team like Aston Villa, they are trying to play attractive front-foot football in a hard league. I think a challenge like that will test him on all fronts and will toughen him up.
Simon Smith
8 Posted 10/12/2018 at 10:30:45
Holgate is a brilliant prospect, a loan will stand him in good stead. I'm sure there are plenty of clubs who will bang down our door to get this deal done.

I'd seriously consider giving Davies and Dowell similar opportunity too, as game time is a must for these players. Giving all 3 lads the experience of loan deals to gain 15/20 extra games under a different manager will be great for their development.

Holgate isn't needed now we have Jagielka back as 4th choice; Davies isn't needed even if we sell Schniederlin as Baningime is back along with Jimmy Mc; and Dowell doesn't get a look-in anyways.

All 3 will come back into a Europa League squad hopefully, giving them all 8 to 15 matches each before next season's winter transfer window.

Sam Hoare
9 Posted 10/12/2018 at 11:06:20
I agree, Simon, absolutely crucial for young players to be getting as many first team games as possible between age of 18-23 – otherwise, they'll never progress.

Davies may well be closer to first-team minutes but I'd certainly loan out Holgate and Dowell to whoever will play and develop them. Still plenty of time for them to make an impact at Everton.

Robert Leigh
10 Posted 10/12/2018 at 13:50:10
Jim #5,

Arnautovic has bullied every centre-half he's faced this year, not just young Mason.

Still have high hopes for Holgate - a loan will do him good though (he's only played 57 first team games, 20 of which were at Barnsley).

He needs to play though, not sit on someone else's bench. I'd say he would be well at Leeds as they are near home for him, they are challenging up at the top of the Championship and they are short at the back at this time.

If he stays in the Premier League, he would likely end up at a lower club, losing the majority of games which would not do his confidence much good.

Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 10/12/2018 at 14:55:56
What we think of Holgate's abilities, or whether the West Ham game was a one-off, is irrelevant.

Silva doesn't rate him or he wouldn't have brought in Mina and Zouma. He's fifth choice. No option, he must be loaned.

Davies is a more difficult question. I don't expect him to be loaned out -- he is Gana's backup.

I couldn't care less about Dowell. I know many here still have affection for his skills and hopes for his future, but I've already chalked him off as Championship material.

Jim Bennings #6, it helps but not necessarily. Neither of Man City's center-backs are "big, bad and mean."

Fran Mitchell
12 Posted 10/12/2018 at 15:15:01
I feel many on here are too harsh on the lad, he has done very well. In his short career, he's been played at both right back and centre back, is with his 4th manager (5th including Unsworth) in a team that defensively has been poor – partnering a woeful Williams the majority of the time, an aging Jags, and an under-par Keane.

The lad has many attributes – pace, athleticism, decent control, physique – and could well become a top class centre-half in my opinion. To say he isn't 'Premier League standard' is incorrect, he has been a Premier League player for 3 years, and should he move, many a Premier League team will be interested.

For now, with the arrival of both Zouma and Mina, and Keane's resurgent form, then he has fallen down the pecking order and a move on loan could do him well, somewhere like Burnley, Newcastle, Palace, Huddersfield.

With Jagielka likely to retire or move on in the summer, Zouma's future being far from certain, then Holgate will certainly have a role in next season's squad.

As for Davies, a loan may well make sense, maybe to a club like Wolves to combine his tenacity to their cultured midfield, although of if McCarthy is fit to be Gana's back-up.

Dowell needs football too; whether or not he'll make it with us is another question. I still have hope.

Baningime too, a short-term loan would do him well.

Michael Kenrick
13 Posted 10/12/2018 at 15:25:18
Things seem to have gone rather quiet for Beni Baningime.

The 20-year-old suffered a severe ankle sprain during the pre-season visit to Austria. He returned to training at the end of September and played two full games for David Unsworth's U23s in October.

Since then... nothing. If fit, I can't believe these youngsters can go for months without playing. But that's modern footy, I suppose.

James Stewart
14 Posted 10/12/2018 at 15:32:54
@11 True, but I think Jim has a point. Stones and the rest of the Man City centre-backs are still far more imposing frames than Holgate. He looked like a kid in the West Ham game. Doesn't have the physicality for playing centre-half in the Premier League yet.
Bill Gienapp
15 Posted 11/12/2018 at 02:00:37
That's a smart, sensible post, Fran (12).
Simon Smith
16 Posted 11/12/2018 at 14:42:16
Yes agree 100% Fran @ 12.
David Ellis
17 Posted 11/12/2018 at 14:48:30
Also agree with Fran @12. Mason has a future in the Premier League and hopefully at Everton. A loan for half a season seems a good idea given the strength we have in that position for now. We'll need him back next season.
Rob Dolby
18 Posted 11/12/2018 at 20:09:13
We have Keane who is unrecognisable compared to last season. Mina we have paid decent money for. Zouma already stated he wants to win a place back at Chelsea. Jagielka is 36.

In reality next season Holdgate could be fighting it out with Pennington for 3rd choice centre-back. I agree with a loan; I certainly wouldn't offload him just because he had a poor game vs West Ham.

Bill Watson
19 Posted 11/12/2018 at 20:27:06
Mike #11,

Agree with all your comments. Loaning Davies would leave us seriously short of midfield cover so that's a non-starter.

Karen Mason
20 Posted 12/12/2018 at 03:18:25
It's fair to say that Holgate is not a big bad bully of a player. Instead, he is cultured, with composure beyond his years, and can carry the ball out of defence. He also has speed & athleticism.

Many teams these days seem to be favouring small, fast, tricky strikers. So, just maybe having 2 tall centre-backs who are not blessed with pace, or agile enough to deal with fast tricky forwards, are not the best option for every game.

I believe Holgate, for this season, will benefit from pitch time elsewhere (hopefully with a decent coach). But I, for one, would like to keep him as an Everton player. I think he is equal to Stones, but minus the attitude.

Darren Hind
21 Posted 12/12/2018 at 06:24:22
Ahh, Karen, The voice of reason

"Cultured with composure beyond his years" - Absolutely

There is a section of Evertonians who think a centre-half should be an uncompromising 15 stone yard dog who will have no qualms about hitting Row Z at the slightest hint of danger. Every time we get a ball playing centre-half, they can't get rid of him quick enough. "I want my bluddy defenders to defend" The language of the philistine.

I despair when people claim he isn't good enough because he was "bullied against West Ham". Did they not watch that game? Our entire team were bullied. Our entire defence was bullied not 36 hours ago.

Show me a centre-half anywhere in the world and can show you examples of where he has been "bullied" especially as a 21-year-old, I wouldn't want to though, because I realise how daft it is to judge a player by a couple of chosen isolated incidents.

Silva is developing a team here and because a youngster isn't in favour right now, it doesn't mean he won't be in the not too distant.

Being bullied? Think of it as a young roofer twatting his thumb... it's part of learning the trade.


Derek Taylor
22 Posted 12/12/2018 at 13:16:17
There's no place in Everton's brave new world for local – or indeed young – British players, as our scouting focuses on the big wide world!

With all the riches flowing into the premier clubs' kitties, the chances of young locals getting a regular slot are about 1%!

Simon Smith
23 Posted 12/12/2018 at 13:38:45
Harsh, Derek, I believe we will continue to blood youngsters to follow in the footsteps of Calvert-Lewin, Davies, Kenny, Holgate and Baningime.

It's about being brave as well as good enough to take your opportunities.

Derek Taylor
24 Posted 12/12/2018 at 16:07:07
With due respect, none of that lot will ever be more than very average players. The ones who are likely to make it we sell smartish, don't we?
John G Davies
25 Posted 12/12/2018 at 16:21:39
In my opinion, Mason Holgate won't have a career under Silva if he continues with a back four. He would be effective in a back three but, at the moment, he won't get a game (barring injuries).

I think Mason is not a full-back and will not be a top-class centre-back at his current rate of progress. Hopefully, if he goes on loan, he can learn positional sense and the tendency to ball watch.

Kevin Prytherch
26 Posted 12/12/2018 at 17:38:30
Derek.

If there's no place in our brave new world for developing young talent, then I fear we will become a soulless club full or short-termist fans like whom I have despised for years.

You may want this; personally, I don't.

Holgate and Dowell could do with a loan move in the second half of the season.

Kenny is direct back-up for Coleman, Davies is 3rd-choice midfielder and Calvert-Lewin is pushing for a starting berth. Therefore, these three need to stay. At the age of 20 or 21, this is where they all should be.

As for Beni, if he is 4th choice midfielder, then he should stay; if he isn't, then he should go on loan too.

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