Season › 2023-24 › General Forum Euros 2024 — Day 13 By Michael Kenrick 26/06/2024 Share: The final set of games that will decide Groups E and F and the best of the rest — the top four 3rd-place teams from each group that go through to the Round of 16 with the top two out of each group: Wednesday 26 June 2024 17:00 Ukraine v Belgium — BBC 1 17:00 Slovakia v Romania — BBC 2 20:00 Georgia v Portugal — ITV 120:00 Czechia v Turkey — ITV 4 Reader Comments (243) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Kieran Kinsella 1 Posted 26/06/2024 at 16:24:21 Hopefully whatever happens in these games means we don't have to play the Netherlands in the last 16. Michael Kenrick 2 Posted 26/06/2024 at 16:34:19 If both these Group E games are drawn, Ukraine is out.Everton's Vitalii Mykolenko starts! Mike Gaynes 3 Posted 26/06/2024 at 16:39:01 Glad Myko is OK to play. That foot injury looked really bad when he did it. Kieran Kinsella 4 Posted 26/06/2024 at 16:39:16 MichaelFormer Romania player Danut Lupu claims it has already been arranged for that to happen:"We will qualify, draw with Slovakia. It's arranged, it would be a shame if we both didn't go. Why risk it? Would be a shame!"Remember West Germany v Austria in 1982? Doubt Lupu is saying this based on anything other than his own imagination and wishful thinking but if it's level the last 30 minutes I can see them playing out a 0-0. Paul Ferry 5 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:00:48 I haven't done my homework and rose from slumber late. Are any of these 4 games actually interesting? Can anyone big be knocked out or anyone small get through? Michael Kenrick 6 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:03:20 Paul, all 4 teams in Group E on 3 points! Anything can happen!Some big bloke up-front for Belgium. And Onana in midfield. I'm torn. Colin Glassar 7 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:05:14 If both games end in a draw, all 4 teams are eliminated, Paul, for being boring twats.Head say Belgium, heart says Ukraine. Slavia Ukraini Jamie Crowley 8 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:05:51 And for those of us pulling for Mighty Hungary, we need Portugal and Turkey-A to draw or win.Good last day, especially starting with a group where every team icon 3 points. Jamie Crowley 9 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:08:00 Fuck me is that Anthony Taylor reffing the Belgium - Ukraine game??Really? Neil Tyrrell 10 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:08:58 Commentator said Belgium's kit is inspired by Tintin, not sure if he was being serious. Maybe England should wear Dennis the Menace tops. Paul Ferry 11 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:10:53 Thanks everyone. I'll watch the 2 big Belgos play the good guys. Michael Kenrick 12 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:11:30 Romelu Lukaku — all-time leading scorer for Belgium.Fails to make proper contact there. Colin Glassar 13 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:14:03 Myko looking fit and healthy Paul Ferry 14 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:14:42 I rather like that Belgian kit. Onana thinks he's playing for City. Mike Gaynes 15 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:15:44 Neil #10, he was, and it is. The pregame commentators on Fox in the US talked about Belgium wearing it at Wembley in the friendly. Might be the worst national team kit I've ever seen.PF, only if City has incontinence issues. Brown shorts are normally seen only in nursing homes. Colin Glassar 16 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:16:10 Onana pointing beautifully Paul Ferry 17 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:29:58 Goodness, you've led a sheltered life Mike G!You think that's bad.Try Scotland 1990:https://www.grailed.com/listings/62425232-soccer-jersey-x-umbro-x-vintage-remake-scotland-1989-1990-umbro-football-shirt-jersey?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GSN%20-%20Pmax%7cTops%7c50-100&utm_term=sem_nonbranded&utm_content=&device=c&keyword=&matchtype=&googleproduct.id=62425232&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-O6zBhASEiwAOHeGxcXGbzbNN7h-7-DZF9OZ9FgGrbWzvfbvv1AhE6W7pqJenWIGwgBMyBoC9GYQAvD_BwEanything worn by Jorge Campos:https://www.thefader.com/2018/08/09/jorge-campos-goalie-jersey-design-breakdown-history-mexico-nike-pumas-acapulcoGermany 1994:https://tbjerseys.com/product/germany-1994-home-shirt-matthaus-klinsmann-voller/Nigeria 1994:https://amjersey.shop/products/1994-nigeria-away-retro-jerseySud Afrika 1998:https://jaraguar.com/product/south-africa-retro-football-jersey-wc98/ Ajay Gopal 18 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:31:20 Fascinating to see the Onana vs Mykolenko battle. Myko seems to be playing almost as a left winger/ wing back. Mike Gaynes 19 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:39:29 Dude, Campos was immortal. The stuff he showed up in was garishly classic. Besides, nobody ever dressed worse in the goal box than David Seaman. The man looked like an Easter Island moa with a mustache. Paul Ferry 20 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:41:11 Great to see Slovakia ahead and top. My old PhD supervisor's wife - they now live in Guildford CT, few miles from Newhaven - is a Slovak, and she'll be dancing in some London pub right now. Ah shite, Romania just nabbed a pen and now they're top and Mylo is bottom. Just heard that if the Belgos end up 2nd they will play France. prÃÄ na slovensko Paul Ferry 21 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:42:25 Those other kits MG - did you see the Jocks? - are way way way worse than the Belgo kit that I still rather like. Paul Ferry 22 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:44:08 He had to shoot there not put it across the box. Colin Glassar 23 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:44:35 I can see Ukraine nicking this Michael Kenrick 24 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:44:43 Shameful to see some fuckhead shining that green laser in De Bruyne's eyes. Another shocking failing of Uefa security protocols. Paul Ferry 25 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:47:08 Fingers crossed Colin. Paul Ferry 26 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:48:46 MK is definitely a security conscious sort of guy. He was fuming over pitch invasions. We had better all be on our best behaviour or we might get nabbed by the ToffeeWeb fuzz. Colin Glassar 27 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:50:05 If Ukraine get their shooting boots on they should win this. Too many egos in the Belgian team. Kieran Kinsella 28 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:55:21 Beaut headed goal for Slovakia Liam Mogan 29 Posted 26/06/2024 at 17:57:02 I like Belgiums kit. Like a hybrid of Coventrys mid-70s Admiral abominations. Sky blue home, Chocolate Brown away. The Latch stuck a hat trick against them in one of those kits if I remember correctly. Raymond Fox 30 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:07:06 Thanks for the laugh lads No 10 & 15. Paul Ferry 31 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:15:42 Jesus I have untold reserves of hate for this Ian Darke shitbag - he keeps saying ONANAH and DUBRAINER Actually it's more DEBROWNER I hate him more than I hate Joan of fucking Arc. Liam Mogan 32 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:18:16 Got to love Myko. Clearly hurt again but still first to block shot on edge of box Neil Tyrrell 33 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:18:54 Well done Myko 👠Billy Shears 34 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:21:54 Not looking good for Myko...sigh.I swear as this tournament goes on,the games are getting worse!Is there still any international side that plays it long anymore?Fucked off with all this tippy tappy shite! Robert Tressell 35 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:25:52 Billy there is definitely room for direct play. Germany looked miles better with Fullkrug. We looked miles better with pace to run in behind. Much better to vary the attack and go long as well as keep patience. Paul Ferry 36 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:27:40 England were playing long balls Billy and looked better, I thought. and surely whoever it is who has that massive man mountain centre forward played the long ball. I see much less tippy tappy than you, but you've said this before so it's a creed for you, I suppose. James Hughes 37 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:33:20 Sad but true fact the Belgium kit is 'inspired' that might be the wrong word, on TinTin Colin Glassar 38 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:33:46 Billy, the Pep virus has infected all these younger managers. Martin Keown really dislikes Everton and Everton players doesn't he? Always picking them out for criticism. Michael Kenrick 39 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:33:59 That was a good play, almost deserved a goal. Good save. Mike Gaynes 40 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:34:45 PF, in my book brown shorts trump every ugly shirt ever worn. Nothing worse. Starting to look like the Belgium game may actually produce a goal. They were sleepwalking for 70 minutes. Paul Ferry 41 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:42:34 Hmmm and you've looked at my gallery of shame MG? I'm beginning to wonder about you and scatological significances mate. Paul Ferry 42 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:43:28 Brilliant effort; great save Ian Bennett 43 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:45:19 Commentators are quick to criticise pickford for a spicy pass, playing it long, etc.But Marc Guehi can do absolutely nothing wrong. Jamie Crowley 44 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:47:09 Kind of hoping Ukraine win this now after being completely noncommittal. Belgium's approach to obtain a draw does sit well with me. Kieran Kinsella 45 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:47:19 As an Everton fan it is weird to see an attacking threat coming from a guy named Bakayoko Jamie Crowley 46 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:47:36 And as soon as I type that Belgium creates a real chance... Jamie Crowley 47 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:47:58 Does NOT sit well with me I should have said. Kieran Kinsella 48 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:48:27 Jamie lol I paused reading it mid sentence to see that attack unfold Mike Gaynes 49 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:49:28 Oh, man, that kidney shot had to hurt. Kieran Kinsella 50 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:50:08 Myko would have buried that Jamie Crowley 51 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:50:58 Disgraceful dive by the Belgium player there. Paul Ferry 52 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:51:34 There should be a cut-off point as in golf - GET IN THE HOLE - where teams go through, say four points Jamie Crowley 53 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:51:36 Mike -He still had all his teeth. Get up. Colin Glassar 54 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:51:46 Ukraine should've won this Paul Ferry 55 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:52:59 Do Belgium not realise that they will play France if it stays like this Kieran Kinsella 56 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:53:22 so the unfashionable countries don't get 8 minutes of injury time to find a winner I see? Paul Ferry 57 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:53:51 My God they're playing keepy Liam Mogan 58 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:55:02 Horrible that from Belgium. Keeping it in the corner at 0-0 Jamie Crowley 59 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:55:28 Feel bad or Ukraine. Is what it is though, I had no dog in this fight.Now I'll be on the edge of my seat for Portugal and Turkey-A to win or draw! Hungary in, happy wife! Kieran Kinsella 60 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:55:31 3rd best team in the world time wasting to get a point who can't even play games in their own country cause it is a war zone. Colin Glassar 61 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:55:37 Out with 4 points? Rigged!!! Mike Gaynes 62 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:55:38 Four points and out. Life just ain't fair sometimes. Paul Ferry 63 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:56:13 OK Belgium - ONANAH DEBROWNE - are my new hate. I hope France take them apart. That late keepy stuff was downright embarrassing. Tin Tin is a twat; Audrey Hepburn is an ugly slapper; mayo on chips is red shite Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 64 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:56:52 Now Myko, get yourself back to GP and get mended.You are totally amazing.I am just so glad you are not on the front line back home because you are so brave and committed you would think of your country before yourself. Colin Glassar 65 Posted 26/06/2024 at 18:57:43 Belgian team trying to leave the field without acknowledging their fans. Hope the French batter them now. Joe McMahon 66 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:01:17 A bit harsh isn't it, Ukraine try to attack and it was an entertaining game. England play negative dross (because of the manager) and go through to knock out. Colin Glassar 67 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:03:40 Phil K, is that a dig you're having at Myko? Paul Ferry 68 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:06:37 Unlike Kieran, I'm proud to disclose my sandwich: avocado used as butter, tuna mayo, red onion, touch of cumin Kieran Kinsella 69 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:09:43 I had stuffed poblanos today. Still no marmite in the stores. Paul Ferry 70 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:15:45 Good interview with Wayne on 5Live; talking a lot of sense and intelligent remarks Colin Glassar 71 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:16:34 I had a Popeyes chicken with the usual. Not bad but still prefer KFC when it comes to chicken. Billy Shears 72 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:17:31 Footy is such a cruel game,feel sorry for Ukraine,to go out of the competition on four points!Get well Myko and kudos to your team too,now to see how the Turks do!? Kieran Kinsella 73 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:18:15 ColinI didn't know Popeyes had made its way to the UK. I like their little chicken bites. Mike Gaynes 74 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:21:11 I used to eat at the original Popeyes in New Orleans 40 years ago. Now I take my nephew there whenever he comes to visit. Paul Ferry 75 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:22:31 I don't think that I've ever been to Popeyes; does everything come with olives Colin Glassar 76 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:24:14 Spinach and burgers, Paul. Not a fan of fast food but this was nice and moist with a hint of heat. Nice chips as well. Paul Ferry 77 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:31:36 Hmmm, eenie meenie miney mo:Golden BBQ Bacon & Cheese Chicken SandwichOur buttermilk battered all white meat chicken breast featuring our all-new BBQ Honey Mustard. Served on a butter toasted brioche bun with barrel cured pickles, a premium slice of Havarti cheese, and three half slices of hickory smoked bacon.Spicy Chicken SandwichA juicy chicken breast fillet marinated in Popeyes seasonings, hand battered and breaded in our buttermilk system, fried until golden brown. Sandwiched between two buttery toasted brioche buns, topped with our barrel cured pickle slices and spicy mayo. Now add Bacon & Cheese to any sandwich.12Pc Wings12Pc Crispy chicken wings marinated in a ghost pepper spice blend before they're hand breaded and fried to a perfect crunch, these wings are the perfect balance of flavor and fire.Pc Chicken Meal4 pieces of our signature chicken, marinated for 12hrs in our traditional savory Louisiana herbs and seasonings then battered up with our crunchy southern coating and fried until golden brown. Colin Glassar 78 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:35:16 I'm having pasta for me tea. Paul Ferry 79 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:41:45 Just pasta, that's really odd. Do you salt and pepper it Col, maybe even some naughty basil? Jamie Crowley 80 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:44:20 I went to Tulane University in New Orleans, there's Popeye's everywhere in NOLA.Love their spicy chicken. Can also get red beans and rice with a quality biscuit. Good Southern fare for fast food. Also, excellent hangover food for what it's worth. Colin Glassar 81 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:47:01 Good god no, Paul. I'm not foreign. Paul Ferry 82 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:50:12 Well reveal man, reveal, sauce, protein, veggies, fresh basil, I need ideas Col Colin Glassar 83 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:54:23 The wife's making it. I'm watching the telly. I believe mushrooms, wine, bacon and even garlic might be involved. Colin Glassar 84 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:56:28 Nice touch by Roberto belting out the Portuguese anthem. Paul Ferry 85 Posted 26/06/2024 at 19:59:32 Sounds good mate. I'm watching the Czechs v The Turks (more interesting match perhaps?). The Czech coach and his staff look like our three hard-boiled eggs. Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 86 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:03:36 Colin,For the life of me, I cannot see how you can interpret that as a dig at Vitalii Mykolenko.His commitment to the cause, be it Everton, be it Ukraine, is immense. If he was in the Ukrainian Army and two of his mates were lying injured and needed to be dragged to safety, he would be the volunteer to go and get them.The guy is immense. Just witness the fist hammering on the floor when he got injured. I have nothing but admiration for the guy.Back to the war analogy. If I was fighting, he would be the guy I would want next to me. Paul Ferry 87 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:04:52 Phil, Colin might have been tongue in cheek, your post was top drawer. Mike Gaynes 88 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:09:26 Just an old sweet song has Georgia on my mind!!!!!!Hey Jamie, did you enjoy Game 7? Hell of a hockey game. The rest of these guys just don't understand what a Game 7 is like. Kieran Kinsella 89 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:22:26 Bloody helll Czechia red card. Paul Ferry 90 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:22:46 That comment about game 7 was serially dealt with when you posted it first time on another thread MG!!It's Ice hockey, by the way, not hockey, a totally different sport! And we "Merseysiders"/Englanders have more than our fair share of Game 7's every season - remember we have promotion and relegation and play-offs. Colin Glassar 91 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:23:52 “I am just so glad you are not on the front line back home because you are so brave and committed you would think of your country before yourselfâ€Phil, sorry for the misunderstanding, I took it the wrong way. I interpreted it as you saying he was nice and safe rather than being on the front line. He is a very brave young boy like most of his fellow countrymen. Paul Ferry 92 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:24:20 Czechs have to win don't they? Kieran Kinsella 93 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:25:10 Paul, yes they do. and either them or Georgia need to for us to avoid Koeman and his acolytes. Paul Ferry 94 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:29:05 Ah, good info Kieran. Shane Corcoran 95 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:29:33 Surely that's a penalty on Ronaldo. Colin Glassar 96 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:31:03 The Villi's are doing well. Rob Jones 97 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:31:36 "Yes, he pulled you over, Ronaldo, but you mustn't question my authority and challenge the blatantly wrong decision. Card for you."By the way, I'd love to know what people make of Roberto Martinez's work with Portugal. I don't really see that much more sophistication in the style given that he's managed for another 8 years after we sacked him.Thoughts? Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 98 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:37:04 That's OK Colin.Paul - Well said. It is Ice Hockey they play over there and all places up north. Have you ever seen Bandy? Very much a north of 55 degrees game played on a hockey pitch sized outdoor rink (great being a spectator when it is -20c; that's -4 in your money Mike 😉) with 11 a side and a ball? Kieran Kinsella 99 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:39:21 Czechia really playing like classic Argentina here. Dirty fouls, diving, arguing with officials. Just a handball away from equalizing. Shane Corcoran 100 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:41:05 I was just warming to the No 7 but it turns out he's just a diving shit like half the rest of them. Colin Glassar 101 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:41:38 Hope the Czechs go out. Even more boring to watch than England Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 102 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:45:16 Keiran,Koeman and his acolytes. Do they include the best central defender in the world who my kid told me today played the Austrian Sabitzer about 2 yards onside for the third goal?Probably Pickford's fault Colin Glassar 103 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:45:54 The Villi's look like, and play like, MMA fighters. Liam Mogan 104 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:46:06 Can't ever watch Georgia without thinking of their most infamous son. Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili aka Uncle Joe Stalin. He's still quite popular there too which is frightening. Edward Rogers 105 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:47:39 Dreadful decision for the sending off, truly dreadful. Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 106 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:49:04 BBC comment - - - Cristiano Ronaldo again agitated by the decision, although the referee looked to have got it spot on. Ronaldo, on a booking, needs to be careful or he's going to talk himself into an early bath.What's the voting here? How many would cheer from the rooftops is CR7 got a Red for 2 cases of arguing with the Ref? Go on Christiano, you can do it. Remember Rattin in the 1966 World Cup? Kieran Kinsella 107 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:49:35 PhilProbably was Pickford's fault, certainly couldn't have been Koeman's. I imagine he referred to the team as "they" and "The Netherlands" in the presser as opposed to "we" and "us." Colin Glassar 108 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:50:57 Aka Koba to his friends, Liam. Apparently, there are still statues of him in Tbilisi. Beria (NKVD) was another Georgian. And their wine is considered the best in the Soviet Union. I still call countries by their real names. Paul Ferry 109 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:51:16 I sort of agree Edward but more that it could happen than did happen. The ref really had no other choice, the lad made two yellow card - today's yellow card - tackles and it's on him not the ref. Paul Tran 110 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:54:09 Never mind the football, Brave Knight won on his hurdles debut today. Absolutely hosed up! Paul Ferry 111 Posted 26/06/2024 at 20:55:07 Young Stalin is a wonderful book on Stalin coming of age in Georgia (the book ends when he leaves for Moscow). I think it's much more likely that present-day Georgians respect Stalin more for his leadership in the nationalist/independence struggles than for what came later. Mike Gaynes 112 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:02:13 Phil, I played what y'all call "ice hockey" as a kid on a pond in Illinois where those temperatures were not uncommon.I have never liked CR7 and if he shouts himself into a red card I will enjoy it immensely. Liam Mogan 113 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:03:25 Yes Paul both of those books by Montefiore on Stalin are excellent. A lot of his inner circle were Georgians like Beria and most were evil human beings. Find it hard to rationalise still having statues of him throughout the country, no matter what the circumstances. And not sure he was exactly in favour of independent nations, being one of the fathers of the USSR.On your USSR note Colin, whilst watching the Euros since the fall of Berlin Wall, I always think back to that outstanding young Yugoslavia team that was kicked out of the 92 tournament. What a side that was. Had just won Youth World Cup and would have been a real force if pesky freedom and independence hadn't got in the way. Kieran Kinsella 114 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:05:24 LiamThat was a great team. Funny thing is that Denmark were drafted in at the 11th hour and initially some of their players didn't want to go as they were jetting off on holidays. Then they won the whole thing. Jamie Crowley 115 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:05:25 Mike back @ 88 -Best hockey game I've ever watched possibly.The effort by both teams was sublime. What I was just wonderfully flabbergasted by was Florida at the end of the game literally throwing their bodies in front of the puck. They didn't care that piece of rubber might shatter their jaws, break bones, etc. They just had no regard for their bodies and blocked everything.I can tell you, as a player who HATED blocking shots and did it poorly on purpose because if freaking hurts like hell if it missed a pad, that is bravery and commitment on a whole different level.I was rooting for Edmonton. Amazing comeback, great hockey city, and I'm not a big fan of South Florida. But after seeing the Florida players put their bodies on the line like that? Fair nuff.Amazing game of hockey. One of the best. Rob Halligan 116 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:05:35 Christiano Ronaldo......... one piece of shit!! Paul Ferry 117 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:06:23 The Court of the Red Tsar Liam? I think it's that. I read that one first, I think it came out first, though makes better sense the other way round. Agree completely, a great book that really gets you inside Stalin's palace. Liam Mogan 118 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:08:45 Yes that's the one Paul. I'd recommend Jerusalem by the same author also.I loved that Denmark team Kieran. John Jensen scored a cracker in final. Arsenal thought they were getting a goalscoring midfielder and he only got one in about 200 games! Dale Self 119 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:09:04 The Yugoslavian teams were a thrill to watch. Mike Gaynes 120 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:10:15 It was special, Jamie. Paul Ferry 121 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:10:39 It's ice hockey Jamie (do the research, or, at least, google wiki hockey!!!!) and I prefer sports where I can see the whatdayoucall it ball, buck, suck, tuck. I only really like one Yank sport, college basketball (I used to live in Chapel Hill). I do like going to Wrigley Field in person but on TV it's one long yawn. Ice hockey is bottom of the table for major Yank sports, horrible sport. just my opinion. Kieran Kinsella 122 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:10:44 We could have done with someone like Beria in the Everton boardroom to purge all the clowns. Colin Glassar 123 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:10:50 Stalin had Molotov's (foreign minister) wife locked up for treason and Molotov had to thank him for it. Sound a bit like MAGA to me. C'mon Georgia. Paul Ferry 124 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:12:05 Lovely finish. Does that still mean that Southgate's shower still play the Dutch Kieran? Paul Ferry 125 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:13:12 Stalin was/is hemisphere's more intelligent than the next president of these united states Col. Jamie Crowley 126 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:13:31 Holy shit what a save by the Georgia keeper! Wow. Jamie Crowley 127 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:14:03 If this is a PK I give upAbsolutely NEVER a PK Rob Halligan 128 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:14:38 Penalty Georgia. Watch Ronaldo throw a wobbler!! Liam Mogan 129 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:14:44 Despite the connection to one of the 2 most murderous dictators of the 20th century I hope Georgia win.And its a cracking game tbf. Nailed on pen. Mike Gaynes 130 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:14:50 Wow, pen? Really? Mike Gaynes 131 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:14:50 Wow, pen? Really? Jamie Crowley 132 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:14:56 That's an absolute fucking dive. Soccer is just absolute bullshit at points.That's a dive, a con, and it's rewarded. Just fuck off with these rules.Ruins the sport completely Kieran Kinsella 133 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:15:21 LiamKim Vilvort too was in that team and his young daughter was rushed to hospital with leukemia and she convinced him to go back and play the final and then he scored the second goal. Rob Halligan 134 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:15:30 All day a penalty, Jamie. Dale Self 135 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:16:25 Good for Paul Maurice by the way. The Stanley cup final was not physical enough for my taste in ICE (get in the cage!) hockey. Jamie Crowley 136 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:16:38 This is exactly why I don't watch hardly any soccer other than Everton and the USA.I feel like I've just wasted time watching this, even though I was more listening while working.This is just shit. Absolutely ruined the game, rewarded a cheating cnut, on VAR even!Fuck off Paul Ferry 137 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:16:48 Nailed on pen that Jamie. Kieran Kinsella 138 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:16:58 ColinDid you ever meet Mrs Molotov? Maybe she was a nagger. Colin Glassar 139 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:17:07 Get in Georgia. Surely he can't win, Paul? Tell me he can't. Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 140 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:18:07 Amazing what money gets you.Most 24 year old kids from Stockport shacked up with his girlfriend who is just about to give birth to #3 - the first when they were still teenagers probably would look at a life on benefits and a dysfunctional family with social services concerned about the kids.But when you are called Phil Foden with all his millions. . . . . . . The haves and the havenots. He should be thanking Jimmy Hill every night. https://youtu.be/oUVg2yeXt1w - more interesting than the football!!! Liam Mogan 141 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:18:08 Did his daughter beat lukemia Kieran? I hope so pal. Been there and seen what it can do. Kieran Kinsella 142 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:18:25 Hopefully Georgia won't repeat Keegan's England versus Portugal 2-0 capitulation in 2000. Jamie Crowley 143 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:18:26 Rob -He BARELY makes contact, the player dives trying to cheat and get a PK, and is rewarded.Just because there's contact that does not equate to a PK.It was a dive. Anyone with eyes can see that - except soccer officials and experts who are clearly idiots and have no issue ruining games and the sport writ large. Mike Gaynes 144 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:18:29 Yeah, it was a pen, but my dog has kicked me harder than that, and he only weighs 7 pounds. Jamie Crowley 145 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:19:56 OK Ronaldo was just wrapped up and it stopped a header.Why wasn't that a pen but the feather touch equates to a dive IS a PK?Game is beyond fucked up. Paul Ferry 146 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:20:56 Mike's right Jamie. You seem circled by people who think it was a pen. When do the Yanks play next in Copa? Colin Glassar 147 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:21:31 Kieran, she was a knitter so she could've been a nagger I suppose. Liam Mogan 148 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:22:03 Mrs Molotov got locked up in the gulags for years for being an enemy of the state and Molotov wasn't allowed any contact and still worked as Foreign Secretary. It'd be like Sunak sending Camerons wife to Walton nick and Call me Dave not mentioning it. Paul Ferry 149 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:22:15 It's good of Fox streaming to let us watch both games side by side. Mike Gaynes 150 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:22:20 Ronaldo should have won that pen too, Jamie, but when you've sat on the ground with your arms out three times before, the ref gets tired of it. Rob Halligan 151 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:24:58 Jamie . badly makes contact, therefore there was contact. Enough to make the player go down. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it was a 100% penalty, but enough to send the referee to the monitor and give it. Anywhere else on the pitch and it's a foul, so why not in the penalty area? Colin Glassar 152 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:25:26 Georgians playing like their lives depend on it. Someone should tell them Stalin is dead. If England only had an ounce of 5heir passion. Jamie Crowley 153 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:25:46 Mike -Does the ref ever get tired of feather contact turned into a dive turned into a PK?🤔Sorry man. I don't care if I'm outnumbered. This PK is exactly what is wrong with soccer and VAR. It pisses me off because it's a perfect example of what holds soccer back in America. Fucking grown men rolling around on the ground like they were shot 12 times with an AR, dives, simulation shite, etc. Drives me mad because I love this sport but it gets hijacked by effeminate men seemingly who don't know how to stay on their feet!Ferry piss drunk would stay upright more than these pussies! Paul Ferry 154 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:26:10 That Portugal kit is like a poor man's Pollock, it's fecking awful Paul Ferry 155 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:26:36 Wow Czechs level Kieran Kinsella 156 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:27:58 ColinMaybe if we send the England team bus to the Georgia hotel on Sunday they'll see the red cross, think its for them and fill in for Harry and the boys. Soren Moyer 157 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:28:01 Messi rules, full stop! Ronaldo is a cheating bastard.New lies for old. What a book by the way. Paul Ferry 158 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:28:06 You gotta watch this insane ref in the Czech game - he's booked 13 or 14 Liam Mogan 159 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:30:08 Was it a foul.on the Turkey keeper Paul? Only saw it shown briefly on ITV Jamie Crowley 160 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:30:11 Rob -I don't call that as a foul in the middle of the pitch m'man! Like, never! Paul Ferry 161 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:30:57 Wasn't given as one Liam but it sure looked like one to me Paul Ferry 162 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:31:23 Don't ever put Jamie on VAR duty. Jamie Crowley 163 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:32:28 Paul -Be assured I'd be a big proponent of "Let 'em play".😂 Paul Ferry 164 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:32:57 If the Czechs do win this they will be on exactly the same points/goal difference as Georgia who will surely go through on fewer disciplinary points - Czechs have had what six or seven yellows and a red in this game so far. Colin Glassar 165 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:34:27 That Conceicao looks decent. I think this tournament has been great. Mike Gaynes 166 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:37:13 Tosun on for the Turks. They just got three or four yellow cards protesting a goal. Jamie Crowley 167 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:39:08 Colin -The tournament has been great. No question.My tirade over the PK is a personal issue I have with the sport. The tournament has been fantastic and full of unexpected results and some excellent games. Liam Mogan 168 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:40:39 What's Cenk's hair like? I think Wayne Rooney borrowed it earlier today so I hope it's still in good condition. Kieran Kinsella 169 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:40:50 PaulYou're right they've had twice as many yellows as Georgia in the tournament Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 170 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:43:04 Not enough yellow cards for diving.If it is not a penalty and the player appeals, it must be a dive and a yellow card.Because refs don't come down hard on that then they all dive. Paul Ferry 171 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:43:22 OMG the Czecks score, the ref calls it back for a foul, but clearly no foul and the Turkey defender handled it!!!!!! Clattenburg says there was no foul, there was a penalty, and the goal should have stood. If you want to go mad Jamie, watch this fucking Romanian ref and that non goal Mike Gaynes 172 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:44:42 Czechs legit gamewinner ruled out. Ref completely coming apart. Trying to set a record for yellows and getting fouls backwards.Jamie #153, are you old enough to remember Henri Richard? Claude Lemieux? I know you've seen Johnny Gaudreau and Bunting. And in the NBA you'll remember Bill Laimbeer and Robert Horry flopping for fouls and winning titles with it. There are fakes in every sport. Jamie Crowley 173 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:46:00 Paul I only have the Portugal game on. I'll look for the dual watch feature.The panel at halftime said the ref intuit game was having an awful one. Sounds like it's gotten worse! Paul Ferry 174 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:46:45 JChttps://www.foxsports.com/soccer/euro-cup-czech-republic-vs-turkey-jun-26-2024-game-boxscore-132213 Colin Glassar 175 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:47:13 Englands players should be made to watch these Georgians play. Paul Ferry 176 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:48:00 Actually Kieran, if t he Czechs score they will have a better goal difference than Turkey who will finish 4th Kieran Kinsella 177 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:48:18 Is the Romanian ref called Clive Thomasescu by chance? Mike Gaynes 178 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:48:46 This Romanian ref is going to get his next game in the Bucharest Under-16 league. As a linesman. Paul Ferry 179 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:48:57 Get on the Czech/Turkey gamehttps://www.foxsports.com/soccer/euro-cup-czech-republic-vs-turkey-jun-26-2024-game-boxscore-132213 Liam Mogan 180 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:49:40 They've been brilliant Colin. Kudos to them and they deserve to go through. Paul Ferry 181 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:49:59 another yellow Rob Jones 182 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:51:03 Never a penalty. On-field decision was spot-on (which is rare, this referee has had an awful game), VAR then slow it down and make it look far worse than it was.The game's confused. Either it's simulation from a player who's made the most of a fucking caress, or we're admitting that any contact is a penalty. Mike Gaynes 183 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:51:05 Potential gamewinning attack for the Turks... and Cenk with the worst pass you'll ever see. Jamie Crowley 184 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:51:38 I just switched over. Jamie Crowley 185 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:52:58 I need to see the disallowed goal! Mike Gaynes 186 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:53:15 Colin #175, they should be made to watch any of these three teams. The passions have been incredible. What a treat on a routine Wednesday afternoon. Paul Ferry 187 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:53:33 Tosun the twat Jamie Crowley 188 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:53:33 CENK!!!! HAHAHAHA Neil Tyrrell 189 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:53:52 Cenk Tosun! Jamie Crowley 190 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:54:07 That was a bullet. Why couldn't he do that for us??? Liam Mogan 191 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:54:40 Cenk! What a finish Kunal Desai 192 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:54:50 Super Cenk!! Paul Ferry 193 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:54:55 He never fecking did that for us Paul Ferry 194 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:55:23 another yellow Liam Mogan 195 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:55:29 That's what happens when you share Rooneys hair Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 196 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:55:31 Loved the one from Roy Keane the other night which now becomesWhat a terrible ball from Cenk Tosun. I have seen better passes on Mastermind. Jamie Crowley 197 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:56:09 Will the ref get assaulted? I think it's a possibility listening to the commentary.I certainly hope not! Paul Ferry 198 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:56:44 I have mixed feelings JC Mike Gaynes 199 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:57:44 Cenk Tosun. Turkish legend. He will never buy his own beer again. Paul Ferry 200 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:57:58 theres a red Jamie Crowley 201 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:58:09 Here we go! Fracas! Paul Ferry 202 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:58:26 2 more yellows Jamie Crowley 203 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:59:22 They need to wear gloves so they can drop them. Liam Mogan 204 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:59:28 Refs booking everyone after the final whistle! Now a red. Wtf Neil Tyrrell 205 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:59:48 That ref was an absolute joke (Czech Turkiye) Mike Gaynes 206 Posted 26/06/2024 at 21:59:58 The Fox commentators called it... "this is gonna kick off at the end"... and it did. Liam Mogan 207 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:00:16 Beer in turkey is pish anyway Colin Glassar 208 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:01:37 Great games to finish the group stage. Some of these Balkan, Caucasian and Central European players are insane. Love it Paul Ferry 209 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:03:11 That's Fletch MG, a regular BBC 5LIVE commentator, head and shoulders above anyone else commentating on Fox Robert Tressell 210 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:03:28 What a player Kvaratskelia is. Brilliant Georgia Liam Mogan 211 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:04:18 Worked out nicely for the Gozzy Eyed Capitalist Twat (Â©ï¸ Paul Ferry) with England now facing Slovakia rather than Van Dicjk, Koeman and the rest of the narcissistic orange bastards. Paul Ferry 212 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:05:32 Yep Liam, the gozzy-eyed capitalist twat got a lucky break there. Mike Gaynes 213 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:06:50 68 places between Georgia and Portugal. Jamie Crowley 214 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:07:15 Dude they just showed the brackets. England actually has a road of gold.They couldn't ask for a better road to the final.Somehow, they'll blow it Paul Ferry 215 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:07:30 Robert, Thelwell should be combing through Georgia, Turkey, Slovakia, Slovenia with a fine toothcomb. Michael Kenrick 216 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:07:34 The Round of 16:29 June – Berlin: Switzerland v Italy 29 June – Dortmund: Germany v Denmark 30 June – Cologne: Spain v Georgia 30 June – Gelsenkirchen: England v Slovakia 1 July – Frankfurt: Portugal v Slovenia 1 July – Düsseldorf: France v Belgium 2 July – Munich: Romania v Netherlands 2 July – Leipzig: Austria v Turkey Dave Cashen 218 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:08:31 A few teams have pleasantly surprised us, but none of the fancied teams have really laid down a marker.All to play for. If somebody could kidnap Southgate. We'd have half a chance of winning this Michael Kenrick 219 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:10:48 Jamie,If they get past Slovakia, then Italy could be next, and that might not be exactly a walk in the park for Southgate's Sloths. Colin Glassar 220 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:14:22 Jamie you, quite rightly, I hate VAR and all the cheating. Paul F hates some Darke guy but neither of you have to suffer this gringa we have checking all these dodgy decisions. She's so fucking annoying and robotic in speech. Paul Ferry 221 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:15:28 On current form, La Suisse should beat beat Italy MK.Some tasty games there. Austria v Turkey will be a cracker, France v Belgium etc. Billy Shears 222 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:19:19 Really enjoyed the Turkey game but the ref was dogshit!!What a difference to the England game from last night, almost like watching two different sports! Phil (Kelsall) Roberts 226 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:30:12 Let's be honest. That ref for Turkey v Czech. Is he worse than Anthony Taylor? Jamie Crowley 227 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:30:58 Michael -Yes, very true. BUT! Would you rather be Germany, France, Portugal or Spain?The other side of the bracket is a freaking minefield! England has gotten so freaking lucky it's unbelievable. Will they capitalize on it? I highly doubt it. They'll go up a goal against someone, not play to their strengths and try to protect a lead, and blow it. They're as frustrating as that penalty against Portugal we had today!Mike Gaynes - Of course I remember that game. The better one was the Spartan's "blocked punt" win against that other team in Michigan. Neil Tyrrell 231 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:41:33 Playing catch-up here.Happy for Georgia, they went after it every match and deservedly advanced. Gutted for Mykolenko and Ukraine, that's a harsh way to go out.Game 7 was just ok to me, FLA did a great job of shutting down McDavid and it worked - kinda like the Devils of old. Made up for Paul Maurice though, that guy is pure class. The Leafs never should have got rid of him. Yeah I know, the Leafs...have at 'er.Most importantly, Kieran: you can get huge tubs of marmite on Amazon for a decent price and they're way easier to deal with than the classic jars. There's no reason to run out. Colin Glassar 232 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:45:56 I'm still slightly breathless after tonight's games. Kieran, I'm not a fan of tax dodging, slave driving Amazon, but I do buy my favourite German mustard from them and a nice Italian aperitif (frangelico) from them, the swines. Robert Tressell 233 Posted 26/06/2024 at 22:55:15 Paul #215,Too right. Kvaratskelia joined Napoli for about £11m in 2022. He looked like the new George Best for Rubin Kazan in Russia but with poor end product. There was then a game against Spain where he ran the show and there's been plenty of end product since. The players are always out there. Tom Bowers 234 Posted 26/06/2024 at 23:05:52 I agree, no teams have set the competition on fire for all three games although Spain and Germany look the part.England's best players have not yet risen to the occasion although playing the most part of all three games so we all hope that changes for the knockout stage.Sad to see Mykolenko getting crocked again as he is the best we have in that position. Nicholas Ryan 235 Posted 27/06/2024 at 00:39:18 Turkey win with a stunning piece of finishing from Cenk Tosun.... I really don't know whether to laugh or cry! Dan Parker 236 Posted 27/06/2024 at 03:18:02 Rondon and Cenk Tosun score on the same day, funny old game. Rondon actually looks much fitter and lively than his days with us. Don Alexander 237 Posted 27/06/2024 at 04:01:44 Rondon and Tosun being even selected tells us a lot about how mundane international football has long since been. Mike Gaynes 238 Posted 27/06/2024 at 06:51:18 Jamie #227, being a former Spartan myself I'll never forget it.Dan #236, seeing our old friend Rondon beat Mexico was pure pleasure for every Yank. Danny O’Neill 239 Posted 27/06/2024 at 06:51:54 That was some finish by Tosun! Mick O'Malley 240 Posted 27/06/2024 at 12:38:48 Cracking finish by Tosun, I've been impressed by Georgia, and for me Lobotka of Slovakia has stood out, bossing the midfield, tenacious with a good range of passing.The Belgium game was shocking; as good as Doku is running with the ball, his end product is very hit-and-miss. I've noticed that a lot of teams in this tournament are allergic to crossing the ball; instead, they play it square or backwards. I've very rarely seen one skin the full-back and cross it or get to the byline and pull it back, so infuriating. Alan McGuffog 241 Posted 27/06/2024 at 12:43:29 Mick, I've noticed that... the reluctance to get the ball in early, from promising wide positions. I can only think that a lot of sides break so quickly, the wide men have to wait for the forwards to be in best position. Obviously this doesn't include Ingerland! Jamie Crowley 242 Posted 28/06/2024 at 00:59:26 I fucking hate Panama.The ref was TERRIBLE.Surely Berhalter is out if we don't make it through the group stages? Neil Tyrrell 243 Posted 28/06/2024 at 01:10:06 Tough loss Jamie, backup keeper should have saved the second goal. Idiotic from Weah to get sent off. Panama are indeed extremely unlikeable, that foul on Pulisic was brutal. Kieran Kinsella 244 Posted 28/06/2024 at 01:30:26 JamieWorst thing about Copa America is all the empty seats due to sky-high prices. Peru v Canada in Kansas City – cheapest tickets $100. Not exactly a lot of Peruvians or Canadians here but lots of football fans who may have paid $40. times Hope this isn't how the World Cup is or we will be looking at empty stadia. As I say $100 was the cheapest but they went as high at $400. God knows what it costs to see Brazil play on the East or West coast much less the knockout games. Jamie Crowley 245 Posted 28/06/2024 at 03:05:44 Kieran -Blow the $100 in a bar stuffed with fans on beer.It'll be more fun, and more economical in the end. Jamie Crowley 246 Posted 28/06/2024 at 03:07:22 Neil that loss is gutting. Even if we beat Uruguay we could miss out on goal differential.Stupid, stupid red by Weah. But I have to ask, how was there no card at all when Turner got wiped out moments before? I thought the ref had a terrible game.I told my boys the only good thing to come of this is maybe Berhalter is replaced if we don't make it out of the group. Kieran Kinsella 247 Posted 28/06/2024 at 03:14:22 JamieYeah this Berhalter the PE teacher makes Bruce Arena look like Pep Guardiola. They need to Get rid of this clown. Even Jesse Marsch is doing better. The taxes in Kansas City have been hiked to pay for World Cup infrastructure so I want some bang for my buck. I don't want to see the local team going home early after losing to Togo and Kosovo, Mike Gaynes 248 Posted 28/06/2024 at 03:31:57 Jamie, you'll definitely get your wish on Berhalter if he doesn't make it out of the group. A man down for 75 minutes is rough, but we still should have been able to protect a lead at home against a country 30 places below us. Leaving Musah on the bench all night was idiocy. I mean, Johnny fucking Cardoso? Really? Going to three centerbacks instead of bringing in Musah?Anyway we won't see Weah again for a loooooonnnnggg time. Moron. A yellow card on the guy who clattered Turner wouldn't have mattered a bit to the game, but yeah, he should have gotten one. I actually thought the ref had a good game. The other good thing to come out of this is that we do finally have a top-class American striker. Balogun is the real deal. Kieran Kinsella 249 Posted 28/06/2024 at 03:45:34 Mike,Wasn't Musah the English international you guys nicked off us around the time Musiala suddenly became German? You can't trust a fellow like that. Next thing you know, he will be in the North Korean Super League. Mike Gaynes 250 Posted 28/06/2024 at 04:36:43 Kieran, yup, and it wasn't just Musah. Berhalter also stole Balogun and Robinson from England, as well as Dest from the Dutch, the Tillman brothers from Germany and a couple of guys from Mexico. One thing this coach does really well is recruit. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb