Season › 2023-24 › News Leeds, Leicester and Burnley 'ready to sue' if Everton found guilty Michael Kenrick 03/10/2023 27comments | Jump to last Updated According to the Daily Mail, Leeds, Leicester and Burnley have written a joint letter to Everton's future owners 777 Partners to tell them they will sue the club for £300m if they are found guilty of breaking Premier League spending rules but this claim has been flatly rejected. Matt Hughes claims to have learned that the three clubs had penned a joint letter to 777 "asking them if they are aware of their plans to sue Everton pending the outcome of a Premier League independent commission on 25 October". This was on the basis that the three clubs feel that the League's failure to address the charges against Everton last season have helped Everton escape relegation by avoiding a points deduction in the interim. Nottingham Forest and Southampton are understood to have withdrawn from this anti-Everton bloc, as the former stayed in the Premier League whilst the latter finished 11 points behind fourth-bottom Everton so would not have survived even if the Goodison Park club had been docked points. Article continues below video content Hughes says he understands that the Premier League have acknowledged the existence of the letter to 777 Partners but both BBC Sport and the Liverpool Echo insist that, as of this afternoon, no such letter had been received by the Florida-based investment firm. » Read the full article at Mail Online Reader Comments (27) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Barry Hesketh 1 Posted 03/10/2023 at 13:07:09 The trio's letter to 777 was initially addressed to the Premier League, who are understood to have replied acknowledging the correspondence and stating they will pass on the information to Everton's would-be new owners. They haven't written to 777, have they? Why doesn't the Premier League tell all of the supposedly unhappy clubs to stop making waves, or they'll be docked points for bringing the league into disrepute? Another day, another pile of cack for Evertonians to deal with, but at least we know the greatest Evertonian is on the case, as we drift through life, waiting for the next scaremongering report. David Reed 2 Posted 03/10/2023 at 15:42:18 First, it's the Daily Mail. Second, if they claim that the Premier League didn't deal with it in due time — why aren't they suing them? Barry Hesketh 3 Posted 03/10/2023 at 16:47:48 If you're under the impression that Matt Hughes has his own agenda, you'd probably be right, given the montage put on Grand Old Team which I've hopefully linked correctly below.Matt Hughes Everton stories Rob Halligan 4 Posted 03/10/2023 at 16:52:19 Barry, you reckon he doesn't like us then? Barry Hesketh 5 Posted 03/10/2023 at 16:56:24 Rob @4It might not be because he doesn't like Everton per se, but he has a bee in his bonnet about somebody or something connected to the club, or because he 'believes' there is mileage in his pronouncements, so that eventually they will become the truth. Perhaps, he's just another troll who happens to be a sportswriter at the Mail.BBC reporter tweeted the following:Shamoon Hafez@ShamoonHafezAs of this afternoon, 777 Partners have not received a letter from the Premier League or any clubs about plans to sue Everton pending the outcome of the independent hearing on 25 October. #EFC Barry Hesketh 6 Posted 03/10/2023 at 17:25:52 Of course the Daily Mirror, via Felix Keith - Sports Reporter? regurgitates the whole sorry story @ 17:15, 3 Oct 2023. Despite the Liverpool Echo a stable mate of the Mirror, saying no letter has arrived at 777, as per MK's update in the OS. Brent Stephens 7 Posted 03/10/2023 at 17:32:49 I have no time for the Daily Mail. Having said that, the various stories in Barry's link at #3 are hardly daily pieces – looking at the timing of each one, they're spread over a fair length of time (from early 2002) and different substantive issues. Added to which, the snippets themselves only give the appearance of factual reporting. So hardly a daily agenda. And other papers have been doing the same.I'd be surprised if the press didn't report on such big issues. They are big issues. For the club, for its supporters (witness the number of articles on these different issues on ToffeeWeb and the number of posts), for the wider community, and for other clubs (consider what they might gain from some of the possible outcomes).But anyway, I still hate the Daily Mail! Barry Hesketh 8 Posted 03/10/2023 at 17:37:12 Brent @7They are nothing more than largely unsubstantiated opinion pieces from one Journalist, who never directly quotes any source. If that's what passes for 'reporting', I should have taken a different career path. What pisses me off the most is that one tweet from these characters and the whole media decide that it's worth running a couple of hundred word article based on some guy's opinion or gut-feeling or whatever it is, but whatever it is, it isn't necessarily factual. Brent Stephens 9 Posted 03/10/2023 at 17:47:51 Barry, as I say, I haven't read the full articles, only the snippets posted above. But these are big issues in themselves, not because some papers are making them into big issues. The possible docking of points and subsequent relegation is a massive and real issue. The possible default on debts or loss of our owner are massive and real issues. The threat of our going into administration is a massive and real issue. The possible take-over by 777 Partners or anybody else is a massive and real issue, especially considering the negative reputational damage and current problems 777 have been and still are facing. Kieran Kinsella 10 Posted 03/10/2023 at 17:48:45 Last year, it was reported after all these same stories that Premier League rules prevent clubs from suing each other. Barry Hesketh 11 Posted 03/10/2023 at 17:58:07 Of course many, if not all of the issues relating to Everton are true and of course we all share the same concerns about each and every one of them. However, is it the job of the media to inform us at every turn, of all of the possible ramifications and to do that by 'making-up' stuff simply to amplify how bad things are? I'd much prefer that the likes of Hughes set about looking for the reasons as to how a club of Everton's longevity and standing managed to get itself into such a precarious position, and who were the people involved that got us into that situation. Of course that doesn't gain clicks as much as sounding the death-knell every now and again, does it? It's little wonder that we [fans, public] often remain in the darkness when there's nobody to shine a light on things, which is what the fourth estate is meant to do, or it used to be, anyhow. Brent Stephens 12 Posted 03/10/2023 at 18:05:00 Barry, one day this will all be behind us, hopefully. Settled into the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. A positive balance sheet. A team that's threatening to win things.Ah, dreams. Pete Neilson 13 Posted 03/10/2023 at 18:05:48 That's the same Leicester City who gained promotion through financial doping, dragged the investigation out until the authorities had lost the will and paid a paltry £3M fine. By then the media had turned them into the plucky underdogs and didn't see the need of ruining their contrived fairy tale story. They also ran up £192M losses over 3 years before being relegated. Pot and kettle. Lyndon Lloyd 14 Posted 03/10/2023 at 18:08:32 Kieran (10),Which rather reinforces the notion that these clubs should be suing the Premier League and not Everton. (Assuming they even are planning to sue Everton, of course!) Sam Hoare 15 Posted 03/10/2023 at 18:15:02 File under tabloid nonsense from poor journalist with a dislike for Everton.Isn't the investigation into costs for the stadium anyway? So they can hardly blame our laying a few foundations for their deficiencies on the pitch! Chris Williams 16 Posted 03/10/2023 at 18:48:15 The Echo reporting that “sources†report that no such letter has been received at 777. Daily Mail article is kite-flying bullshit, full of errors, and regurgitated from other unsubstantiated articles. Kunal Desai 17 Posted 03/10/2023 at 18:49:19 Go away, Daily Mail. Go away, Matt Hughes. Must be one boring day for them. What shall we fill our pages with today, lets do a story on... errrrrr... Everton. Another failed piece. Must do better next time, Hughes. Mark Taylor 18 Posted 03/10/2023 at 19:14:51 There's no point in shooting the messenger, however bad their website is- and boy, is it bad, presumably it's making its money from a million ads, not subscription.Rather than fret over media owners who have it in for us, is it not time to look at ourselves in the mirror and understand what we have become, through our owners and management's dereliction of duty? A club on its knees if not its back.Moshiri talked earlier this year about an existential crisis and I believe he meant our extinction, at least in terms of the club we know. This is no longer a longs odds chance. My own, possibly wild guess, is a 33% chance. Barry Hesketh 19 Posted 03/10/2023 at 19:33:37 Mark @18,It's really not a case of shooting the messenger, is it? We are led to believe that we are in a perilous situation, but to what extent? It would seem only a few actually know how bad things are or how bad they may become. Why should we as supporters have to look in the mirror? What is it that we've done that has accelerated the decline of Everton Football Club? Only one Evertonian has any responsibility for the decline of this club and he doesn't even attend Goodison Park. It is he and his band of fellow crazies who should have looked in the mirror a long, long time ago. A little bit more scrutiny by the likes of Hughes and the local sports journalists would also have been handy, as it may have prevented some of the ridiculous decisions that have been made in the last few years. Mark Taylor 20 Posted 03/10/2023 at 22:13:39 Barry,I'm not looking back, I'm looking at the present, and we are in the gutter and not seeing the stars.Of course it's not our fault, but then I don't see the media, or certainly this article, suggesting it is. Maybe you're right that they could have done better seeing the possibility of our current plight. For sure some on here have. But that doesn't alter my point. Derek Thomas 21 Posted 03/10/2023 at 22:44:31 "Life ain't easy for a boy named Sue" sang Johnny Cash.Burnley, Leeds (dirty, dirty Leeds) and Leicester? Have at it, knock yourselves out etc. Sue us for what? We haven't got a pot to piss in.Oh and don't spend your £1 token damages (split 3 ways) all in the one shop.What do you actually want, back in the Premier League? And which one of Leeds (dirty, dirty Leeds) Leicester will get promoted then – you can't relegate us twice. Or do Burnley want a Mulligan if they drop down again this year?With the RS media circus postulating having a goal added or even replays, where will it end... lost the pre-game toss? – Off to The International Court of Human Rights in The Hague.I think (hope) the Premier League have rules to forbid this sort of shite.Save your money; you couldn't punish Everton any more than we are currently doing to ourselves.You never get what you deserve, but you usually deserve what you get - All 4 of us! Oliver Molloy 22 Posted 03/10/2023 at 23:35:18 No matter what way you look at it. the fact is we are in serious trouble on the pitch and off it. Alan J Thompson 23 Posted 04/10/2023 at 03:51:48 Is there nothing in the Premier League's rule that defines how and which clubs are relegated and promoted, rules I assume by which all clubs have agreed to abide? Or, like the VAR are interpreted as suits? Frank Crewe 24 Posted 04/10/2023 at 14:00:13 How would this even work? The most points a Premier League club can get in a season is 114. The fewer points a club gets, the nearer to relegation it gets. The reason Burnley, Leicester and Leeds were relegated was because they got the least amount of points. Whether Everton overspent a bit had nothing to do with it at all. To complain that somehow the two games they each played against Everton out of the 38 games they played made some major contribution to them going down is simply absurd. The reason the three clubs I have mentioned went down was because Burnley lost 17 games and Leicester and Leeds both lost over 20 games. Even if Everton had won the league, they would still have been relegated. They are basically trying to blame any club that finished slightly above them for them getting relegated. Might as well blame a lousy VAR decision. A deflected shot, injuries etc etc. Clubs have been getting relegated since 1892 when Division Two was founded. It's part of the game as every club knows. So to start making complaints now is simply ridiculous and there is no court in the UK where their arguments would survive any scrutiny at all. Steve Shave 25 Posted 05/10/2023 at 14:40:15 Even though this piece is run in the Daily Mail, I think there may be some merit in it. It has been mentioned before that these clubs wish to take legal action.However, I believe that because it's possible, this will be a factor behind why we won't get found guilty in our hearing. If we did, it would set a precedent and make the whole P&S thing even more of a shit show than it already is. Chelsea meanwhile spend £1Billion, nobody bats an eyelid. Ian Horan 26 Posted 05/10/2023 at 15:00:09 Maybe Everton should instruct solicitors to pursue Leeds, Leicester and Burnley for trying to illegally influence the sale of Everton. Surely any claim for compensation would be against the Premier League given Everton we're operating under their guidance and their sign-off of all things Everton!! Just a thought, I really don't want 777 Partners. If Rights & Media Funding are in agreement that 777 Partners are acceptable but MSP Sports Capital aren't, then Kenwright must be in bed with R&MF (meet the new Chairman, Chairman Bill)??? Bob Parrington 27 Posted 06/10/2023 at 07:25:25 I doubt there would be any grounds for suing Everton if we are found to have not fully abided by the FFS rules. Just whingeing by poor losers. Wouldn't go down well with the football community as a whole and I reckon would put them each on a "taboo" status. They should take it on the chin, suck it up and become "men" again! Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb