NICK ARMITAGE COLUMN

Funny Old Game

By Nick Armitage :  04/01/2009 :  Comments (18) :
The draw for the FA Cup Fourth Round can?t have even been completed before my phone started beeping. This was due entirely to the hilarious text messages I was receiving from gloating kopites. I could picture them up and down the country in their Ikea clad lounges, drinking Carlsberg, wearing Istanbul T shirts as they were glued to their plasma screens watching the draw.

The funniest text was from a cousin who said that Everton had to expect to beat the best team in the land to win the FA Cup ? I replied to remind that very same cousin that we had been drawn against Liverpool, and not Manchester United. And yes you did read that correctly, I do unfortunately have redshite related to me.

As a result of this draw, millions of kopites from Taunton to Peterborough are now rubbing themselves into a frenzy at the thought of seeing their Mighty Reds thrash the bitters twice in one week ? and they?ll get to watch them both live ? on the telly. It?s the only option you know because the Kop has a seven-year waiting list for season tickets.

Funny then, how plane loads of kopites from Norway and coach loads of redshite from the Home Counties or Wales can get tickets every week. But hard pressed committed Liverpool fans from Merseyside are never able to get tickets for their beloved Mighty Reds that they watch week-in, week-out ? on the telly. Perhaps they should try ringing the box office at Anfield more than once a decade...

And taking about committed fans, I don?t know a single kopite who has visited Goodison Park on more occasions than I have. Conversely, I know plenty of Liverpool ?fans? who have been to Anfield far fewer times than I have. Just about sums them up.

One of the first derbies I went to was at Goodison in the FA Cup Fifth Round. I sat on a barrier in the Gwladys Street and from what I remember we battered them. But Ray Houghton scored a typically shitty header in front of the old Park End and they beat us 1-0. Our luck against them hasn?t really changed much in the 20 years that have followed. I have watched us play them God knows how many times but I haven?t seen us win many.

It doesn?t matter what we throw at them, we?ll still get beat ? blatant handballs, bad tackles, disallowed penalties, offside goals, the list goes on and on and on against that shower. In all my years of watching Everton, I can?t think of a team that has had more good luck against us than them. If there are such things as bogey teams, ours is most definitely Liverpool.

Anyway, the result of this next cup encounter with our friends will be a forgone conclusion if we play like we did at Macclesfield. The appalling record of Moyes in all cup competitions looks like it is going to continue. We may as well play the kids, otherwise we?ll end up with at least one important player on a three match ban for two dodgy bookings.

Experience has taught me to expect disappointment, anything else is a bonus. But you never know, football is a funny old game... it is just rarely funny when we play those fuckers.

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Anthony Dyer
1   Posted 04/01/2009 at 20:22:15

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Since I started going to Goodison in the early 70s, our record against our rivals is pretty bleak. In all competitions it reads
Pl 90 W 17 D31 L42 GF 76 GA 123
So all those who are ready to have a go at DM if we fail to win either or both games, lay off as the pattern has been in place for some time.

However, I will applaud DM long and loud if he goes into the next month convincing his squad that they are capable of getting positive results rather than focussing on what the opposition might do to us. This is DM?s chance to prove his doubters wrong, after all what has he got to lose?

Does anyone know where I can book a log cabin with no modern means of communication for the next 4 weeks? I know there?ll be a few empty cabins in Scandinavia available for a full week in January...

Nick Armitage
2   Posted 04/01/2009 at 20:46:16

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Hi Anthony

If you need an empty log cabin somewhere in Scandanavia I suggest you drop these zany guys a message.

Liverpool FC Supporters Club Scandinavian Branch, Postboks 43, 4551 Farsund, Norway. Telefon: 97961892

I am certain they can put you in touch with somebody. Hope this helps mate.
Darren Dempsey
3   Posted 05/01/2009 at 02:29:54

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Dream week would be beat the redshite in the league last minute Pip Neville brarmer! Stevie G(gobshite) to get sent down followed by an FA Cup winning screamer scored by Gary Neville if he signs! Oh how we?d laugh. COME ON YOU MIGHTY BLUES, MAKE MY DREAMS COME TRUE!!
Matt Traynor
4   Posted 05/01/2009 at 04:13:42

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Nick,
Was at that game when Houghton scored ? in the top balcony. You?re right ? from what I recall we played well, and they nicked it. There?s a history of that down the years ? Wembley in 94, 86, "Hamilton" semi-final in 77.

Anthony, your stats do back up what you say. But I think a few of us on here want Moyes?s team to actually have a go. They?ve done it twice at Goodison in his time. Would maybe have been a different result with a different ref in THAT derby. But at Anfield he?s got to have a go.

My main concern is the collapse of our league form when we go out of all cup competitions.
Denis Richardson
5   Posted 05/01/2009 at 10:39:32

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At least there?s a little hope we?ll sneak a draw and get them back to GP ? assuming we actually have enough players to take the field.

I'm guessing Fellaini will be wrapped up sitting in the stands watching this FA cup tie. Still, it?s the cup... and until we?re out, we?re still in.
Chris Anakin
6   Posted 05/01/2009 at 11:12:13

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Even though this is one of the toughest draws we could get in the cup, I am still very confident, which is a suprise as many of the other derbies we have gone into I have expected defeat. I have a funny feeling about the FA Cup this year which I have never had before; at some point our luck against the RS should turn for the better and why can?t it begin on the 19th Jan and then again on the 24/25th Jan? EFC for the cup. COYB
Steve Edwards
7   Posted 05/01/2009 at 11:14:15

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Well look at it this way... Our away form is better than our home form... Their home form has not been anywhere near as good as their away form. I therefore think that if we have to play them we are better off doing it at Anfield and I don?t think bringing them back to Goodison will be of any benifit.

My main concern is that we always seem to have key players missing when we play them. If Fellaini gets booked against Hull, he will know miss both games against them. If he gets booked in the first game against them he will miss the next one. What odds to you think I could get on Fellaini playing in both games?.... that's what I thought.

Declan Brown
8   Posted 05/01/2009 at 12:42:30

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Nick that?s a brilliant article, the best I?ve read in a long long time. You put my exact thoughts on them and this FA Cup draw excellently into words.
Michael Kenrick
9   Posted 05/01/2009 at 14:40:05

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Steve, re Fellaini... if he miraculously avoids a booking against Hull, I believe the Big Fella would be in for both Anfield games, even if he gets booked in the league game. His two-game ban would not come into effect for a week, meaning he could play in the cup game but then would miss Arsenal & Man Utd.
Andy Crooks
10   Posted 05/01/2009 at 18:32:40

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This is not a tough draw and I am appalled at the defeatest attitude of some Evertonians. Had we had a decent summer we would be in a Champions League place. Liverpool have had an incredible amount of luck this season. They are an average side with an average coach. We will knock them out of the Cup at Anfield; of this I am very confident.
Dave Wilson
11   Posted 05/01/2009 at 19:17:50

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Thats a bit more like it, Andy lad, with you all the way!
Nick Entwistle
12   Posted 05/01/2009 at 21:44:12

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Here’s a thought, other than both, what would you take? 3 points or through to the next round?
Me? I’d take the points... I... think...
James Boden
13   Posted 05/01/2009 at 22:01:13

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Why just why does it have to be them twats? I wish we?d been knocked out now. I'd rather the humliation of a lower league side than them twats robbing us again. Fellaini is certain to miss both games I'm assured of that, as well as the fact that we only have one striker left and he?s shite anyway. Who else will get injured for us before we play them, I wonder?

We owe them big time but our, hoodoo, especially at THE GROUND OF HELL (10 years since Campbell's winner btw), will continue. Even if all appears to be going well, the gobshites will have a bullshit decision go their way, I'm assured of that. But I'm forgetting, it?s only fair cause they were unjustly done in the 1965 European Cup against Inter Milan. The reason they remember this so well is because their bad luck is so few and far between.

While we could only dream of getting the slightest bit of luck, these knobheads on the other hand have literally taken the piss out of the meaning of the word. This season alone countless sendings off, disallowed goals, dodgy penalties, deflected goals and so on. And have they even once played a team at full strength?

It?s long overdue that we win something, so the way I see it ? if it?s right that they win the league this year then how about we get the FA Cup and a couple of wins over them in return? However, here's a terrible omen:

This year marks the 20th anniversary of Hillsbrough ? do you think that fate will play its part to crown them League and European Champions? And it was also in 89 that they beat us to the cup and considering they also beat us in 86 final, the should have been year of our destiny, and robbing us in 77 semis and also 71, I think it's about bloody time that we get the victory we deserve.

Oh dear god, I'm sounding like a Red Shite now, speaking as though we have a god given right to win everything and how dare anyone else stop us. Hopefully they will have some complaining to do come the summer when they have blown the League and are sat there trophyless while we hold aloft the FA Cup. We can all dream.
COYB FTRS

Lewis Austin
14   Posted 06/01/2009 at 00:10:26

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Nick Entwistle, I'd have to take the 5th round. Just imagine six an a half thousand Evertonians going off our heads with a win against the shite. Don't get me wrong, would make it that little bit more special.

Also wiping the grin off all those cocky, arrogant red nose pricks who think they are already though would be nice!
Nick Entwistle
15   Posted 06/01/2009 at 01:22:10

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Lewis, it could make it a little more special, but then so would Liverpool losing 3 points on their way to not winning the title. We?ll just have to win both matches instead!
Simon Jones
16   Posted 06/01/2009 at 08:37:15

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I recall a few weeks ago when many of us were worrying about the home game against Man U. We rode our luck in the first half, then Pip leaves a studs tattoo on the show pony and we actually could have won the game in the end. The team looks to have a really good spirit at the moment, why can?t we get a result in every game??
Denis Richardson
17   Posted 06/01/2009 at 14:33:57

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Simon ? I hope we get the same kind of response from the lads in both games. It cannot at least be as bad a performace as the last derby.

On the subject of which game would be better to win (assuming we don't win both :-)? I would have to go for the cup. If we can knock them out (and avoid Manure and Chelski until the late rounds), I think we got a shot at Wemley.

Cannot see the rs winning the league anyway ? Manure or Chelski will overhaul them sooner or later when their luck runs out and if the carry on playing their star £20m striker.

COYB
Chris Connell
18   Posted 07/01/2009 at 02:30:05

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I?m fucking looking forward to it, we get to play them twice!!!! We?ve had a good Christmas, it's time for a bumper New Year... Possibly no Stevie G, ahhahaha!!!

You all seen the rumor about a certain Dutch Star coming to Everton... okay, there?s no way it?s true, but damn he can play football. DM should sell half the team to get him, (but not our Mikey!!!) Watch him bang one mega goal after another, and you?ll agree.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqQNkJKduM

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