EDITOR'S VIEWPOINT
Wyness Out
By Michael Kenrick : 29/07/2008 : 
Comments (176) :
This is from the Wyness Out website, which somehow escaped our notice... until now!
Comments (176) : It is the opinion of some fans that Keith Wyness has continually lied to Evertonians since he joined the club. From pawning our family silver to trying to wrench the club from it?s roots and move us to Kirkby.Several fans believe that this man must be stopped, and that he must be removed from our great football club.Personally, I have to admit that I am quite stunned he has actually gone. On the one hand he has overseen an improvement in Everton's fortunes, even if it is tempting to says all that was Moyes's handiwork. There is no way, however, that Moyes could have done it single-handed, without the active support of the corporate business structure behind the scenes at Goodison Park.
When he arrived at Everton, he stated that he wanted to increase turnover year on year. In his first year, he managed this by outsourcing many of the club?s departments which brought in significant sums of cash. Since then, every year for three years, turnover has dropped. Wyness still takes his bonus and his £400,000 salary every year.
When the ballot was announced on the prospect of moving to Kirkby, Wyness went on record stating that 25,000 fans would get a vote, and then 30,000, and then 40,000, and then 33,000, and then 35,000, all in separate interviews. The actual number of ballot papers sent out somewhere near 36,000.
Wyness stated that Tesco were to give Everton £50m towards the cost of the proposed move to Kirkby. Something denied by Tesco later that day, but re-asserted by new shareholder Robert Earl at the AGM in December 2007.
He claimed that the cost to Everton towards the stadium would be £25m. Then he claimed it was £50m. Robert Earl told shareholders at the AGM in December 2007 that it would be £100m. Hardly the ?deal of the century? proclaimed by Mr Wyness when you consider Everton feel it would cost £130m to redevelop Goodison Park.
It took Keith Wyness 3 years to buy 2 shares in the club, despite holding a place on the board of directors since his arrival.
Keith Wyness has tried to assure residents of Kirkby that Everton will be ?good neighbours? via the local media, yet he has recently told Knowsley Borough Council that he will not meet with residents of Kirkby to discuss the potential move for fear of a hostile reception. He has even refused to answer any direct correspondence in an attempt to appear more approachable.
On the other hand, many Evertonians seem to have an innate sense of right and wrong, of fair play and foul... With Wyness, his previous highly dubious history (Sydney Olympic; Aberdeen), his condescending attitude to the fans and their concerns ? there were plenty who grew to doubt his role, function and presence as Everton CEO.
No doubt they will feel fully vindicated by tionight's tumultuous news!
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The fat bastard has gone, it's official!!!
Wow he has gone!!!I It's on the offical site!!! I dance on the grave of his Everton career.
Surely we should be asking Why without assuming anything about DK... and at one of the most important points of the season if we have significant plans in place to deal with 5 -6 player negotiations... that DM mentioned he would need. Don't get me wrong it's good news... he was a stingy good for nothing who like nothing more to line ihis pockets, but what about Everton??? Surely we need to see what happens next... sometimes the grass isn't always greener.
Looks like he will be the perfect scapegoat the EGM coming up soon. especially if we have signed no-one by then.
So it is official then!
Well by that I mean he?s gone, rather than put on extra weight.
Whatever your opinion of him, you have to question his timing on this.
Well by that I mean he?s gone, rather than put on extra weight.
Whatever your opinion of him, you have to question his timing on this.
Hopefully we can now get in a decent replacement who can change our fourtunes and help the club find more revenue from alternative sources.
Also I hope this is the end of the shambles that was DK
Also I hope this is the end of the shambles that was DK
Chad maybe its not HIS timing.
He may be a scapegoat for the financial disaster that BK has wrought upon us and the EGM will expose it.
I also heard he had a major run in with Davey boy over the transfer kitty and slowness of signing anybody.
Good riddance poor timing IMO.
He may be a scapegoat for the financial disaster that BK has wrought upon us and the EGM will expose it.
I also heard he had a major run in with Davey boy over the transfer kitty and slowness of signing anybody.
Good riddance poor timing IMO.
A better question than " Why has he gone ? " would be now that he is gone...
"How soon do we a resolution to the Moyes issue ? "
I wonder if how all of these issues are related ? ( Lack of transfers , selling AJ,DK
and Moyes? situation )
"How soon do we a resolution to the Moyes issue ? "
I wonder if how all of these issues are related ? ( Lack of transfers , selling AJ,DK
and Moyes? situation )
Vincent I also hope its the end of the shambles of our commercial operations.
One down one to go - good riddance
Wyness is just a patsy.
Everton’s situation is the result of having Bill Kenwright and Jon Woods as major shareholders.
A change of CEO makes no difference, it is the men at the top who must accept responsibility for the state of the club.
They need to move on if Everton FC is to move forward.
Everton’s situation is the result of having Bill Kenwright and Jon Woods as major shareholders.
A change of CEO makes no difference, it is the men at the top who must accept responsibility for the state of the club.
They need to move on if Everton FC is to move forward.
I always suspected he’d bugger off and leave us in the brown stuff. I thought we’d be in Kirkby though, so I’m surprised by this and the timing.
Guess it proves he felt he’d been sussed and the EGM was going to expose some uncomfortable truths.
That, plus he clearly had little affection for the Club and was seemingly a mercenary taking the money where he could. I also wonder whether his health may have played a part. He’s hardly Mr Fitness and the strain may have taken its toll on him physically. A nice little earner in the sunnier climes of Mallorca would seem attractive wouldn’t it?
Oh, and maybe DK is being called in too....
Guess it proves he felt he’d been sussed and the EGM was going to expose some uncomfortable truths.
That, plus he clearly had little affection for the Club and was seemingly a mercenary taking the money where he could. I also wonder whether his health may have played a part. He’s hardly Mr Fitness and the strain may have taken its toll on him physically. A nice little earner in the sunnier climes of Mallorca would seem attractive wouldn’t it?
Oh, and maybe DK is being called in too....
I don’t think we will ever find out why he has really gone, or who is to blame for the mess that i think we are about to get into, or are already in. It couldn’t have come at a worse time, as we’re ment to be signing mouthino or the other 5. Who will sort these out as we can’t rely on bill can we now.
Can we now start a Kenwright ourt website
and a We’re not going to Kirkby website.
It seems to work
and a We’re not going to Kirkby website.
It seems to work
Does this mean we get our seats back in the Main Stand (which Wyness has been unable to fill with corporate arseholes for the past 3 years)?
Good Riddance.
Good Riddance.
Gotta admit I wouldn’t have liked to have been him at that EGM.
Who is going to take the questions and give the answers now?? I think DK is a dead duck now and that EFC is going to supernova.
Who is going to take the questions and give the answers now?? I think DK is a dead duck now and that EFC is going to supernova.
I just hope Moyes doesn’t follow him out the door as then we’ll still be in the city but would have lost our best manager since Kendall and no inward investment to pull us out of the shit marvellous!!!
Bloody Hell,
Although I have no great respect for this man for his dispersal of the majority of our assets; this is devastating news for our club. On the verge of a major development (which he fronted and I hate (Kirkby) he goes. When we are in dire need of players and he is supposed to be our major negotiator, he goes and this at the virtual start of the season!
This to me signals something major happening at our club. Whether that be good or bad, we’ll have to wait and see.
Hopefully, a takeover will be announced and Bill can get back to being a fan but I doubt it. I’ve got a horrible feeling. Hope I’m wrong!
Although I have no great respect for this man for his dispersal of the majority of our assets; this is devastating news for our club. On the verge of a major development (which he fronted and I hate (Kirkby) he goes. When we are in dire need of players and he is supposed to be our major negotiator, he goes and this at the virtual start of the season!
This to me signals something major happening at our club. Whether that be good or bad, we’ll have to wait and see.
Hopefully, a takeover will be announced and Bill can get back to being a fan but I doubt it. I’ve got a horrible feeling. Hope I’m wrong!
Thank the lord he’s gone, now we can only wonder will he be replaced by someone better or (God forbid) someone worse.
I hope we find out what happened leading up to his departure and wether it was his choice or not to resign
I hope we find out what happened leading up to his departure and wether it was his choice or not to resign
Part of me is over the moon that Wyness has finally pulled out. The other part is concerned the coming season is a right off. No new contract for moyes, selling players, no CEO, no new players, injuries and the smallest squad in the premiership. We need some quick and drastic action to pull us out of this hole.
Although the timing is not ideal the opportunity now is, surely someone with a far better grasp of reality and business acumen who would not cost the club a fortune and be blatantly in a conflict of interest running his own company promoting an ill conceived move could turn around our non footballing fortunes, renegotiate our kit sales for starters, get us a retail presence in the capital of culture surely just a short term rental in the city with an option to buy should it prove profitable, marketing and someone capable of sitting down with alternatives to Kirkby including GP redevelopment to prove once and for all if they are possible rather than the blase statements which were released with little or no quantification behind them. He isn’t the only CEO on the planet and I’m sure tat in this credit crunch world there are plenty of people who may have bought the bullet at large firms not because of their inabilities but because of the global credit crunch that could lead us and for a whole lot less than KW was taking the club for.
You all live in cloud cuckoo land, Takeovers/get Kenwright out websites, there is nobody to take over as after they’ve bought the club then they’ll have to spend 300 million on a new stadium (rebuild or move), nice one no signings and no ceo to conduct them so we can look forward to being laughed at for the next few weeks, but you keep rejoicing!!!
This can’t possibly be good news for the club. In hindsight we should have seen this coming...
A top 5 side which has to sell one of its record signings in order to fund new players, no signings until August, Moyes staying mysteriously silent on the new contract front. We are laid bare by injuries and yet we are not seeking to deepen the squad?
There has been a major issue come up in my opinion, I believe the Kirby proposal will be called in this week...
A top 5 side which has to sell one of its record signings in order to fund new players, no signings until August, Moyes staying mysteriously silent on the new contract front. We are laid bare by injuries and yet we are not seeking to deepen the squad?
There has been a major issue come up in my opinion, I believe the Kirby proposal will be called in this week...
This is all very concerning. Whatever anyone thinks of Wyness, BK, DK or whatever....We need new players and Moyes needs to sign a new deal. I fear something may be badly wrong which affects these. If we end up with no new players and Moyes leaving too then it’s almost back to square one.
Could see it coming after one of the staff told me there had been a big bust up between he and Moyes.
Probably led to a standoff where Davey told BB ’it’s him or me!’
Only ever going to be one winner there.
Probably led to a standoff where Davey told BB ’it’s him or me!’
Only ever going to be one winner there.
Our major target at the moment seems to be Joao Moutinho. Wyness has had nothing to do with his transfer, it's all been left to Pini Zahavi. So we really shoudn?t be that concerned about Wyness going ? Zahavi seems capable of doing the job far more efficiently.
This is a new dawn at Everton.
No CEO is bigger than this club, especially one who has gone out and not only split the fanbase but neglected his role of maximising Evertons profitability commercially from day one.
We went on to get into the Champions league just after Rooney left us facing a much deeper pile of shit...We will come out the other side of this far stronger and more together as supporters.
Dave I strongly disagree, cloud cuckoo land is employing a CEO on four times his predecessor’s salary who has failed over and over at this club, got kicked out of Australia for dodgy business dealings, tried the exact same "trick" of your ground is falling down and let’s move to a retail park whilst at Aberdeen and failed then came here to do the same. It may be bad timing as i said in my earlier posting but how bad is it to keep him on with his constant failings? Surely cutting your losses, shipping out and trying to get better in is exactly the same thing that DM would do if he had the money? I think if DM were to go this summer he would have gone already - the Man U job surely a prize for an aspiring manager knowing Fergie will be going sooner rather than later. The laughing stock is what the club has become business not football wise ever since he was appointed CEO with one disaster after another, fortunately DM has retained our interest with reasonable returns in the league.
Its the best thing that could have happened to us, he has little credibility left and has told a pack of lies over DK and at the same time has overseen a non exisiting marketing campaign in the city. Err Mark we have no new players in now!
Well that’s a shocker. I was convinced it was another daft rumour - wrong!
It seems he did go to Germany yesterday (unless the plausible poster on the other thread who said he checked him in was a fantasist) so all must have been OK yesterday - so why the sudden walk out?
DK being called in wouldn’t be reason enough for such a sudden & dramatic falling on the sword IMO, as that’s out of his hands & thus beyond his control.
A row with over transfer fees & him being overuled & thus undermined by BK sounds more likely?
Or how about a new job offer with a rival - aren’t the Toon in the market for a new CEO after Mort left??? Ashley is said to be an admirer of the prudent progress at EFC???
Whatever the reason & whatever your views on him are - the timing sucks - worrying times........
It seems he did go to Germany yesterday (unless the plausible poster on the other thread who said he checked him in was a fantasist) so all must have been OK yesterday - so why the sudden walk out?
DK being called in wouldn’t be reason enough for such a sudden & dramatic falling on the sword IMO, as that’s out of his hands & thus beyond his control.
A row with over transfer fees & him being overuled & thus undermined by BK sounds more likely?
Or how about a new job offer with a rival - aren’t the Toon in the market for a new CEO after Mort left??? Ashley is said to be an admirer of the prudent progress at EFC???
Whatever the reason & whatever your views on him are - the timing sucks - worrying times........
Happy but concerned; happy that the DK saga looks like it could be over but very concerned that we do not have any kind of negotiator for the desperately needed new additions that Moysey has said he NEEDS.
KENWRIGHT, GET THIS MESS SORTED.
KENWRIGHT, GET THIS MESS SORTED.
As one who has recently had a lengthy spell ?between jobs?, I wish Mr Wyness well and thank him for his efforts on the Club?s behalf even if they were not always appreciated.
I am sure that we can every confidence that our Chairman will move quickly to appoint a capable successor.
I am sure that we can every confidence that our Chairman will move quickly to appoint a capable successor.
Dave, I don?t think its cloud cuckoo land we?re living in. I really hope I?m wrong but the timing of this announcement is worrying.
I can?t say I am a supporter of Kenwright as our chairman but I accept the fact, that he is. My own view is that he will do anything to remain Chairman, even to the detriment of Everton, the club he?s supposed to love. Well, I probably do him a disservice there because he undoubtedly does love the club.
The problem that I see is that he can't let go. He couldn?t do so when we had the chance of the King?s Dock. And he couldn?t do so when Gregg was prepared to take over. Now, who knows what on earth is going on.
I really do hope that aq takeover is imminent. Not by "Good lad Evertonians" but by proper business men who can get this club off its arse and get it back where it belongs...at the bloody top. If I was allowed to dream, which I know won?t happen...but if I were, we?d stay in Liverpool and begin the fight to tell the world that we are the |First club of this city. I won?t be allowed to dream so we who support the club, yes or no voters, stay or go voters, will now have to wait and see what god awful mess we are in (hope that I?ve got this totally wrong but doesn?t anyone else feel worried?
I can?t say I am a supporter of Kenwright as our chairman but I accept the fact, that he is. My own view is that he will do anything to remain Chairman, even to the detriment of Everton, the club he?s supposed to love. Well, I probably do him a disservice there because he undoubtedly does love the club.
The problem that I see is that he can't let go. He couldn?t do so when we had the chance of the King?s Dock. And he couldn?t do so when Gregg was prepared to take over. Now, who knows what on earth is going on.
I really do hope that aq takeover is imminent. Not by "Good lad Evertonians" but by proper business men who can get this club off its arse and get it back where it belongs...at the bloody top. If I was allowed to dream, which I know won?t happen...but if I were, we?d stay in Liverpool and begin the fight to tell the world that we are the |First club of this city. I won?t be allowed to dream so we who support the club, yes or no voters, stay or go voters, will now have to wait and see what god awful mess we are in (hope that I?ve got this totally wrong but doesn?t anyone else feel worried?
I, too, saw Bully at the airport yesterday. He was carrying a small attache case and his usual smug, self-satisfied grin. Certainly didn?t look like a guy who?d just ?got the peddler!?
This was reported by thisislondon.co.uk in a report on AJ being at Dougie Freedman’s testimonial tonight:
"Meanwhile, Keith Wyness was in talks with Everton last night over his future as chief executive. He has been linked with a move to Real Mallorca, who are being taken over by Briton Paul Davidson. "
"Meanwhile, Keith Wyness was in talks with Everton last night over his future as chief executive. He has been linked with a move to Real Mallorca, who are being taken over by Briton Paul Davidson. "
Let’s hope it’s the end of DK ,too and we can rebrand Everton as ’The First Club in Liverpool’ as Jim above suggests.
It now appears that Wyness resigned by e-mail on Sunday evening ? totally out of the blue.He was engaged in frantic talks with Bill Kenwright (who wanted him to stay!) all day on Monday and cleared his desk late Tuesday.
I am very very worried about our ability now to wrap up the transfers we need. If we don’t get in the right transfers this summer we are in big trouble.
On a positive note, maybe now we will see some serious movement at the top of the club and finally move this club forward in the right direction.
On a positive note, maybe now we will see some serious movement at the top of the club and finally move this club forward in the right direction.
So, lets have a hands up vote or clapping for the first game, to see or hear just how many people wish to go to kirkby,and also hear from BK and the rest of the board, and Davey Moyes, And Mr Tesco.
Dave Smith its YOU that lives in cloud cukoo land if you think it will cost 300 million to make Goodison into one of the best stadiums in the country and you dont think getting rid of Wyness is a major opportunity for the club.
May experts in stadium design and development have come on here and said that GP can be redeveloped for a similar cost to KIrkby.
Wyness has presided over the worst losses and fall in income since the club was born at a time when the prem is awash with money so for me there’s no time like the present.
Agents can conclude any deals we have(as they would do anyway with KW just signing the contract)with EFC’s legal team crossing the I’s and dotting the T’s.
May experts in stadium design and development have come on here and said that GP can be redeveloped for a similar cost to KIrkby.
Wyness has presided over the worst losses and fall in income since the club was born at a time when the prem is awash with money so for me there’s no time like the present.
Agents can conclude any deals we have(as they would do anyway with KW just signing the contract)with EFC’s legal team crossing the I’s and dotting the T’s.
If Moyes walks then Kenwright must follow, an absolute disgrace of a Club, misinformation,mismanagement,lack of loyalty, without Moyes we would be dead in the water now, akin to Sheffield Wed and the like.
Richard Dodd
you dont have to come on here spouting the company line. You wont get sacked for not being a gentleman and expressing your real views.
99% of Evertonians thought the man was a total disaster and if you look at his history you can see it was all selfish, devious and grabbing.
I cant stand liars and he was one of the worst.
Good riddance poor timing.
you dont have to come on here spouting the company line. You wont get sacked for not being a gentleman and expressing your real views.
99% of Evertonians thought the man was a total disaster and if you look at his history you can see it was all selfish, devious and grabbing.
I cant stand liars and he was one of the worst.
Good riddance poor timing.
The sad thing for me is that none of you know what you are talking about. Wyness has greatly improved both our finances and team over the last few years by being hard nosed and stubborn, which he needed to be. He will be as hard to replace as Moyes would be. Sad day for me when you think of where we were before he arrived.
Harry,
How true your words are. I think we are at the crossroads now (apologies to Cream and to kids who’ve never heard of them!)
I really think we’re at a point in the history of our club where what we decide, if we get ba chance to decide it!, will mean our renaissance or our demise. The best opportunity that Everton Football club has left (in my humble opinion) is the Emergency General Meeting that the brave shareholders have called for.
I think its really this fundamental now. What is the future of Everton Footballo Club? There are no easy answers. However, all Evertonians, rich, Poor, season ticket hulders or not. have gort to agree a common way ahead.
Before its too late, before we just just become a no-mark team from the sticks, ca we not agree the best way ahead for our club.
I can’t help but feel that something drastic and fundamental needs to take place if our club is to survive, let alone prosper.
How true your words are. I think we are at the crossroads now (apologies to Cream and to kids who’ve never heard of them!)
I really think we’re at a point in the history of our club where what we decide, if we get ba chance to decide it!, will mean our renaissance or our demise. The best opportunity that Everton Football club has left (in my humble opinion) is the Emergency General Meeting that the brave shareholders have called for.
I think its really this fundamental now. What is the future of Everton Footballo Club? There are no easy answers. However, all Evertonians, rich, Poor, season ticket hulders or not. have gort to agree a common way ahead.
Before its too late, before we just just become a no-mark team from the sticks, ca we not agree the best way ahead for our club.
I can’t help but feel that something drastic and fundamental needs to take place if our club is to survive, let alone prosper.
Ped Pearl are you KW, a close friend or a member of his family?
Ped Pearl, you say "Sad day for me when you think of where we were before he arrived." We owned Netherton and the Megastore before he arrived. Also, we hadn’t outsourced hospitality and merchandise. We hadn’t been seduced by Tesco and Kirkby, which, if it goes ahead, will be the death knell for our club. His cock ups are too numerous to mention. Do you remember the Villareal ticket shambles when he tried to justify not giving priority to season ticket holders on the grounds of a possible terrorist attack? You really couldn’t make it up could you? Big Keith did. Expect Moyes to confirm tomorrow that he will be signing his contract.
I have no idea what is going on. As Everton fans we are all in the dark. Even the players have no idea. Normally you have some direction or some say as to what goes on. You would normally ask a player or employee as to who you think would do a good job. Everton are now stalling - It is evident on whatever they do. We are refusing to add and stalling, then becoming confused about simple signings. If Wyness has gone then it is not about the stadium but because he maybe become disillusioned as the rest of us and he cannot do his job any more. Even Moyes has not signed.
EXCELLENT! So... great, best bit of business EFC has done pre-season, I think you will all agree!!
Holy macaroni fatman, talk about a slow summer or what.
It’s like signing a new player. Wait, even better! Who’s next for the chop, the tea ladies? COYB
It’s like signing a new player. Wait, even better! Who’s next for the chop, the tea ladies? COYB
It?s all rather bizarre;
1- He has had a bust up with Moyes-most likely?
2- DK has been called in?
Either way now we have Robert Elstone (I think) to step into the breach so to get all on side I would expect him to conce things quickly.
To be honest It?s a very cosy move going to Mallorca especially as his CV has been boosted whilst at Everton.
Now perhaps people on here will start believing some rumours rather than slagging them off.
1- He has had a bust up with Moyes-most likely?
2- DK has been called in?
Either way now we have Robert Elstone (I think) to step into the breach so to get all on side I would expect him to conce things quickly.
To be honest It?s a very cosy move going to Mallorca especially as his CV has been boosted whilst at Everton.
Now perhaps people on here will start believing some rumours rather than slagging them off.
Adding to the above--It’s his mate in charge at Mallorca so that seems why he has gone.
Dein to take over???
Dein to take over???
I never quite comprehended the volume and nature of the bile directed at our not so dearly departed erstwhile CEO. Until I read Lyndon Lloyd's excellent article.
As regular readers of these pages will know, I am very much a glass half full kinda guy pertaining to all things Evertonian, but this was the first time I read an article so well constructed that it convinced me that Keith Wyness's departure is good news for the long term health of the club.
Quite what effect his sudden departure will have on present, however, is less apparent. I sincerely hope that it doesnt impact negatively on any impending transfers because it seems he was intimately involved in this regard.
Just when you thought you had seen it all from Everton... Never a dull moment being a blue.
Let Davey Moyes conduct all the transfer dealings personally this summer. Let his personality do the work on any prospective signings. We’ll get all the players he wants/can afford, and they’ll know from day one what is expected from them. Wyness..... "money for old rope!" A chancer of the highest order found out!
Just heard the news. I must say I?m delighted that this man has gone. Nothing more than instinct really, but I just found him and some of the decisions he?s made on our behalf deplorable. I like others hope this spells the end of DK. I am not as naive to believe that his successor should be a dyed-in-the-wool Blue but at least I hope he or she will be a bit more sensitive to this club?s unique history and tradition. I know there could be massive short-term ramifications as a result of his departure but I?m confident we?ll survive and prosper. both on and off the pitch in the long term. NSNO.
Just reading your above aritcle michael and the mention of his history. You mention Sydney Olympic there and was just wandering what he did there. I live in Australia and had never heard that he was part of a club here in our old NSL. Maybe you could just enlighten those that dont know of that history. In any case from what I have read on here in the past about what had done at Aberdeen and now here you have to be concerned about his personal intentions.
I heard a few weeks ago from a friend who met him at a charity cricket match that he doesn?t get on with BK and that he had his eyes on a job with the London Olympics.
I am not sure I totally agree with all the comments, it seems strange that two CE have resigned at Everton in recent years. To me Bill Kenwright is the problem , he may love Everton but he doesn?t seem to want to sell the club to anyone or find real investment. I still believe there will be some great signings this summer but deep down there are major financial problems and there has been interest from a contact of Chang but once again BK is reluctant to sell.
Put 2 and 2 together. The guy didnt have a leg to stand on faced with the charges and questioning he would have got at the EGM. And like the spineless twat he is he took the easy option when offered an escape route. What does that really say about DK. There might be no feasable options that readily present themselves financially but I for one predict that DK is now dead in the water and couldn’t be more ecstatic. Wouldn’t mind betting that Moysies delay in signing is somehow wrapped up in this. All we need now is for the habitual liar to disappear.
I know why most of you are rejoicing, especially if it means the end of DK, but does it? are we being premature, I?m worried, something stinks here.
Why would he walk out on a £400k job? or was he forced out?
I dont understand finances enough to start rejoicing or shedding tears
I worry that every fucker knew of this TWO DAYS before the club came clean
One Lady has submitted several Articles asking for transparency this summer, a "crusade" Michael calls it
I dont have her writing skills so I was more than happy to let her put the ask the questions, but I and thousands of others share her sentiments. I would like to ask - in simple terms:
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AT OUR CLUB?
Why would he walk out on a £400k job? or was he forced out?
I dont understand finances enough to start rejoicing or shedding tears
I worry that every fucker knew of this TWO DAYS before the club came clean
One Lady has submitted several Articles asking for transparency this summer, a "crusade" Michael calls it
I dont have her writing skills so I was more than happy to let her put the ask the questions, but I and thousands of others share her sentiments. I would like to ask - in simple terms:
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AT OUR CLUB?
Craig T - enjoy
www.hcourt.gov.au/media/Zhu.pdf
www.hcourt.gov.au/media/Zhu.pdf
Anyone else if they have not done any Aberdeen research - just how similar is this to his shoddy treatment of Disaster Kirkby?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20021027/ai_n12579651
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20021027/ai_n12579651
Having witnessed BK at the recent ESCLA meeting claiming to have no knowledge on a range of issues pertinent to DK I wonder who is going to answer questions at the EGM? Bearing in mind his ?Deal of the Century? quote and other misleading comments regarding DK, surely the EGM should be pushing for a re-ballot of fans on this subject as Mr Wyness comments were pure bullshit. Oh well, back to Plan B...
MY GOD
Even the OS couldn’t find a decent picture of him....
Even the OS couldn’t find a decent picture of him....
Gavin mate I thought the link was about the Kirby decision and was a nervous wreck! :-)
This was Wyeness?s only option it was his personal "Plan B" . He as CEO, Board member should have had a number of options defined for the ground move- he didnt and that is poor management.
He was also caught between the rock and the hard stone - Bill?s complete lack of financial acumen and drive to find investment and Moyes?s I want £20-30m to spend. or I go.
So Wyeness went instead and the questions will come even quicker now - Kirkby and Transfers?
Poor day for EFC , once again we become a laughing stock to the outside world, a poorly financially run club, with potentially the best manager if funded properly. As Kenyon stated only yesterday, it's about time Everton et al got their houses in order.
He was also caught between the rock and the hard stone - Bill?s complete lack of financial acumen and drive to find investment and Moyes?s I want £20-30m to spend. or I go.
So Wyeness went instead and the questions will come even quicker now - Kirkby and Transfers?
Poor day for EFC , once again we become a laughing stock to the outside world, a poorly financially run club, with potentially the best manager if funded properly. As Kenyon stated only yesterday, it's about time Everton et al got their houses in order.
If DK is called in then his position is untenable. If he?s lost out to DM in a power struggle then that is at last one decision BK has got right. I would be concerned that we?ve paid him off. Mind you, I?d shell out for his cab fare to Lime Street to make sure he was out of it.
I don’t know what to make of it all... it is very sudden. All we can hope for is a bit of transparency from the club, but that may be hoping for too much. Otherwise we honestly don’t know.
I am more concerned than anything, I felt KW had brought a much higher sense of professionalism to the club, even making tough choices, not all I agree with, but that’s his job. I get the feeling he is a corporate trying to work in a family business and the 2 sometimes never meet.
I am more concerned than anything, I felt KW had brought a much higher sense of professionalism to the club, even making tough choices, not all I agree with, but that’s his job. I get the feeling he is a corporate trying to work in a family business and the 2 sometimes never meet.
Ok first and foremost I can see why a lot of people are pleased he has gone but it's just Kenwright's little yes-man, there is still the matter of Kenwright and how does this man actually move Everton Football Club forward off the pitch whilst Moyes works with limitations on it?
Just reading the statement from Moyes regarding the sale of AJ and there are some really big words from Moyes and promises that I hope he knows and remembers what he has said. He has made it clear that we have money and also that he wont settle for average players and yet in the same sentence he makes it sound as though we are going to be buying the five or six needed to boost our squad.
I just hope these words are accurate and not more false promise from the men in charge at our club, we have had far too much bullshit in the past.
I personally don't know if Wyness is any good (although he did a good job at steadying a similarly rocky ship at Aberdeen) but I think to blame him for all our troubles was just an easy option for us. He was basically the financial mouthpiece of the sellf confessed, numerically illiterate Chairman.
The Chairman basically sacked the previous CEO because he wouldn't do what he wanted him to so Wyness obviously had to toe the line or bugger off to Real Mallorca... which he's probably just done.
I didn't agree with all the outsourcing of the clubs assets but if your Chairman is scrabbling around for cash and the club is trying to minimise its operating losses then its the only option he had. He must be glad that he doesn't have to go around to the likes of Valencia and Sporting Lisbon saying I?d like to buy your player for £12 million but we can only offer £2 million of it up front and oh there might be a delay because we have to sell one of our players to back the deal.
Wyness had an unfortunate knack of putting his foot in it when talking to the press ("The Everton Way" still makes me cringe) but he's not the reason why the club has a poor marketing image and hes not the reason why we can't afford decent players or a new home. The new CEO will be in eaxactly the same position as him and Michael Dunford and Jim Greenwood before him.
We ?just? need an owner with some cash.
The Chairman basically sacked the previous CEO because he wouldn't do what he wanted him to so Wyness obviously had to toe the line or bugger off to Real Mallorca... which he's probably just done.
I didn't agree with all the outsourcing of the clubs assets but if your Chairman is scrabbling around for cash and the club is trying to minimise its operating losses then its the only option he had. He must be glad that he doesn't have to go around to the likes of Valencia and Sporting Lisbon saying I?d like to buy your player for £12 million but we can only offer £2 million of it up front and oh there might be a delay because we have to sell one of our players to back the deal.
Wyness had an unfortunate knack of putting his foot in it when talking to the press ("The Everton Way" still makes me cringe) but he's not the reason why the club has a poor marketing image and hes not the reason why we can't afford decent players or a new home. The new CEO will be in eaxactly the same position as him and Michael Dunford and Jim Greenwood before him.
We ?just? need an owner with some cash.
Jay Harris you?re a Richard head! Why not start Jay Harris out!! KW has gone and it seems to a better job overseas. Whoever becomes the CEO doesn?t have a chance with blinkered fans around, Bully was not the best and his largest failing apart from his belly was he couldn?t keep his mouth closed. I would imagine the new CEO will be a bit more reserved and not say much and no doubt he will be vilified for that too. For EFC to get the best and be attractive we must give the new CEO time to prove himself and not riddle him/her with the crap you all seem willing to through, attacking our own institution is acceptable but it needs to be done in the correct manner. If we continue to act like we do making personal attacks at the CEO and Chairman then we won?t get the best and that means we all lose out. We must make it an attractive job regardless of his salary or even bonus payments, jealously against his earnings just prove we are small minded. If the CEO is on a large bonus and his receiving one on a regular basis then one should accept that he is reaching his targets, let?s just hope the ceiling for such returns is realistic. Like him or not this is not good timing for any supporter as the CEO brokers the transfer kitty. COYB
Danny Militwitch stated "No CEO is bigger than this club". Looking at the photo on the official website, I reckon fat Keith was only a pie or two short of disproving this.
Fantastic, fantastic news. This is a man who would have killed off our club for good. DK was just the endgame for all his outsourcing and sell-offs. As a short-term strategy it would have been ace for him and a disaster for the rest of us.
I don’t really care whether this derails immediate transfer plans (I doubt it will). The longer term future of the club is more important and that means new investment and a new approach, one that takes account of our community and heritage.
And let’s not forget there are others with questions to answer: Kenwright obviously, Woods, Kilfoyle would do for starters.
I don’t really care whether this derails immediate transfer plans (I doubt it will). The longer term future of the club is more important and that means new investment and a new approach, one that takes account of our community and heritage.
And let’s not forget there are others with questions to answer: Kenwright obviously, Woods, Kilfoyle would do for starters.
I watched this film recently and in it this red haired guy said to his boss "Either HE goes or I go!"................
Good film it was.
Good film it was.
Good riddance Bully. You were a liar plain and simple and didn?t deserve such a high profile job at our illustrious club.
Quick point on the take over rumours...if Kenwright pleaded with Wyness to stay then his departure?s probably not part of some overall plan to change the ownership of the club. More likely a decision Bully?s taken himself, which leaves Kenwright (and ultimately us) in the shit due to the timing.
Quick point on the take over rumours...if Kenwright pleaded with Wyness to stay then his departure?s probably not part of some overall plan to change the ownership of the club. More likely a decision Bully?s taken himself, which leaves Kenwright (and ultimately us) in the shit due to the timing.
A colleague of mine here in Aberdeen who is a family friend of Wyness’s said it’s been coming, he hasn’t been happy for a while and doesn’t enjoy working with Kenwright. So it may not be related to Kirby.
After Kenyon?s remarks about ?getting out house in order?, maybe the club have realised that this is the only way to do it, by letting Wyness go. It's interesting that within a few hours of the announcement, DM states that he?s just about there in signing a new contract. Either a ploy from the club to reassure fans that all is well, or that rumours of tension between him and KW were true and he was only going to sign a new contract if KW was gone.
Why is everybody concerned that we have nobody left to negotiate the transfers, this guy must be the worst CEO ever to do that. Obviously not facts but I?m guessing Moyes said his main target is Moutinho, so Wyness offers nearly half of what Sporting want, great negotiating there.
Hopefully this means the end to the Everton Way of dealing with transfers and brings in a new era where we may actually complete some!
Hopefully this means the end to the Everton Way of dealing with transfers and brings in a new era where we may actually complete some!
I’ve got nothing to say, but this is one of the longest posts on this website and I don’t want to be left off.
I never held Wyness in high regard and I’m prudently happy he left. But remarks as Dave Whitwell’s above do strike me as plain wrong.
"so wyness offers nearly half of what Sporting want, great negotiating there."
Obviously this is meant sarcastically. But I don’t see anything wrong with bidding less than the asking price, indeed that is exactly what negotiating is all about! You can slag Wyness of for a dozen of good reasons. But I guess the Moutinho transfer has nothing to do with that. First of all I like it that Everton don’t just pay the asking price but try to negotiate so we keep some millions in our pockets for other signings. And secondly, it appears that Zihavi (or what’s his name?) is doing all the work on the Moutinho transfer. Wyness was hardly involved.
"so wyness offers nearly half of what Sporting want, great negotiating there."
Obviously this is meant sarcastically. But I don’t see anything wrong with bidding less than the asking price, indeed that is exactly what negotiating is all about! You can slag Wyness of for a dozen of good reasons. But I guess the Moutinho transfer has nothing to do with that. First of all I like it that Everton don’t just pay the asking price but try to negotiate so we keep some millions in our pockets for other signings. And secondly, it appears that Zihavi (or what’s his name?) is doing all the work on the Moutinho transfer. Wyness was hardly involved.
To pick out one point from the hundred or so above...
A top 5 side which has to sell one of its record signings in order to fund new players...
How about Liverpool? Ok, they?ve signed Keane, (an excellent bit of business too IMO), but they have no money left for Barry, and their coffers were considerably swelled by CL revenue.
Don?t read too much into it. Even Man Utd will probably have to sell to buy this summer.
To pick up on another point. Let?s leave BK out of this, like him or not, he?s our leader and I don?t see any gain from him stepping down/being ousted. Let him do his job until this mythical goose with a golden egg is found.
Final point, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.... Nuff said really! COYB!
A top 5 side which has to sell one of its record signings in order to fund new players...
How about Liverpool? Ok, they?ve signed Keane, (an excellent bit of business too IMO), but they have no money left for Barry, and their coffers were considerably swelled by CL revenue.
Don?t read too much into it. Even Man Utd will probably have to sell to buy this summer.
To pick up on another point. Let?s leave BK out of this, like him or not, he?s our leader and I don?t see any gain from him stepping down/being ousted. Let him do his job until this mythical goose with a golden egg is found.
Final point, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.... Nuff said really! COYB!
I’m surprised that no one else has mentioned this, but isn’t it now time to start the Tony Marsh for CEO campaign?
After all he nows more about running a football club than the rest of us chumps.
After all he nows more about running a football club than the rest of us chumps.
I don't want to appear vindictive....nah, fuck it...good riddance, you fraud.
Long term this is great news (well if this does mean that DK will get called in).
Short term this is terrible timing. We URGENTLY need numbers (and quality of course). Not having a CEO or a manager still not signed up can?t be the best way for this to happen.
I don?t mind losing out to Barcelona for Arshavin but not to fucking Spurs!
Can everyone bring their footy boots to the Blackburn game? at the minute our subs bench is a few teenagers, a blow up doll, a mannequin from the club shop and cardboard cutout of Batman to make up the 7.
Short term this is terrible timing. We URGENTLY need numbers (and quality of course). Not having a CEO or a manager still not signed up can?t be the best way for this to happen.
I don?t mind losing out to Barcelona for Arshavin but not to fucking Spurs!
Can everyone bring their footy boots to the Blackburn game? at the minute our subs bench is a few teenagers, a blow up doll, a mannequin from the club shop and cardboard cutout of Batman to make up the 7.
I agree about the man's integrity and am delighted he has left although am concerned this signals troubles ahead BUT lets face facts Kenwright is as much to blame for everything and I hope there is as big an outcry to remove Billy Bullshit from Everton.
No more "Oh he's one of us though" crap , the man is incompetent and broke and dissapears when the shit hits the fan only to reappear to spout some shit when it's peaches and cream.
He has ruled over so many fuck-ups I can't believe he isn't being treated like Peter Johnson.
No more "Oh he's one of us though" crap , the man is incompetent and broke and dissapears when the shit hits the fan only to reappear to spout some shit when it's peaches and cream.
He has ruled over so many fuck-ups I can't believe he isn't being treated like Peter Johnson.
On holiday in Mallorca, I awake to this news. Oh Joy!
Comments that Wyness is Kenwright´s ´Little Boy´ are plain wrong. The CEO is THE man at the sharp end in terms of running the club and brokering deals etc - surely borne out by Kenwright´s "Í´m only the Chairman" remarks recently. Remember - this is the man that has stripped the club of all its assets and overseen the failure of the club to secure any notable level of investment
I do however fear that his exit is possibly only the tip of a very large iceberg - one that will hopefully not affect the club adversely, though from a personal view point, I believe seeing such a stranger to the truth and one with so many dubious conflicts of interests leave the club can only be in the long term interests of us all.
Adios and good riddance, Keith.
Comments that Wyness is Kenwright´s ´Little Boy´ are plain wrong. The CEO is THE man at the sharp end in terms of running the club and brokering deals etc - surely borne out by Kenwright´s "Í´m only the Chairman" remarks recently. Remember - this is the man that has stripped the club of all its assets and overseen the failure of the club to secure any notable level of investment
I do however fear that his exit is possibly only the tip of a very large iceberg - one that will hopefully not affect the club adversely, though from a personal view point, I believe seeing such a stranger to the truth and one with so many dubious conflicts of interests leave the club can only be in the long term interests of us all.
Adios and good riddance, Keith.
Great news but this is only a start. It is time for even our most trusting/thickest supporters to accept that Wyness was only doing the job that Kenwright wanted him to do. This repulsive man, whose CV is full of failure and lies, should never have been allowed to set foot over the front door.
I guarantee that Kenwright is already working on his ?I never wanted to go to Kirkby? speech. The time for Kenwright to go is long overdue too.
I guarantee that Kenwright is already working on his ?I never wanted to go to Kirkby? speech. The time for Kenwright to go is long overdue too.
This does bother me quite a bit.
Why have they not stated the reason for resigning?
Why would a guy on £400k per year just walk out of a job?
Could this be that he was a scapegoat for BK and it had been getting to much??
And surely this could or can put a big dent in possible signings! as i am lead to beleive he was incharge of all of that.
HAS THE SHIT FINALLY HIT THE FAN & THE FANS
Why have they not stated the reason for resigning?
Why would a guy on £400k per year just walk out of a job?
Could this be that he was a scapegoat for BK and it had been getting to much??
And surely this could or can put a big dent in possible signings! as i am lead to beleive he was incharge of all of that.
HAS THE SHIT FINALLY HIT THE FAN & THE FANS
I reckon BK should get himself on Dragons Den and ask them for some money and help, they’d have the know-how to sort the club out!
All I know about Wyness is that he is a LIAR. He wasn't about to start telling the truth and wherever he ends up he will say what he thinks people want to hear in the short term. Hopefully this is the first step along the LONG road to bringing some respect and success back to Goodison.
Whatever the reaons behind him going it is BRILLIANT news for the club. I just hope that it does signify the end of DK and then I can start getting some sleep again. We survived Peter Johnson and we will survive Wyness and Kenwright. COYB!
A journalist friend of mine who has some good sources inside Goodison tells me that Bully?s departure had little to do with DK and everything to do with transfer funding.
Apparently, BK gave Moysey a solemn promise of £30M for transfer funding and demanded that Wyness ?find it from anywhere.? This proved impossible as the club have exhausted their lines of credit and Kenwright has lost one or two ?soft guarantors?. All the clubs Bully has been negotiating with have demanded big sums up front and he felt he was between a rock and a hard place.
We may rejoice at his passing but not for the right reason. Deep shit, I think!
This morning SkySportsNews are quoting an Everton spokesman (Ian Ross?) as saying his decision is nothing to do with DK. Big Keith?s wage (and size) are irrelevant and nothing out of the ordinary in this day and age but if he has anything to do with Moyes?s recent melancholy disposition (check out EvertonTV interviews), I'm not surprised at his resignation.
Alan Water?s explanation sounds the most feasible we have had. It would also explain 1.Why we had to sell AJ; 2.Why the delay in making a single signing; and 3.Why Davey is dithering over signing his contract.
But if it is true, WTF is the money to come from?
I’m delighted that Wyness has gone but on the other hand you’ve got to wonder what will happen at Everton next? Has Wyness jumped before he is officially labled at the DK scapegoat or has the "pressure" of being loathed by a growing proportion of the club’s support got to him?
I hope we get a replacement fast. Although he had his faults, its clear that we need someone in that position to manage the club financially. BK can?t do it and Mr Earle hasn?t the inclination or time. We need someone to come in and engineer a buy out. Let's hope we get that fast!
This can only be seen as bad news under the circumstances - love him or loathe him (mostly loathe of course), the club really doesn't need our high profile staff resigning at this stage. What the hell is going on at Everton if the chief exec is ?doing one? with only weeks to ge before the new season, not a single signing has been made and the team is ona tour of the US??
I?m astonished that this has happened now; things like this only happen where there is serious unrest at board level, and with that now clearly being the case, where does that leave a) David Moyes contract b) any potential signings, and c) those holding the purse strings (if there are any)...
I?m lost for words.
I?m astonished that this has happened now; things like this only happen where there is serious unrest at board level, and with that now clearly being the case, where does that leave a) David Moyes contract b) any potential signings, and c) those holding the purse strings (if there are any)...
I?m lost for words.
You are right, James, it is a sad morning for Everton. But if an earlier post is to be believed and Chairman Bill has promised Davey a £30M transfer pot, then I?m sure he will find it from somewhere ? he always does! That?s what being a good Chairman is all about.
Why do Everton always keep us in the dark? We pay good money to watch our club and when we are worried they should tell us what is going on to clear it up! I just hope we?re not in big financial trouble if the new stadium doesn?t go ahead. It?s not looking good at the moment, we?ve signed no-one and had to sell our second best striker leaving us with one senior striker in the squad and we?ve got a big hole in our midfield and the season starts 2 weeks on Saturday!
I can’t help thinking this is seriousy bad news for the club. I think we sometimes get caught up in the "he gives himself a £400,000 salary" thing - yes, it’s a lot of money, but that’s just a fraction of what other people who run huge organisations earn.
He did a number of very important things for our club - and some particularly bad things - and I can’t see how this will help our transfer hopes. We look like a club in turmoil - who will want to join us now?
He did a number of very important things for our club - and some particularly bad things - and I can’t see how this will help our transfer hopes. We look like a club in turmoil - who will want to join us now?
Richard and similar ? Don?t start a Stalinesque rewrite of history ? the man has done a Don Revie, the only good deed since he?s been here. He has done as much for Everton Football Club as Glen Keeley and Slaven Bilic
Great news that the bent lying bastard has gone. Now its time for Bill to take off his amazing technicolour dream coat and get up to this part of the world and get the true feeling of the fans instead of the propaganda that the press give out.
I agree with Alex May. The main loser in all of this is Kenwright. Not only has he little business acumen (despite being a successful theatre impresario, all the financial stuff seems to be done elsewhere), but more importantly KW was his lightning conductor. Most of the bile on this site and elsewhere of Kirkby was directed not at Kenwright but at Wyness; all the ills of the club (merchandising, ticketing fiascos, lack of transfer funds you name it etc) could be conveniently placed at his door. Now BK has no such cover. I ask one question: if Bully was indeed the driving force behind Kirkby, does that mean that now we can quietly drop DK as a plan? Here’s hoping but somehow I doubt it.
Wyness has gone, I for one am not sorry.
He’s got his money out of Everton, he’s probably got his backhander from Tesco.
And when Kirkby Stadium gets built he’ll probably still end up with some more cash.
Milked us for as much as he could get and then he got found out and now he’s done a runner.
Waste of space.
He’s got his money out of Everton, he’s probably got his backhander from Tesco.
And when Kirkby Stadium gets built he’ll probably still end up with some more cash.
Milked us for as much as he could get and then he got found out and now he’s done a runner.
Waste of space.
James Marshall wrote "This can only be seen as bad news under the circumstances - love him or loathe him (mostly loathe of course), the club really doesnt need our high profile staff resigning at this stage".
I think that most people will see that as someone jumping ship before they are exposed for their failures than a successful, competant person leaving because of the club being so bad. Wyness can try to spin all he likes but he will not be missed.
I think that most people will see that as someone jumping ship before they are exposed for their failures than a successful, competant person leaving because of the club being so bad. Wyness can try to spin all he likes but he will not be missed.
Conjecture - all of it.
Let us wait and see:
1. The outcome of DK
2. Whether Moyes signs his contract or walks.
3. Whether he gets his wish for 5 to 6 additional players and how much is spent on them (ie - what standard our new players are)
Until we know any of these things, this is all hot air.
Let us wait and see:
1. The outcome of DK
2. Whether Moyes signs his contract or walks.
3. Whether he gets his wish for 5 to 6 additional players and how much is spent on them (ie - what standard our new players are)
Until we know any of these things, this is all hot air.
Richard - what I mean is that whether or not he’s done a good job, him leaving at this stage is bad for the club in so many ways. I agree with you he’s made mistakes and has made many people dislike him, but internal turmoil is never a good thing, especially now at a time when we need to be making signings and steadying the ship.
I don’t like the guy, nor do I want him at the club particularly, but at the same time, him resigning merely shows Everton to be a club in turmoil - not exactly attractive to new players of investors.
I don’t like the guy, nor do I want him at the club particularly, but at the same time, him resigning merely shows Everton to be a club in turmoil - not exactly attractive to new players of investors.
My son works at Liverpool Airport and KW has been seen en route to Palma on several occasions - this has been bumbling for a while behind the scenes. I hope it is not a sign of a bigger issue at EFC that we are unaware of - to date. I think DM’s comments on transfers are revealing.
FUCKING SHAMBOLIC !!!
Looks like its all down to ? Don?t ask me whats going on, I?m only a fan ? Bill to sort things out now then. Better get him booked on a leadership skills course asap as he looks pretty clueless to me.
Can?t wait to hear from the ?Calm down, everything will be alright, EFC have got a cunning plan behind the scenes, you just wait & see' brigade on this site now!
Looks like its all down to ? Don?t ask me whats going on, I?m only a fan ? Bill to sort things out now then. Better get him booked on a leadership skills course asap as he looks pretty clueless to me.
Can?t wait to hear from the ?Calm down, everything will be alright, EFC have got a cunning plan behind the scenes, you just wait & see' brigade on this site now!
Anthony Millington - please let?s not go down the road of no new stadium equals big financial trouble. Let?s cut that line right out, now, before it starts getting bandied around as an excuse and muddying the already very murky waters.
Either at this point we have got money for new signings or we haven?t. We are in big financial trouble already or we are not. Don?t inextricably link new stadium plans with an inactive summer period and a deadline 4 weeks away.
Lads as much as I’m delighted about this, DO NOT BE FOOLED. This has come about through circumstances, by which I mean DK maybe getting called in (I dont know), the EGM being called and this apparent bust up with Moyesey NOW, on top of all this he has been offered a job as the CEO of another club ran by a close business aquaintance (Real Mallorca).
I still think we’re missing the point, does this mean there is a job going? How do we apply? ha ha
I still think we’re missing the point, does this mean there is a job going? How do we apply? ha ha
After this debacle of Bully Beef you could look no further than ex player ex manager JOE ROYLE as his replacement. I have just read his book & if there is anyone who can work miricles with the lack of money its this EFC Legend. He is the right age, a true Evertonian, & his experiences at Oldham & City of getting rid of deadwood within an organisation is top class. I dio not think he would undermine DM only assist to help & understand EFC current problems!
Wyness is a wily traveller! I can confirm that although he was booked on EZY 7223 to Berlin, leaving at 11:45 ? he also had a ticket and actually travelled to Madrid on EZY 7101 an hour later. Both were ONE-WAY tickets and cost him 30 quid apiece!
It?s rumoured that Moysey paid for his ticket to JL!
It?s rumoured that Moysey paid for his ticket to JL!
The Echo says it will be ok... so what's the panic ...???
Mark Joseph - Yes but if he did & his kit contracts were anything to go by : there would be a delay in delivering the figurines & I’m guessing you could scour every JJB
nationwide and not find one.
nationwide and not find one.
The greedy fat twat has been offered more money at Mallorca hasn't he, that?s why he?s jumped ship!! Anyway who gives a shit, the Moyesiah is on the verge of signing his new deal and he says the delay is due to him persueing transfer targets and that he?s made signing new players his first priority and he?ll sign his contract within the next fortnight!!!!!
DONT KILL BILL
He is as honest as the day is long, a true blue that got taken for a ride by the Fat Controler, and a few more that saw a chance to make money. The big thing is, do we want to be taken over by the likes of the Yanks over the park? They are in the mire more than us, just higher stakes, they're selling to buy, but lost £150 million from there great man Parry, and there club is in a bigger mess than us.
He is as honest as the day is long, a true blue that got taken for a ride by the Fat Controler, and a few more that saw a chance to make money. The big thing is, do we want to be taken over by the likes of the Yanks over the park? They are in the mire more than us, just higher stakes, they're selling to buy, but lost £150 million from there great man Parry, and there club is in a bigger mess than us.
Hey Harry, with a post like that, I reckon you are after my job - Defender of the Faith!
I think, in our hearts, we all know that Blue Bill will see us through this temporary problem.
I think, in our hearts, we all know that Blue Bill will see us through this temporary problem.
Yesterday Richard Dodd wrote about Wyness
"No doubt more scurrilous rumours. Everton can ill afford to lose such a vital executive at this time.
A good man viilified in these columns, I?m sorry to say!"
Oh dear, Doddy - the scurrilous rumours came true. Must have been a nightmare for you and to happen to such a good man as Wyness - well what is the world coming to? Kids today have no respect for their elders and us older fans are being ungrateful for the sacrifices that Wyness made for the cause and we are jealous of his success :0)
"No doubt more scurrilous rumours. Everton can ill afford to lose such a vital executive at this time.
A good man viilified in these columns, I?m sorry to say!"
Oh dear, Doddy - the scurrilous rumours came true. Must have been a nightmare for you and to happen to such a good man as Wyness - well what is the world coming to? Kids today have no respect for their elders and us older fans are being ungrateful for the sacrifices that Wyness made for the cause and we are jealous of his success :0)
Have just heard that BK ?is incandescent with rage? over Bully walking out and is threatening to sue him for ?non-performance of contract?. This story has way to run!
Good RIddance to the lying twat, I say.
Interestingly the fascist propaganda merchants at the club have now put up a statement claiming that ?his departure has nothing to do with Kirkby? - ooooh 17 thumbs up from some dickheads. Well funny how we can't add a ?tumbs up? to the story saying fatrolls has fucked off isnt it? my guess is it would be in the thousands
Also - I know its a(nother) small point but why do they hide the story beneath the podcast with Tim Cahill and stuff, when all of that was on the site yesterday morning? WE ARE NOT FUCKING STUPID - GIVE US THE TRUTH, ROSS!!
Anyway let's hope a better CEO comes in and gets rid of Ross and brings in someone who is HONEST!
Interestingly the fascist propaganda merchants at the club have now put up a statement claiming that ?his departure has nothing to do with Kirkby? - ooooh 17 thumbs up from some dickheads. Well funny how we can't add a ?tumbs up? to the story saying fatrolls has fucked off isnt it? my guess is it would be in the thousands
Also - I know its a(nother) small point but why do they hide the story beneath the podcast with Tim Cahill and stuff, when all of that was on the site yesterday morning? WE ARE NOT FUCKING STUPID - GIVE US THE TRUTH, ROSS!!
Anyway let's hope a better CEO comes in and gets rid of Ross and brings in someone who is HONEST!
Richard Dodd
You are an embarrassment to Evertonia, a bigger windbag than Wyness
Just lock your keyboard and stop proving what a numpty you are - a worse Yes man than Phil (Right Boss!) Neal
You are an embarrassment to Evertonia, a bigger windbag than Wyness
Just lock your keyboard and stop proving what a numpty you are - a worse Yes man than Phil (Right Boss!) Neal
Read about the rumours last night, I'm very relieved it is true. Good riddance !!!
This man is a very well paid COMPLETE and UTTER FAILURE. I dread to hear about the mess he has left behind him. I'm praying that this means Kirkby is now a dead project for EFC.
God help his next victim!
This man is a very well paid COMPLETE and UTTER FAILURE. I dread to hear about the mess he has left behind him. I'm praying that this means Kirkby is now a dead project for EFC.
God help his next victim!
I have to smile at all these comments that Bill Kenwright is financially naive/incompetent. Anyone who has dealt with him in show business will confirm that he’s a wily negotiator and drives a hard bargain.
I can’t believe he’s anyone’s soft touch in Everton affairs!
I can’t believe he’s anyone’s soft touch in Everton affairs!
KY should have taken the other Billy liar with him and I dont mean Blue Bill.
Ross puts out more shit than a load of pigs in a pen. He should be given the boot and we can start with a completely new and fresh set of liars and cheats. In Blue Bill we trust?
Ross puts out more shit than a load of pigs in a pen. He should be given the boot and we can start with a completely new and fresh set of liars and cheats. In Blue Bill we trust?
I personally think hes gone to Spain for more money... and his bullshit about Kirkby has been found out, he was dreading the EGM I bet.
Whilst we have always been stringent in the transfer market I and every blue know this particular transfer window has given me a nervous disposition!!! I personally think he was holding the purse strings too tight for the Kirkby move and Moyes was getting increasingly pissed off at not being able to compete in the transfer market!
I have very faith in Kenwright, he may not have the £s that other investors have but that man is blue through & through and has done all he can for the club. There is a time coming when he needs to go but right now he needs to sort this mess out, and get Moutinho and anyone else Moyes needs.
Whilst we have always been stringent in the transfer market I and every blue know this particular transfer window has given me a nervous disposition!!! I personally think he was holding the purse strings too tight for the Kirkby move and Moyes was getting increasingly pissed off at not being able to compete in the transfer market!
I have very faith in Kenwright, he may not have the £s that other investors have but that man is blue through & through and has done all he can for the club. There is a time coming when he needs to go but right now he needs to sort this mess out, and get Moutinho and anyone else Moyes needs.
We are at the cusp of something big on that Goodison Park pitch, something Wyness probably lost all concept of with the Kirkby move. Let's re-focus on the team, get the players in and keep the challenge up, Tottenham and Pompey will be snapping at us this season and look at their investment!!
Come on, EFC ? get us where we need to be!
The rat's gone on to his next scam and left Mr "Don't ask me, I'm only a fan" Kenwright deep in the shit; we dont have a pot to piss in and are mortgaged up to the hilt with our only assets being the constantly dwindling playing staff. There is now nobody at the club with the experience to conduct any imminent transfers and DM must be totally fed up.
The silence from the club is deafening and extremely worrying, what a fucking shambles... I am seriously concerned for the future of our club. Wether you are pro- or anti-DK is now irrelevant ? we must unite on masse and demand answers before EFC becomes a thing of the past.
Kenwright, stop hiding and face and accept your responsibilities. Your scapegoat has flown to foreign shores. Let's hear you side of this debacle.
On the Everton website, the Wyness statement had registered 28 thumbs up icons within 20 minutes, the ability to give it a thumbs up then evaporated hmm. I know this to be true because I added one!
I am sure Man U would love Moyes as their No 2 I am equally as sure he will NOW sign a contract for us. If Kenwright had any/still has any sense he should start listening to Moyes now that fat twat has gone. Moyes coined the term "The People's Club", it's about time the club listened to the people and the person within the club who has a better handle on that than anyone else ie. Moyes!
The club leadership and management need to redeem themselves and handle PR with a bit more transparency, honesty and respect for its core business partners... us!!!
I am sure Man U would love Moyes as their No 2 I am equally as sure he will NOW sign a contract for us. If Kenwright had any/still has any sense he should start listening to Moyes now that fat twat has gone. Moyes coined the term "The People's Club", it's about time the club listened to the people and the person within the club who has a better handle on that than anyone else ie. Moyes!
The club leadership and management need to redeem themselves and handle PR with a bit more transparency, honesty and respect for its core business partners... us!!!
I find it pretty interesting that we get Moyes explaining the AJ situation and his contract a few hours after Wyness resigns. I'm starting to think he may have been the reason we never know what's going on. Here's to all those signings DM promises.
I wonder if there is any chance of the Andy Johnson deal collapsing now that Wyness has left!!
On another note did anyone else notice AJ signing autographs yesterday with his left hand? Could this be why he hasn?t been able to hit a cow's arse with a banjo this season!!
On another note did anyone else notice AJ signing autographs yesterday with his left hand? Could this be why he hasn?t been able to hit a cow's arse with a banjo this season!!
Despite what you think of Keith Wyness and to be honest its no point slagging him off now, he has gone and as Everton you have to look forward not back.
My point, there will be many speculating as to the reason why, I will name a few.
1, He has the offer of another job and he is pissed off with all the grief so why not take up a new role in a sunny climate with a friend as a boss ? good luck to him.
2, He has been pushed from the board and to save face he has been given the opportunity to resign ? normal practice.
3, He is aware fully of the club's finances and the impending DK decision and has decided he does not want to face up to it and the backlash ? fair enough; we all screw up it could be classed as doing the honourable thing.
4. (seperate point) a new CEO won't really make any difference as nothing changes at Everton if the owners stay the same. The CEO can only act with what he has to play with financially and authoritavily.
5, Key point, new investor ready to come on board, has insisted he would want his own man in place to take up the role before any new money ? highly likely and understandable.
6, New owners completely with same intention.
All in all we have now to move on and support what ever happens and support whoever comes in to replace him.
One problem if Kirkby gets the nod then the new CEO won't have to take the flak for the decision as it was a done deal before he came, unless he has some bottle and contacts to find a new partner quickly for another location.
I suppose its watch this space but don't hold your breath on a major change unless points 5 and 6 are likely to happen.
I am not a betting man however I would think these two points may be closer to the mark than any of the others and also tie in to the signing of Moyes contract.
My point, there will be many speculating as to the reason why, I will name a few.
1, He has the offer of another job and he is pissed off with all the grief so why not take up a new role in a sunny climate with a friend as a boss ? good luck to him.
2, He has been pushed from the board and to save face he has been given the opportunity to resign ? normal practice.
3, He is aware fully of the club's finances and the impending DK decision and has decided he does not want to face up to it and the backlash ? fair enough; we all screw up it could be classed as doing the honourable thing.
4. (seperate point) a new CEO won't really make any difference as nothing changes at Everton if the owners stay the same. The CEO can only act with what he has to play with financially and authoritavily.
5, Key point, new investor ready to come on board, has insisted he would want his own man in place to take up the role before any new money ? highly likely and understandable.
6, New owners completely with same intention.
All in all we have now to move on and support what ever happens and support whoever comes in to replace him.
One problem if Kirkby gets the nod then the new CEO won't have to take the flak for the decision as it was a done deal before he came, unless he has some bottle and contacts to find a new partner quickly for another location.
I suppose its watch this space but don't hold your breath on a major change unless points 5 and 6 are likely to happen.
I am not a betting man however I would think these two points may be closer to the mark than any of the others and also tie in to the signing of Moyes contract.
Farewell Wyness and your Kirkby hair brain scheme, you certainly won’t be missed at Goodison. Maybe we can get back to all being together as Blues, all Wyness did was divide us with the Kirkby move. Maybe now we can actually buy some players, we need them quickly if we want to be challenging for the Top 4 spot.
It will be interesting to hear AJ’s views as he has always said that he doesn’t want to leave Everton or was he forced out?
It will be interesting to hear AJ’s views as he has always said that he doesn’t want to leave Everton or was he forced out?
The message coming from the Club is that this changes nothing. Apparently, according to nutty prof Tom Cannon on Radio Merseyside, KW was the public face of the Kirkby project but all the time Kenwright was the driving force behind it. A shame, then, that Kenwright wasn’t able to answers questions at the ESCLA Meeting, eh?
If KW will not be missed, and was only a peripheral player, why was he being paid such a huge salary?
Dominic King in the Everton PR rag states that KW ’leaves behind a club on a sound financial footing’ - the spin machine is going into overtime. After yesterday telling fans that KW was still CEO, ROss has a lot of work to do today. One thing, though - dont belive a word they say - they couldn’t lie straight in bed.
I hope all of the Kirkby apologists are taking a long hard look at this, and wondering how, if it is all so good, the CEO who has been the driving force behind it isn’t staying to see it through.
People have been saying on here and other forums that one day, KW would carry the can. Just wait for the Kenwright statement that he wanted to stay at Goodison all along.
Good riddance to the fat lying bastard.
If KW will not be missed, and was only a peripheral player, why was he being paid such a huge salary?
Dominic King in the Everton PR rag states that KW ’leaves behind a club on a sound financial footing’ - the spin machine is going into overtime. After yesterday telling fans that KW was still CEO, ROss has a lot of work to do today. One thing, though - dont belive a word they say - they couldn’t lie straight in bed.
I hope all of the Kirkby apologists are taking a long hard look at this, and wondering how, if it is all so good, the CEO who has been the driving force behind it isn’t staying to see it through.
People have been saying on here and other forums that one day, KW would carry the can. Just wait for the Kenwright statement that he wanted to stay at Goodison all along.
Good riddance to the fat lying bastard.
Paul Niklas,
You say: ’All in all we have now to move on and support what ever happens and support whoever comes in to replace him’
I will never support the move to Kirkby, regardless of who the CEO is.
A bad move is a bad move, whoever presents it.
You say: ’All in all we have now to move on and support what ever happens and support whoever comes in to replace him’
I will never support the move to Kirkby, regardless of who the CEO is.
A bad move is a bad move, whoever presents it.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the Wyness departure,can I beg the Editor to give us a break and remove all the Fatman close-ups from the home page pdq? They are so disgusting to look at and his smarmy features will stick in my mind without need for THREE from every angle.
This ain?t a porn site!!!!
This ain?t a porn site!!!!
David, you picked out the bit you could have an argument with, however I did not say suppport the move to Kirkby, I said we have to support the club and whoever is in charge of it.
I am against Kirkby also, if it gets called in then good news but that wont stop me supporting my club and those that have the honour to control it.
A new CEO will either have the mandate to get on with Kirkby or find another solution ,based on current investors want. He will do what he is told simple as that.
New CEO with new investor with mandate to make decisions based on new investment, different story, either way he should get yours and my support.
I am against Kirkby also, if it gets called in then good news but that wont stop me supporting my club and those that have the honour to control it.
A new CEO will either have the mandate to get on with Kirkby or find another solution ,based on current investors want. He will do what he is told simple as that.
New CEO with new investor with mandate to make decisions based on new investment, different story, either way he should get yours and my support.
Richard Dodd, you said "I am sure Bill will come up with the money as good chairman always do!"
Yes PJ and Risdale always came up with the money too, it?s just one day you have to pay that money back and that fool you love is running out of assets to borrow us more money, as we dont own any assets now, plus we are mortgaged up to our eyes.
it?s going to be interesting to see who this liar hides behind now, we want answers not pathetic ones like "dont ask me I am only the chairman!" The club is in a state, we had people on here last night indirectly preaching that Ian Ross told them Wyness is still our CEO and an hour later it comes out on the OS that he had left, something we all new for half a day... Fucking shambles.
But whatever kit, sponsors, ground moves, ticketing, merchandising, loans, fanbase split, sparse squad, season tickets down ? you name it, we have it all wrong in abundance and you claim he has left us in good nick!
Personally, I like Bill. I can see people’s points, but now he really is at last chance saloon. He can blame KW’s resignation on certain things, and I dare say that we will not see that many new squad members, but he does have to appease DM in order to get that contract signed. He’s going to have a tough time bullshitting his way out of it as DM is holding the aces at the moment. If DM doesn’t signs and goes, then it most definately is game over for Bill.
Is he the good guy or the bad guy in all this? For those of who remember it, it all seems a bit Dungeons & Dragons the cartoon-esque.
Is he the good guy or the bad guy in all this? For those of who remember it, it all seems a bit Dungeons & Dragons the cartoon-esque.
Made Fatboy has gone !!!
Now its over to King Bill and co to go with him, Fans have just about had enough of this board year on year out.
A fresh start with REAL investment..
I would like to add that Ian Ross should be next out, for the way he conducts himself with Evertonians, he was also involved with Wyness and fully behind Destination Kirkby.
Bye Bye Toss!!!
Now its over to King Bill and co to go with him, Fans have just about had enough of this board year on year out.
A fresh start with REAL investment..
I would like to add that Ian Ross should be next out, for the way he conducts himself with Evertonians, he was also involved with Wyness and fully behind Destination Kirkby.
Bye Bye Toss!!!
I hear it is rumoured that Robert Elstone, Wyness assistant may be following him out of the door.
This prompts 2 schools of thought:
Has something untoward been discovered in the finances?
or
Is Bully and his sidekick being made scapegoats for the inadequacies of the chairman?
I did hear from a contact on Monday that KW and DM had nearly come to blows over the amount Bully wanted to put forward for transfers and BK had to get involved but I can't imagine this was enough for somebody in that position to go.
KW"s pal at Real Mallorca has apparently denied he has been offered anything there but nothing new in that scenario.
This prompts 2 schools of thought:
Has something untoward been discovered in the finances?
or
Is Bully and his sidekick being made scapegoats for the inadequacies of the chairman?
I did hear from a contact on Monday that KW and DM had nearly come to blows over the amount Bully wanted to put forward for transfers and BK had to get involved but I can't imagine this was enough for somebody in that position to go.
KW"s pal at Real Mallorca has apparently denied he has been offered anything there but nothing new in that scenario.
Jay Harris - I’ve heard the same regarding Robert Elstone; that he is going or gone!
A domino effect??
If this rumour is true, I can’t wait for Tom Cannon the mad professor pleading to anyone that will listen that Elstone’s departure will not have any effect on David Moyes, the transfer budget, the day-to-day commercial running of the club or Destination Kirkby....................Spin, spin, spin and more spin.
A domino effect??
If this rumour is true, I can’t wait for Tom Cannon the mad professor pleading to anyone that will listen that Elstone’s departure will not have any effect on David Moyes, the transfer budget, the day-to-day commercial running of the club or Destination Kirkby....................Spin, spin, spin and more spin.
I cannot believe some of these posts. Bully going doesnt change the Kirkby plans one iota. Losing your CEO mysteriously on the eve of a new season can only be bad news and is the latest evidence if any were needed of the real problems at the club. The club is on the brink here. Clearly they will lose the manager soon. Moyes will not stick around if we cannot progress beyond 5th. I look at the stats. Under Kenwright and Bully and Moyes we have performed easily the best of all the clubs outside of the Sky 4. I know people will say about Kirkby and being mortgaged up to the hilt but these are problems that bedevil all modern football teams. Move or stay. Invest or fall behind.
We have done remarkably well to get away from the chaos of the Walker/Johnson/Smith regimes and Bully and BlueBill should not be held to account for the dreadful failure of the Carter regime to allow our rivals to exclude us from a place at the top table of football. I cannot believe so many take so much pleasure from the seemingly endless chaos at our club off the field. Thank God for the football and the emergence of a whole new wave of promising youngsters to keep my mind off the depressing events in the non existent Everton boardroom and constant carping of the Keep Everton in Walton (awful place, crap parking, dreadful ground) crowd.
Kevin Gillen - it must be a real chore for you to go to such a "dreadful ground" in an "awful place". Since we have always played there, if it was such a bad experience how did you even end up supporting Everton?
Kevin... "awful place"! I am sure the people of Walton love that shout and would reply about what Kirkby may be, crap parking! At least it has parking, mate. Kirkby won't and it is as good as any away ground I have visited for parking and far better than these pre-fab places in shopping retail parks and finally dreadful ground.
Yes we ALL know we need better facilities and this can be done, but I can never say those words about such a shrine that is our home and soul. You have your poxy souless flat pack with sod all to make it feel like Everton and if you don't get your little wish no matter what the likes of you say, we won't die, we have been around far too long and mark my words a plan B will appear within weeks ? most probably redevelopment in grubby old Walton.
I don’t see Man Utd coming in for Moyes, given the recent court action involving him and Rooney. But, BK needs to get DM signed up asap.
Let me just say one thing,: Mr Davidson (his friend) is well known to the City and the financial regulators
I need say no more but... well suited.
I need say no more but... well suited.
Personally I think the timing on this couldn?t be better. The worst outcome would have seen KW drag us Kirkby and then waltz off into the sunset, set for life, leaving us in a souless out of town shopping mall wondering "How the hell did this happen?". At least this way we?ve seen his true colours - and they?re not blue are they? - and he?s given us a second chance to get the clubs future right. It?s the sort of leadership we can do without. And by the way - £400k p.a. plus bonuses?!?! Where do I send my CV?
Paul Niklas - disagree with your earlier Point 4 the CEO is responsible for the day to day running of the club under supervision of the board to authorise your choices, marketing, kit sales the bread and butter stuff you would naturally expect someone of the calibre to demand a £400k a year job plus bonuses be capable of. A new CEO with a CV that is checked this time could easily remedy the awful revenue streams with simple changes.
Kevin Gillen unless you know something we don’t then I’ve not heard a 2.5 mile parking exclusion zone in Walton, alienating disabled supporters or not enough public transport to fill and empty the ground or being forced to add an hour and a half to my match day experience getting to and from the match or stadium I’ve been going to for decades.
Kevin Gillen unless you know something we don’t then I’ve not heard a 2.5 mile parking exclusion zone in Walton, alienating disabled supporters or not enough public transport to fill and empty the ground or being forced to add an hour and a half to my match day experience getting to and from the match or stadium I’ve been going to for decades.
I would like to ask Tony Finn - are you really happy about the state of Goodison Park? I remember watching England V Northern Ireland in the 70?s there and feeling really positive about having one of the best grounds in the country. It has not moved on at all as a ground since then and it?s wrong of you to question my loyalty as an Evertonian simply because I?m sick of restricted views, awful facilities and quite frankly the worst sporting experience outside of Grimsby Town I have ever encountered.
Everyone was wise after the event of Hillsborough stating how could we possibly preside over such antiquated facilities for a major sporting event? Goodison Park is an accident waiting to happen and the communications to and from it are inadequate for a modern stadium. My point is this how can we take so much pleasure from the news of a departing CEO on the eve of a new season? It?s absurd. To me, you consult, make a decision and commit to it if you want success. I am no lover of DK but if it did hold out the possibility of increased success and revenue for the club then I would support it. I support Everton FC not Goodison Park or Walton FC.
Also I would say to you Paul that Goodison has long since lost the status of shrine. It is a millstone in its current configuration. I stand by my point about Walton, I don?t denigrate the people, they are the salt of the earth, but outside of a difficult journey to Goodison Park what other attractions does it have?
Kevin I am a bit of a fed up blue at the moment for numerous reasons, but you know what I am starting to get excited for the first game against Blackburn, Like thousands of others I get this feeling every pre-season and when I walk up them steps in the Park End, see the turf and smell the hotdogs, the hairs will stand up on my neck mate like it’s my first game again, it’s a shrine to me and many more like me and always will be and if a poxy cheap flatpack appeals to you more, a place that will never get the aura of a stadium where Dean and Catterick died, where Balls family shed tears of love infront of 40,000 then you certainly are a very different blue to thousands who share my similar feelings.
There have been some great posts in recent months connected to the ground move by a Christine Foster, now if you all would of done what she asked and checked out this useless fat twat KW then this wouldnt be as big of a surprise as it has been. Its exactly what he done to Aberdeen?? He was, is & always will be a useless bluff merchant who only gets employed because the person over him is even dafter than he is???
Kevin
you obviously have a totally different experience than me and some other fans.
I have been attending GP sine 1958 and as a kid have been penned in with 65000 plus crowds that you couldnt move in.I’ve also queud outside GP all night for a cup ticket.
Now its much more civilised I park my car in Walton Lane, walk 5 minutes to the Park end and enjoy a view and facilities that are as good as anywhere except maybe Old Trafford and "The Emirates"(one of the few grounds I havent been to yet.
I have also played at Preston,QPR,Tranmere,Wrexham and Luton and I can tell you that GP is STILL one the top grounds in the country despite the lack of investment.
Can you name more than a handful of league grounds that hold so many supporters and are of a superior standard?
you obviously have a totally different experience than me and some other fans.
I have been attending GP sine 1958 and as a kid have been penned in with 65000 plus crowds that you couldnt move in.I’ve also queud outside GP all night for a cup ticket.
Now its much more civilised I park my car in Walton Lane, walk 5 minutes to the Park end and enjoy a view and facilities that are as good as anywhere except maybe Old Trafford and "The Emirates"(one of the few grounds I havent been to yet.
I have also played at Preston,QPR,Tranmere,Wrexham and Luton and I can tell you that GP is STILL one the top grounds in the country despite the lack of investment.
Can you name more than a handful of league grounds that hold so many supporters and are of a superior standard?
Kevin out of interest and not getting specific with an address but where do you travel from to make Goodison Park such a difficult journey?
Kevin,
What ’facilities’ do you want.
You go to the match, watch it, go home. That’s what I have been doing for over 40 years. It’s perfectly fit for purpose.
If anyone is bothered about restricted views, there are season tickets on general sale right now with no obstructions.
If the communications to and from it are totally inadequate for a modern stadium, what do you make of the transport plan for Kirkby? I have no trouble getting to or from Goodison - does anyone?
Finally, what is the accident waiting to happen? Just give me a possible scenario.
What ’facilities’ do you want.
You go to the match, watch it, go home. That’s what I have been doing for over 40 years. It’s perfectly fit for purpose.
If anyone is bothered about restricted views, there are season tickets on general sale right now with no obstructions.
If the communications to and from it are totally inadequate for a modern stadium, what do you make of the transport plan for Kirkby? I have no trouble getting to or from Goodison - does anyone?
Finally, what is the accident waiting to happen? Just give me a possible scenario.
And as for your accident waiting to happen, there is an article on this site from someone who contacted the health and safety offices and spent a rather long phone call with a gentleman who laughed at the suggestion that Goodison wont pass safety measures in times to come,
It’s scaremongering you believe and it came from a man who resigned his post by email, a compulsive arrogant liar .Also the evidence has been put on this site enough times to show you how the ground can be gradually developed and if the shite can park 70,000 in the area we can park 35,000 -50,000 we have been doing it long enough.
It’s scaremongering you believe and it came from a man who resigned his post by email, a compulsive arrogant liar .Also the evidence has been put on this site enough times to show you how the ground can be gradually developed and if the shite can park 70,000 in the area we can park 35,000 -50,000 we have been doing it long enough.
Well said Paul and Gavin.
People who swallow all this Bullshit about GP falling down or being closed down deserve all the flak they get.
Kirkby just fails on so many points I dont know how people dont get it.
People who swallow all this Bullshit about GP falling down or being closed down deserve all the flak they get.
Kirkby just fails on so many points I dont know how people dont get it.
Kevin
Some tips
Go before you leave home (or enter the ground) Surely you can hold your water for 2 hours?
Eat something before you go in
Take a drink in with you
What else do need (apart from a hard-hat, ToeTectors and accident insurance?)
Oh, and also...
Wrap up warm on cold days
If you can get to Lime St, share a cab with other Blues or turn right and walk
Some tips
Go before you leave home (or enter the ground) Surely you can hold your water for 2 hours?
Eat something before you go in
Take a drink in with you
What else do need (apart from a hard-hat, ToeTectors and accident insurance?)
Oh, and also...
Wrap up warm on cold days
If you can get to Lime St, share a cab with other Blues or turn right and walk
1 gone...2 to go.....Kenright & Woods next.....
Fatty,s only had the Pies & Petty Cash...2 Million Squid....Disgrace.....It,s not over yet Lads..!.
Lets ALL hope it,s not too late to save the Club we all Love and bring the Supporters back together.
New Goodison park...Plan A,B,C,D, & EFC..!!
COYB:::::
Fatty,s only had the Pies & Petty Cash...2 Million Squid....Disgrace.....It,s not over yet Lads..!.
Lets ALL hope it,s not too late to save the Club we all Love and bring the Supporters back together.
New Goodison park...Plan A,B,C,D, & EFC..!!
COYB:::::
Now Wyness has gone the real battle for the future of EFC begins. Agent Kenwright knows if he loses the battle for DK, he will lose the club. We the fans, know if we are forced out of our city to the town of Kirkby, the club will face a dark and uncertain era. If we stand united and rally to the cause, then EFC can move forward to a bright and prosperous future in the city of Liverpool.
If Everton last for a thousand years, future generarions of Evertonians can say "This was our fineset hour"!
If Everton last for a thousand years, future generarions of Evertonians can say "This was our fineset hour"!
It is believed Wyness actually tendered his resignation by email after discussions with board members at the weekend, and that he will seek to negotiate a pay-off.
The above is from bbc website
What fucking Pay off????????????
The above is from bbc website
What fucking Pay off????????????
Doesn’t ANYONE find it strange that Wyness "resigns" and within hours DM confirms he WILL sign a new contract very soon??????
By the way did I mention about the film I saw where the red haired guy says to his boss "Either he goes or I go"?
Maybe I did...................
By the way did I mention about the film I saw where the red haired guy says to his boss "Either he goes or I go"?
Maybe I did...................
I believe Wyness resigned because a decision has already been made to shelve DK.
The timing of this decision has everything to do with DK. Frankly, he has made a mess of it, the affect it was having on the transfer budget, and the EGM was the final straw for BK and Woods. The whole project has turned into a fiasco and become untenable.
I was a pro-Kirkby Evertonian up until this morning. I do not now trust the project due to the fact that the project manager has just resigned.
Now, where does the lack of transfers and Moyes’s contract tie in with all this?
Firstly, the transfer budget has everything to to with DK. Everton needed to keep funds back because of the DK cost spiralling on a daily basis. Moyes has probably told BK if no funds are made available then I will see out the rest of my contract, then I’m gone.
Then comes the EGM. BK decided DK is dead. Wyness resigns. BK tells Moyes he has his transfer budget. Moyes then tells the world I will be signing my contract in two weeks once I’ve got the players in that I need.
So that’s how I see it. It’s the simplest explanation, and the simplest explanations are usually right.
So DK is dead in my opinion! Phew, don’t you just love being an Evertonian......
The timing of this decision has everything to do with DK. Frankly, he has made a mess of it, the affect it was having on the transfer budget, and the EGM was the final straw for BK and Woods. The whole project has turned into a fiasco and become untenable.
I was a pro-Kirkby Evertonian up until this morning. I do not now trust the project due to the fact that the project manager has just resigned.
Now, where does the lack of transfers and Moyes’s contract tie in with all this?
Firstly, the transfer budget has everything to to with DK. Everton needed to keep funds back because of the DK cost spiralling on a daily basis. Moyes has probably told BK if no funds are made available then I will see out the rest of my contract, then I’m gone.
Then comes the EGM. BK decided DK is dead. Wyness resigns. BK tells Moyes he has his transfer budget. Moyes then tells the world I will be signing my contract in two weeks once I’ve got the players in that I need.
So that’s how I see it. It’s the simplest explanation, and the simplest explanations are usually right.
So DK is dead in my opinion! Phew, don’t you just love being an Evertonian......
SHOCK-HORROR -
It’s Sir Phillip Green who’s pulling the strings.
Who’d have thunk it?
Here’s another very badly kept secret - Robert Earl/Leigh is not a named director of Everton FC..................
Looks like Big Keith might well have a case for a pay off. Will Sir Phillip be paying for that as well?
It’s Sir Phillip Green who’s pulling the strings.
Who’d have thunk it?
Here’s another very badly kept secret - Robert Earl/Leigh is not a named director of Everton FC..................
Looks like Big Keith might well have a case for a pay off. Will Sir Phillip be paying for that as well?
James Connoly, " you were a pro DK until this morning" your entitled to your views but you smack of the type of person that only gets something when it hits you in the face.
I 100% believe in the democratic process however your one of the few I would probably not allow to vote either way.
Which is probably 50% of the people who voted yes in the first place.
Where have you been????
I 100% believe in the democratic process however your one of the few I would probably not allow to vote either way.
Which is probably 50% of the people who voted yes in the first place.
Where have you been????
I’m sorry guys I remain unconvinced by your arguments. Certainly I enjoy going to watch Everton at Goodison Park and remain nostalgic for standing only terraces, the boys pen, a futile punt on the Golden goal etc. I’m also nostalgic for other aspects of my youth like beer at 25p a pint and less aggressive teenage females. Please don’t dress up the current Goodison experience as progress! I am a loyal Evertonian and am natural comrades to all fellow Blues but we need to live in the present not the past or remain committed to a maximum 5th place for the rest of our days. I suppose really I am one of the few who are satisfied with 5th with the current state of pro football, I don’t want to be run by Gillett & Hicks, The Glazers or robber barons from the failed Soviet state. Billy Bullshit as you call him is a small price to pay than having a dodgy Russian oligarch or war criminal running the club on the backs of money stolen from some poor third world state. I will remain an Everton fan wherever we play, my love for my club is not conditional on it being run out of Walton.
If lying arse was in the position of the Glazers he would of bit the hand off Real Madrids bid for Ronaldo and took the payment on the drip for years, not stood his ground and showed the football world that his club comes first , the man is a clown, take a good read of his Q&A the other week again, clueless and there are many foreign investors I would have instead of this fraud, too many people have been taken in by his "I am one of you" shite, too many people look across the park and think foreign investors are all clueless well I am sorry they are wrong.
Kevin I respect your opinion. I, however, will find it more difficult to think of it as the same Everton I know now if it plays in Kirkby.
Everton and Goodison Park are synonymous with one another, and I really feel if it moves to Kirkby it will be more just Everton in name only, than the Everton we love. Maybe not totally as a lot of the fan base will still be there. But the majority of players aren't Evertonians, the manager isn't (wasnt? maybe now he is) and future ones wont be. It is likely future chairmen and board members wont be (and havent been). The only constants (in the past 100years ish) have been the fans and Goodison Park. For me if we move, especially to somewhere out the city (only technically or not), we will lose a MASSIVE part of the way we feel about our club.
That is just my opinion.
Everton and Goodison Park are synonymous with one another, and I really feel if it moves to Kirkby it will be more just Everton in name only, than the Everton we love. Maybe not totally as a lot of the fan base will still be there. But the majority of players aren't Evertonians, the manager isn't (wasnt? maybe now he is) and future ones wont be. It is likely future chairmen and board members wont be (and havent been). The only constants (in the past 100years ish) have been the fans and Goodison Park. For me if we move, especially to somewhere out the city (only technically or not), we will lose a MASSIVE part of the way we feel about our club.
That is just my opinion.
Fair play to you Tony. I like you just want to see our club progress.
My best guess is that Bully fell on his own sword. Only time will tell, and I suppose the EGM will bring out a few answers.
I just wish EFC did not treat it?s extremely loyal fan base as though we don?t exist.
I just wish EFC did not treat it?s extremely loyal fan base as though we don?t exist.
Erm okay, I was checking the site (AGAIN) for confirmation AJ was leaving, which is bad enough, and then I find this out.
Okay I really wanna stick the boot in Wyness but I'm not because while he was there we did okay, let's give him credit!!! I know we all hate the idea of Kirkby, maybe he was centre of this and now he's moved on maybe he knows it ain't going to work out. MAybe there?s no investors, theres so much grey and lack of leadership.
Okay I really wanna stick the boot in Wyness but I'm not because while he was there we did okay, let's give him credit!!! I know we all hate the idea of Kirkby, maybe he was centre of this and now he's moved on maybe he knows it ain't going to work out. MAybe there?s no investors, theres so much grey and lack of leadership.
As a club we and a team we don?t seem united anymore, fans, the club has been strong because we were together. We need to ignite the passion again. I will admit I have fears are for the season to come, but that's because my levels of expectation have increased. Dave, Bill its your fault: I imagine Everton to break into the top four. Now deliver!
So far we sold, AJ leaving is tragic, and even the Rumour Mill page has no news!!! Everton I back you all the way regardless because you have proved and brought success and a smile on my face time and time again; please give me some good news to believe for the season coming.
I loved the chubby big man. He had Everton tattooed on his heart and he sweated blue perspiration. He will be sorely missed, not just from my wank-bank, but by everyone at the club.
Love you Keith, Good luck babes.
Love you Keith, Good luck babes.
No other clubs seem to have trouble attracting investors, only the fourth most succesful club in the land. We?re dying of lack of funds in a sumptous banquet of riches. This is the easiest time in history to attract investment to a football club and for ANYONE to say that we can?t for any reason is blatantly untrue. The jokers ruining our club have a lot to answer for. Almost makes you yearn for the Peter Johnson days...
The shadow of Philip Green hangs over EFC. Thus Wyness had 2 masters, an immposible situation under which to operate. Like him or loathe him it is no way to operate a business. Was Wyness the mouthpiece or and Bill Kenwright the puppet? My thoughts only but clarity is needed before Moyes takes off. It’s all a bit sad really and if not so serious would make a cracking sitcom. Finish in the top 5 and it will be all forgotten
Brilliant news. Absolutely made up he has left. Hopefully this is also the end for DK and we can finally forget this and start moving forward off the pitch.
Its a scam lads, smoke and mirrors, hes a patsy..
What an excuse BK has now for signing no new players..
’dont blame me the CEO did a runner and we didn’t have enough time to sort the transfers out’
What an excuse BK has now for signing no new players..
’dont blame me the CEO did a runner and we didn’t have enough time to sort the transfers out’
Just recieved this email from a mate of mine who is a regular in the Winslow and used to mind cars when he was younger -
- Wyness never resigned. Bill got a phone call late last week from an agent who said what the #### is going on at everton, ive got Wyness ringing me asking about players but not for everton but for Majorca. Bill didnt know what he was on about but hit the roof and called Wyness were the truth came out, seems he was doing it from his everton office too, Bill told him to clear his desk and #### off. So Bill being Bill didnt want the shit to hit the fan with the fans already mad about the move plus no signings ect, so he told people that Wyness resigned. But his big mistake was telling Earl who was putting the money up for moutino that Wyness had resigned to take another job. Now over the weekend Earl has since found out from his own sources the truth, he went mad about Bill lying to him and withdrew the Moutino money.
Moyes is obviously upset about whats been going on and has told people that he’s near the end and is thinking of walking. he’s also been told that the Johnson move looks like it could collapse because of a knee injury. if the deal doesn’t go through all we have to spend now that Earl has withdraw funds is £7 million. Moyes will give it until the end of august to see what happens but if things stay as they are right now then he’s gone. The players were told by moyes today at meeting whats going on, they are not happy about going into the season with just kids as back up.
- Wyness never resigned. Bill got a phone call late last week from an agent who said what the #### is going on at everton, ive got Wyness ringing me asking about players but not for everton but for Majorca. Bill didnt know what he was on about but hit the roof and called Wyness were the truth came out, seems he was doing it from his everton office too, Bill told him to clear his desk and #### off. So Bill being Bill didnt want the shit to hit the fan with the fans already mad about the move plus no signings ect, so he told people that Wyness resigned. But his big mistake was telling Earl who was putting the money up for moutino that Wyness had resigned to take another job. Now over the weekend Earl has since found out from his own sources the truth, he went mad about Bill lying to him and withdrew the Moutino money.
Moyes is obviously upset about whats been going on and has told people that he’s near the end and is thinking of walking. he’s also been told that the Johnson move looks like it could collapse because of a knee injury. if the deal doesn’t go through all we have to spend now that Earl has withdraw funds is £7 million. Moyes will give it until the end of august to see what happens but if things stay as they are right now then he’s gone. The players were told by moyes today at meeting whats going on, they are not happy about going into the season with just kids as back up.
I once complained to the twat about service I was given when trying to spend a £1000 on season tickets. He forwarded my mail to coprporate and said ’ Heres another one for you to sweet talk’
Good riddance to the useless idiot
Good riddance to the useless idiot
Forgive my naivety but could someone explain something to me? It?s 65 hours now since the official statement of Wyness?s resignation - a one liner that took the club a couple of days to put together it seems. Why haven?t we been told the facts? Because they could be viewed as slanderous? Because in the event of an inpending court case they would harm the clubs positon? Because they?re of a personal nature? Or because the club think it?s none of our business?
Answers on a postcard to....
Answers on a postcard to....
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He?s resigned... Its official