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The Line-Up v Brum
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Birmingham: Hart, Carr, Johnson, Dann, Ridgewell, Gardner, Ferguson, Bowyer, Fahey, Jerome, Benitez.
Subs: Taylor, Larsson, Phillips, McFadden, Michel, Queudrue, Tainio.
Everton: Howard, Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Anichebe, Heitinga, Arteta, Pienaar, Cahill, Yakubu.
Subs: Nash, Hibbert, Yobo, Bilyaletdinov, Donovan, Gosling, Rodwell.
Referee: Lee Probert (Wiltshire)
Gerry Quinn, Posted 13/03/2010 at 14:40:50
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Little concerned about Anichebe instead of Donovan. Still benefit of the doubt!!
Brum have 2 good centre halves - I wonder if Vic and Yak are the distraction for Tim to strut his stuff?
Obviously Vic must be showing it in training, but a right mid he ain’t, I thought he did ok against a piss poor Hull side, and when Donovan came on he tore them to pieces down the right
Would like to have seen Rodwell and Donovan been given a go with Cahill and Anichebe on the bench
Here’s hoping that Donovan can do the biz again today after the big boys have softened them up. Heitinga and Bowyer - can’t wait to see who is the hardest....
Watching live on FSC here - only one problem is that one of the commentators keeps calling us Ever-TING!
Links please?
Heitinga v Bowyer, no contest - the boy is class!
I still laugh out loud when i think £24 million for Lescott and £5 mill for Jonny!!
I still laugh out loud when i think £24 million for Lescott and £5 mill for Jonny!!
excellent Veetle link
http://www.veetle.com/frameworked/index.php/channel/view#4b94ae926a425
COYB
http://www.veetle.com/frameworked/index.php/channel/view#4b94ae926a425
COYB
Anichebe for Donovan? Hmm Moysey...not sure about that one. Prove me wrong Victor....COYB!
Let’s hope the Brummies continue their home scoring record of less than a goal a game - I pray that we can get an early blow or two in
Good point from Gerry re Anichebe selection - there must be a good reason he isn’t starting with Donovan.
Also thought Billy might’ve got a start with Cahill on the bench - I always worry about a player starting a game fresh out of the treatment room....
We need a good game from Jonny today - they’ve been strong at home this season but we could take this today I think.
Also thought Billy might’ve got a start with Cahill on the bench - I always worry about a player starting a game fresh out of the treatment room....
We need a good game from Jonny today - they’ve been strong at home this season but we could take this today I think.
Any links fella’s that are not veetle??? Iraq goals is usually the choice but playing up
Cool, efficient performance today, lads...looking for a 2-0 win.
links anybody please?
Veetle not good for me at the momment. Any others
http://www.iraqgoals.net/6841-birmingham-city-vs-everton-fc-.html
Ok at mo
Ok at mo
Plenty here, dont know how good. Already getting pissed off with Trevor Francis
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=67104&part=sports
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=67104&part=sports
Well, he was a Brummie before becoming the million pound man
Gave it a whirl but no success :(
And The Latch, of course
Me too Andrew. What a boring bastard he is. Glad its just gone off.
Surprised Pienaar can walk at the end of the week he gets fouled so much
You’re not missing a lot so far apart from Bowyer being a knob (not really big news that).
Jags sporting a dodgy ’stache...
Shitty game so far, both teams not started yet, Pienaar looks up for it.
Pienaar a cracking shot...Hart a world class save...could have had Hart for 750k? Sigh...
Hart again, fine save off a Cahill close range header
Beautiful shot by Pienaar, fantastic save. shit
We are the most fouled team in the premiership -407 fouls against already this season!
Wow, Vic....goal of the season? 1-0
Anichebe..... Yesssssssssssss
Holy shit BIG VICCCC
Er that could be why Anichebe’s playing then...!
1-0 what a goal by big Vic!!!
Must be showing it in training...a howitzer blast from Big Vic
Get in Victor! What did I say? Prove me wrong lad! 1:0!
great goal nice passing build up
Faddy warming up on the sideline
The YAK!!!!!!! 2-0
great Goal -- still shit
Feed the Yak..... Get in....
bloody hell!!!!
YAKUBUUUUU
Feed the Yak!! I’d have fancied that one on my plate to be fair...
Get in !!!! THe Yak is back....
Great play by Pienaar again
Great play by Pienaar again
I still aint gotta link! im missin all the action!
Had 50 quid on pienaar 1st and missed his effort . ahh
Had 50 quid on pienaar 1st and missed his effort . ahh
Feed the Yak! 2:0!
Yes, served up on a silver platter from a Peanuts cross
for links type fsi in your search thingy and look for live feeds when you get to the fsi page then take your pick
£50 on first goal. Fuckin hell, you must be flush.
Has anyone got the number for sopcast. No joy with any of the links.
thanks guys
thanks guys
Just laughing at Gerry Quinns first post of the day. Fuck 2-1....
Oh ffs...2-1. Sloppy
Finally yellow for that Bowyer neanderthal
Perfect feed here gents:
http://www.veetle.com/frameworked/index.php/channel/view#4b94ae926a425
You’ll need to install Veetle to run it but its only a tiny little bit of software and the feed is spot on, with English comms.
Enjoy!
http://www.veetle.com/frameworked/index.php/channel/view#4b94ae926a425
You’ll need to install Veetle to run it but its only a tiny little bit of software and the feed is spot on, with English comms.
Enjoy!
Neville must be a Kajagoogoo fan judging by his hair
taking advantage of a free bet :).
Thanks james!
Thanks james!
Heitinga v Bowyer would be tasty
Bloody hell, Jags essentially off the line...Howard froze there
Too close that one..COME ON
Spell of Birmingham pressure
Cracking defending from Jags
Weve gone from pretty good to shite in 10 minutes, come on Black n pinks
To be fair, Brum have really stepped it up since they pulled one back - as is often the way.
Anichebe injured, turned his right ankle.
Anichebe injured, turned his right ankle.
Big Vic just turned his ankle, 6 months out?
Brummie pressing hard... not good
Donovan time? If Vic gets injured it’s really hard luck for him as he just came back.
Never want that for any of the players no matter who
Donovan time? If Vic gets injured it’s really hard luck for him as he just came back.
Never want that for any of the players no matter who
We are creaking right now
We’ve just temporarily lost it in midfield
Francis is ffing blind...clearly offside? WTF
That "nancy" Trevor Francis is really getting up my nose - just be totally biased willya! Get Snods on there to match them up
Hart again....
Thank God for half time is all I can say.
Go Yak.........Infostrada Sports tell us that Yakubu Aiyegbeni’s goal for Everton was his 75th in the Premier League making him the top scoring African player in the competition. He has one more goal than Chelsea and Ivory Coast striker - and freshly crowned African Footballer of the Year - Didier Drogba.
Good first half to be fair- was expecting a bore fest. bit worried about the way Brum came back into things towards the end of the half. Trevor Francis- wtf!
Hart should be the England goalie...James? I mean, my god, man.
Tim Cahill is not doing much today... he is having an off season. Rodwell should have started and brought Cahill on later.
Then again I think Moyes knows better than me!
Then again I think Moyes knows better than me!
Started a bit slow then really got on top. Scored 2 good goals but gave a poor one away. 3 things iv really noticed, 1st even though he scored, my bird would of scored it, the yak has done nothing. He’s not holding the ball up and keeps giving it a
away. 2nd cahills not been in the match. 3rd when Neville gets the ball it’s either a aimless hoof or were in a good position and the prick passes it back to the centre halfs. I sometimes wonder if moyes watches the same game as me? Certain players are un touchable?
away. 2nd cahills not been in the match. 3rd when Neville gets the ball it’s either a aimless hoof or were in a good position and the prick passes it back to the centre halfs. I sometimes wonder if moyes watches the same game as me? Certain players are un touchable?
A great opening 25 minutes or so, but then Brum certainly came back at us. Vics goal was a fucking peach, good on him for a clever turn and unstoppable drive.
A good match to watch, but Brum were too much in the game for my liking towards the end of the first half. We need to get Arteta on the ball more. We started playing the ball around a bit too much, and it ended up with our full backs who ended up playing long to clear. Heitinga needs to make himself a bit more available for the players at the back. Its almost as if the ball is played back, all the players move forward for the long ball. We should cut this out, and show more availability for the defence.
Its hard to call the second half, but I think Donovan will be on as Vic looked to have taken an ankle knock. A pity, as he was giving Ridgewell hell on the right. Arteta is still sensational in that position, he seems to have lost nothing, which is a credit to those who kept him in shape during his time out. I’d like to see us go for it, but I suspect Moyes will ask for a more cautious approach, as Brum look decent going forward.
A good match to watch, but Brum were too much in the game for my liking towards the end of the first half. We need to get Arteta on the ball more. We started playing the ball around a bit too much, and it ended up with our full backs who ended up playing long to clear. Heitinga needs to make himself a bit more available for the players at the back. Its almost as if the ball is played back, all the players move forward for the long ball. We should cut this out, and show more availability for the defence.
Its hard to call the second half, but I think Donovan will be on as Vic looked to have taken an ankle knock. A pity, as he was giving Ridgewell hell on the right. Arteta is still sensational in that position, he seems to have lost nothing, which is a credit to those who kept him in shape during his time out. I’d like to see us go for it, but I suspect Moyes will ask for a more cautious approach, as Brum look decent going forward.
Any decent links, veetle is just playing up non stop for me...
Couple of changes maybe early 2nd half . Vic looks as though he’s struggling with his ankle - on comes Donovan , and I think Jack for Tim later on as Timmy tires
Interesting poser for Moyes now. Does he do what he’s always done in the past and send them out to hang on to the lead, or does he begin to trust the attacking skills of the players out there and really go for it? History tells me what I think he’ll do...but I’m hoping I’ll be proved wrong.
Warren Barton summed up our performance as Route One to avoid the Brum midfield?????????????
I am so mugged by that comment - up to their goal we had 76% possession - WTF?
I am so mugged by that comment - up to their goal we had 76% possession - WTF?
The Brummies have the look of us about 4-5 years ago...a School of Moyes emerging?
Geordie twat!
http://www.p2p4u.net/watch/13728/1/watch-birmingham-city--vs--everton-fc.html
Working perfect .
Working perfect .
Stewart have you noticed Veetleis perfect when the game aint on ?
Warren barton isn’t a Geordie.
But he is a twat.
But he is a twat.
If we try to hold this, we will lose, we should be out to batter these now.
Half-time score is a decent enough reflection for me - both teams opened pretty quiet, then we got out of neutral and suddenly looked rather impressive.
Credit to Brum where it’s due - we’d have all been proud of that comeback if the tables were turned.
That said - why on earth we didn’t get right back into ’em when they scored? Its sound logic when you go 1-0 down and IMO its sound logic when you deplete an early 2 goal lead.
So, either that was not the consensus on the field or, worst case - it was the message from the bench to drop deep.
Overall though - very happy so far. business as usual for Jags, Vik showing promise in advanced positions but worrying when deeper in the field.
Criticism goes to Neville (off the pace and should’ve picked the team up after the brum goal), and surprisingly - Heitinga, a couple of times in that half he looked like he’d been on the razzle last night!
Landon, Billy and Rodwell could all undo this lot - and for gods sake give Seamus a run out - reckon he could be a...
Credit to Brum where it’s due - we’d have all been proud of that comeback if the tables were turned.
That said - why on earth we didn’t get right back into ’em when they scored? Its sound logic when you go 1-0 down and IMO its sound logic when you deplete an early 2 goal lead.
So, either that was not the consensus on the field or, worst case - it was the message from the bench to drop deep.
Overall though - very happy so far. business as usual for Jags, Vik showing promise in advanced positions but worrying when deeper in the field.
Criticism goes to Neville (off the pace and should’ve picked the team up after the brum goal), and surprisingly - Heitinga, a couple of times in that half he looked like he’d been on the razzle last night!
Landon, Billy and Rodwell could all undo this lot - and for gods sake give Seamus a run out - reckon he could be a...
Ummm....penalty surely/? That was goalbound
He speaks like a Geordie twat, James - way aye ya F....er
Clear penalty. What a surprise that Francis didn’t agree
Again handball in the box. Come Probert you...probert
Heitinga - that dive over the boards was class - if that had been Twattenberg he’d have booked him!
And number 2! Unbelievable
All my links are playing up..
good link Gareth at the risk of speaking too soon
Did I read that stat right? 10 shots 10 on target?
Great...great...2-2
Bollocks
FUCK!
Hi fellas! Oh what’s that? Just my mate Tim Howard letting in his second shitty goal of the afternoon. When will we get rid of this stuttering twat?
Francis is lapping it up the daft twat
arghh
arghh
Howard playing like an unattended Subbuteo goalie
We are sitting far too deep inviting them on to us.
Probert has some serious cash on the Brummies for this one...
Never a dull moment. 2 up to 2 each Deflated.
I’m glad to see Brum doing well because obviously with their rough house long ball tactics they represent the future. It’s not as if their team is full of over rated jack the lad bad attitude type players who couldn’t hack it at big clubs or anything and there’s no likelihood of them doing a Portsmouth as they have such a huge fanbase which will mean they don’t spend beyond their means.
Poor from distin
There is also some seriously fucked up officiating going on here today. Is that Lee Probert in the "middle" or fucking CLATTENBERG for crying out loud?
Rodders and donovan please
Only just finished work and just got in for Brum’s 2nd
We dont look too good
How have we played??
We dont look too good
How have we played??
Weve now gone from pretty good, to shite to fucking awful, lets do something Moyes
Can’t blame Veetle for the fact a bunch of pub footballers are being allowed all the time and space in the world to make this unwatchable
Cahill and Arteta are being totally over-run in midfield. Its as simple as that - too much space and not enough tackling.
Typical, typical Everton. Could have scripted this game tbh.
Hart and Probert the difference thus far
Shambles, utter shambles
Rodwell for Cahill, Donovon for Vic, Simples.
Birmingham have really fucked us this season.
Will not being funny mate, but every week you always blame the ref!
this is the moment where Moyes has to make a change before they get their 3rd
Come on, davey, ring the changes
How many times are they going to handball it?!?!
Moyes needs to het a fuckin grip or we will lose this game. Cahill off Donavan on and throw Vic up front with fat boy and have a go. Ps can someone just shot Neville and put me out off my misery
anyone tell me what the rules say about blocking an early-taken free kick? Was the foul/YC because yakubu deliberately blocked the free kick?
Cheers chaps... and lets have a bloody substitution. Those responsible for the mindset of our 11 right now are not doing their jobs very well today - I always thought neville a decent captain but this is not good enough (wrt to our ’will to win’ - not really the play)
Cheers chaps... and lets have a bloody substitution. Those responsible for the mindset of our 11 right now are not doing their jobs very well today - I always thought neville a decent captain but this is not good enough (wrt to our ’will to win’ - not really the play)
Looked like the chest that one
Donovan is coming on at last... hopefully for Vic?
So he’s on for Yak
Great first half hour- we seem to have gone to pieces since their first goal. At last the sub- Yak has done nothing apart from the goal, would also get Cahill off quicksharp
I know Heitinga has been playing well recently, but isnt he meant to be shielding the defenders? I havent seen him there to be honest.
Bowyer bundles Pienaar to the ground on a yellow.......thought not Probert
Weathered the storm? lets make these free kicks count. shut the fuck up trevor
Arteta not even trying to beat the first man on that freekick
Yeah but with the Yak on a yellow sensible.
Come on Everton...3 points, come on
my veetle is so freeky bad, any good links out there?
oh fuck, how much faddy with the winner? COYB
Good speed from Distin there
Anyone notice Donovan getting caught in possesion ? That happened to one of my mates and he was told he wouldn’t be able to ever go back to the US.
Tim, should have laid it off
Cahill should have scored there!
Tim and Pienaar yelling at each other...not a good sign
Time for little Jack to do the business.
We need the win here, a draw really gives us nothing.
Francis: "Once again good refereeing from Probert..."
What a bag of knobs
What a bag of knobs
Fuck.
Anichebe cant stay fit for 90 minutes - he’s a liability, goal or no goal.
Okay, Super Gos with the winner, COYB
God I hate those Brummie cunts!
LD back to his pub team next week...sad, sad
Gosling is a shocking player, Will.
Great. Vaughan on loan, now we’ve no more striker.
What must Billy do to get a game?
What must Billy do to get a game?
Play better.
Be able to run faster than a turtle would be a start, Jason Heng..
U can clearly see how much Francis loves Brum and thinks we are a load of fouling, diving twats
Fuckwit
Fuckwit
Donovan’s touch a bit off today
Gosling, no passing please...just get the winner!
Gosling = worst player we’ve had in years.
Right, I’ll say it - Gosling is shite!
So many squandered points this season
Gosling = 12 years old, give the kid a chance...
Hang on lads, Gosling was a hero against Man u, make your minds up!
Fucking useless
Gosling, almost the winner
(Brian) - shhh - I said that hoping he would be the one to score
Awful. I quit. I wish, see you next time lads
Gosling wasnt a hero against Utd, the ball hit him and went in - I couldve scored that one Brian!
He’s a shocking player.
To be fair today, Brum are a decent side - their league position says that and they’ve given most teams a tough game this season so going there and getting a draw aint a bad result.
Sure its a shame going 2 up and drawing, but thats football eh. Don’t beat yerselves up about it.
He’s a shocking player.
To be fair today, Brum are a decent side - their league position says that and they’ve given most teams a tough game this season so going there and getting a draw aint a bad result.
Sure its a shame going 2 up and drawing, but thats football eh. Don’t beat yerselves up about it.
The reason I am so upset about it Sean, is that Villa dropped 2 points today against Stoke. A win today would have seen us a point behind them, and 4 points off the shite. Birmingham looked to have more desire in the 2nd half than us, thats what pisses me off. Its useless to move on in technical ability, unless you maintain the same level of battling and desire when you are up against a tough team where you have to grind out a win.
There were far too many Jagielka route one balls today, and that is not a dig at him. It was all he could do in that position as his midfield runs forward when its knocked back, instead of supporting him, and dragging the opposition out a bit more. A point is not bad by any means, but I think we are a better footballing side than what we showed over ninety minutes. We need to evolve, and show a different tactic when we are getting pressed. As up to now when teams try and stifle us rather than playing themselves, its working a treat.
There were far too many Jagielka route one balls today, and that is not a dig at him. It was all he could do in that position as his midfield runs forward when its knocked back, instead of supporting him, and dragging the opposition out a bit more. A point is not bad by any means, but I think we are a better footballing side than what we showed over ninety minutes. We need to evolve, and show a different tactic when we are getting pressed. As up to now when teams try and stifle us rather than playing themselves, its working a treat.
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