All a ploy for a pay rise here?

To be frank I was a bit non-plussed by it because logically Spurs would never approach an "ends justify the means" type.

But the "Moyes miracles myth" sells so well it could've happened.

I've always preferred facing difficulty rather than the head under the blankets stuff so it's anathema to me cacking it about Moyes going, cos he will one day.

The Norwich City swift, decisive and dignified response to Losing Lambert was an object lesson in turning a crap situation around. Not for one moment do I entertain the apocalyptic view of Moyes departure ? rather see it as a great opportunity, TBH.

I definitely do not feel that in our financial situation we should be giving a pay rise to already one of the best paid managers in world football.

But the reality is that we will as Moyes guarantees Blue Bill Premier League football and he will pay him whatever wants for it.

Saw that on Twitter earlier. BBC said it's rubbish.

It's the close season and we are now, with the lack of anything else to talk about on , what is it? our 4th 5th ot even 6th Moyes thread. Sometimes it is interesting to get in a debate ( for a small time ) but we are mostly arguing about how many Moyes angels can dance on the head of a Moyes pin....The answer being; as many as want to at any given moment, aka there is no answer. Same with Moyes until he leaves.

I think Moyes will stay because he will not be offered the job at Spurs.
But I have to admit I feared him leaving, but now I think we are safe, at least until his contract runs out.

In this this past year of manager changing turmoil across the Prem not on single team has even called Davey Boy for an interview, and he has not had to reject any approaches either. Which says it all.

Do I fear Dave Wilson's Davey Boy will go? ? not at all; my biggest fear is that he will stay and the dross will continue.

He's got to go sometime and we'll continue on just like we have done in the 120 odd years before he came.

No need to piss on Moyes, he has done a good job here and will still do so.

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If Moyes goes, so will some of the playing staff, probably the best players who are probably going to leave anyway. A new manager will be unveiled, a new season will be upon us and we'll play football and either win lose or draw.

If the new manager is successful I'll be happy, if he's unsuccessful I'll be unhappy, as far as football goes and I'll continue supporting them whether the team reaches the Champions League or end up in the Northern Premier.

One thing I won't do is if we do get a new manager, is get on his back if the team does badly and I'll not pop up here telling spouting 'told you so's'. If there is a new manager and there's been 12 (I think- counting Kendall's 3 spells) since I started watching them - he'll get my support and my sympathy for having to deal with skint arse Kenwright. If he's plainly not good enough I'll probably be critical - as I am with Moyes.

Life will go on, the team will not die - well, not right away - but if we ever are relegated with Kenwright at the helm, we'll reap a financial whirlwind and will go into administration - there's absolutely no doubt about that. I'm a little bit scared of that - as I'll have fuck all to do on a Saturday and might have to find another hobby.

There is one thing I'd like though - when Everton do get a new manager, and all things come to an end Eventually - I hope his name begins with a 'Q' or a 'Z' - why?

To fuck up the alliteration freaks - now that will be funny.

The root problem is Kenwright. His inability to run the club and generate income and his refusal to sell up and ship out have put terrible shackles on Moyes.

I want Moyes to stay, I want Kenwright to leave. I would hate to see Moyesy proved conclusively to be a top class manager, but only at another club, because he had some money to spend rather than having to sell all his best players just to survive.

Kenwright out.

Ironically, as a 'Moyesophile' part of me was hoping that he might go. I think he's done great work here but agree with many that he may have taken us as far as he can. Of course things could and very possibly would go downhill but a change in style could be exciting and productive. Martinez would surely have been the man and that may have been interesting.

As it is I think next season rests in Kenwrights hands not in Moyes'. If we can hold onto our starting 11, make a little cash from the fringes and bring in Pienaar and maybe an interesting loan/freebie or two then we have every chance of starting next season like we finished last. If however speculation unsettles the squad, we sell Baines and/or Fellaini at the last minute and don't bring anyone in till january then I think we can expect the usual dire start...Eyes on the boardroom.

During the early 2000's after yet another expensive import flopped - all topped off by Slavin Bilic costing a fortune to buy (£4.5 million in 1997), a fortune to pay and not able to play again or to be sold. We were broke, flirting with relegation and about to lose anther manager and with an owner desperate to leave, selling our biggest hero one evening behind everyone's back - imagine Jelovic scoring 20 goals this season and in January our owner announcing one morning after a home match he had been sold the previous evening without telling the manager in a handshake deal with the chairman of last nights opposition while we were all watching the match.

We needed someone to come in, avoid relegation with no money to spend, make money via player trading and rebuild a ruined club. That is what Moyes did (with True Blue at first, but since then pretty much in partnership with Kenwright). We still have debts as lots had to be found to help our survival and climb up the table, but he will keep us returning to Wembley an before too long we will win something.

Does he earn too much? We finish regularly 4-5 places higher up the league than we should going on our resources - the money earned from that alone is currently £3-4 million. He is well worth his money.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Good one, Peter!

With or Without Moyes, life and Everton will go on. So will my Matchday experience.
The Springy will still have Ham and tomato sarnies on the bar before every game, I still be losing my Ayrton in the betting shop facing the Brick, Penkeridge will still be swamped with Evertonians when we play in the Midlands, the Bizzies will still be gobshites in Newcastle, the seedy little boozers around Plaistow will still make West Ham My favourite . and Manchester will indeed still be full of shit.

My only concern is, that Peter Barry`s boy will be selecting his successor and after all that wonderful football we were playing in the second Part of the season, I dont trust him to bring in a manager who can build on it.

Incidentally, who has hijacked Jimmy Sorheim's account?

The fact that no club has made an approach for our manager does not "say it all."

No club attempted to nab Wenger or Ferguson either.

To sum up the 10 years under Moyes as "dross," is frankly, petulant.

My cat gives more thought to the situation at Goodison than blinkered, the fanatical and the easilly lead, who seem to believe that a Chairman who has fucked just about everything he has been involved in, will suddenly discover the Midas touch.

"Blinkered, fanatical and easily led" just because he sat next to BK on SKY praising, indeed recommending him, only a month ago.

Can you not give the guy a break......... at least once?

I hope you can sleep at night.

(btw your cat sounds a shoe-in for the spurs job)

Stop it!!

Classic. My sides are really sore now.

Maybe I shoulda mentioned the exceptionally stupid too

Why would you want to talk about yourself in that way?

You seem to be labouring the point that Moyes wasnt interviewed by Chelsea or Spurs. You seem to think this actually means something.

While you`re waiting for KH`S list, Why not give us a list of the Managers who HAVE been interviewed by either of these clubs.

Make it a lengthy one mind, imagine how embarresing it`ll be if/when Kevins list turns out to be longer than yours ?

Thanks, Peter, duly noted.

(I forgot I was dealing with an intellectual titan).

Oh and please none of the 'he doesn't want to go and they know it ' fantasy BS. When has that ever stopped a Prem club tapping up players and managers on contract with other clubs when they want them?

I gave you the opportunity to show us you have half an idea of what you were talking about.
Are you now admitting you have got the name of a single manager who HAS been interviewed by Cheslea or Spurs? ... not one?

So where does that leave you and the other Moyesophiles who are continuously posting all your fawning compliments to him here on TW.

I wasnt claiming I was the "arbiter".

but I was pointing out to you that you had the opportunity to salvage some credibility by listing the people you knew had been inteviewed. You didnt, you couldnt. Window - credibilty - out.

I think the football world was a different place when Paisley was in his pomp. No Sky, hence little "speculation" , which is a euphemism for downright lies or unsubstantiated crap, and far less coverage on TV. AND the Echo was worth reading.

Lots of happy Springfield memories as a kid in the 70s then into the early 80s every other weekend with me brothers dad, uncles and the bar posse. When I say happy this was the seventies, so of course slim pickings on the field, but great blues match day occasions.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks Moyes not being taken by a 'top' club is evidence of anything, is it because the world renowned Kevin Garside had a pop about it?

In the past 3-4 years Man City have signed Bridge, Kolarov and Clichy to play left back, Arsenal have signed Andre Santos, Liverpool have had Konchesky and Enrique and Aston Villa (!!!) have taken Shorey and Warnock. Does anyone think these are all better than Baines? It's exactly the same logic but I'm guessing not many of you would agree with that?

Good point, well made.

But too accurate for some..

Mancini was widely reported to be waiting in the wings for the inevitable moment when Mark huges was ditched.

Now given Man U and Arsenal have not been in the market for a manager, Ya have to ask yourself . .where are all these top jobs that have gone begging ?

it`s hillarious that some people claim Moyes supporters are always advocating him for other jobs, would they not be the very people who want him to stay ?

Anyway Peter Barry

when Kenwright gave him a five year deal, it meant others would have to pay a lot of compensation to take Moyes. So even if he wasnt the highest earner, he`d have been one of the costliest.

So eat your heart out, because I suspect your hero is about to offer him an even better contract.

He could be here for another decade

Just healing the blind - its a calling.

By all means, gleefully trumpet Moyes's (apparently glaring) absence from the topical flavours-of-the-month, to prop-up your latest, and staggeringly-bovine, daily whines..

Grasp at whatever straw you can to unsuccessfully mask an ultimately wafer-thin insight, and obviously-worrying bigotry towards the man responsible for the most consistent period in our Premiership history. (I know, blah-blah etc..)

Also...Surely you are aware that the "meejah,"as you put it, (and can someone PLEASE file, then dump, that one alongside other puerile, un-funny buzzwords such as: "Chelski," "Citeh," and "Engerland"? ) were at one stage briefly linking him with the England gig, the Sunderland job, the Aston Villa dug-out, just as they have (at several times) pegged him to supplant Sir Alex Ferguson one day.

(Nb: Completely unsubstantiated, page-filling, probable, if not indeed actual bollocks).

In effect, because disingenous hacks have failed to link a settled, established, and in my opinion, absolutely-going-nowhere-manager, this LESSENS him in your eyes..

The lament of the Pub Bore.

(Lad).

'Ov' is more Russian... Romanov, Kalashnikov etc...

Chealsov just sounds shite though...