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No contact regarding Laudrup so far
The Dane has been strongly linked with the Goodison hotseat since Moyes announced his intention to leave and take the reins at Manchester United but he would not come cheap.
The new contract he signed at the Liberty Stadium in March reportedly has an escape clause of around £5m and there would likely be additional compensation required on top of that to land him.
Real Madrid, who could more easily afford to prise the 48 year-old away from Swansea, are also said to be interested.
According to reports and speculation, Kenwright has interviewed three internal candidates and will talk to a number of external prospects as well before making his decision.
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077 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:54:45
079 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:55:52
081 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:57:38
084 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:00:55
093 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:06:20
Can't see Kenwright doing anything other than playing cheap and safe tbh which probably means Robert Elstone taking over team affairs.
097 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:17:55
Bielsa did the unthinkable at Argentina and refused to play Riquelmhe. yes that Riquelmhe, Juan Roman, to be precise.
Beilsa does not have a role for the traditional number 10 in his style of play. It's all about explosive football and high insensitive pressing. Riquelmhe is neither explosive nor fit, and never has been. At the height of his powers, Riquelmhe was too good to be left out, Bielsa's tactics were compromised and he failed as Riquelmhe could not fit into his style of play. Argentina were not disastrous and he was margins away from success to be fair to the guy. He learnt a lesson form that day, and has since never comprised again. It's now his way or the highway. And his way is best, otherwise Klopp, directly, and Bayern indirectly, would not be contesting the Champions League Final with two teams based entirely upon his philosophies. Guardiola is another of his high profile disciples.
098 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:19:39
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102 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:25:48
103 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:29:21
109 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:31:51
112 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:35:07
On Laudrup what his lauding shows is the power of the media. When he was on MOTD they were fawning over him. He was a great player and because of this the media have amplified his managerial abilities to ridiculous levels. Seriously he wins England's 4th most important competition against a 4th division club and people are thinking he may go to Real Madrid? get real
115 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:39:49
I don't think I am the only Evertonian whose Spanish side is Bilbao. I have always had an intrigue for the club our manager left us for and this has only grown on understanding why a club which can only recruit basque players can be one with an English name that has predominantly been managed by foreigners from the start and mainly by Englishmen. When bielsa went there, it intensified my interest in the club, and I have since followed everything I can find written about the guy.
120 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:56:51
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6943705.stm
135 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:16:45
139 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:36:44
143 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:41:00
Flavour of the month sure but I doubt he will be around in a year or two
146 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:45:47
153 Posted 24/05/2013 at 00:02:14
160 Posted 24/05/2013 at 01:19:52
162 Posted 24/05/2013 at 01:38:25
Beelzebub meets Bielsa in south France? BK doesn't even know who Bielsa is! Your also clearly mad if you think BK spent money on a flight that Ryan Air does not offer.
164 Posted 24/05/2013 at 02:17:16
166 Posted 24/05/2013 at 02:25:54
174 Posted 24/05/2013 at 04:03:24
Can't think of many steady, trustworthy alternatives apart from Neville with Stubbs, Irvine, Weir or Round but that's too scary to dwell on.
183 Posted 24/05/2013 at 07:06:28
215 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:55:12
So in a way, Me, Steve and you have convinced everyone for Bielsa. I'm not taking the credit mate. Don't shoot, I is the messenger!
217 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:57:53
This is what we need you to tweet Paulo. If John Crawley can find those twitter addresses, we can send this to all of them. This could get something moving.
It may be abolute rubbish, but we all thought Paddy Power's rumours about Fergie's retirement was rubbish didn't we?
Good post Paulo. Someone tweet that NOW!
221 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:21:59
@StellingJeff
@paddypower
@bbc606
/@Joey7Barton
@philmcnulty (football correspondent for BBC)
@mdunn1982 (head of sport for sun)
@ColinMurray
@CWheelerDM (North West sports reporter for Daily Mail)
@SteveWilson1967 (BBC match of day commentator)
@talkSPORTKO
@mickquinn1089
@neilashton_ (football writer Daily Mail)
@MirrorFootball
@BKL_Productions (Bill Kenwright's official twitter)
@tSPressPass
@iomatrix23 (Marco Materatzi!)
222 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:07:43
And by your own admission you think he will be a great appointment because World Soccer Magazine told you so!!
Quite staggering...Do you not think that if he was all that then a top club either english or european would have been sniffing round him...I havent heard St.Bielsas name linked with R.Madrid.....have you????
And as for kev and ross.....you two are a joke....you only want Bielsa because Steve told you hes a top manager..
Dont you have your own opinions?? Your like kids in a classroom the lot of ya....."steve told us to miss because he knows best"
224 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:18:29
227 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:28:09
228 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:32:42
230 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:34:58
232 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:36:26
237 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:46:42
238 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:50:18
240 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:53:52
241 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:02:13
242 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:01:26
244 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:04:25
245 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:04:29
'Very soon': I can't bear it any longer
246 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:51:59
Staying quite = I am waiting for you to come knocking, but last time I did a public job interview it went belly up (Martinez)
I have a lot of respect for Everton = I would take it is it were offered, but know thee is almost no chance. (Benithez)
Laudrups “no” seems to me to be a true “no”
I’m flattered = I would like this job, and will take it if personal terms can be agreed.
Has anyone apart from GN said they are flattered?
Anyone know the public reactions of various candidates?
248 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:08:53
249 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:18:07
I haven't been this excited about a mythical set of pictures since Lucy Pinder finally got her Nips out!!!
250 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:12:14
251 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:22:01
Somebody pinch me...!
252 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:16:28
253 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:26:44
Not as camp as Timothy anyway...
254 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:29:45
255 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:09:26
Bilbao's performance against Man Utd the season before last struck me at the time as the best club performance I had seen in a very long time. I was (and am) bored of Spanish tippy-tappy stuff, but I was hugely impressed by the dynamism of Bielsa's team. When you factored in that Bilbao only use Basque players it was even more incredible.
At this point I realised that the manager had also been in charge of Chile in the previous World Cup, when they had played with admirable skill, verve, intensity and attacking intent. I also remembered that he had managed Argentina, not entirely successfully from what I knew. I'd come across various articles about him which made him sound like something of a maverick, with a unique take on the game, but it was the Bilbao magnificent performances against Man Utd that made me put all of the pieces of the jigsaw together. I formed the opinion then that Bielsa is an inspired tactician, and it made me laugh (or, rather, snort with derision) when people praised the arch pragmatist DM for his tactics, even going so far as to describe them as "innovative".
Like kids in a classroom, eh? I suggest you do a bit of homework, Mr Shearer.
257 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:34:01
Dont you see the point im making?
Bilbao, Napoli, Chile, Argentina etc....all a mixture of South American and continental Football....
Never managed in England before and your wanting him to use ua as an experiment to see if he cuts the mustard...
No thanks, were not Sunderland or Stoke etc....were EFC!!
Plus, his continental approach to tactics may not be of any use in the fast paced, physical world of English Football....maybe in Spain or South America it would because its slower with more time on the ball with more emphasis in technique...
Your thinking of the wrong Everton lad, your confusing us with the Everton in chile!
So forget this silly notion of hiring Bielsa once and for all...
Go home, give ur head a wobble, do your homework and get under ya duvet and have a long long sleep......
258 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:50:00
261 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:03:37
262 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:00:41
I'm not sure whether it's a good idea as it means somebody who fails to qualify from CL groups and goes into Uefa will have a second-bite at qualifying for CL.
So if this had been in place this season Chelsea would have qualified virtue of winning Uefa, but it's not clear whether Spurs would have got a place in next season's CL virtue of Chelsea.
Maybe someone has more information on this.
267 Posted 24/05/2013 at 11:55:38
268 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:14:51
269 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:15:53
270 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:22:06
271 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:24:43
272 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:25:33
273 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:28:50
274 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:29:25
275 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:30:28
Paolo - Come on, we're all dying to see these photos of Bill at the bar in The Rover's Return with some bloke photoshopped in next to him... ;)
276 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:27:06
277 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:35:20
I'm a joke eh? Who do you want as the next manager exactly?
278 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:34:00
279 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:36:43
280 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:41:29
282 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:44:26
283 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:10:39
No I do not think that Bielsa is a great manager because World Soccer Mag told me so. I said my interest in him was started after listening to Tim Vickery talk about him on Radio 5. I have linked and named all of the informed football journalists I am aware of, because they all agree on the guy being an outstanding and innovative coach. I challenge you to find a football journalist who does not rate him. And do not quote some bloke from a tabloid.
As I said previously, Bilbao are my spanish team, and have been since Kendall went there in 1987. I watch every game shown on sky sports, which since Bielsa came increased dramatically. I watch a lot of others other live streams. I can formulate an opinion based on what I can see.
Furthermore, Bielsa is someone that people love to write about, post videos about and his press conferences are frequnetly dissected and used as the basis for coaching classes. The likes of Moyes and other coaches who look to develop thier skills frequently go to seminars where what Bielsa is up to is the subject of the day. On an aside, I noted with interest Klinnsmans comments on Moyes and Everton and his attendances at these seminars.
As for no big club being interested in Beilsa, you are wrong. He has been approached by many big clubs over the years, including Barcelona and most recently Inter Milan (Summer 2012 to be precise) but typical Bielsa he turned them down as he does not like managing big clubs, as he prefers a club which will allow him to stamp himself all over the club from top to bottom, in a similar way to what he has done here.
Bielsa is clearly the manager's manager and every coach you can find talking about Bielsa hails him as a genius. I think others have commented on his lack of success, but I think you'll find that he's laden with trophies in Argentina, where he was the countries top dog before being given the job with the national side. He also was pulling Espanyol up the table in La Liga at the time of getting the Chilé job. Napoli want him and they have Champions League football to offer him.
If you want Everton to get to the top, without spending money, then you need a manager like Bielsa. The best someone like Martinez can do is to keep us where we are, but I seriously have my doubts. I request a top class coach first and foremost and believe it is time to finally look abroad. There's a reason the national game lacks technique and that is down to British coaching.
The English game is no where near as fast as it once was, and the leagues of Italy and Spain are not as slow as they once where. Just google videos of Everton in the 80s to see how much quicker the game was back then. Bielsa is the only coach I can see with the vision, tactics, strategy, and coaching abilities to take us to the next level without the need for major investment. Buy hey, you put forward your Harry Redknapp dinosaur types if you want.
285 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:45:48
Pooo huge liar......
287 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:53:34
288 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:55:42
289 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:58:06
290 Posted 24/05/2013 at 12:53:56
291 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:02:05
293 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:01:50
Interestingly since the shortlist was rumoured on Sky a name that wasn't on that list has seen their odds drop sharply to 4th Favourite today, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. The bookies must be loving this take over, new favourites every day.
294 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:09:19
295 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:00:47
How long was the Espanyol success story? I think I read a couple of months.
You might be right, and he may be a genius, but everything I've read (as a result of your posts - I didn't just dismiss it) makes him sound very high risk. A short term manager who implements his philosophy regardless of whether he's got the players to play it, and unproven at domestic level beyond some Argentinian sides 15-20 years ago.
You must see he would come with significant risk?
298 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:21:38
I can't see him coming because BK is entranced by DM and seems to want to more of the same. He thinks we have done wonderfully well in the last 11 years and wants someone to carry on the good work. Bielsa is a radical change of direction. I don't see BK going for that at all.
299 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:13:14
Bielsa would raise our profile. Bielsa is a rent-a-quote. He's the most quoted man in spain at the moment. He says funny things and as a result everyone loves him and everyone listens. This would mean we would get more media exposure which would have a positive knock on effect for us.
Bielsa however, would be less risk than other managers in a lot of other ways. No compensation, as he is out of contract. He's unlikely to spend big, unlike most of the other candidates, and therefore he's unlikely to leave a financial black hole on leaving. He's also never one to be sacked and paid off. Bielsa usually finishes his contract or walks away. So it's unlikely we would have to pay him off it does go wrong.
The builders story is a mountain out of a molehill and differs depending on where you read it and may be down to translation issues and trying to make it all fit in with the El Loco image. Bielsa is a much calmer man than Moyes, he has never grabbed a player around the throat (AVDM) and after losing the Europa Leage and Spanish Cup finals (see the youtube vid I posted) was relaxed calm and composed as he addressed his team at length after the game.
So whilst there is risk I do not think it's a high stakes gamble as someone else might be.
As for Espanyol, no it was not a success story, it was ended very early, but he was going in the right direction, i.e. upwards. Bilbao were a mess when he took over, yes they had had some good young players, they always do, but they didn't sack Caparrós for nothing. They sounded out Bielsa and let Caparros go.
Bielsa was a success even though the team dipped in terms of position. The previous year they had snuck up at the end of the season (and don't forget there had been financial irregularites at Majorca leading to a loss of points) and in Bielsa's first season they did the opposite. They had a terrible start as the team sturggled to cope with Bielsa's tactics (always happens at first) and then went on a terrific run to be in 6th and just points off the CL places. They then ran out of gas and the players looked completely spent and results went against them.
Bilbao is a lot like Liverpool, in that it is a football mad area, poorer than the average place in Spain, and with a port. They, like Liverpool (perhaps for poverty reasons) seem to have an endless conveyor belt of talent and with the Cantera policy they seem to have 3 or 4 players coming through a season. I think we do have something of a production line here and Bielsa could tap into that.
In short, Ernie, I think it can only be Bielsa and it's a risk not to get him in as someone else is likely to spend a fortune (Fellaini, Baines, and TV Money?) chasing a dream without a plan in place. Bielsa has the plan and would probably not cost us millions in giving him a try, but would raise our profile in doing so. My belief is he would be a success here.
300 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:34:28
301 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:40:14
306 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:44:52
Paolo, nooooooooo!!!!
307 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:50:00
308 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:49:26
If Bielsa had been able to keep that side in tact, then I think this season Bilbao would have beena minimum of 4th in the Spanish League.
309 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:54:21
310 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:56:28
Surely worth a quid?
311 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:55:48
312 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:02:47
315 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:54:13
316 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:19:06
328 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:49:05
330 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:47:26
Hes just serving some customers?????????
I like acting the goat as much as the next man but enough is enough.....
Next you will be telling us you saw Kenwright going in the Lisbon pub with Timothy Jones wearing high heels and royal blue stockings!!!!!!
331 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:52:52
335 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:59:36
338 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:05:29
Pererira's Pups
Laudrup's or Lennon's Lions
Martinez's or Malkay's Men
Phil's Finest
Which will it be to replace Moyes' Boys
339 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:14:19
346 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:26:22
Duncan Duncan Ferguson!!!!!!!!!!
347 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:31:07
351 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:44:02
352 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:48:04
353 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:48:04
354 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:53:24
355 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:51:01
356 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:53:57
357 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:57:35
359 Posted 24/05/2013 at 15:56:12
360 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:02:06
And Shane - in the case of our manager, the odds seem to mean nothing at present
361 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:03:38
363 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:05:49
364 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:06:19
365 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:02:55
366 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:03:47
This is what we should be aspiring to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22414356
367 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:07:03
369 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:07:17
370 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:07:24
Anyone remember when Phelan turned us down to join Man U from Norwich as a player? We didn't miss out there. Secondary question, Mike Milligan - did we sign him from or sell him to Norwich?
371 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:08:05
375 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:08:51
Rob it blind
376 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:12:15
377 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:07:02
378 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:14:29
381 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:15:23
382 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:19:50
383 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:22:05
386 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:24:27
There's also a strong rumour emerging that the Dark Side have their eyes on a certain Mr Lescott.
At least we'll always have Leon.
393 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:34:22
400 Posted 24/05/2013 at 16:48:18
Klopp has probably outshone Bielsa for me I think what he has done at BVD is has been incredible. In an age where success is here today gone tomorrow he has built something truly admirable there. I wouldn't want to be a Chelsea or City and just buy success it's hollow. But we have no chance of Klopp so I agree Bielsa would be a smart move.
Sadly when it's announced I think we are all in for a massive letdown.
407 Posted 24/05/2013 at 17:11:50
413 Posted 24/05/2013 at 17:42:21
415 Posted 24/05/2013 at 17:50:14
Just either put the photo up, or say you are bullshitting. Email it to the editors of the site, and if they think it is genuine, maybe they can put it up.
422 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:05:37
424 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:19:08
426 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:21:59
Get cracking jackanory!!!
429 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:27:14
431 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:29:49
485 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:24:48
490 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:35:44
492 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:29:03
Believe in our great leader. Not everyone has stood head and shoulders above everyone else in the boys pen. Not everyone has been fondled in the kop by 10.000 rs pervs. Not everyone can summon up instant tears whenever the cameras zoom in on him. Not everyone can stammer and drool when talking about darling David.
BK, I believe in you great leader. You are my guiding light, my eternal sunshine, my inspiration. I believe!!
502 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:47:48
505 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:50:45
514 Posted 24/05/2013 at 21:00:26
559 Posted 24/05/2013 at 22:01:09
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074 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:43:54
We haven't contacted a man who we can't afford, doesn't want to come and may possibly be offered the RM job.
I'm not sure about Laudrup anyway. He seems to jump ship very quickly and I'm not really sure what he's done to benefit a club other than the Tin Pot cup. There's plenty of managers who were well regarded as players, who have won trophies and could be tempted. Why aren't the likes of Blanc, Deschamps, Simeone and all the other I can't think of being mentioned? Would Laudrup even be mentioned in the media if he didn't live on these isles?