McCarthy injury may need surgery as speculation swirls over his future

27 August  59 Comments  [Jump to last]
Updated The extent of James McCarthy's groin injury will be assessed to see if he will have to go under the knife to correct the problem.

The Irish international was left out of the squad for today's win over Stoke, raising eyebrows following a report from MailOnline that suggested he had requested a move from Goodison Park in order to secure guaranteed first-team football.

Ronald Koeman indicated that he has no intention of letting McCarthy leave this window and spoke in terms of business as usual with regard to the midfielder's prognosis and potential treatment.

"There is more interest in players of Everton and we like to keep everybody and players like McCarthy need to stay," Koeman said after the game.

"McCarthy has a groin problem and we will decide tomorrow whether he needs an operation."

It's not clear if McCarthy's issue is related to the thigh/groin injury that affected his preparations for Euro2016 this summer.

Regardless, media chatter about a possible move away from Goodison continues, with Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Celtic and now Leicester City all said to be interested.

Leicester's interest has been signalled by the Express's Paul Joyce who has closer sources to the Blues than most journalists.

 

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Stephen Davies
1 Posted 27/08/2016 at 20:21:24
Apparently seen in Glasgow today.
Stephen Davies
2 Posted 27/08/2016 at 20:29:11
He has still got much to give the club so I hope he stays.
Stewart Lowe
3 Posted 27/08/2016 at 20:56:54
Would gladly pack his bag and pay for the taxi. Missing in action far too many times. You could quite easily watch a full game and be watching McCarthy trudging off the pitch at the end only to think, did McCarthy play today? I hadn't noticed.
Martin Mason
4 Posted 27/08/2016 at 21:24:24
Like some others he was perfect for Everton pre-Moshiri & Koeman and patently unsuitable for a team with aspirations to get to the top. He can't replace Barry, he isn't good enough and he's right footed.

How can we replace Gareth Barry? What a player but even he isn't good enough to get us to the top. He wasn't good enough for Man City and he isn't good enough for us longer term. God answered our prayers in the early '80s with Kevin Sheedy, can we have another one?

Kevin Rowlands
5 Posted 27/08/2016 at 21:29:41
Bit harsh that Stewart, McCarthy was outstanding 1st season with us but the performances fell off especially last season but I think the same could be said for most of the team under that fool we thankfully got rid of.

We can't expect Barry to play every game at his age and JM is a good option to fill in for him, anyway it's a mute point now, Koeman has already said he will not be sold and with this injury no chance he'll be gone this coming week.

Tony Hill
6 Posted 27/08/2016 at 21:56:15
I think he's a fine player who has had a bad run with confidence and fitness and Koeman is far too clever a football man to let him go. Still young and will be a major asset for us.
Thomas Surgenor
7 Posted 27/08/2016 at 21:59:22
Kevin #5

I respectfully disagree. McCarthy and Barry are completely different players in my opinion.

James is more like Gana and would be a better deputy for him. Gana is doing everything McCarthy was supposed to be doing last season. If we could get the James McCarthy 2013-14 version back he would have a lot to offer us.

Oliver Molloy
8 Posted 27/08/2016 at 22:00:39
Stephen,

"Apparently seen in Glasgow today" – by who?

Mark Morrissey
9 Posted 27/08/2016 at 22:03:10
McCarthy to Newcastle and Sissoko to us + cash ?
David Hallwood
10 Posted 27/08/2016 at 22:18:10
I thought the headline was going to say McCarthy may need surgery to remove Gana from the team...

John Raftery
11 Posted 27/08/2016 at 22:23:26
McCarthy has struggled with this injury since last November. He went off with 20 minutes remaining at Bournemouth and, though he returned a month later, he was never fully fit for the rest of the season and going into the Euros.

Let's hope they find a solution, surgery or otherwise. Fully fit, he would improve the majority of Premier League squads – including ours.

Lyndon Lloyd
12 Posted 27/08/2016 at 23:04:59
Oliver (8), this was posted to Twitter earlier. No idea whether the photo was taken today, of course, but there are rumours on Twitter and Reddit that if it emerges he doesn't need surgery, he could go to Celtic on loan.

If we are to lose him – a risk if we don't sign someone else for CM while Besic is injured – I'd prefer it be a cash sale but that's just me

Damian Wilde
13 Posted 27/08/2016 at 23:19:31
Poor player, really hope he leaves. Barry and Geuye fantastic today.
Andy Crooks
14 Posted 27/08/2016 at 23:36:14
Lyndon, that is Glasgow no doubt, that is James. Has the football world gone mad? I have supported and defended Scottish football on this site for years.

No one who has been on this site for many years will have missed my view that Walter Smith saved Everton. Or indeed the respect I have for the admirable Neil Lennon. But, McCarthy is better than that.

Kase Chow
15 Posted 27/08/2016 at 23:45:21
Walter Smith saved Everton #14???

Are you joking? The performances were rubbish. What we 'achieved' in his reign was rubbish – that period was God awful!!!

It's due to reigns like his that I'm so grateful we had Moyes (and I can see that Moyes had major limitations).

That's one of the most amazing things I've ever read on this site.

Mick Davies
16 Posted 27/08/2016 at 23:51:48
I like Macca and think he's got a lot to offer EFC when fit, but if he was in Glasgow for no good reason while the team were playing, then he's dropped down a lot in my estimation.
Bobby Thomas
17 Posted 27/08/2016 at 23:53:45
McCarthy has been on auto-pilot for about 18 months. He's a good, limited, hard working defensive mid with barely a forward ball in him. If he left it would, in the main, provoke a collective shrug.

As he can do a bit of wing back and full back as well as providing depth for the mid, he would be handy to keep around, for now. I doubt Koeman is looking to weaken the squad too much at the moment but if he stays I can see Koeman dealing him out in January or next summer.

Oh, and Gareth Barry was a mainstay of the Man City side that won its first Premier League a few years back. Definitely good enough for them.

Garry Corgan
18 Posted 28/08/2016 at 00:05:14
If McCarthy goes anywhere, I won't lose any sleep. Another of Martinez's buys from Wigan, like Alcaraz and Kone, that could have gone better.

I'd hoped to see James kick on but, if not, that's fine – we need better than he's shown for the last two years anyway.

Eric Holland
19 Posted 28/08/2016 at 00:10:23
Don't think we will get more than £8 million for him.
Mike Gwyer
20 Posted 28/08/2016 at 00:28:23
Eric.

Seriously. £8 million. I have no doubt that we will get our money back and probably more. McCarthy has many critics on TW but he is definitely a footballer who will be in high demand to other EPL clubs.

Kristian Boyce
21 Posted 28/08/2016 at 00:58:21
Unfortunately for McCarthy he's stuck with Martinez for a number of seasons, and the potential he had as a youngster has been sucked out of him.

I remember when he first burst into the scene as a 16-year-old at Hamilton Academicals. He was a classic box-to-box midfielder who was hyped to have a huge future. He had loads of big name teams watching him including Man Utd, Liverpool as well as teams across Europe. He ended up signing for Wigan in a double deal with James McAthur.

Under Martinez, he pushed him into a defensive midfielder role, probably in the same style a Martinez as a player. Being retrained in that role sucked any creative play out of him and basically turned him into the midfield enforcer, breaking up general play. His first season here he did really well in that role along side Barry. Unfortunately he never added to it and severely lacked any creative element to be anything other than a basic footballer.

The other players in that midfield area (Gueye, Besic and Barry) all can do the same job, and each have a creative element to their games. Even grandpa Barry has shown that at even at 36, his driving runs and scoring threat puts McCarthy to shame. With the squad we have, and potentially new reinforcements, I'd take an offer for him. I think there's teams who would pay £15-20m for him on his form from 2 years ago.

Anthony Dwyer
22 Posted 28/08/2016 at 01:45:32
Some harsh comments on Jimmy Mc lately on ToffeeWeb, I think so many fans associate him with Martinez.

Imo Jimmy Mc still has a lot to offer the club, and unless we replaced him would leave a huge gap. Gibson and Cleverly simply are not on his level, and Besic is injured and still unproven at the level.

If we do not need the money then there are many at the blues is ship out before McCarthy.

Alex Jones
23 Posted 28/08/2016 at 02:13:25
Whilst Gibson is a crock, we always played miles better when he came on the pitch than we did with McCarthy on.

He wasn't even that good in his first season. He was good up till Christmas and then as awful afterwards as he's been recently.

The real shame is ,against Man Utd last season and against Arsenal the season before, he showed he could play like Gueye but for some reason he never consistently did it.

Scott Goin
24 Posted 28/08/2016 at 04:21:01
Lyndon @12 - Is it really that cold there? Why are they wearing jackets?
Alan J Thompson
25 Posted 28/08/2016 at 04:38:26
Mike(#20); £8 mill is as much as you'll get out of Scotland for anyone these days and Everton paid way over the odds when we bought him.
Tim Greeley
26 Posted 28/08/2016 at 04:43:43
And the sweatpants too!? Scotland... the scum of the fucking Earth. According to Trainspotting, not me. I think it looks lovely.
Tony Draper
27 Posted 28/08/2016 at 05:04:26
When I read "Gibson, Cleverley, McCarthy and Besic", I feel just underwhelmed. Then throw in McGeady and I reckon that's a taxi-full.

Mo Besic, OK, I want Mo to stay and get strong and contest. Because of any of "The taxi lads" he has feistiness and that is rare. But like ALL of these lads the clock is running and I am tired of Everton being a "sympathy club", a home for footballers with broken dreams.

Sympathy and "maybe he" has won us precisely fuck all since 1995. An end to the players who can't complete the equivalent of a full season of appearances over a three or four year contract.

Rob Hooton
28 Posted 28/08/2016 at 05:10:03
Tony, 27 - hear, hear, – too many 'players' who never play on our books last few years, should appreciate pay-as-you-play deals after so much shite.
Tony Draper
29 Posted 28/08/2016 at 05:25:44
Rob, maybe we should just "move them on"?

Then replace the emptied squad places with keen to impress, fit and talented graduates of the Academy?

If the graduates make the grade (as Holgate & Davies seemingly are) then they progress; if not, then (like Ledson) they go elsewhere and grab the opportunity to prove themselves.

Just let's not have a complete reserve team of "sicknotes" and "nearly men".

Ernie Baywood
30 Posted 28/08/2016 at 07:12:17
Judging McCarthy on his performances under Martinez's decline is ridiculous. Everyone was terrible in that period. He's a good player and I'd like to see him prove he can return to form.

Unfortunately his biggest problem seems to be fitness.

Colin Glassar
31 Posted 28/08/2016 at 07:54:57
The Newcastle rumours just won't go away. A swap, plus cash deal, for Sissoko sounds like the best outcome for all concerned.
Thomas Surgenor
32 Posted 28/08/2016 at 08:07:36
I think if we loose McCarthy it would be a mistake. His form a few years back was in a fast paced style (in comparison to what followed).

Now we are playing at pace again, I think he could be useful to the team. On the other hand, he is no longer garunteed his place and his wage is too high for a back up player. Might be time to cash in and use the money on a Barry back up. Tom Davies could be our GGana back up.

As an additional note on players and playing style, I was sorta surprised at Kone's cameo yesterday. He looked useful playing at pace and holding things up when required. But, for me, it's too little to late.

Joe Clitherow
33 Posted 28/08/2016 at 09:12:20
Hardly the "decline" of Martinez, Ernie, that's how the guy coached and inevitably how his teams become.

I'm not sure exactly how we should judge McCarthy other than how he performed under Martinez since most of his career has been under him. The problem I think is that he may look a stand out in a slow, lethargic, unfit Martinez side but then looks more exposed when compared to an all action Gana Gueye.

The fact that he has seemingly asked to leave yesterday, three games in, rather than fight for a place, doesn't exactly say much about his attitude either.

See ya, Jimmy, good luck with Celtic and the Belgium passport application; Everton are moving up and if you can't keep up, you are left behind.

Liam Reilly
34 Posted 28/08/2016 at 09:15:50
With no Plan B from the Manager, all confidence was shot.

He's a good player, but whether he can get his spark back at the club is questionable. The side will suffer injuries and loss of form and we'll need a fit James McCarthy.

Ernie Baywood
35 Posted 28/08/2016 at 09:35:18
Joe, that's exactly why I referred to Martinez's decline. I don't think anyone could argue with any credibility that our performances didn't get gradually worse under Martinez.

Season 1 was played with a bit of tempo about it. McCarthy played well. As the possession obsession gained momentum he became less and less effective. He's just not that type of player.

If he can get fit then he'd be a good back up for our centre mids. I'm not convinced his wages cause a problem there – decent players get decent pay. We can't always rely on youngsters. And if he took a move to guarantee first team football he'd almost certainly be looking at moving lower down the established ranks.

Joe Clitherow
36 Posted 28/08/2016 at 09:46:32
Martinez was found out in Season 1, Liam, when leaked goals, some bad drubbings, and RM's total inflexibility started to show what we were in for.

I think Jimmy Mac looked better because he had fitter players doing more closing down and gradually they stopped and he got lumbered with the job of specialist DM thanks to the ridiculous Roberto. When he got a lot more to do, he got exposed.

I don't really think James McCarthy is a bad player, I just think he is very limited and we need and are demanding better right now, and Koeman is either challenging the existing staff to step up to his standards or is replacing them with better.

I think McCarthy knows it too, and that's why he wants to leave.

Ian Hanes
37 Posted 28/08/2016 at 10:07:07
Is it me or does the photo look fake?
The tit on the right looks like he's floating on air.
Tim Wardrop
38 Posted 28/08/2016 at 10:07:16
Some of these comments are ridiculous. McCarthy was arguably our best player in 2013-14, was one of our better players in 2014-15, then was rubbish for the second half of last season... like the rest of the squad!!

He's been struggling with the same injury for about 9 months. Why would we want to get rid? What happens if Gueye gets injured tomorrow? Ridiculous.

Also – our win percentage goes up when he's in the team.

Joe Clitherow
39 Posted 28/08/2016 at 10:26:21
Tim,

So what? Still not good enough being one of the better players in a poor performing team that finished in the bottom half of the league for the past two seasons and if you think we were only rubbish in the second half of last season then I don't know what to say.

Not a bad player? Yes. Good player? No I'm struggling a bit with that. Standards just got lowered and now they are climbing again. Good enough for us going forward? No not at all, and he doesn't apparently want to be a squad player either, which is fair enough.

Jon Withey
40 Posted 28/08/2016 at 10:49:05
I thought he was going for surgery? Doubt anyone will want to buy him if that is the case! Yet Sky are linking him with 3 clubs!

Anyway, in this market surely he's worth £15m at least, probably more like £20m.

Les Martin
41 Posted 28/08/2016 at 11:35:08
Hard working honest player, but he is just not good enough for Everton's new midfield. Runs around but does nothing exceptional, sell him, move onwards and upwards.
Paul Tran
42 Posted 28/08/2016 at 11:43:08
Half decent player who looked for two years like he wasn't sure what he was meant to be doing. Gueye has stepped in and looks twice the player we hoped McCarthy would become.

He's going to be back up at best with us now. I'll be surprised if he's still with us next weekend.

Alex Bennett
43 Posted 28/08/2016 at 11:47:23
A player that divides opinions like this is usually neither a terrible player nor a world beater. He seems a solid Premier League player and plays in the unglamorous midfield role where he is neither a playmaker or goal scorer.

Perhaps if he wasn't mainly making sideways 5 yard passes and looked to get play moving forward more he would be worth keeping. Saying that, though, in my opinion there are other players that need moving on before him.

Paul Conway
44 Posted 28/08/2016 at 11:56:22
McCarthy just seemed to struggle and it showed. He was threading water. He has his limits and unfortunately he is not the calibre of player Everton will need to push on. He can be great on his day, but, alas, those days are few and far between.

The same can be said for 2 or 3 players at the club who have seemed to blag it thus far.

"Wanted for hire: excellent, skillful, physical footballers with a real zest for triumph. Blaggers need not apply!
Apply within."

Oliver Molloy
45 Posted 28/08/2016 at 12:19:49
Lyndon @ 12

Thanks for posting that. I have a very good friend living in Glasgow - massive Celtic fan and knows a right few Celtic FC employees and after speaking with him last night he said that Everton had offered three players to Celtic but McCarthy was not one of them.

I'm sure you guess who we are trying to offload!

Unlike others on here, I could understand perfectly if McCarthy wanted to join Celtic: big fish in little pond – just like Barton – but it would be a loan, they would not have the cash Everton would be looking for.

Stewart Oakes
46 Posted 28/08/2016 at 12:21:00
So a player out injured is spotted in his home town and the stories start.
Paul Conway
47 Posted 28/08/2016 at 13:05:02
There should be someone at the club assigned to liase with the fans regarding transfer rumours, as to whether there is any substance, or not.

For example, this latest hideous rumour regarding Ballotelli among others.

Nick Armitage
48 Posted 28/08/2016 at 16:42:14
Is this the injury which prevents him from kicking a ball forwards?
Denis Richardson
49 Posted 28/08/2016 at 17:56:44
Shame about the timing of the injury as I just don't think JM is good enough to be in the team and this will likely scupper any move. Gana has so far been a revelation and cost nearly half of what we paid for McCarthy, 3 years ago, and does a whole lot more.

Best for JM to move on as his one trick pony football doesn't really fit with RKs tactics. We need more than just passing slowly backwards or sideways. Shame for McCarthy, I wonder what kind of player he would have been had he not had the misfortune to play under Martinez for most of his senior career.

Not sure about a loan move to Celtic given we'd presumably still be paying the vast majority of his wages, a transfer would be better.

Ed Fitzgerald
50 Posted 28/08/2016 at 18:11:29
Andy Crooks at 14

The only thing Walter Smith saved us all from was collective insomnia as Goodison. I derived more entertainment from one thirty minute episode of his fellow Scot Rab C Nesbitt than from Everton's performances under Smiths tenure.

My pre match banter with friends under happy chappy Walters reign was how many defenders and cente halves he could get on to this pitch at any one time. He made his replacement Moyes look carefree in comparison.

Joe Digney
51 Posted 28/08/2016 at 20:23:49
Would be a good squad player for when injuries occur.

I haven't been able to watch the Blues properly so far this season as I am traveling round Europe til October. For anyone that's watched us, is Gana a massive upgrade on McCarthy or are they similar and everyone's just hyping Gana up like we did with McCarthy's first season? From what I've read, every match report so far, he's been outstanding.
Bill Gienapp
53 Posted 28/08/2016 at 23:51:13
McCarthy's certainly worth keeping in the mix, but he needs to recognize the new world order here - he's not as good as Barry and he sure as hell isn't as good as Gueye, so there's simply no place for him in the starting XI. Period. Personally, I'd drop him below Besic in the pecking order as well, but since Mo is sidelined until next year, he's a serviceable third choice at defensive mid - no more, no less.
Ray Jacques
54 Posted 29/08/2016 at 09:41:53
Sell him, not up to the standard we are hoping for this season.
Geoff Williams
55 Posted 29/08/2016 at 10:55:42
I have never understood the hostility shown towards McCarthy, he has his limitations, as do all players, but he is a far better player than many on this site appreciate.
Mike Moore
56 Posted 29/08/2016 at 11:36:30
Am I missing something? McCarthy was great in his first season, with a run now of niggling injuries plus lack of confidence due to dubious management hes got to be given an opportunity to prove again he is still the player we first signed! Plus we are building a squad, I certainly wouldn't be putting him in the "dead wood" category!
Peter Howard
57 Posted 29/08/2016 at 12:11:15
Stephen

I was seen in St.Asaph last Friday but I can assure you I have no intention of signing for them.

Derek Turner
58 Posted 29/08/2016 at 13:04:27
Smith saved Everton (14) like Blair saved Iraq, though Blair had more credibility for getting everyone to believe it for a while.
Eddie Dunn
59 Posted 29/08/2016 at 15:40:31
Macca's game is about harrying and closing down threat. To do this job, you need to be fit so perhaps the drop off in his form has coincided with this recurring injury.
Barry Jones
60 Posted 30/08/2016 at 16:59:25
Joe Clitherow, I concur with all that you said. If Koeman can take Macca's all round game to a higher level, especially offensively, and Macca is willing to stay and fight to do this, then so be it. Otherwise, Celtic beckons.

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