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Fuck me,some long winded statto bullshit pathetic posts tonight.
Utter fucking shite transfer window, and fuck off with the excuses.
Where’s the new players????????

A back up RB is now sorted. We can offload Patterson. Where is the first choice RB?

Not that AI is ever wrong Nick, but those transfer numbers don’t quite stack up, maybe it’s just the way you [or I] am reading them.
My idiots version using Transfermarkt’s estimates is below:

> In 26/27 thus far we’ve spent almost €100M on fees for George, Rohl, Hackney, Norgaard and Johnson, recouping just €26M equivalent for McNeill.
Total loss as it stands of c. €74M

> In 25/26 we brought in Dibling, Barry, KDH, Alcaraz, Aznou and Travers for an estimated €130M, bringing in just €12.6M via Maupay and Chermiti sales
Thus a loss of €117m

> In 24/25 we sold Onana, Dobbin and Godfrey for €84M and spent just €50M on O’brien, NDiaye, Iroegbunam and Lindstrom
So a €33M surplus

> In 23/24 we brought in Beto, Chermiti and Danjuma for €40M, but sold Moise Kean, Iwobi, Gray, Canon, Simms and Nkounkou for €83M
So a €42M surplus

> In 22/23 we got Onana, McNeill, Maupay, Garner and Gueye for around €83M, but sold off Richarlison and Gordon for €103M
A surplus of €20M

> In 21/22 we bought Mykolenko, Patterson and Demarai Gray for almost €40m, sold Digne, Rodriguez, Kean + Bernard [both on loan] for €46M
A surplus of €6.5m

Thus, it depends where you do your sums:
For 5 years from 21/22 to 25/26, our overall transfer loss is a modest €14M
If you go from 22/23 to 26/27, assuming no further moves, we’re on a loss of €96m

But then again these numbers aren’t actually how PL clubs accounts are done, there are tons of extra fees in player sales [agents for instance], player transfers are amortised over time, and the PL rules tie in all other incomes/outgoings as well to these overall limits, so player wages, gates and sponsorships are arguably as if not more important than transfers, as are things like the Burnley case [which is utterly bullshit and scandalous, but that’s another post].

Generally I think we have had quite sizeable net spends in the last 2 years vs frugal windows below, so I would expect we do have to sell to either buy more players or just balance the books.

Chris James, I don’t know what you were trying to achieve with your posts but I’ve got to agree that you just don’t get it.

There is no ‘fair price’ for Armstrong. Attempting to compare him to Curtis Jones is completely missing the point.

If we sell our best young player to a lesser club for a pathetic amount of money in the current market then we have destroyed our own soul. This is an emotional argument, because if that’s who we are as a club, then what is the point of the whole thing?

That the story has even been allowed to develop without a complete shut down from the owners of the club is an appalling piece of ‘management’ that has essentially turned the fan base against them. To sell him would be literally the worst piece of ‘club running’ in the history of football. Even if we don’t now sell him, the owners have massively damaged their reputation and relationship with the fans.

I now want them gone when I generally supported them before.

Even trying to apply logic, selling an asset that will only increase in value for a low price, at the cost of alienating the entire fan base surely can’t make sense on any level.