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If we get a new manager we have 5-6 new players instantly. More if you include moving players to their correct positions.

We didn’t need a big signing in January, we needed players like Patterson, Aznou, Röhl, Alcaraz and Dibling to be utilised effectively within a squad rotation system. This would have made them ready to play a bigger part towards the end as other players tired.

Our squad right now is pretty decent and should have come in that 6-10th bracket. It needs 2-3 quality signings and we have an issue at centre back with Keane and Tarkowski in decline and Branthwaite apparently an ongoing injury risk. A right-back to replace Coleman, replacements (or renewals) for Grealish and George and then upgrades on Barry and McNeil would be it all it really takes.

If we keep Moyes though, we’ve basically got no chance of achieving anything no matter what. He seems to take pride in being stubborn and failing to learn.

Neil @ 3.
Spot on. I totally agree.
Everton us like being expected to build an F1 car from an HGV

Neil, I don’t see any relevance in your ‘equivalency list’, it makes no sense. All you’re saying is ‘changing manager is risky’. Well yeah, we all know that, but keeping Moyes, stagnating, and driving good young players away from the club is a much bigger risk.

Back to the options in the OP, Marco Silva is also available and would be better than Moyes. He made a promising start when he managed us before, I rate his team selection and tactics and he is 9 years more experienced (mostly in the Premier League) than last time.

All potential candidates come with caveats and risks and there’s always the risk that a change won’t work out. You have to ask yourself if the risk is worthwhile given the status quo. My answer is overwhelmingly ‘yes’. If Moyes stays I will be able to muster no excitement, enthusiasm or sense of hope about Everton. It won’t matter who we buy in the summer because Moyes won’t use them. We’ll see promising young players avoid us and the ones we’ve got will leave.

That last seven games of the season, with the same team selection and tactics failing repeatedly but not changing despite having 3 players out of position and talented young players being completely ignored, has to be the end of Moyes or else the entire club is effectively dead and just wants to accept mediocrity for ever as long as some money rolls in.

This is not a case of ‘needing a new striker’. This is a case of needing new ideas.

Off the subject, how many on here are going to the Everton fans meet up on 27 th June, about 3 to 4 hundred turned up last year, there trying to get more this year, it’s great day out

Jack @1 precisely. And seeing as moyes will be punditing at the ever so cheap WC then there is no way any business will get done
World class players could be lining up around the block at finch farm, to sign up for free and the clubs response would be. We’re closed. Go away.

Jim@ 4 – Yes Moyes made us safe, to a point except during the last 8 games where he couldnt grab a point for Toffee.
The end of season collapse was alarming and doesnt bode well.
I don't buy into the players being tired shit. Most played once once a week, no cups no europe. Only a few International players. Their fault, along with Moyes. So there could be no excuses about exhaustion. They ALL failed.
No one with a half decent football brain would come here with that awful, bare bones squad. Plus a shit academy thats been relegated to the lowest tier of the academy league. With no one remotely looking like they might make the grade.
Evertons problem is Everton.
Everyone involved (apart from Everton in the community) are really incompetent / clueless / woeful / not fit for purpose at the job they are employed to do and I include the owner(s).
Still no infrastructure of note in anything football. Backwards in about every department conceivable and have been for over half a century, just getting worse every season.
Kinnear is the worst person to have hrre. At any time. He has openly stated that the manager is here next season and that there is no money so expect nothing.
So Moyes is going nowhere, like Everton, sadly.