ToffeeWeb

Mike #11, can you tell us why all the other managers we had that also didn’t contribute to the trophy cabinet did not have any impact?

Andy @ 10, it’s also become extremely tiresome reading posts about how wonderful Moyes is and how dare anyone criticize him.

He has done a steady job, no more, no less. His handling of Dibling was poor in many peoples opinion.

Last season any criticism of Moyes was excused by many because of the turnover in players, the lack of transfer window time etc. Despite over £115 million bring spent. He needs time to integrate the new players into his squad we were told.

All well and good but it didn’t excuse his lack of squad rotation, poor substitutions etc.

This season, after an admittedly good start, any criticism is deflected away by some due to lack of transfer activity and the small squad he has been left with. Again true.

But that still doesn’t excuse his, so far, poor use of the squad, late and strange substitutions and a complete reluctance to use certain players. Not to mention the safety first tactics.

No complaining from me with regards to the results so far, but some of the performances haven’t been that good. We definitely need to show more against the better sides.

So, whilst Moyes has earned some praise for results so far, it doesn’t mean he isn’t open to some criticism too.

Do you honestly believe Johnson, on recent performances, was more deserving of a place against Ipswich than Dibling? I certainly don’t

You can see the impact Moyes has had in his two stints – just look in the trophy cabinet 🥳

Well said Brain, I totally agree. It’s become tiresome and entirely predictable to read articles on TW infected with the anti Moyes narrative. It’s now reached the stage that anything our team does well isn’t down to something Moyes has decided to do, but is an accidental consequence of something Moyes was forced to do due to an injury, or whatever other excuse the moaners on here come up with.

An example in this article ‘ There has been plenty of criticism directed at Moyes for his handling of Dibling last season, and some of it is definitely fair. ’. Naturally the author doesn’t give an example of the fair criticism. Moyes has handled Dibling well and this season we may just be beginning to see the rewards of Moyes’ man management skills of Dibling, not that recognising and giving due credit for Moyes’s management skills will ever be a TW narrative.

“Maybe it’s just too ingrained in his nature to be anything other than pragmatic and conservative”

Im genuinely sick of this narrative. We’re talking about a manager who gave Rooney his debut at 16. Signed Arteta, Pienarr, Baines, Cahill, Stones, Lescott and so on. Who gave debuts to Osman, Barkely and Coleman. All lovely footballers.

Even this time round he spent big on Dibling – he’s been slow to use him but he signed him for christ sake.

This idea that Moyes is some sort of Dyche or Tony Pulis character is ridiculous. He organises a team well, but he is NOT anti football. He signs lovely footballers.