Premier League — Matchweek 22

Liverpool keystone cops just scored a

Bizarre own goal which bodes well for Monday

Kieran, I actually want the redshite to win today. They are playing Wolves.

Steve

Yeah it's Hobson's choice, maybe they win but get five players sent off?

Oops Steve another keystone cops goal conceded

Wolves 2 up now!

Looks like our stay outside the Bottom 3 will be short-lived?

haha Kieran, I am going to give in and just enjoy their dismal defeat.

Haha ha the other lot 2-0 down after 12 mins..

Coming a Klopper...

Turning out a good weekend!

Klopp in!

Christine,

I get your made up its 2-0 presently for Wolves, but are you aware that result will put us back in the Bottom 3?

Pete Hughes, yeah but I can live with that.. besides with 89 mins left, their deal with the devil and VAR will soon kick in...

Jesus, they are terrible! Roll on next week! I reckon we can turn them over.. Wonder what the odds are for Klopp getting the push? If we show the same level of play as today we can beat them.. seriously..

Brighton scored.

Get the fuck in

Decent results …. Bournemouth and Southampton losing.

Wolves and Leicester were never going to be involved …. Leeds, Forest and West Ham the others.

So I'm saying it's 3 from 6 including us but let's not forget we've just beaten the Premier League leaders.

We need a 4-0 win from the Skunks and we move out of the Bottom 3.

BHA 1-0 in 88th minute

West Ham equalise at skunks can't see this being 5-1 so bottom 3 we stay….. for now.

Just seen this Sun headline:

"Newcastle United's 㿙m signing Anthony Gordon could face jail after being caught driving just two days into a road ban".

Cherry on the cake! Hahahahaha!!!

Pete, yep... another foolish foul.

Gordon now coming on for the Barcodes with a chance to make his first positive contribution for Everton since last August.

Gordon on for his barcodes debut

Struggling to remember the nickname for Klopp - Bongo or something like that because he resembles a cartoon/puppet character.

Wanted to mail my LFC supporting mate.

Phil its Bingo from the Banana splits.

Hope they don't sack him. Don't want them getting a new manager bounce before 13th.

Newcastle seem to be playing him quite deep in a somewhat withdrawn role. Good ball through a few minutes back.

Newcastle haven't won a single league game since Gordon arrived. dark times for the bar codes.

Phil # 21………….Spot the difference………………….

https://twitter.com/simonpoulter/status/706523659373035520

If I were a Leeds fan, I would be starting to feel seriously alarmed. They already call their chap 'Yank Lampard'; I think, once they hit the zone, they ain't coming back up.

Hopefully we can box them, Bournemouth and Southampton into a cube and send it into outer space – just like in Superman II.

Kevin, we are only 6 points off 12th place. It's incredibly tight at the bottom so any of eight teams (including us) can easily go down.

For this reason alone, I'm not going overboard after yesterday's win. We still have a long and torturous road ahead.

Hopefully Man.Utd put a few past them in the next two league games. Huge game by the time they visit Goodison.

Colin
yes I was alarmed myself at how good Bournemouth looked at Brighton, and I don't expect Wolves West Ham or Leicester to be in any real danger. It's definitely going to be a dogfight, and no doubt soton will get another bounce once they get rid of another manager.

Been watching the Italy France Rugby.

Impressed again at the openess, transparency and competence of the officials.

Audible and accountable unlike that one we had yesterday.

More quality this season than last - no whipping boys unlike Watford and Norwich last year who went down with 23/22 points. You are likely to need 38/39 this season. I think it'll be three from five - current bottom four and Palace who'll get sucked in - W Ham, Leicester and Wolves will all be ok. Forest seem to be pulling away but they're nothing special and there's a long way to go.

Spurs fans singing “Grand Old Team”.

When did that start, or is it because we beat Arsenal?

They've sung it for years, Peter. In that Chas 'n' Dave style of theirs.

Didn't it come from Celtic originally, same as YAWN?

Yes Tottenham and Celtic have sung it for decades.

I'd like to see us bin it.

Better than their terrible funeral paced “oh when the spurs go marching in”.

There's me saying earlier City will catch Arsenal, but aren't firing on all cylinders or what we've seen in recent seasons.

I guess this weekend cancels them out.

Time for klopp and Guardiola to move on? Their teams look tired and out of ideas. Time for Dycheball?

Remarkable that City haven't scored at Spurs in five full games.

Danny #35, agreed, I've never liked it.

Peter - agree, can't stand that sung at such a slow pace. It's the song they sing the most and it's abysmal. Don't know why they think it's any good as it's unimaginative and dull.

Colin

Pep has lost the plot. He had Cancel De Bruyne Silva Ruben etc playing brilliantly but this season he's taken to benching them in his weird rotation while mediocre players like Grealish and Ake are ever present. The man is ready for the loony bin.

I think the writing is on the wall Colin.

I saw this with Klopp at Dortmund. I cN see him going to take the German national job or back to Dortmund.

Pep I'm not so sure about. Does he just call it a day?

It will be interesting to watch how it plays out.

Klopp is at the end of his seven year cycle, by which point he has broken his teams through over work and dubious nutrition. Did it at Mainz and then Dortmund. I thought he might get away with at the shite as they have spent more money but he totally fucks the players….which is what we saw after they won the league and this year. It's like off-cycling PEDs. Better the devil you know with those twats though as they'll probably go for Frank.

City were shite there against Spurs. Totally flat. Can't imagain why Pep would leave though.

Pep fell out with the likes of Ibra, E'too, Deco and Ronaldinho etc…. at Barca. Built a brilliant young team, swept all before them then got bored and left. I think he could do the same at city. The way he plays around with players like Cancelo, Foden, Haaland and De Bruyne is criminal

Klopp built a brilliant team at Dortmund but lost his best players and left. Same is happening at Mordor. They've never replaced the likes of Wjinaldum, Mane and Sterling. His team look stale- probably still give us a good hiding though.

If we beat them next week, you will see real toxicity at the other place. They've been rejoicing at a few young and stupid Evertonians, but with pictures of them smashing up seats and then putting them in their coats, at Molinuex yesterday, will definitely keep them quiet for a while. I can imagine the scenes if we can go and beat them next week, and also the fume, when a few seats get smashed at Anfield.

Outraged at everything, but ashamed of nothing, just imagine them if they had to put up with even 20% of the shite, that we have had to put up with over the years?

Nick, their huge egos will mean their heads will eventually explode.

Dennis (34) I first heard it sang in the late 1940's at Anfield and Goodison Park whenever St.Anthony's RC school played in cup finals there, which was quite often in those post war days, I supported their rival parish St. Sylvestors because my mates dad had gone to that school!!

Always outraged never embarrassed Tony. How fucking dare they.

Coach bricking and airbrushing the 39. Condescending shits.

I'm going to need help as even for me I get quite heated on these occasions.

Look after me!!

It's a Grand Old Team sounds like it came straight out of the Victorian music hall scene. It's great for a sing-along but it's hardly rousing is it?

I never understood why we never adopted a Beatles song in the 60's to rival yawn. Any suggestions?

Interesting Colin that 3 clubs, Manchester City, Brentford and I can't think who else now use Hey Jude

Surely, the most appropriate Beatles tune at the mo' would be "Don't Let Me Down"!

Or if you're singing about the Board: "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey"

Dennis, the most appropriate Beatles song at the moment - "Getting Better"

And for our managers it might be "Hello, Goodbye".

One for the whole club ‘ Get Back' (to where you once belonged )
One for a Anthony Gordon “ Baby You Can Drive My Car” (because I'll get sent down if I'm caught again)

I'm with Lennon “#9 dream”

"Help"

I love to Imagine us winning another trophy

Danny # 50………….I'm surprised you haven't remembered the “Self Proclaimed best fans in the world” Geordies who sing the Hey Jude tune to Nah Nah Nah Naaaaaah, Geordies!

More gobshite fans.

We can work it out?

I think we should be very careful about being overly optimistic for next Monday's game, Shearer gave them a bashing last night, Match of the Day 2 just previewed the game, for some strange reason. Wherever we are in the league, regardless of our form, or whatever our line-up, we very rarely get the benefit of the doubt from the officials at their place.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin might not play next Monday, and that leaves a huge hole in our attack. I would have settled for 2 points from yesterday and next Monday, prior to the Arsenal game and we have already taken 3. I'm not saying we can't win there but our away form is abysmal and it will take a massive performance to take something, because the media will spend the next week ramping up the ante for their 'faves'.

Barry

Wasn't it Van Duke of Liverpool who got assaulted by Pickford …. Then one time Everton players tried to get Dirk Kuyt sent off for a very very minimal king fu kick to the head. I wonder if the media and Klopp might possibly bring these things up to pressure the ref, not to mention mean old Sean Dyche daring to beat them when at Burnley.

Honestly I hope we get a legit ref and do nothing silly cause a red card could kill us. There's a fine line between being tough and being reckless and that thin line is non existent when it comes to playing at Anfield.

For all of our overpaid and underperforming players over the past decade it must be "Money" that's all I want

Kieran, if you want to see an assault that is often forgotten, look at the images of that two footer challenge by Gerrard on Naysmith.

If I recall, it went unpunished at the time and he somehow stayed on the pitch but there was retrospective action. That didn't matter, he went in to hurt a player deliberately and got away with it.

Sorry, I'm getting into Derby mode.

Danny, that was the dictionary definition of a cowards tackle. It took a lot of effort from Campbell and Stubbs to keep big Dunc out of the picture.

Having been able to stomach MotD for a change; that Gibbs-White looks a player. Shame we couldn't have got that one over the line.

I finally watched Match of the Day James.

I didn't even know most of the results from the weekend.

I know it's not always accurate watching highlights and this isn't an obvious one, but one thing that struck me was how easily Villa were calved up down the middle. Not from the flanks, just straight down the middle.

Yes Andrew, hope he is ok, it doesn't look good.

James, Gibbs-White doing very well. Thelwell was in for him and Kudus too and wasn't far away landing them both. Very close to signing Kudus until Man auto took Antony and Gibbs-White we couldn't pay for up front by the looks of it. Hope he's got one or two more lined up, I'll be watching to see how his most recent target Sulemana gets on.

When FFP and the Profit and sustainability rules were introduced, one of the key criticisms of both was that it would introduce inequity and bias against clubs without wealthy backers, or those clubs who had already spent hundreds of millions or more on players. It ensured that those clubs were protected because of the huge spends and value of players made prior to enforcement. The inequity grew to unprecedented levels this season, a season where Everton has a wealthy back who cannot spend because of the new regulations and monies to the tune of £600m in one season. Everton handcuffed after spending £500m over 7 years. Of course it's inequitable, there needs to be a cap on value of transfers that puts a value on the ceiling any club can spend, not one rule for one but not the other

It's an interesting one Christine and I'd like your always considered view.

On one hand I despise the money influenced Premier League.

On the other, I don't know an industry that doesn't allow investment for success, although I acknowledge it has to be regulated.

And as Evertonians, the former Mersey Millionaires who bought success in the 1960s, we can hardly be hypocrites. The originals as one of my t-shirts proclaims.

We just got it wrong this time. But we should be allowed to spend. Is it that we have been shackled by the Profit and Sustainability rules or is it that the absent owner and board have given up while we turn up in our thousands to follow what we believe in?

Their behaviour has been totally shocking. It's a good job that about 37,000 roared that team on last weekend because they were nowhere to be seen.

Marsch sacked by Leeds.

Shit!!

That's bad news.

Steve Gerrard and Frank Lampard are available.

Barry @ 74,

It's becoming so demanding for all - managers, coaches, players. No standout worse teams at the bottom this year so in its own way, the lower reaches are more competitive than the top of the table right now.

Three teams will always go down and eventually clubs/owners will have to take a more philosophical view, as with Cooper at Forest recently. You could say Marsch was not doing well but then he wasn't doing excessively badly.

I can understand the bigger club, more money, more expectation thing (which we know all about) but then that has been levelled somewhat in play. No easy answer.

I really hope Leeds don't get Sam Allardyce.

Hopefully Steve Bruce, Tony Adams or John Barnes are in the running. Or better still, Stevie Me.

Mike, I'd recommend Pardew.

Wouldn't be surprised if Bielsa ends up back there.

Brentford to beat Arsenal, us to beat Liverpool. 50-1 for the double on Skybet!

Bloody hell, Mike, when I first read that I thought it said we'd beat Liverpool 50-1. Would help the goal difference though!

Jay 86, very unlikely. They've burnt their bridges with him.

Mike at 82, I hope they don't get Big Sam either. I was hoping they were gonna stick with him until at least we play them again, as West Ham slowly picking up points and Forest with their 70-man squad keep picking up slender wins.

Paddy Power have Carlos Corberan as the clear 5/4 fav for the Leeds job.
Pochettino, Bielsa and Postecoglou also head the early betting.

I think SA is waiting for the RS job.

The whole thing is likely a ploy anyway to award a few extra league titles to the shite. Wouldn't fucking surprise me.

I think the years mentioned don't really stack up for Liverpool, Nick, or maybe I'm just assuming this because they're very, very, very, very fucking quiet right now?

Always the victims, as this tweet from Anfield Edition, exemplifies.

We've lost 3 Premier League titles due to cheating and corruption.

That's so hard to take.

I think we could claim being denied a few titles and maybe another European trophy due to violence and the impact it had on the then English Champions by them, Barry.

But we'd get called bitter.

I can't wait to face that lot.

As Rob always says, I'd rather have our history than live with theirs.

I'll refrain from the next comment I was about to make as I want to stay civil.

Look after me next week.

Everyone, as I said yesterday, we now have God on our side, who is about to exorcise the devil from our soul. Lucifer's child's era is coming to an end and the Blue Boys will be on the rise!

I see Leeds have pressed the sack button now. Jesse Marsch has gone. Who will be next, I wonder? The guy at Bournemouth or Moyes.

How do you know you would have won the European Cup?

It's what they say, Danny, as they slowly try and airbrush Heysel out of their history.

Jack, my money's on Nathan Jones at Southampton.

Our board got in early by appointing Sean Dyche as you can bet your life Leeds would be talking to him today.

We won the title in 1939! If they moan about missing titles!
Anyway, it was obviously the Italians fault for throwing poles at themselves that caused it.

Danny (73) and James (76) good posts. Were never going to get it, because the Premier League wants to keep the so-called Big 6 at the top and everyone else can fight for the minor European cups and leagues at one end and to stay in the league at the other.

I would like somebody to investigate the number of reported asthmatics at our neighbours and their dramatic crash in energy levels, this season and during Covid.

I always suspected they're on something and have to take a year off every few seasons. Might just be an internet conspiracy but it definitely fits.

My little boy has got asthma and you can really tell during the winter months, Craig W.

I find it almost impossible to believe that Klopp could recruit so many asthmatics, and make them the fittest team in the country? Incredible achievement if this is actually fact, but something I genuinely find hard to believe.

Liverpool's asthma numbers isn't just an internet conspiracy. They have something like ten times the national average of registered asthma sufferers.

They're a bunch of cheating horrible bastards.

“Back in 2020, a report on the Backpage Football website claimed that a source at the club had confirmed that 22 of Liverpool's 35-strong first-team squad are asthmatic. This equates to 63% of the squad allegedly having asthma.

However, there has been no definitive proof that the above is true. Yet at no point has there ever been reports to suggest that the above is incorrect. If the report is true, then when you compare this to the UK average of 12%, it clearly does seem something isn't quite right.”

It was an academic who wrote the article and was talking about Salbutamol that can be prescribed for athsma. It supposedly relaxes the airways and increases stamina and performance. Chris Froome was reported to have used it in the Tour de France.

To be fair, asthma is common amongst athletes, apparently.

Someone was telling me this the other day Dennis, but they were also alluding to something about asthma being very hard to detect.

If you say you've got certain symptoms, then you will be prescribed certain drugs, and there's nothing much to prove if a person actually really needs to be given these performance enhancers. They might be wrong?

That sounds exceedingly likely, Tony.

Dennis "tbf, asthma is common amongst athletes, apparently."

Yes, but I still think they're onto a good wheeze.

Craig @ 114 - it's a 3 year cycle - 2 years on and 1 year off. If they don't take the 3rd year off it can cause long term damage. Allegedly.

Nathan Jones, will be gone ‘fore long…

Yes Mark, he packed his bags as I recall
and walked slowly down the hall .

Simon Hooper is the ref for the RS game with John Brooks the VAR.

Let's hope the TV and the VAR equipment is checked and all cameras are tested and checked for full pitch coverage before kick-off, in view of their FA Cup game with Wolves, and the Wolves goal that was disallowed.

Same again please, Everton, as vs Arsenal.

UTFTs!

Can any one tell me how did the Wolves v Liverpool game get over 15mins of added time? Just curious.

Mike and Joe (73 and 79) I really hope they do get Allardyce. They will be totally stuffed if they do. He's a washed up fraud.

Big Dave Unsworth is having a awfull time at Oldham, they are losing again and back in relegation zone. I go to Oldham with work, locals are worried big time. The locals who actually support them and not the usual suspects in red.