Season › 2022-23 › General Forum Premier League — Matchweek 35 By Michael Kenrick 06/05/2023 Share: Another massive weekend in the Premier League with a full slate of 10 games scheduled across 3 days with 6 being shown on TV in the UK: Saturday 6 May 2023 15:00 Manchester City v Leeds Utd – on Sky Sports 17:30 Liverpool v Brentford – on Sky Sports Sunday 7 May 2023 16:30 Newcastle Utd v Arsenal – on Sky Sports 19:00 West Ham Utd v Manchester Utd – on BT Sport 1 Monday 8 May 2023 17:30 Brighton & Hove Albion v Everton – on BT Sport 1 20:00 Nottingham Forest v Southampton – on Sky Sports The other four games not being shown are, on Saturday: 15:00 Bournemouth v Chelsea15:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace15:00 Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa And on Monday: 15:00 Fulham v Leicester City Reader Comments (223) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Michael Kenrick 1 Posted 05/05/2023 at 21:04:41 Wot? No Blackout??? Seems there is a one-off exception to the rule this weekend, with a game that was originally set for Sky Super Sunday but moved back to Saturday in view of Man City's Champions League fixtures, but with the 12:30 timeslot unavailable as that would clash with the Coronation of King Charles III.And there was I thinking this ridiculous anachronistic blackout was now dead... no chance! Dale Self 2 Posted 05/05/2023 at 21:53:00 Weird but even with the odd kickoff time it is listed to be shown here in the States. Christine Foster 3 Posted 05/05/2023 at 21:56:34 Darn another 4am start.. Michael Kenrick 4 Posted 05/05/2023 at 22:03:42 Dale, I thought every Premier League game is shown live in the USA, irrespective of kick-off time? Paul Ferry 5 Posted 06/05/2023 at 03:39:19 You're right, Michael, they are, for $4.95 each month. Don't know what Dale is going on about, but that's nearly always the case. In good news, record TV deal for EFL clubs, although it kicks off in 2024. Bill Gall 6 Posted 06/05/2023 at 04:23:04 Michael, Every premier game is shown in Canada, we will be 4hrs behind the actual kick-off – for 3pm, I will watch it at 11 am. DAZN had it for the 3 previous seasons and it was purchased by FUBO in the USA for the next 3 seasons. If the worst thing possible happened and we were relegated, I will cancel FUBO and go back to DAZN who show the English Championship League. Michael Kenrick 7 Posted 06/05/2023 at 09:18:13 Thanks, Paul @5,Hopefully that new 𨁟M 5-year deal that Sky have negotiated with the EFL will be of only passing interest to us! It doesn't kick-in until Season 2024-25 but the detail is described by The Echo, with quotes from EFL CEO Trevor Birch, once briefly of this parish: EFL clubs vote through new TV deal worth 𨁟 million to end 3pm blackout uncertaintySpoiler alert: They actually retain the Saturday 3 pm blackout. Ernie Baywood 8 Posted 06/05/2023 at 14:23:54 Free hit for the fat lad today. Lose and it's obviously not his fault, take anything and he's a genius.And either way he makes about half a million for three weeks' work.He's nowhere near as stupid as he looks.I'll be watching though. I don't usually watch anyone but Everton, though I've made a few exceptions for our rivals lately. But you can't deny the guy has an aura about him. The arrogance, the conviction in his ability, the unashamed anti football, the fact he does actually get results at the rubbish end of the table... he's box office if nothing else. Pat Byrne 9 Posted 06/05/2023 at 14:39:03 Am I right to assume that we would all take getting to the last day against Bournemouth with our destiny in our own hands. Ian Jones 10 Posted 06/05/2023 at 14:45:21 Robles starts for Leeds. Didn't realise he'd signed for Leeds. Good luck to him vs Man City today. Nothing against him, but hope he concedes at least 6. 😀 Dale Self 11 Posted 06/05/2023 at 14:45:35 Michael 4, they do but I'm deep in the woods and for some reason the wireless signal is weak and cannot produce a decent stream. James Flynn 12 Posted 06/05/2023 at 14:49:03 Wow, Robles.If he's the same lamppost he was for us, City could roll up the score. Dale Self 13 Posted 06/05/2023 at 14:52:18 No Aaronsn no Rodrigo. Just pummel them so when we get a point we jump above on differential. Ernie Baywood 14 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:04:01 Not that I'd wish injury on anyone, but I hope once City go 5 up the Leeds players manage to put a few players out for the next couple of weeks. Grant Rorrison 15 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:11:45 Chelsea beating Bournemouth. Brent Stephens 16 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:14:16 Wolves ahead. Pete Hughes 17 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:14:58 Wolves one up. Bill Gall 18 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:17:33 See Leeds playing 4-4-1-1. Dale Self 19 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:19:21 Let the flood of goals begin. Ernie Baywood 20 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:19:31 Goal city. That's the one we needed Tony Everan 21 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:21:21 The first of three of four hopefully, what is it about 85% possession? and a good chance every few minutes. Will Mabon 22 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:22:05 Frank whoopin' Sam's ass... Ernie Baywood 23 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:22:43 Love how the media keep going on about Haaland needing 12 goals to level Dixie's record of 63 goals in a top flight season. No, he needs 25 in 4. There'd be no comparison when Haaland is playing in all sorts of cups. Will Mabon 24 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:23:47 Ernie - it's 65. Will Mabon 25 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:25:04 OK, whoopin' it slightly less now. Ernie Baywood 26 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:25:27 They exclude the charity shield just because Haaland didn't score in it! Tony Everan 27 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:26:05 Haaland! Couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. Will Mabon 28 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:26:12 Ernie, wouldn't surprise. Dale Self 29 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:27:28 Uh huh. Keep going. Bill Gall 30 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:27:39 So hard to defend against City, no-one holds on to the ball, it is just control and pass… and they go 2-up. Pete Hughes 31 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:27:48 2 now city Brent Stephens 32 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:29:13 "Sacked in the morning", Man City fans singing to Sam. Tony Everan 33 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:30:57 Has a manager ever been sacked at half-time in his first game? Simon Dalzell 35 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:31:06 Tony (27). I think you mean 'Cow's Arse'. Brent Stephens 36 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:32:34 I think he meant 'Barn Door'. Dale Self 37 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:33:14 Leeds can't do this. After seasons with Bielsa and Marsch it has receded in their footbal DNA. Brent Stephens 38 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:33:46 Mixing his meatphors… Will Mabon 39 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:33:52 Lucky Sam took over, could've been 4 by now. Tony Everan 40 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:34:00 Either, any farm-related item, the big Galoot should have scored. Brent Stephens 41 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:37:05 If this were a night game, they'd turn the floodlights off in the City half to save electricity. Grant Rorrison 42 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:40:47 Fat boy not making much of a difference. He would have needed to park his gravy boat (not the bus) if he wanted a clean sheet today. Dale Self 44 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:43:04 And the reality set in Tony McNulty 45 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:48:03 For his sake, I really hope Pep is learning the managerial lessons on display from the opposition bench Dale Self 46 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:48:37 Well you know Foden and Haaland want on the scoresheet. Tony Everan 47 Posted 06/05/2023 at 15:59:36 Could easily come down to goal difference between us and Leeds, it's so tight. Another two or three goals for Man City will be very welcome this half. Kieran Kinsella 50 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:11:10 Sacking Frank has transformed the season's dynamic. Now half the teams that were neck and neck with us are level on points with Chelsea. Paul Kossoff 53 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:19:37 Kiaran, Can you imagine if we get relegated and the football is so bad the camara catches grown men in the stands playing slap hands and rock paper scissors, an embarrassment we will never recover from. Dale Self 55 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:24:47 Leeds fans will not respect that Harrison substitution. Stephen Graham 56 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:31:00 Just read this assessment from Andy Hunter. Doesn't leave a good feeling of our prospects: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/06/everton-sean-dyche-relegation-analysis Kieran Kinsella 57 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:32:38 StephenThis paragraph jumped out"Conor Coady and James Tarkowski were the central defensive partnership in Dyche's first four games in charge. Everton kept two clean sheets and conceded four goals. Since Michael Keane was introduced at the expense of Coady, however, Everton have kept two clean sheets in 10 games and conceded 20 goals, an average of two per game." Phil Wood 58 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:35:06 Bloody City sleepwalking the 2nd half against Leeds Kevin Molloy 59 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:37:32 That's a pretty dispiriting score from Wolves. I thought they had thrown in the towel pretty much, but no, on their way to beating Villa. Just what we need. Brent Stephens 60 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:38:40 Kevin, I think Wolves were "uncatchable" before today's game. Least of our worries. Dale Self 61 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:39:43 Leeds definitely look rejuvenated losing by less than 5 Kieran Kinsella 63 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:40:49 BrentI think he is inferring he hoped Wolves would be in beach mode when we play them Brent Stephens 64 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:44:18 Ah, of course, Kieran. Sorry, Kevin. Phil Wood 65 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:45:06 Hope City get stuffed in Europe now. Prats. Kieran Kinsella 66 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:45:24 Here we go, Sam working his magic! Ray Roche 67 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:46:42 City pissing about again. Just taking things too easy. Pricks. Bill Gall 68 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:47:18 City miss a penalty chance and Leeds score Will Mabon 69 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:47:59 Paul, keep 'em coming.Got any about the destruction of farms, re-wilding of land, the WEF and the realities of what Reset Charlie is really all about? Frank Crewe 70 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:49:07 Leeds pulled one back because City went into the their arrogant "gods gift to football" mode. So instead of being 3-0 up they are hanging onto a 2-1. Total lack of professionalism just to give Gundawan a hatrick. Will Mabon 71 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:49:28 Sam delivering a better quality of defeat.Meanwhile, Frank finds the fire. Phil Wood 72 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:50:49 Yes it is our own fault we are were we are in the league but I reckon you will see a different Leeds for the last few games.This result could nail us now.You won't see this City at Goodison. Dale Self 73 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:52:52 Ooh Pep is pissed. Not even a look for Gundogan. Nice try Phil. John Raftery 74 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:53:42 There's much to be said for hanging on in there even when the opposition are outclassing you. Defend, defend, defend and wait for a chance to break out. It's what Sam Allardyce's teams often do. Tony Everan 75 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:53:42 We can definitely get something off Man City at Goodison if we take our chances, especially if they are resting a few in between the CL games. Was hoping for 4 or 5-0 here and ended up sweating Leeds didn't get an unlikely equaliser from a late corner or something. Will Mabon 76 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:53:48 Phil,we need the days of Tom Davies back to his dominant best to lead us to another 4-0. Andy Crooks 77 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:54:11 What a difference City's showboating might make. Gutted with that. Bill Gall 78 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:55:39 Pep looked pretty upset over Haarland not taking the penalty John Atkins 79 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:56:53 Thank fuck for that … could have quite easily been a draw there. Still a defeat for Leeds, we just need a win away (just one please !!!!) and beat Bournemouth and I think we'll be ok Dale Self 80 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:56:54 Oh fuck. The team talk on City's pitch. Dude's a frraud. There's no one below him. No one. Danny Baily 81 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:57:37 As soon as I heard they were messing about with the penalty taker I was worried. 2-0 would have given us the edge on goal difference. As confidence boosting as a defeat can be for Leeds. Bill Gall 82 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:58:42 No Sammy Lee with Fat Sam Barry Hesketh 83 Posted 06/05/2023 at 16:58:48 That was such a horrible second half in so many ways, City didn't look to put Leeds to the sword and unfortunately Pep won't accept two bad performances in a row, plus the Leeds goal difference only suffered a dent rather than a massive hole. We have to get something at Brighton, preferably a streaky last minute win. Martin Mason 84 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:04:47 I could say that it was a massive benefit for Everton to be playing City between their 2 games against Real but they made 7 changes for today's game. Maybe they can rest their best 11 and still be a league ahead of us. 95% of today's game they were imperious but then showed a human frailty. Do we have hope? Will Mabon 85 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:06:52 Barry,I just hope Dyche doesn't go with the donkey-think notion that "knowing" the defenders might bestow some kind of advantage upon using Maupay.We need to win the game. Allan Board 86 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:08:30 Dyche will play the mommy's boy Keane on Monday- its a dad /son thing with them two.Look at the stats Dyche since you dropped Coady. Keane is a clown of a defender and upsets any solidity for any defence- remember he had the cheek to question Southgate dumping him from Ingerland the nugget. Doomed if that twat keeps playing. If Coady had been playing the last 10 games - Everton would be on about 34/35 points now. Phil Wood 87 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:08:37 Martin 84 of course we still have hope but I think Leeds will get points now and that is one less Team for us to overtake.AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! Will Mabon 88 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:09:53 Martin,whoever the players, I doubt that foot-off-the-gas approach will happen again. Will Mabon 89 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:13:08 Phil, I guess that means both Forest and Leicester then. We aren't catching anyone else. Grant Rorrison 90 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:22:18 Er, Leeds still got beat you know. I don't know why everyone is writing off catching them. They got nothing today despite City going easy on them and getting complacent. I'll start worrying if they win a game. Which they wont as they don't have the ability or the mental strength. Steve Brown 91 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:27:14 That was a 2-1 battering. City had 81% possession and 18 shots. Next up for Leeds?Newcastle.Don't believe the Allardyce spin. Will Mabon 92 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:29:06 Grant, we may still catch/pass any of the 3 - but no-one else realistically.My previous post assumed Phil's scenario. Grant Rorrison 93 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:31:48 Will 92. Well obviously we wont be catching anyone above those 3. I am talking about people thinking Leeds will pick up points now and feeling everything is rosy for them after today. Allan Board 94 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:34:52 Everton need to go above 2 teams to stay up. Grant Rorrison 95 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:38:38 Biggest result for us now (besides our own) is Southampton preferably beating, or at least getting something, against Forest. Will Mabon 96 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:40:34 Grant, I know and agree.I'm not one of those that thinks Leeds are revitalized, to clarify. Will Mabon 97 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:42:10 Have to hope Saints still "believe"... John Daley 98 Posted 06/05/2023 at 17:49:42 “No Sammy Lee with Fat Samâ€I heard Sammy Lee's far too busy. He's already been flown out by HBO to begin filming his role as a Bloater in Season 2 of the Last of Us and he still gets shitloads of work filling in as a stunt-double for Gary Busey. Shane Corcoran 99 Posted 06/05/2023 at 18:00:39 Henderson singing GSTQ as his fans boo was quite entertaining. I didn't realise the Norwegians disliked the Windsors. Tony Everan 100 Posted 06/05/2023 at 18:09:17 How did Fabinho escape a booking there? A cynical foul but in front of the Kop. John Raftery 103 Posted 06/05/2023 at 18:21:44 John (98), I read yesterday Sammy Lee is on jury service and the judge wouldn't release him. John Daley 107 Posted 06/05/2023 at 18:45:06 Kieran @57,Sounds depressingly familiar to me.“Dyche may have (bizarrely) declared “I thought Michael Keane was excellent tonight†following the Newcastle drubbing but, for me, he's been as flaky as ever and a deterioration in the teams defensive displays has duly followed.With Keane in the side we've conceded 18 goals in 9 games. The four games prior, when Coady partnered Tarkowski, we conceded 4. Clearly, going from conceding an average of 1 goal per game to 2 goals per game cannot be blamed solely on the reintegration of Michael Keane, but nor can it be written off as mere coincidence.â€LinkGod knows what the City game is going to do to that ‘average'. Dale Self 108 Posted 06/05/2023 at 18:50:30 Doucoure getting red would be my choice if I felt as you do. We were in form and it was after that when all other things went shit. There was enough in the Leicester City performance to get some sustained improvement. Who knows if we will get some luck with that. Danny O’Neill 113 Posted 06/05/2023 at 19:24:15 Allan @94, win on Monday and we can potentially go above 3 teams as well as potentially being within 2 points of West Ham.We are not toast yet.On Liverpool and the National Anthem, it's what they do and always have done. The irony being a large percentage of them at the match will shortly be travelling back to Surrey and Devon.Says me, a London based Evertonian. Danny O’Neill 117 Posted 06/05/2023 at 19:55:21 Brent, I've been hyperventilating at recent matches despite my inevitable confidence going into them.I find myself looking at the floor more often. If you can't see it!! Steve Shave 118 Posted 06/05/2023 at 20:13:19 God, I hope Allardyce chokes, horrible shit.Even if we go down, I hope we bring them with us. Ed Prytherch 119 Posted 06/05/2023 at 21:08:29 I heard that Sammy Lee could not reunite with Sam because he is on Jury duty. Tony Everan 120 Posted 06/05/2023 at 21:22:41 Yet another full game and win for Jarrad Branthwaite today for PSV. Seven wins in a row for them now, including the Dutch Cup win last weekend. He has also helped them to very likely securing a Champions League place, as they look nailed on now to finish 2nd – ahead of Ajax. Gerry Quinn 121 Posted 07/05/2023 at 07:19:24 Do any Evertonians boo the National Anthem? I am a bit confused as they keep saying the "people" of Liverpool have this thing against the Government of the ''70s and '80s... Eddie Dunn 122 Posted 07/05/2023 at 08:03:02 Gerry -on the subject of booing the anthem, I wonder if it is partly because so many Liverpool fans seem to think that they have an affinity with Ireland (Catholic Republican) or generally are anti-anything that represents the Establishment?The monarchy are figureheads, so I suppose they could be equated with the government. However, governments change and we did have a Labour government for 13 years from 1997-to 2010.I suspect that it is a case of virtue-signalling. I did notice that my nearest football stadium, Swansea, were heard singing "You can stick your Coronation up your arse". The Welsh have been quite luke-warm on the celebrations, just an excuse to have a day in the boozer in my village. I was mixing concrete all day but I did have the radio on.I wonder about the glory-hunting types of fan, who live all over the place but attach themselves to a notable team.Do these people think that they can follow Liverpool, for example, because they are socialist in some way? With a greater percentage of people from Merseyside going to Goodison Park compared to Anfield, does it necessarily follow that Everton have more left-wing voters than Liverpool? Is it the colours of the club that relate to politics? I think that our neighbours have simply become so vainglorious that they have to have opinions on everything. Their manager has often mentioned his political outlook. I just think that Evertonians are more respectful. Gerry Quinn 123 Posted 07/05/2023 at 08:06:41 Thanks, Eddie - here in Scotland it has been relatively quiet in my town - no street parties, very few flags, but appreciating the holiday time! Danny O’Neill 124 Posted 07/05/2023 at 08:29:03 We never used to boo the national anthem.I remember the odd heckler at the minute's silence for the Queen Mum, which led to inevitable outbreaks of others telling them to shut up.Lots of chanting of "Fuck the Tories" at away matches, particularly in London.We will see. More concerned with the result. Ian Jones 126 Posted 07/05/2023 at 09:37:43 I looked up the position if teams finish on the same points and goal difference. Seems goals scored is the determining factor. We are way behind Leicester and Leeds. So we better win some of our games Eddie Dunn 127 Posted 07/05/2023 at 09:49:37 Gerry,Here in West Wales, the Union flag is treated with a certain amount of resentment, as Wales has no representation on it. I noted that the numbers in Cardiff were quite poor, but it was fairly drizzly out in East Wales.Welsh flags fly all the time and especially during Rugby events, or now, even football tournaments. A mate (a farmer) has put up a huge Cross of St George on a flag pole in one of his fields on a couple of occasions. He just couldn't understand why someone would shin up the pole and burn it! Alan McGuffog 128 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:12:31 Eddie, you have a point but there is no sectarianism in football in Liverpool. The same percentage of people with Catholic Irish heritage follow Everton. Why don't we behave like they do? I think it stems from the love in that lot have developed with Celtic and this totally naff "Scouse not English" bollocks! All encouraged by the professional scousers in the media. David Baxter 129 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:20:04 Dixie Dean's record will never truly be broken. When Dixie played, there was only the league and the FA Cup to play for. No European games, no League Cup. From November through to early March, penalty areas were a total mud heap, the ball was leather and soaked up the rain, it had a lace in it which could leave an imprint on the forehead, and weighed probably 5 times as much as today's plastic balls. Sometimes, the ball was not even fully round. For me, he will always hold the record. Danny O’Neill 130 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:28:26 Interesting you say that Eddie. I spent 4 years in Pembrokeshire and they flew the Union Flag alongside the Welsh one in many establishments.I an increasingly seeing St George's Cross as a London / South East thing. Might just be me. It seems a recently re-established thing. Look back at the footage of the 1966 World Cup Final.Agree Alan, no religious divide between the two clubs as like in Glasgow.Why they behave like they do confuses me. As we say, same city, different breed. Phil Wood 131 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:38:28 Alan 128 totally agree.I hate the idea that the whole country thinks everyone in this City hates the idea of being English.I for one don't and find it toe curling when a large section of fans give the opposite impression.However I don't take oaths to other human beings apart from my family to help and protect them. I do respect the part that some of the Monarchy play (not an extended part) and respect the National Anthem.Yes I am English and proud to be English the same as Welshmen, Irishmen and Scotsmen are proud to be from their Nations and quite right too. Chris Leyland 132 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:43:12 I'm no monarchist and I find it hard to reconcile spending vast sums of public money on yesterday's grotesque spectacle of wealth when we have kids starving and record numbers of food banks but… the ironic thing is that the shite are very epitome of the establishment in terms of English football, a money-making monolith that has infiltrated and polluted every single media outlets to gain favourable coverage and subsequent on-pitch advantage at every turn, a set of fans, the vast majority of whom have no prior connection or affinity to the city of Liverpool, who have somehow convinced themselves that they are the anti-establishment club and that they are ‘scouse not English' when in fact a sizeable proportion of them are actually neither scouse nor English. Now there's nothing wrong with not being scouse or English per se, but as you travel back to the comfort of the Home Counties or on your plane back to Oslo, after your day trip to Anfield where you've spend 𧶲 for your ticket and another 𧶀 on tat in the club shop, sang the words to the songs from the sheets that are handed out with the words on, stop pretending that you are anything other than a customer that has been suckered in and conned by the brand. Alan McGuffog 133 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:51:31 Chris...is that true about the song sheets across the park ? I thought it was an urban myth. Anthony Murphy 134 Posted 07/05/2023 at 10:52:18 Data shows the majority of match goers at Anfield don't have a Merseyside postcode - so not arsed in the slightest what anyone thinks in relation to the city and it's relationship with the monarchy Dave Abrahams 135 Posted 07/05/2023 at 11:11:43 The majority of Liverpool fans that I know couldn't possibly boo the national anthem or boo the king at Anfield because they never go there, although they all say they used to go there many years ago. Allen Rodgers 136 Posted 07/05/2023 at 11:22:36 Probably a bit late with this comment but I hadn't realised til l yesterday, Joel Robles once of this parish, played for Leeds. He looked decent v.City but I hope he has a couple of howlers left in him ! Dale Self 137 Posted 07/05/2023 at 16:34:42 Damn. I'm finding myself not capable of liking Arsenal. Thought I could get behind them like the alternative they were in the Wenger days. However, even with Arteta something about them bothers me more than Newcastle right now. Ahh, maybe some kind of ‘keep the Shite out of CL' is the angle. Confusing because I have always disliked Newcastle even before Ashley. Dale Self 138 Posted 07/05/2023 at 16:41:08 That was a shit no call by Cavanaugh Dale Self 139 Posted 07/05/2023 at 16:45:38 0-1 Arse. Odegaard from outside the D. Joe McMahon 140 Posted 07/05/2023 at 17:00:21 Looks like Gordon is gonna be an expensive flop version of Chris Wood for Newcastle, just a shame they can waste millions and get away with it as the Media fawns over Eddie Howe. Dale Self 141 Posted 07/05/2023 at 17:23:21 Pope saved 3 sure goals to keep Newcastle in it. Some tempers flaring. Worth a watch. Bill Gall 142 Posted 07/05/2023 at 17:37:30 Poor. A. Shearer going nuts with the studio ref over the penalty claim. I thought it was a good call by VAR hit the players top of his leg and he was pulling his arm away. Tony Everan 143 Posted 07/05/2023 at 17:42:02 Bill, it's strange, Shearer's reaction. To me it looked like it clearly ricocheted of the players thigh onto his arm. Even if it had hit the defender's arm first he had it next to his body and was trying to get it out of the way. It would have been very harsh. Dale Self 144 Posted 07/05/2023 at 17:54:31 I missed the thigh deflection, thanks. Cavanaugh is still shit though. I thought his leaning and arm away from the body would have been incriminating without the deflection. Tony Everan 145 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:16:00 Result should keep Newcastle on their toes next week against Leeds. Soren Moyer 146 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:20:21 Anthony Gordon lol. Never a 40m player. Bill Gall 147 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:20:51 Wanted Newcastle to win to keep Arsenal more points behind City when they play us / but it is nice to see the miserable faces on the loosers Tony Everan 148 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:29:19 Handbags time. Oooh don't push me you bitch! Colin Glassar 149 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:32:45 Good to see the Saudis lose. They must be the dirtiest team in the prem right now. Dave Abrahams 150 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:35:48 Tony (145), that's the way I was looking at the result,with Newcastle still needing points to stay in the top four and keeping those three points out of Leeds hands. Jack Convery 151 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:39:03 How ordinary did the Arsenal make the barcodes look in the 2nd half? Still it means they have to be on it when they play Leeds.Time for the Blues to produce the surprise result of the weekend tomorrow v Brighton. COYBs. Mike Doyle 152 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:41:15 Dave #135,Do any of Liverpool's match-going fans actually live in the city these days? I recall a news article from a few years ago reporting that only around 5,000 of their season ticket holders had ‘L' postcodes compared with about 25,000 of Everton's.I wonder if that number has fallen further? Tony Everan 153 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:47:15 Dave, yes, keeps them honest now, even though they are behind Arsenal technically, they have the power and a few goals in them to beat Leeds. Biggest worry after today is that one of their dirty bastards, Burns, Batman, Joelinton etc will get sent off. They won't get the same soft touch as the ref gave them today at home. Paul Hewitt 154 Posted 07/05/2023 at 18:51:26 Just watched the National League playoffs. Two fantastic games. Better than anything the Premier League can offer. Dave Abrahams 155 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:01:32 Mike (152), I know a few genuine fellas who go to the game and a few who have passed away who went, plenty who just couldn't afford to go once Sky came in and the prices of tickets went right up, a couple who physically couldn't get to the game but we're not allowed to pass their season tickets on to their grandsons at the time of renewal. The pubs though were full of red-shirted fans(?) of all ages cheering their(?) team on. One of my mates used to say to me “There's not many Everton fans in the pubs when Everton play and they are on TV†I said “I know – they are at Goodison Park watching the game live.†I said to another armchair supporter that he should be entitled to a Wembley Cup Final ticket because he hadn't missed a Liverpool game on TV for the last 20 years. I think he agreed with me… never got the irony of my remark. He wore a Liverpool shirt watching the game but only in the house, he knew he would have got plenty of stick if he ever wore it in the pub!! Raymond Fox 156 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:10:33 On booing the National Anthem, I'm indifferent on the Royalty, but I thought "You bunch of dickheads." The rest of the country watching will be saying "There you go, it's them scouse gits again!" Joe McMahon 157 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:11:26 Dave@155, I went to Conway and Llandudno last week with Mrs M, and there is one thing for the Wrexham/LA- Hollywood takeover, it was good to see plenty of kids in Wrexham shirts. I said to my other half, "12 months ago, it would have been a sea of kids advertising Standard Chartered." I always thought it crass when you saw babies and toddlers with Carlsberg splashed in their fronts. At least the Blues has some class as Chang wasn't on any junior kits. Danny O’Neill 158 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:27:41 Dave Abrahams, I have it two-fold. Having to mix with London based "lifelong" reds who have never been to Liverpool let alone Lucifer's Playground. That coming from a London based Evertonian.Then my self inflicted pain of going to the Arkles after my trips to Goodison and listening to the self gratifying praise from people who probably never venture too far from that place to watch their supposed club. As well as it being an attraction for away supporters.I could get myself into trouble, but I can hold my own.I will steal Rob Halligan's phrase. Despite what has happened or might happen, I would rather live with our history than have theirs.Brighton tomorrow. We can be out of the bottom 3 and have control in our own hands again. Kevin Naylor 159 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:30:07 United getting beat cue RS top 4. Colin Glassar 160 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:30:12 Raymond, I remember going to the pictures in town, when I was a kid, and you had to stand up for the national anthem when it was played. If your parents didn't give you a smack, for not standing, then some complete stranger would.How times have changed. Soren Moyer 161 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:40:42 Paul, 154,I watched the Notts C. one and it was incredible. Kevin Naylor 162 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:42:04 This season feels like its going to end the worst ever, hope I'm wrong. John Keating 163 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:42:58 Mike @152,I was out recently with my mates of 60-odd years, half are RS. They followed the RS home and away including all their European games since the '60s. None of them, not one, have been a game for a few seasons! Just can't get ticketsRemember years ago tickets were really a one-off, you just went the match and squashed in. Totally different now of course. Unfortunately, my mates are all now TV supporters. Soren Moyer 164 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:43:31 We need a Man Utd win so West Ham Utd would still be on 34 when facing Leeds! Joe McMahon 165 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:49:04 Kevin, yup like you say you know who gonna sneak 4th CL spot, after many pens to assist along the way. The season just gets better, still we have had all our good times. Bill Piscass 166 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:51:52 Most blatant handball WHU Soren Moyer 167 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:52:09 De Gea = Dr Jekyll and Mr Shite! Kevin Naylor 168 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:52:27 Yes, Joe, they've had the usual help on the way for sure. To be honest, the reality has struck that we'll never be great again in my lifetime (I'm 63) but at least I have seen the good times which a lot of us haven't. Barry Hesketh 169 Posted 07/05/2023 at 19:56:21 Oh well if we get relegated and the RS miss out on CL it'll have all been worth it? I don't give a flying one, whether they sing the national anthem, whether they travel half the world to visit for home games or whether they sit in the pub wearing replica kits, or indeed where they finish in the league I dislike them with a passion but not as much as I care about what happens to Everton. That's the only thing that occupies my mind at the minute, everything else is irrelevant. United are poor today, playing like a team that is expecting another change of manager? Jim Bennings 170 Posted 07/05/2023 at 20:17:47 United are basically what Liverpool were in the mid-1990s.Living off the name that was a decade earlier. Julian Exshaw 171 Posted 07/05/2023 at 20:24:14 I reckon in 24 hours we'll pretty much know our fate with 3 vital games tomorrow. A win here puts West Ham safe which means it's then 3 out of 5. Yikes! Jim Bennings 172 Posted 07/05/2023 at 20:25:26 It dawns on me really that we could effectively be all but relegated by this time next week if results go against us.We could quite expectedly lose to Brighton and Man City while you wouldn't be shocked to see Forest win one and Leicester also. Kevin Naylor 173 Posted 07/05/2023 at 20:28:43 Yes, Jim, I agree, if we don't win tomorrow, I can't see the other results all going our way again. Paul Tran 174 Posted 07/05/2023 at 20:29:04 Three out of five regardless. West Ham won't be going down. James Newcombe 175 Posted 07/05/2023 at 20:45:25 West Ham were always in a false position, presumably because of the European football Shane Corcoran 176 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:01:23 That is a seriously bad result. Not only are they all but safe but they'll have their feet up against Leeds and Sam will smell blood. Disaster. Bill Piscass 177 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:02:22 They play Leicester last game away as well. Dave Abrahams 178 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:05:39 West Ham deserved to win, they outfought and outplayed Man Utd with Rice running the midfield and United's three central midfielders very disappointing with the Brazilian the most ineffective of the three but staying on.Only in the last 10 minutes did they look like sneaking a draw but even then West Ham looked dangerous on the break. Chris Leyland 179 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:09:06 Jesus, just switched on the tv and the coronation concert is on. They are playing the devil's song. They infest everything. Bill Piscass 180 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:09:57 Positives are Leicester play Liverpool at home. John Atkins 181 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:10:23 You can look at it both ways - Moyes will not want to lose to Fat Sam and West Ham were always in a false position, they'll be playing with more confidence now too, still fancy the Hammers to win. I was always more worried about Newcastle at Leeds but that Arsenal result is good, Newcastle have to get a result now. I fancy us away at Wolves, my Wolves fan mate says they will be on the beach now. Shane Corcoran 182 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:13:27 John, why would Moyes give two shites about beating Allardyce's team?And even if he did, the eleven on the pitch won't. Bill Piscass 183 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:16:24 West Ham have a chance to finish 3 places higher,; ١ million pounds. They will care. Barry Hesketh 184 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:17:11 Thirty-six Premier League fixtures to play and half of those will directly affect which teams may be relegated this season. Of course it's up to Everton to try and win as many points as possible, starting tomorrow. I don't remember it being so intense last season for so long, nor in the previous campaigns where we have struggled to stay up. Perhaps that's just a lapse of memory on my part, or maybe a recognition that this is the most vulnerable we have been to losing our place in the top-flight, during my time of watching. Shane Corcoran 185 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:19:17 Bill, why would players on fixed contracts care about the club getting £3m extra?They've had a very long, hard season. They'll be mathematically safe (probably) when they play Leeds. Bill Piscass 186 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:19:49 https://youtu.be/UTGq8YERH5EIf you want to go back in time then there is this. I remembered, closest we ever came to regulation. Barry Hesketh 187 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:21:12 Chris @179Just a dress rehearsal for next weekend's Eurovision song contest. I'd be amazed if there isn't at least one rendition of the dirge being sung by everybody involved. Besides which, it's an unwritten rule that whatever the occasion, whomever it involves, the dark side have to be front and centre of any cultural event that happens anywhere in the world. John Atkins 188 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:27:45 Shane,For fuck's sake, try and look for the positives… players and teams don't want to lose; sometimes they play better when there's less at stake, they can be more relaxed and express themselves. Players' values are based on their data and stats; just because you're desperate doesn't mean you'll have more desire and determination. Barry Hesketh 189 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:29:01 Bill @186,I don't believe that any of us who were around at the time could forget that day, as it happens today being the 29th anniversary of it. Even during the closing stages of that season, we always seemed to have a 'belief' that we would somehow survive; a little less so in 1998, and last season we seemed to get the results at the most opportune times, apart from the wobble at Burnley and away to Watford. This season, at least so far, we haven't felt as if we would automatically escape, and being so bad for two seasons on the bounce is a pretty rare occurrence even for Everton, which is perhaps why that confidence to escape is more brittle than on previous occasions. Gary Brown 190 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:33:58 And then there were 5. Ray Roche 191 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:35:50 Chris @179,I hope everyone was booing! Shane Corcoran 192 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:38:16 John this isn't a forum on wellness. I'm assessing West Ham's likely motivation levels when they come to play Leeds and I think they'll be low. And I'd forgotten that they're still in Europe when I gave my view. Gary Brown 193 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:38:29 Not sure I buy the “They'll have feet up†stuff personally. The other angle is they are a group of good footballers in a false position because of Europe. They may relax and just play. Bill Piscass 194 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:40:37 Barry @189, Good spot Anniversary. Maybe an omen for tomorrow! John Atkins 195 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:48:27 Shane, being an Evertonian has no resemblance to wellness. Following this team brings me nothing but distress, anxiety and depression. I suppose, to quote Gary's words, I also don't buy this "They'll have their feet up" bollocks that may have applied years ago but not in today's footie. Kevin Naylor 196 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:53:09 If I recall, didn't Gianluca Vialli's Chelsea have nothing to play for when they beat Bolton that kept us up? Joe McMahon 197 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:55:42 Kevin, correct but Gianluca was a different kind of professional than most footballers these days. Such a shame he passed away so young also. Barry Hesketh 198 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:56:46 The guys who administer Evertonresults.com have managed to link some footage of various clips of games, for those who enjoy some nostalgia, this is for you. Everton video highlights Kevin Naylor 199 Posted 07/05/2023 at 21:57:58 Yes Joe top man and sadly missed. Brendan McLaughlin 200 Posted 07/05/2023 at 22:46:45 John #195,Couldn't disagree more – this club, this site make me feel younger by the day and by some distance. UTFT! Eric Myles 201 Posted 08/05/2023 at 01:20:35 Colin #160, it's still like that in Thailand. Eric Myles 202 Posted 08/05/2023 at 01:34:10 David #129, Dixie will always hold the record 'cos he scored 60 goals in the First Division and Haaland is 25 goals behind with 4 games to play!If the Sky generation want to count goals scored in competitions that didn't exist in Dixie's time then they are not comparing apples.And if they want to call it "in all competitions" then count ALL competitions and Dixie has 75 including international games in that season and the Charity Shield and FA Cup. Ian Jones 203 Posted 08/05/2023 at 06:47:31 Barry, great link to the video highlights. What struck me from the list is the number of games that were televised that we've lost! Brian Denton 204 Posted 08/05/2023 at 08:22:22 Barry Hesketh, I was up till 2am watching those links! A lot of memories activated from my childhood, especially seeing for the first time the footage from the Panathinaikos game in Greece, which I actually attended with my dad. A great adventure for a kid, although with the wrong outcome. Story of [most of] my Everton life. Dave Abrahams 205 Posted 08/05/2023 at 14:08:54 Barry (198) Great viewing Barry if a bit heavy on the eyes, I was at a few of those games and was interested in the game at Charlton 1955 because it was that game along with another one that were the first highlights of games shown on the BBC on a Saturday night.I also wanted to see the end of that game because I had ran onto the pitch, they never showed it, to ask Sam Bartram, the Charlton ‘keeper, for the dollar ( 25p) he owed me, I had gone into his sports shop earlier that day and had a bet with him that Everton would win, when I asked him for my money he told me to fuck off, lovely talking like that to an adorable young Scouse boy like me!There's plenty more games I will have a look at, thanks very much Barry. Brent Stephens 206 Posted 08/05/2023 at 14:24:37 Dave #205 "I had ran onto the pitch, they never showed it, to ask Sam Bartram, the Charlton ‘keeper, for the dollar ( 25p) he owed me2.So you were a tight wad even as a kid, Dave! Dave Abrahams 207 Posted 08/05/2023 at 14:47:29 Brent (206), No Brent I was only an apprentice tight wad at that age, but fair's fair if Everton had lost, and we were near the bottom of the league, I would have paid Sam, he was the tight wad on this occasion. James Hughes 208 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:13:55 Fulham 1 up get in there Willan Dale Self 209 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:14:02 Well well well. A little luck. Fulham 1-0 on a ridiculous free-kick from 35-40 yards out. James Marshall 210 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:14:41 Good start from Fulham this, they're all over Leicester Jeff Armstrong 211 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:15:59 Goalie mom against us, then does that. Brent Stephens 212 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:20:17 2-0 James Marshall 213 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:21:05 2-0!! Chris Leyland 215 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:22:51 Come on Fulham - just need another 11 goals here Colin Glassar 216 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:29:11 C'mon you Cottagers. A few more will do. Colin Glassar 217 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:32:46 Fulham trying coast it with an hour still to go. James Marshall 218 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:43:30 All these teams at the bottom are so shit, 1 win might be enough from the last 4 games. Steve Brown 219 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:44:22 Leicester's last 3 games - Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A), WHU (H). Brent Stephens 220 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:46:51 3-0 James Marshall 221 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:47:17 Leicester are shite. They aren't offering much resistance here James Hughes 222 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:47:32 3-0 to Fulham James Marshall 223 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:49:14 Well that should do the trick Brent Stephens 224 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:50:52 What greater motivation do you now have, Everton? Joe McMahon 225 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:52:11 James very true but we have taken 1 point off them this season. Story of Everton that! Shane Corcoran 226 Posted 08/05/2023 at 15:54:24 Agree James but I fear the Leeds bounce. Tony McNulty 227 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:02:44 Shane, The "Leeds bounce" is their manager's stomach. Brent Stephens 228 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:09:44 4!! Robert Tressell 229 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:10:29 Thank you, Marco Silva! Will Mabon 230 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:13:26 Thank God Brighton aren't as dangerous as Fulham. Chris Leyland 231 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:15:21 Marco doing is a favour. Need Frank to do us a favour next week against Forest and then Moyes to do us a double favour against Leeds and Leicester. Oh, and Artea to also do us a favour against Forest too. And boyhood Evertonian Eddie Howe to do us a double favour against Leeds and Leicester too. Once a blue, always a blue. Kieran Kinsella 232 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:20:15 Leicester could tie this 4-4 Will Mabon 233 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:24:25 Kieran... coming true? Shane Corcoran 234 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:27:11 They just missed another pen Will Mabon 235 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:30:02 Those damned water bottles. Bill Gall 236 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:41:10 5/2 Fulham easing up Kieran Kinsella 237 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:43:36 Leicester could yet tie it 5-5 Shane Corcoran 238 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:46:37 They could win, Kieran, but they won't. Brent Stephens 239 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:47:52 5-3 Brent Stephens 240 Posted 08/05/2023 at 16:48:41 Give me a sedate 1-0 win at Brighton after this. Jeff Armstrong 241 Posted 08/05/2023 at 19:54:44 Well, Brent, it certainly wasn't sedate!Now come on Southampton. Michael Kenrick 242 Posted 08/05/2023 at 20:25:19 Awonyni's finish... just brilliant.This game might be almost as much fun as ours! Simon Dalzell 243 Posted 08/05/2023 at 20:27:14 Saints back in it after being 2 down against the run of play. Dale Self 244 Posted 09/05/2023 at 20:00:13 I've been looking forward to this tie. Now I can watch it and fully engage it without tripping out aboit Everton Cmon City! Dale Self 245 Posted 09/05/2023 at 20:18:09 Rodri with the first decent shot. Almost a header in the box after a corner Looks like each manager's strategy plays into the other's. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. 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