Inchy’s men take the plaudits in romp over disappointing Everton

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Minnesota United 4 - 0 Everton

1980s Everton team-mates Adrian Heath and Graeme Sharp at the supporters' event in Mall of America last night

Everton's pre-season preparations continued in St Paul, Minnesota with a game against Adrian Heath's Minnesota United that ended with a heavy defeat for Frank Lampard's side.

The Blues were left searching for their first goal of the summer and still looking well short of readiness for the new season as the manager continues to assess his playing squad, including the clutch of youngsters vying for opportunities at first-team level.

He started with a strong XI but the fact that Minnesota are in the middle of their season was clearly evident and the hosts ran out comfortable winners.

A lively contest yielded an early chance for Everton via a deflected Gordon ball that flashed across goal and Iwobi just couldn't convert at the back post.

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Gray had a shot comfortably saved in the seventh minute while a dangerous corner at the other end by Reynoso was batted down by Pickford and cleared but Minnesota kept it and Pickford had to pull off an excellent save to deny Boxall from Rosales's cross.

Amarilla skied a 20-yarder off a poorly cleared corner and mistake from Keane then let Hwlongane in but a terrific covering tackle by Tarkowski forced him back and the resulting shot was fumbled behind by Pickford.

Everton came forward again and Gordon ballooned an effort well over but on the next attack Calvert-Lewin really should have scored but he had too much time to think and shot straight at the keeper.

The hosts took the lead not long past the quarter-hour mark when Reynoso sold Mykolenko a dummy, his cross hit Davies's arm and the referee awarded Minnesota a penalty that Reynoso comfortably despatched.

Reynoso was forced off a couple of minutes later after picking up a knock in a tussle with Tarkowski and a period of uneventful to and fro followed until another defensive lapse led to the second goal.

An awkward ball across the box from the hosts' left by Lawrence was met by Keane's out-stretched leg and it squirmed past the wrong-footed Pickford and into the net.

Gray fizzed a shot inches over Sinclair's bar as the “pinks” tried to respond but things got worse 10 minutes from half-time when a well-worked move found Taylor on the overlap on the right and though Pickford got a glove to the shot, it fell straight to Amarilla in front of goal and he just had to knock it home from close range.

Lampard made a number of changes at half-time with Crellin, Mina, Godfrey, Holgate, Nkounkou, Warrington, Gbamin, Dele, and Rondon coming on but Gray, one of the few to stay on, should have scored with the first action of the second half but couldn't get good purchase on the ball.

Gordon won a corner which was cleared and Warrington had to put it behind at the other end, forcing a corner that Jackson planted onto the crossbar with a thumping header.

Dele almost teed Rondon up but the Venezuelan could only get a toe on the ball and it dribbled wide.

Gordon then had a great chance in front of goal but his shot was deflected wide before more changes saw Price, Mills and Dobbin introduced.

And after Jackson had seen an effort deflect narrowly wide for Minnesota, Everton should have scored the first goal of their preseason campaign when terrific work by Mills ended with a ball across the face of goal to Dele who could not miss from a yard out and yet somehow contrived to do so.

It was 4-0 with 13 minutes to go when Everton were undone once again by the sharper, quicker home team, with Benitez popping up in space on the right side of the box and rifling the ball across the center where it ricocheted in off the knee of Abu Danladi.

Everton: Pickford (46' Crellin), Patterson (46' Godfrey [Y:87']), Tarkowski (46' Holgate), Keane (46' Mina), Mykolenko (46' Nkounkou), Davies (46' Gbamin), Doucouré (46' Dele Alli), Iwobi (46' Warrington (71' Price)), Gordon (64' Dobbin), Gray (64' Mills), Calvert-Lewin (46' Rondon)

Everton head further west to St Paul, Minnesota tonight for the second and final pre-season friendly of their 2022 USA Tour, against MLS team Minnesota United. The game had been billed as one of the biggest games in the MLS outfit's history as it's the first time the relatively young club has faced a Premier League side.

It had strong connections for manager Adrian Heath, who was handed the Everton North American All Star Award at an event for supporters at the Mall of America last night. Voted for by North American-based supporters, the award commends the contributions of players, coaches and managers that have represented the club and have a connection with, or hail from, the continent.

"I think I appreciate [my time with Everton] more now. Because when you are caught up in it you just think it will continue and that is what it will always be like. You soon realise it's not," he said upong receiving the honour. "To be able to get this award it is very, very special. But I never take for granted what we did. I'm incredibly proud of what we did.

"I said to [my players] this a perfect opportunity for you to see what a Premier League player looks like and what it is like to play against them, so the players are really excited.

"There is a big sense of occasion really because Everton will be the biggest club to have come to our new stadium. For the guys, this will be the biggest game maybe they ever play. So we are looking forward to it.

"It looks like we are going to get a full house so everybody is really excited, me included. The fact the club is coming out here, and the fans, and Sharpy who is here, is huge. Everybody at our club is really excited for what the future holds.

"I'm really pleased Everton have decided to come again because when you look at the likes of Tim Howard, Landon Donovon and Brian McBride we have got a history of American players. So if they keep coming back here, I know the fanbase will grow.

"There is a huge football fanbase in America now, and it is growing. Every Premier League game is on the TV so I see more Everton games now than when I was back home. I'm really excited about the game against Everton and just really, really pleased the fans will be seeing all the players who are coming here and gracing our new stadium."

Minnesota United's home ground, the Allianz Field, opened in 2019, holds 19,400 spectators and the club itself has been in existence for just 7 years when they became the 23rd franchise in the MLS.

For Everton, the usual expectations for pre-season have only been strengthened on the back of a poor showing against Arsenal in Baltimore. Frank Lampard will be without the services of Andros Townsend, and Seamus Coleman, who are both in recovery from injuries, while Asmir Begovic and Allan also missed the Arsenal match and remain doubtful.

The game kicks off at 7 pm CDT which is 1 am BST Thursday morning in the UK. It will be shown live in the US on ESPN+ and streamed live by Bally Sports North. Coverage starts at 6:30 pm CDT. Everton Members outside the US and Canada can stream it live via the Official club website.


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Kieran Kinsella
1 Posted 20/07/2022 at
I just read the small print for tickets in the home end at Minneapolis and no away shirts allowed so I guess I'll be wearing civvies for the game.

Mike Gaynes
2 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Kieran, there's no way they will make you take your shirt off.

Let me know what colors you and Jonathan will be wearing so I can pick you out of the crowd shots on TV.

Kieran Kinsella
3 Posted 20/07/2022 at

Look for probably the tallest person in the Minneapolis safe standing home end, strawberry blond hair looking awkward as a bunch of locals bang drums every time Gomes gives away a needless free kick.

ps: Neil Copeland is over from England to meet us two so at least three ToffeeWebers.

Jonathan Oppenheimer
4 Posted 20/07/2022 at
We’ll make sure to keep Kieran safe if the gentle Minnesota hipsters in the supporters section give him grief. You’ll find me, Mike, wearing the home jersey from 2 years ago, but I’ll stand out because my 4 and 6 year-olds will be in full kits beside me. I’m also a short little Jew, Mike, so you’ll just be able to naturally pick me out as one of the Tribe.
Mike Gaynes
5 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Got it, Kieran. Tall, blonde, awkward. Basically an older Jarrad Branthwaite.

Got it, Jonathan. Vertically challenged, and davening whenever we're defending a set piece.

Dave Williams
6 Posted 20/07/2022 at

Any chance you can have a go at producing a match report or at least your views on how each player performed?

That would be great for those of us who won't stream the match?

Will Mabon
7 Posted 20/07/2022 at
In theory, should be a large and easy win... but for who??
Paul Jones
8 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Inchy needs socks. Unless he's got a pair of the new pink ones on and I just can't tell.

Nothing else matters.

Paul Kossoff
9 Posted 20/07/2022 at

We will either batter them or get beaten.

No certainties with this current squad of under-achievers. Adrian Heath will obviously want to beat his former team. I've watched Minnesota quite a lot through free sports channel. (Now thanks to our beloved government the channel is no longer available, thanks Boris.)

Hopefully we will see a structured display of Lampard actually showing us his tactical skills, and giving us some ideas of how we will set up this season. Coyb.

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Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Will, Minnesota is a pretty good team -- 10th best out of 28 teams in MLS -- and they're at midseason fitness.
Jack Convery
11 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Great to see Inchy and Sharpe back together again. For me the best front 2 I have ever seen together. I know other combinations scored more but for pure joy to the eyes these two had it in spades. If not for that knee injury Inchy would have been a household name in the 80s.

As for the game - 4 nil at least. I won't say who for, as that will jinx it.

Will Mabon
12 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Paul K & Mike,

had a quick peep at things, and I agree. Oh well, if we do suffer one, then using the beauty of the pre-season friendly game concept, we can put it down to experimentation...

Paul J - nice topical observation. Did you notice any blue tyre-type marks?

Neil Copeland
13 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Really looking forward to the game and meeting a few US based toffees.

Hopefully we get a better idea of what to expect for the new season. The result doesn’t matter as much as how the team sets up and knits together.

Will Mabon
14 Posted 20/07/2022 at
"The result doesn’t matter as much as how the team sets up and knits together."

That's the spirit, Neil - get the excuses in early...

Neil Copeland
15 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Will #14, trying to stay one step ahead mate!
Mike Gaynes
16 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Will #12, be careful about that peeping.
Neil Copeland
17 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Mike #16, absolutely, wouldn’t like see Will getting locked up
Kate Forbes
18 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Technically, when Minnesota United was still in the lower-levels of US soccer, they hosted Bournemouth (who was in the PL at the time).

That's less a quibble with Michael's post as it is a chance to show the most horrifying own goal in MNUFC history, which happened during that friendly:

Blame it on the Jelly

Kieran Kinsella
19 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Dave Williams

Yes I will do.

Gary Jones
20 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Hope Frank jibs the daft 5 at the back, and goes with an attacking 4-3-3 with pace.

Patterson Tarkowski Welch Mykolenko
Doucoure Iwobi Nkounkou
Dobbin Calvert-Lewin Gordon

Neil Copeland
21 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Kieran and Jonathan, sounds like you two will be easy to find. I will have a Dixie Dean retro shirt on and black shorts
Derek Knox
22 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Neil, hope you enjoy the game tonight with fellow Blues, have never met Kieran or Jonathan in person but have spoken to Kieran on the phone.

Let's hope we can put on an exhibition and gives us some hope in what has been a very disappointing Transfer Window to date. Glad we got James Tarkowski, but we definitely need a few more to even tread water.

Enjoy! 💙💙💙

Brent Stephens
23 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Enjoy the game, Neil. A great pre-season tournament.
Neil Copeland
24 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Cheers Derek will do!

Jonathan and Kieran, also, I have grey going on white hair and currently doing a half decent impression of an over ripe tomato.

Will Mabon
25 Posted 20/07/2022 at
So will we be seeing a ToffeeWeb banner in the crowd? Or will someone scream it loudly in a quiet moment?
Will Mabon
26 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Mike/Neil - all my peeping nowadays is legal, I'm safe.
Neil Copeland
27 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Will # 25, I'll try and scream as loud as I can – "Up the fucking ToffeeWebbers!"

Neil Copeland
28 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Brent #23, cheers will do
Will Mabon
29 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Neil, great, do it! Go for somewhere around mid first half when there's a lull, I'll be listening for ya...
Brian Wilkinson
30 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Starting 11 for me:

Patterson, Tarkowski, Keane, Mykolenko
Gray, Warrington, Doucouré, Gordon
Calvert-Lewin, Mills played as the Number10, just behind the striker.

Toss of a coin: Iwobi or Warrington...

See how that starting 11 fares.

Will Mabon
31 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Brian, wouldn't mind seeing more of the younger guys from the off. Bound to be a kaleidoscope though, who knows what's coming.

ps: You left out Rondon.

Derek Knox
32 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Sounds good to me, Brian, but have a feeling he wants rotation of all squad members, some haven't had a sniff yet!
Brian Wilkinson
33 Posted 20/07/2022 at
I got Rondon down for left back, Will.

Left back in the hotel.

Jonathan Oppenheimer
34 Posted 20/07/2022 at
The party has officially started here in Minnesota. Over 100 supporters drinking beers 4 hours ahead of the match. Great to see Toffees and a sea of blue from around the world. Should be a beautiful night for football. I'll scream "ToffeeWeb" every 10 minutes and no doubt you'll hear me over the 17,000 strong.
Danny O’Neill
35 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Enjoy the match, Neil, Jonathan, Kieran and anyone else at the match.

Let's convert a load more US football fans to unbelievable emotion that is Everton Football Club.

Good luck, US blue boys and girls. I want to hear Spirit of the Blues!!!

Brian Wilkinson
36 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Yes plenty we can rotate with Derek, I would look to my starting 11 to try and start off strong, with those that impressed the second half coming in, that for me is a more balanced 11 than the one we started with last week.

Then use the squad second half, giving some who have not had a game a chance.

Try to start off, on the front foot, give the likes of Warrington and Mills a start, a mixture of youth and regular first teamers.

Sam Hoare
37 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Starting XI I'd like to see is:

Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Iwobi Warrington Doucoure
Alli Calvert-Lewin Gordon

Alli not a winger of course but give him some license to roam around and find pockets of space.

Will Mabon
38 Posted 20/07/2022 at
Brian - then you'll be disappointed when he comes on in the 75th minute...

Jonathan - with you and Neil both going at it, I'm now expecting to hear it on the coverage. Get those lungs ready.

I read up a little on the stadium. It's a great design, looks good in and out, stands close to the pitch, beer zone etc. It looks bigger than the 19,000-odd quoted capacity though. Was surprised it was built that way, being brand new and with the sport seemingly growing well.

Andy Finigan
39 Posted 20/07/2022 at
That side to start looks promising, Sam.
Brian Wilkinson
40 Posted 20/07/2022 at
4/6 on Everton to win, 19/10 minus a goal for anyone wanting a punt.
Brian Murray
41 Posted 20/07/2022 at
We really need to find out if Dobbin can step up, especially if we have no-one lined up, as Rondon needs a club sorted pronto.
Dan Parker
42 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It's a strange one, Brian, a bunch of youngsters stepped up against Arsenal but he wasn't involved in the mix. I would have thought post-Richarlison a front two of Calvert-Lewin and Dobbin would be a promising partnership.
Brian Murray
43 Posted 21/07/2022 at

I just need putting out of my misery over Dobbin and need to know if he's the real deal or could be. I don't think Frank rates him although we don't see what he trains like.

Surely the best of the rest? Forget another loan – play him or sell him.

Brian Murray
44 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Mike Gaynes @16.

The young couple opposite mine recently made a sex tape. Obviously they don't know that yet…

Frank McGregor
45 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Really looking forward to listening to the game tonight at 10:00 pm local time. I would have really loved to have gone to both games as I live close to the Michigan border in Trudeau's Communist Canada.

Unfortunately I am a Political prisoner in my own home – cannot get on a bus, train or airplane due to the mandates. Only recently the commissars relented and will now allow me on a bus.

The reason for my house arrest being due to medical reasons I cannot have injections due to my medical condition I have had since 1960.

I am 83 years of age and very rarely go to a doctor even through the covid situation.

I do have a legitimate exemption signed by a Doctor in London Ontario however the Commissars will not accept it.

I now know how the Hungarian refugees felt when I lived in England in 1956. The Ukrainians can get out of Ukraine but I cannot leave Communist Canada.

Izzy Selwyn
46 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Hi all. Long time follower of ToffeeWeb, probably more than a decade, but when I tried setting up an account years ago, was unsuccessful.

Jonathan, I am also a member of the tribe, lived in New York for the past 25 years or so, from London originally. Unfortunately was unable to travel to Minnesota for the game due to prior commitments.

The first Everton game I watched was a 3-1 pasting of Man Utd in 86-87. The scorers? Sharp, Sheedy and a magnificent diving header from Inchy!! That game made me an Everton fan and I have never looked back. Best choice I ever made.

It's been a hell of a ride. Looking forward to giving Frank time to build.

Kieran Kinsella
47 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Fuck me – pink shirts and God Save the Queen? Is this Everton.

Had a great time beforehand at Jonathan Oppenheimer's and met his lovely family along with Neil Copeland. Top Evertonians.

his stadium is like a miniature Bramley-Moore Dock. Alright, let's show these Minnesotans – some of whom around me are wearing RS shirts.

Kieran Kinsella
48 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Fucking Keane!
Mike Corcoran
49 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Late night comedy. Christ, looking weak as kittens.
Neil Copeland
50 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Brian @44, post of the year!
Ed Prytherch
51 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Michael Keane has picked up from where he left off last season. Calvert-Lewin and Tom Davies very poor, Gordon not much better. A good opportunity for the young players to impress in the second half.
Tom Bowers
52 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Is the transfer window still open because we need to get shut of some of this dross.

Can't score against a weak MLS side so how will we score against the Premier League teams ???

Brian Murray
53 Posted 21/07/2022 at
No-one daft enough to put bids for Davies, Keane, Rondon, Nkounkou, holgate, etc. This is our squad. Asking a lot of the kids but at least one or both of Mills or Warrington. Doucouré can't pass to save his life.

Is Blackpool on Sunday a dress rehearsal for the real thing? Scary 9 months ahead... get your arse in gear, Thelwell.

Andrew Keatley
54 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Brian (44) - I preferred it when Gary Delaney said it.
Ed Prytherch
55 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Nkounkou managed to be worse than Keane. Mina and Dele Alli got stuck in and Godfrey was oaky... but not much else to feel good about.

The young players were not as impressive as against Arsenal. Blackpool must be fancying their chances against us on Sunday.

Gavin Johnson
56 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Friendly or not, that was embarrassing! We look defunct of any creativity and don't look like we can buy a goal. We need to sign a couple of players and bring in a loan asap.

The only saving grace is that Minnesota are midway through their season so they're fitter, but it's not much mitigation. We need creative players who can score and a holding midfielder. As a No.6, Gbamin looked a lot better than Davies, but we can't put our trust in him with his injury record.

Mark Andrews
57 Posted 21/07/2022 at
How much trouble are we in?

Narrowly avoided the drop and now we've weakened the squad and don't have much money to strengthen. Lampard dipped into the squad to find it is bare. We need some smart signings and soon, as Minnesota made us look like FA Cup 4th Round minnows.

The players lost their heads at the end, I guess in frustration of just how poor we are. This is shaping up to be a painful season. We're in the mire.

Bill Watson
58 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Tom #52

Can't score? We never even looked like scoring, I don't recall a single shot on target.

We must have the worst midfield in the Premier League. They can't even get the basics right. They're incapable of stringing more than a couple of passes together, don't supply the forwards, and constantly put the defence under pressure by, so easily, giving the ball up.

After these two games, I'm seriously worried about this season. We're dreadful,

Jamie Crowley
59 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Crap. Like unadulterated crap. Feel terrible for the fine folks who made the trip.

Only positives: Tarkowski, Gbamin, Mills.

God, that was atrocious.

In America: Everton 0, Opposition 6. 🤮

Will Mabon
60 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I think what shocked and surprised me most, Bill, was the widespread return of the nervousness and lack of belief. A weak mentality seems to pervade the whole team.
Darryl Ritchie
61 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Minnesota is wondering what all the fuss was about...

Premier League? Big whoop!

Kieran Kinsella
62 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Positives: Neil Copeland and Jonathan Oppenheimer are top blokes.

Negatives: Everton FC.

In more detail: Keane was awful, Tarkowski tried to talk him through the game but he was way too close to his ex-Burnley mate and left a huge hole for Mykolenko.

Gray never looks around for a pass. Calvert-Lewin has the worst touch since Harvey Weinstein.

Pickford seemed overly amped-up. Doucoure and Iwobi were looking about trying things but no-one else was on the page.

Patterson tried to be creative but lacked precision. Nkounkou can't defend. Crellin did Okay. Mills and Warrington mostly looked solid. Rondon never got the ball. Gbamin couldn't stay on his feet.

It was never a 4-0 more like a sloppy 2-0 but, as Boris would say, "Them's the breaks!"

Will Mabon
63 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Darryl, I bet. That was about as poor an advertisement as you could get, a real tail-between-the-legs outcome. Those players had their asses handed to them. We could've lost by the same score and looked much better.

Most of the players looked as if they're leaving the club in the morning, totally without drive. I'm struggling to understand it, honestly.

Bill Gall
64 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I said it on the Live Forum, once again Everton players and coaches have let down their loyal supporters. It may be just a pre-season friendly but there should still be pride pulling on an Everton shirt and not be shown up by an MLS team.

This does not give a lot of hope for the future: two games, no goals, 6 against, and poor performances from the usual culprits.

I don't take the attitude of they are not yet fit – the team they will be playing in just over 2 weeks will be a lot more difficult than what they have faced.

Lampard had better have an idea who his team is going to be and play them against Blackpool, and let those that sit on the bench know they'd better liven up if played. Otherwise, they will have sore arses sitting there.

Will Mabon
65 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Kieran, I guess you stayed out of jail then, that's a result.
Michael Williams
66 Posted 21/07/2022 at
FWIW an American perspective.

Minnesota is 4-0-1 in their last five games. They are fourth in the Western Conference. Imagine dividing the Premier League into to two leagues of 10 and playing the fourth place team in the other group of 10.

All the talk about the MLS being a "retirement league" is so wrong. Yes, some teams will still overpay for the big old European names but overall the league is committed to playing younger talented and technical players – especially Latin Americans. This is the current and future of MLS. Think of it as a burgeoning Bundesliga where younger good players get a chance to develop. Just way, way, way behind.

As for Everton. We are terribly untalented. It will take a miracle to make the whole greater than the sum of our parts. Based on the last words we heard, Frank is going to do that by making our team fitter and fight harder.

Avoiding relegation will be our success this season and hopefully another year will allow us to get out FFP jail.

Meanwhile Bayern just beat DC United (MLS) 6-2.

Neil Copeland
67 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Kieran, great to meet another top bloke! I think you have summed it up well, very disappointing against spirited opponents. Really not sure what Frank has learned from this tour other than we need at least 3 new recruits.

Jonathan Oppenheimer, it was great to meet you and your lovely family, thank you so much for your hospitality. Hopefully you will get to Goodison soon.

Ed Prytherch
68 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Ellis Simms must be piss poor in training if he cannot get a few minutes in this team. This crew could not score a goal in a month of Sundays.

We could have a decent defence with Tarkowski and Mina (if he stays fit) and Mykolenko with Holgate, Patterson or Coleman at right-back.

I thought that Iwobi and Dele Alli played well except for Dele's miss, and with Allan we could have a useful midfield.

But where are the goals going to come from?

Stan Michaels
69 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Now, I know it's only pre-season. Results mean nothing and it's all about using players you have at the club. However, it's the first ever time since I have been watching Everton Football Club, I have never been more worried going into a new season.

What I have just watched there was pathetic, embarrassing and laughable. What the fuck have we done with the money we have had over the 6 years?

How some of these players still kick a ball for us, even in pre-season, just baffles me. The majority of them should have been told at least to get their agents to move them on from the club and earn their bonuses. For example, Michael Keane... £30M!

The great defenders we have had at this club wearing the Number 5 shirt: Labone, Lyons, Mountfield, Watson and even players like Lescott and Weir. To now this. Never seen a centre-half scared of his own shadow – let alone movement. Watching him run on stream, you honestly think the stream is buffering – he is that slow.

I'm genuinely convinced that Tom Davies is only at the club because he is an Evertonian and his uncle is Alan Whittle. I'm convinced. Because, since 2017, the lad has done absolutely nothing. No signs of improvement at all. I'd call him a Championship player but it's an insult to those players. But it's all good because he scored a lovely chip against City a few years back, "good times" though.

I could go on but it's far too late. But seriously, this club needs to wake the fuck up. It's practically sleep-walking into the Championship. So, unless some decent players sign, unless the useless fuckers fuck off and the fans remain the same, it's going to be another long season. And there is only so much the fans can do... Fucking Sort It Out!!!

Will Mabon
70 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Michael, they're definitely doing something right, and I wouldn't for one minute say our lack of performance gifted them much.

Their sheer application, movement and commitment put us to shame, and there was some good individual skill on show.

I don't think Everton are so untalented as such. I do think there is a terrible malaise of mentality that's been around for too long, many years. I thought that was being slowly eroded but tonight it returned with a vengeance. It's getting to the point where it almost defines us as a club and team. I'm almost baffled by now.

Will Mabon
71 Posted 21/07/2022 at

I have to agree re Davies. I thought he was developing slowly, in fact, he was for a time – but that stopped and I'd say he's gone backwards now, and shows no signs of becoming anything we can use. If nothing else, he once got stuck in and was at least involved in the game, but even that seems to've left him.

Michael Williams
72 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Will I agree that the club is affected with "malaise" as you say. I have long argued that the entire EFC needs to be torn down and rebuilt root and branch, Every single employee should be put under the microscope from the Chairman to the lowest ticket taker.

Great organizations win consistently. Man City, Chelsea and the folks across the park have great organizations. We have had nothing like that for decades and it is clear Moshiri is not the guy to do this for us.

Kieran Kinsella
73 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Rode home on the metro with Everton fans and the consensus seems to be Michael Keane is terrible, Calvert-Lewin can't be arsed.

Just walked into the hotel and engaged two people wearing Everton shirts: same two players irked them.

I know it's not scientific but that's just the vibe among the attendees.

Neil Copeland
74 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Will #65, Jonathan and I put up bail.
Neil Copeland
75 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I really can't understand why Rondon played in both games and neither Simms nor Broadhead were used at all. Rondon really is a waste of space, what is the point of that?

As Kieran says in an earlier post, it wasn't a 4-0 game but we got what we deserved for our general lack of effort. During our struggles last season, I thought the relation between players and fans improved significantly. But, after watching two half-arsed performances, I really question whether these players give a shit.

It's not like me to feel so negative, do the players still not get how much it means to us? Another angle is that Everton had a wonderful opportunity to really promote themselves to a young and growing audience. They could have at least put in some effort and shown what the Premier League is all about. Instead, we get a limp squib and, I would think, a turn off for the prospective fanbase.

No doubt jet-lag will be used to excuse another poor performance at Blackpool on Sunday. Come on, Blues, for fuck's sake, show some pride!

Michael Williams
76 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Adrian Heath, Minnesota United Manager, before the game:

"I said to [my players] this a perfect opportunity for you to see what a Premier League player looks like and what it is like to play against them, so the players are really excited.

"There is a big sense of occasion really because Everton will be the biggest club to have come to our new stadium. For the guys, this will be the biggest game maybe they ever play. So we are looking forward to it."

Then our little MLS club crushed Everton like little tiny bugs 4-0.

Kieran Kinsella
77 Posted 21/07/2022 at

That's funny, I've been running the squad through my head all week and keep coming up with 31 names so missing one but I was determined not to cheat. But you've just reminded me of my missing man: Broadhead.

I forgot all about him. I'm not sure he will ever be a Premier League star but I've no doubt based on what I've seen of him that he has the same sort of heart as Gordon so, if nothing else, would make a bloody good effort. Presumably Frank doesn't rate him? Ditto Simms? Too bad.

Steve Brown
78 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Whether you liked or disliked them as players, we lost 20 goals and 20 + assists per season when we released or sold James, Sigurdsson and Richarlison. Unfortunately, there is zero possibility we will be able to replace their contribution given our financial constraints.

That leaves us with our leaky defence, terrible midfield and limited creativity in attack. That kills confidence and the results get worse.

Dig in, everyone.

Dupont Koo
79 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Keane and Holgate have to go, even with only a handicapped Mina, a scared Godfrey, and Branthwaite having gone to PSV. Keep playing them and it's just like what Einstein once said:

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

Neil Copeland
80 Posted 21/07/2022 at

It certainly looks that way.

Neil Copeland
81 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Dupont, actually, I think the definition of insanity is supporting Everton.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
82 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The positives from tonight clearly start — and pretty much end — with the top-level fitness, commitment and vision of a couple of Toffees putting in a top shift: Neil Copeland and Kieran Kinsella.

It would've been more pleasurable seeing those two fellas out on the pitch rather than those guys in the pink jerseys everyone loves so much. Neil and Kieran, it was a real pleasure meeting up in anticipation of a big night and then commiserating for 2 hours. I hope we can do it again one day.

I guess we're supposed to cut the team some slack because it's pre-season and Frank's been working them hard in the heat and they're mostly playing alongside new teammates. All true. But there were not many positives from tonight.

I'm hopeful only because a new squad takes time to gel, and also because Mina is fit and we have Tarkowski. Beyond that, unless we find some composure and creativity in midfield, we're in big trouble.

So here's to hoping those 2-3 new signings we're all waiting for inject some life into this squad. And Mina stays fit. And Pickford is in top form all season. And Calvert-Lewin somehow gets the service he needs to score 15-20. And Gray and Mykolenko take another step forward. And Gordon finds a few more assists and goals. And Patterson settles in. And Tarkowski is the captain who lays into anyone who isn't cutting it. And Warrington and Simms and Mills and other young players earn some playing time.

Damn, that's a lot to ask. But after tonight, I'll take any of the above. At least it was a beautiful night in Minnesota.

John Pickles
83 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Are ATV Irdning available? With luck and a following wind, we might just be able to scrape a 0-0 draw at the moment.
Jay Harris
84 Posted 21/07/2022 at
After watching these first two games, I'm reasonably positive about Tarkowski, Mills, Mykolenko, Iwobi, Doucouré, Dele and possibly Gordon.

Very negative about Keane, Nkounkou, Patterson (nowhere near ready for the Premier League), Godfrey (Where has he gone?), Calvert-Lewin (Where was he?), Gray (10-minute player when the mood suits)...

That's 7 reasonable players out of a squad that's supposed to be around 25. That's 18 players needed of a sufficient quality to play in the Premier League... Absolutely frightening thought.

Kieran Kinsella
85 Posted 21/07/2022 at

I was behind the goal first half and it was really frustrating. Doucouré was looking around for runners and there were none and Iwobi kept getting into dangerous positions screaming for the ball but he was ignored.

The issue was Tom was playing about 2 feet in front of the centre-backs which is pointless for a guy who can't tackle or kick the ball more than a yard.

Gray has one-track vision, doesn't ever look around to see who's on, and Calvert-Lewin just seems to loiter in the box and make a half-hearted effort to clumsily win balls. Gordon tries but he wasn't on the same page as his teammates in giving or receiving.

We need a decent striker to light a fire under Calvert-Lewin's ass as he looks like he's on Easy Street. We need a proper midfield and, unless today was an aberration, we need a right-back.

Mark Andersson
86 Posted 21/07/2022 at
No surprise to wake up to this news..

Get the doom and gloom early — I have a feeling Frank can't get these players motivated, for whatever reason...

Frank needs way better players to work with; otherwise, he will be out on his arse...

Relegation battle from the start — unlike last season's good start.

Charles Brewer
87 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It sounds as though the “couldn't give a stuff” attitude continues, and we have now, lost the one outfield player who could be relied on for some passion and energy to Spurs.

Why didn't we sell Calvert-Lewin (and his “mental health” bollocks) and double Richarlison's wages? Awful, awful, error.

Karl Masters
88 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Karl Masters
89 Posted 21/07/2022 at
To think the bookies had us down as 6-4 On to win!

Jack Convery predicted 4-0, but I doubt he meant to them!🤦🏻‍♂️

Alan J Thompson
90 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I really don't care how fit and far through their season Minnesota is, Everton is supposed to be made up of professional footballers at the highest level — getting thrashed 4-0 is, at best, unacceptable.

I think Frank's planning must now revolve around avoiding relegation as even now bringing in 2 or 3 new players is probably too late.

Did Inchy have any after-match comments?

Jim Bennings
91 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I don't know why anyone is shocked when they see that these players just keep producing similar results and performance levels year-in and year-out.

The squad is miles weaker than this time 12 months ago.

Rodriguez, Sigurdsson, Richarlison all gone; no goals or creativity to replace them.

We will be forced to sit here and big up annual failures like Keane, Gomes, Davies, Holgate, Rondon etc as the season goes on and somehow be told that results will come... LMFAO.

For this reason, I have absolutely no enthusiasm about the new season starting in 2 weeks' time.

Ben King
92 Posted 21/07/2022 at

Bloody hell. That's embarrassing. Against an American team.

I didn't see it but that's shameful.

Mal van Schaick
93 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Hammered, by the reports that I've read. A lot of defensive errors leading to the goals. That's what happens when you keep dross on the books.

A few weeks to the start of the season. Unless there is a further clear-out and rebuild with better quality, we are in the crap.

Colin Glassar
94 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The Moshiri-Kenwright involution continues then?
Jerome Shields
95 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Moshiri attended the game. I suppose Everton didn't want to embarrass their would-be owners in St Paul & Minneapolis.

Everton's pre-seasons will never change: Finch Farm Holiday Camp on tour.

Peter Neilson
96 Posted 21/07/2022 at
“I said to [my players] this a perfect opportunity for you to see what a Premier League player looks like and what it is like to play against them, so the players are really excited.”

To which they replied: “Can we play them every week?”

Bet they were left stunned and surprised by the level of a Premier League side.

Michael Lynch
97 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The fact that Rondon is getting so much game time on this tour surely tells us that he will be the back-up to Calvert-Lewin up front this season?
David Bromwell
98 Posted 21/07/2022 at
What a way to start the day. I opened up ToffeeWeb expecting to read about a much-improved performance... and the rest is history.

Things are looking desperate, poor defensively, no midfield and no attack. Not sure what Frank can do as, at present, he doesn't even have the core of a team to build on.

Maybe it has to be 5 at the back, a couple of the youngsters, and two new cut-price superstars, and somehow Frank can get two of the others to at the very least put a shift in. Likely to be a very long and painful season.

Danny O’Neill
99 Posted 21/07/2022 at
In his interview (other thread on here), Lampard spoke about the speed of the game and moving things quickly.

I don't know if anyone else noticed but, as embarrassing as this is for a bunch of Premier League players, I'd have actually stopped our warm-up for 10 minutes and made them watch the Minnesota players in a mini-game pinging the ball about one, all quick touch and playing with intensity.

Danny Baily
100 Posted 21/07/2022 at
This has looked more like a holiday than a preseason tour. It's been a bit of a shambles of a summer.
Derek Knox
101 Posted 21/07/2022 at
While the results are generally immaterial on pre-season outings, or so people keep saying, this was yet another abject performance – especially first half, with the only glimmers of hope coming from the inclusion of Lewis Warrington, Stanley Mills and a few others. The first team were extremely poor, and I sincerely hope neither Davies nor Doucouré is our midfield backbone.

The defence was poor and Keane first half reverting back to the question "Has this guy ever played before?" I had also hoped to see more from Patterson but, being new and relatively young, he gets a bye for now.

If Calvert-Lewinis the answer up front, God Help Us! Gordon was poor but was left on with Gray for the second half start but neither improved with very poor attempts at goal.

Fair play to MNUFC – they all played like they meant to get a win and a decent showing.

Oh... Kenwright Out!

Bill Fairfield
102 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Just over 2 weeks to the start of the new season, and already a stark warning by manager Lampard to the squad. Doesn't bode well.
Gary Jones
103 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Over the summer, I was absolutely convinced a strong CDM and CM would transform this team. Now I can't see us getting past 20-30 goals, and expect 4-0 or 5-0 games against could reach double figures.

It's hard to judge Lampard, particularly as only two of this current lot are his picks, but if fitness and intensity were enough ingredients, nearly every Championship club would now be in the Premier League.

I no longer know what the answer is. The young full-backs are weak defensively, the majority of our central defenders are mistake-ridden and inconsistent, we still have no steel in the midfield, we have attackers who need 4-5 chances to put one in. Only one of whom will likely reach double figures.

Surviving this season will take a miracle….

Tony Abrahams
104 Posted 21/07/2022 at
If Moshiri attended the game then that's the only positive imo, Jerome. He might be prepared to take a bit less money for the club now, mate, but I'm sure we are going to end up in the hands of new American owners quite soon though, which might explain why the invisible man, has made the trip?

Will @70, second paragraph, that's what always impresses me about the yanks mate, and it's why I keep saying they are really going to crack this soccer lark eventually.

Hard work covers a multitude of sins, but in Everton's case, I hope that they have been working that hard that this was a game they could have done without. It's all about getting ready for a very long season, so I'll pray it's not going to be the longest season of our lives.

Ian Bennett
105 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Like I've been saying — no pace, no creativity, no goal threat and cough goals up for fun.

So anyone in denial, take your rose-tinted specs off, put your Dave Hickson rosette down, and drink it in. This squad is absolute relegation fodder without some serious signings quick.

This team won't score, and will concede regularly. And if that's the case, you can expect a defeat every week, and Lampard gone by October – with the next contestant trying to polish a turd in Goodison Manager Squid Game.

Recruitment is key, yet we are now in a position of pissing that much money up the wall over the last 7 years, despite selling top talent, we technically can't sign what we need to address it.

This isn't about Lampard's motivation skills. It's about the same shit players, doing the same shit things.

Michael Keane & Co have been garbage for the last 5 years. This isn't a manager motivation problem, this is just bad players.

Ben King
106 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Tony #104,

Whether we have Moshiri in control or new owners, we're still bound by FFP.

In respect of the upcoming season and new blood: we're Donald Ducked!

Sam Hoare
107 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Pre-season games are a notoriously unreliable indicator of how the season will go but obviously such results don't breed confidence!

There will be money spent. And at least an attacker will be bought who can bring more goals and assists to the table. But whoever comes in will have no time to bed in; this is the cost of doing business late in the window (looking for good value).

It's gonna be a tough season and, if we start it slowly, then it may be hard to catch up. The bookies make Lampard the 3rd most likely to get sacked first. I hope they have it wrong as we could really use a period of consistency but I've not seen enough evidence of Lampard really organising an effective system for our players yet.

Playing open does not seem to suit us and it may be that we have to stick with the attritional approach a while longer. Tricky stick-or-twist decision for the manager.

Joseph Walsh
108 Posted 21/07/2022 at
They are exactly the same players that nearly relegated us last season. Why are they still near the first-team squad? Take out our best player, who left, and we are really in it for the coming season.

If we can't get rid of these players, then bench the likes of Keane and Davies and give the kids a chance this season. In fact, we won't get a transfer fee for most of them (like the ones we have just released), so pay up their contracts and save on wages – they are a liability and will hurt us all season.

How many more embarrassments can we all take in the coming season? I know it's a friendly... but it's “As you were, lads!”

Jim Bennings
109 Posted 21/07/2022 at
We can't pretend that results and performance don't matter because it's pre-season.

That might mean something if we had just finished 6th or 7th last season but the fact is, we nearly got relegated and were an absolute shambles for 90% of the campaign.

The results and performance levels we are seeing are what I expected from this group of players. If we fail to build a substantial squad between now and August, I expect another season like last.

We haven't made any signings to get me positive. Had we signed Koulibaly to partner Tarkowski, then brilliant, but we couldn't.

Had we signed someone like Connor Gallagher along with Moussa Diaby, then I'd be sitting here thinking good thoughts.

At best now we'll end with a loan for Cornet.

It's gonna be a struggle.

Ian Bennett
110 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Sam, with Michael Keane there, you don't need an opposition to score their goals. He will do it for you.

No manager in the world would get a different result from these players. You can have the best plans in the world but, once them players cross the line, it's all on them.

3-0 down after 35 minutes, Frank must have been shell-shocked.

Danny Baily
111 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It's been a mess of a summer: one free transfer in, terrible kits, best player sold, failed takeover, and a preseason with too much sightseeing and not enough matches.
Bill Watson
112 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Ben #92

It was more than shameful. We were actually flattered by 4 - 0

Minnesota hit the bar and missed a few other good chances. The nearest we came was when Alli failed to score from a yard out.

We created next to nothing and they were walking through our midfield.

Ian Hollingworth
113 Posted 21/07/2022 at
No surprises and looks like we are going to fall into the trap of trusting the same set of players.

The last few years we have let the best players go and only introduced average ones at best.

Strap in, folks, as it's going to be another bumpy ride.

Moshiri said judge us at the end of the transfer window and Bill says we have had good times so who are we to moan... lol.

Derek Knox
114 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Jim, I wonder if we get a flake with Cornet? We have enough 'flakes' in the squad as it is!
Ian Riley
115 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Like some fans said in the last friendly against Arsenal, “Means nothing, only a friendly.”

Really! Had no form since last September. For goodness sake, wake up! We are relegated under this management team!

Frank and his team must go. Our form under him statistically is terrible. It's not the players, it's the style he is implementing without the right players.

No form, no confidence and no belief. I just hope there are three worse teams next season.

Gary Jones
116 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Ian @ 115,

I'm of the opinion that Frank isn't good enough too. His system is random and unknown, too much chopping and changing, and no evidence of improvement anywhere other than Iwobi really.

However, as others have said, there is no manager in the world who could get a tune out of this squad right now. Change needs to come at board level now, and everyone who can should get to Goodison on Saturday to join the 27 years folks.

Eddie Dunn
117 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Can't say I'm surprised as they are midseason and USA is no longer that far behind Europe at club level.

As for us, it is worrying in that Frank Lampard has now had plenty of time to work out just who is capable of playing in which position. Poncing about making wholescale changes actually makes the team think that it isn't a real game, the responsibility is shared by 20 players.

There must be a "jolly" mentality in the camp. Nice that they have had their own holidays and now a nice little jaunt with the club. How many fans do they think that they have picked-up out there playing shite? It would have been better to stay home and play Tranmere.

I watched almost every game last season, and have done for years. These players have the same faults as ever:

Keane – own goal, where have I seen that before?
Godfrey – trying hard but lost in space.
Calvert-Lewin – lacking service, can't create a thing on his own.
Gray – ball-greedy never picks a pass.
Gordon – no end product.,
Dele – missed a sitter.
Davies – got better when he was out.
Doucouré – simply can't play football.

We are going down this season with this squad. Only a few astute purchases can inspire the rest to knit together.

The fans, a few Pickford heroics and Richarlison's scuffed shots saved us last season. It won't save us this time.

Christopher Timmins
118 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Yet another wake-up call with 2 weeks to go to the big kick-off!
Dave Lynch
119 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Means nothing tbf.

Frank is testing the players out for a system that works. We'll finish mid-table comfortably, I'm convinced of that.

On another point... if we get a decent bid for Calvert-Lewin, take it – nothing will change with this lad, he's hopeless.

David White
120 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It's all just preparation for me. I'd rather lose these games and Frank can see exactly what he needs to do, if he doesn't already know. Midfield is now the glaring priority. 2 at least.

Dave @119, I think Calvert-Lewin is suffering because of the lack of quality service from there. Lost all creativity without James, Sigurdsson now Richarlison too. He's never going to be someone who makes chances himself or takes a few men on. He's a poacher, all his goals come in the box.

I'd love Gilmour and a real tough-tackling central midfielder in the Gana mould. But I'm willing to trust Frank & Kev – let's not write the season off just yet, hey, fellas?

Robert Tressell
121 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Poor result. But not really changed my view that we'll finish about 12th provided we stick to a fairly deep, compact shape + back 4.

Obviously need 3 players:

1. Decent cover for Calvert-Lewin if he gets injured again;

2. Holding midfielder to screen defence and release full-backs higher up the pitch;

3. Ideally left-footed right winger / playmaker.

I suspect we'll get at least 2 of these one way or another but probably very late in the window.

This will help. Could even make Top 10.

There has never been a remote chance of an overhaul because no-one wants our underperforming players and we hardly have any money due to the insane transfer strategy of the last 5 years.

Mark Andrews
122 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I've been watching us for over 40 years. Every season, I'm excited about the new season.

Every season except last season. I feel even worse about this season. The teams around us have all strengthened, we're a weaker side than this time last year.

If Thelwell doesn't pull some rabbits out of the hat, we're in big trouble.

I long for the days of mid-table mediocrity.

Dan Hollingworth
123 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Just 2 weeks to go until the start, same squad as last season but without our best player. A 4-0 defeat to an MLS side will soon be forgotten about, but it's a true indicator of where we are at. I don't think people realise how bad this side is.

There's maybe only the goalie that would get into a Top 10 side. These players have had chance after chance, but the issue is they do a single good pass (Gbamin the other week for Calvert-Lewin against the Under -8s), an interview saying “Everton is a big club” or a good tackle, and people turn a blind eye to how crap some of them are.

Gomes, Man of the Match against a poor Brentford side in Lampard's first game. The club did a montage of all his passes and posted it 4 times for a week. Davies, will never be good enough but ,because he skateboards, and is mates with Calvert-Lewin, people think his breakout year is just upon us. It's been the year of Tom Davies since 2016.

These players are not good enough. Stop lauding them.

Off the field, everything we do is wrong, they are specialists in failure. They try to crack America, so they go there 2 years running, played 3 games in 2 years. Scored 1 goal, conceded 7, not won a game (10-9 on penalties aside). Imagine taking a little American lad to his first game to watch this crap and then Arsenal are down the road after spending £100M and adding about 5 players.

I see the fan engagement Twitter account tweet yesterday digital season cards will be sent out in a few weeks, the season starts in 2 weeks?

The sponsor was last minute, which meant we had a late kit launch again. No shirt sleeve sponsor (although rumours this has been sorted, but I'll believe it when I see it).

The direct debits for the £35 memberships failed because they changed payment provider or something, so they had to send an email on that.

We have a new Director of Communications in ‘Preno' who hasn't done anything since he tried to shoehorn the Chairman into the success of the Leicester away support.

No-one knows how we are funding the ground, they don't talk to us.

Not only that, I repeat. The squad is worse than last year, only without our best player, who's been sold to a Top 6 side below value because they have to meet FFP regulations after years of bad spending.

In the both the Mykolenko and Patterson transfer deals, the briefing to the media included a line how the chairman extensively negotiated these deals. So, if he's been doing the transfers, it's his fault we are in this mess.

I am at a point with this Chairman where I can't simply say his name any more. A bit like Voldemort. He'll be 77 soon... Could he be bothered holding on like this? Running us into the ground. He haave made about £40M off Everton. The club he loves. It's given him more than he can ever imagine. But it's time to go. Holding on worse than Boris and his CEO Nadine Dorris sidekick.

Rant Over!

Tony Shelby
124 Posted 21/07/2022 at
We lost 4-0? No way.

Fuck me, we’re shite.

Dave Abrahams
125 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I didn't see the game but reading the reports of a lot of fans tells me what I already knew. Unless another three (at least) new experienced football-wise players are brought in, we will worry more than we did in the last few weeks of last season.

I'm not sure if Frank Lampard has the ability to turn around Everton's fortunes but, being honest, no manager in the world could make this present very poor squad any better than they are.

I hope Mr Thelwell can raise the profile of the squad with the essential signings before the season starts in just over 2 weeks.

Are the Blackpool lights switched on next week? They might be something worth watching!!

Brian Murray
126 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Everton FC – quick to show the training videos, including Calvert-Lewin looking like he gets muller in a one-on-one.

Then, in a proper match, he tamely hits it straight at the goalie in the first minute or so. If he's our saving grace and will get us to mid-table, god help us.

No way will there be 3 worse teams to hide behind again.

Is Thelwell doing his job? Can't expect him to magically get buyers for Holgate, Keane, Rondon, Davies etc... but at least try.

Justin Doone
127 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Remember it's pre-season.

We know our defenders can't play out and pass the ball well enough but Frank has worryingly reverted to wanting to try. Stop!

We need two top-quality midfielders as a minimum. ASAP!

Pochettino is still available. Please do all it takes!

Nick Page
128 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Just 2 weeks to go to Chelsea and Kenwright is still there. How anybody is “excited” about this season beggars belief – we're worse than this time last year. We've got no money, no plan (as ever), and absolutely zero ambition to do anything.

Thelwell must be wondering what he's let himself in for. Shame on every single person that has ever supported Kenwright and his band of sycophants. But at least we'll be playing Championship football in a new stadium ….. if it ever gets built.

Kevin Molloy
129 Posted 21/07/2022 at
When Moyes was here, I was always frustrated with the teams he used to line us up against in pre-season. Other than the game prior to kick off, they were always against rubbish teams.

But maybe he was onto something. Thinking about it, it's a bit nuts to play Arsenal when they are ahead of us, and then a team actually in mid-season, on their home turf. We were asking for it.

I'm not reading much into this at all. That second-half team which conceded all the goals, it ain't gonna be lining up against Chelsea.

I'm more concerned with the recruitment. We should be getting under-the-radar signings in now, not waiting til the last fucking day to bring in another Dele Alli for a crazy amount of money.

Jim Bennings
130 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The ostrich factor exists because fans are too content with the same old lines every summer.

"Oh, Mason Holgate, he had a good end to the season, there's a player in there somewhere"

"I have always liked Tom (Davies), he's just had bad luck this year with injuries." (Totally forgetting that's he's looked below average for 5 years now...)

" Tarkowski will bring out the best in Michael Keane, he'll talk him through games, LOL."

"Calvert-Lewin will be back to his best this season, he just needs service."

"Gordon is our new Number 10, that means he's the new wing wizard that's gonna smash in 15 goals and tear the league up."

"Gbamin looked good against the Co-Op IX last week, I think he has something to offer."

It's bullshit talk like this that I read all the time from Everton fans during the summer break… any wonder why the club has no ambitions and can't move forward?

James Newcombe
131 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Me this morning:

"Oh yeah, We had a friendly! I wonder how we got on? Don't tell me we lost again..."

*Opens ToffeeWeb*

"4-0 hahahaa"

Jim Wilson
132 Posted 21/07/2022 at
We must bring in at least one ball-winner asap! He doesn't have to be the best. We need a ball-winner now!

We have needed a midfield that can protect the defence and keep possession and make us hard to beat for 2 years.

It is complete incompetence not to fix the gaping holes we have in the team.

Chasing wingers and fullbacks while not bringing in a ball-winner is incompetence of the highest order. And we need him in the team now so he can bed in.

Bring in a ball-winner right now, then spend some time looking for another one, for fuck's sake!

Brian Murray
133 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Justin @127. Pochettino trying to build his reputation. Are you sure?
Mal van Schaick
134 Posted 21/07/2022 at
There is an obvious need to wield the axe and get the rest of the deadwood out of our club. We cannot carry on in the same vein as last season.

In no particular order, Rondon, Davies, Holgate, Coleman, Allan, Gomes, Gbamin and Doucoure. Are just not good enough. Contracted or not. If we don’t shift this lot, I’m afraid it’s more of the same next season.

Dave Williams
135 Posted 21/07/2022 at
A shocking result and back home, Nero is fiddling while Rome burns.

The defence in the first half sounds just like it was last season. Are Mills and Warrington ready to play in the Premier League because at least they will put heart and soul into it.

First of all, Frank needs to settle on a formation and shelve any thoughts of playing out from the back. We need to accelerate any attempts to bring in new players – we could have lost three or four games by the end of the window and need to act now.

Very worrying!

Brian Murray
136 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Our players don't really switch off — it's that good players are street-wise and need minimal screaming or coaching as they know their job.
Kim Vivian
137 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Is it my improbable imagination after a bad night's sleep which included watching the second half this morning, or are Denise wassername and Liz Truss the same person?
Rob Dolby
138 Posted 21/07/2022 at
2 games 2 different formations 12 subs at half-time. Surely these games are about fitness and nothing else?

We are all still guessing on Frank's preferred formation.

You watch against Chelsea – it will be 11 behind the ball and hope for a break. We can't play any other way.

These results only highlight the need for recruitment.

Scott Robinson
139 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The team lost 4-0 to Manchester United last year and went on to have a great start. Early days so far and it looks like the team is still finding its feet. COYB.
Tony Everan
140 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Maybe this result is a good thing, the last thing we want is the gaping cracks being papered over.

The quality enforcer DCM needs sorting out as soon as possible. I don't want panic buys so, in that sense, I can be patient if they get it right. That said, we need to start the season strong and get some momentum and points in the bank. Then we need an attacking midfielder who can give us some goals and assists.

Other trading / signings may be sourced a bit later in the window.

No need for panic just yet but Kevin Thelwell needs to get ahead of the curve, at the moment he is lagging behind it. He may need some additional support from the top people within the club right now to get his targets over the line. It's time to pull out all the stops.

Trevor Peers
141 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It's a myth that these pre-season games don't matter. Remember in Silva's last season, we barely registered a goal in these games and it carried through to the Premier League, Silva was ultimately sacked!

Right now, I think we must be relegation favourites, that can't change either because we're skint. To add insult to injury of the brain cells, that pink kit just about sums us up – a bunch of big girls from top to bottom.

Ray Jacques
142 Posted 21/07/2022 at
What a sad state of affairs.

An owner who says the club is not for sale, but a consortium were going over the books in the summer. Was that just for a laugh??

He wants out, but cannot find a taker so the team stagnates (well, regresses as we lost our best player).

The whole place stinks and it is embarrassing being a supporter. In 50 years of support, I have never been so depressed. I always loved pre-season, even back in the bad years as there was always a buzz and optimism that this season we are going to be better.

Now it's just a stench of failure hanging around the place, and they don't disappoint on this, do they?


Alex Gray
143 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Reality is, for whatever reason, over the last 2 years, we have lost James, Digne, Sigurdsson and Richarlison who all contributed goals and assists and were our set-piece takers.

We have recruited Gray, Townsend, Rondon, Alli, Patterson and Mykolenko who are all downgrades although the two fullbacks will no doubt improve.

We have a team with no creators and no goals with an isolated Calvert-Lewin the only real danger.

The season starts in 2 weeks and we needed players to be integrated into the team for then. We either have no money or realise we need around five players with a tiny budget.

Mark Ryan
144 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I'm sensing the players are sulking because Richarlison has gone and they are looking around for that guy who will dig them out of the trenches and he's not amongst them anymore.

They are in a sombre state and, unless we get some bodies in, they will continue to sulk. It's the modern way. Prima donnas and, unless they are being looked after they sulk. They see the club is on its arse and so they are sulking. Simple as that.

Unless we get some new blood in through the doors, we are staring at a team who will simply give up far too easily. They need a spark.

Clive Rogers
145 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Kevin, 130, we were 3 down after 35 minutes, first half.
Brian Harrison
146 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Obviously the club won't say how desperate a financial plight we are in due to FFP rules, but I think we can read between the lines that we are trying to bring in players on a "buy-now, pay-later" loan agreement.

When you look at Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Arsenal, these clubs identified the players they wanted and moved early to make sure these players were fully integrated into the team before a ball is kicked for the new season. Were it looks like, if we bring in a player, his playing time before the season starts will be minimal.

Where is the planning? Thelwell and Lampard — what have you been doing since the season finished? I read that Lampard had identified Broja, Gallagher from his former club and Zinchenko from Man City. I thought they would have been good additions, but looks like none of these are coming here.

Then we were interested in Cornet and reports say he would like to join Everton, but we can't pay the £17.5 million up front, so now Fulham and West Ham are looking at making an offer.

Our fans were absolutely brilliant last season, and along with Richarlison and Pickford, they dragged this squad over the line.

Now, having lost our biggest attacking threat to balance the books, we are now missing his 15 goals per season to a squad with very few goals in it.

I know it's pre-season but I think we knew the Arsenal game would be tough but I don't think we expected a drubbing from an MLS side.

Joe Bibb
147 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I Just hope we don't arrange a friendly against Everton Ladies.
Christopher Timmins
149 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It's hard to see – wait for it, Danny – any young hungry ambitious players wanting to join our club. We are beginning to look like a destination of last resort.

With regards to the accumulated band of under-performers, nobody wants them. Like so many others, they will run down their contracts and move on.

The DoF has a thankless task!

We need a big two weeks in the transfer market or it's just going to be a re-run of last season – how could it be anything else with Richarlison no longer with us?

Andrew McLawrence
150 Posted 21/07/2022 at
That Spanish women's team would overpower our midfield.
Andrew Ellams
151 Posted 21/07/2022 at
We've got games to go vs Blackpool and Dynamo Kiev in the next 8 days before it kicks off for real in 16 days.

If we're still playing for fitness and finding our feet at this stage, we're in trouble when Chelsea come to town.

Tom Bowers
152 Posted 21/07/2022 at
You cannot make a silk purse from a sow's ear and that is exactly what this Everton squad is at the moment.

Actually, they are more like a pig's arse and – having not scored in 3 successive ''nothing'' games since they beat Palace at Goodison – the warning signs are there for everyone to see.

We can pick on individual players all day long but it doesn't alter the fact that the whole offense is impotent and many other teams know that even in the MLS.

I feel sorry for all those poor souls who have bought season tickets. Enjoy the disappointment.

Colin Malone
153 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Why hasn't Broadhead been given a run out?

Is Allan still injured?

I would go and get Idrissa Gueye on loan, instead of the headless chicken Doucoure.

Lester Yip
154 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I understand players might have an off day but unlilkely the whole team not performing. If it's at this scale, it could be some psychological issue. Hope Lampard and his team can diagnose it correctly and get it fixed soon.

Our financial situation must be so bad. It looks like all transfers would be last minute loan deals or free transfers that no-one else wants. The return of Barkley is getting more real as time goes by.

Why can't I see any rumours about Mina or Gomes moving on?

Brian Murray
155 Posted 21/07/2022 at
As for Dobbin, I need putting out of my misery and need to find out if he can make a difference. And surely Simms is better than Rondon.

All sounds desperate but if Thelwell is really caught on his heels and didn't plan for life after Richarlison... well, that's all we got.

Third time of asking and it looks like another iffy DoF.

Alan McGuffog
157 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I think it may have been an urban myth but I recall reading that Keith Richards would, on occasion, have a complete blood transfusion in order to rid his body of certain "toxins".

I'd be delighted if this could be done with our squad. Replace with players who i) can play footy and ii) would like to play footy for Everton.

Danny O’Neill
158 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Or once again Brian, the obvious 3rd person in the room is poking his fingers into something he doesn't understand.

I feel for any DoF at Everton.

Raymond Fox
159 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I haven't seen the match so can't comment on individual performances, but reading Lyndon's description, we had good chances to score.

We know we are moderate and these matches don't mean a great deal but the results are still disappointing.

Let's hope for a couple of good signings, because we need them.

Brian Wilkinson
160 Posted 21/07/2022 at
We have lost Richarlison; overall, Mykolenko has performed well... but, for me, the only two who seem to give a toss are Gordon and Iwobi.

I felt for Iwobi last night, he was trying link-up plays; over and over, he was calling for the ball to be played to him, only to be ignored.

Calvert-Lewin looks like he cannot be arsed. It could be down to poor service from our midfield, too many greedy individuals, we are simply not good enough and not playing as a team.

We can go two ways about it, splash out on two quality midfielders and take a chance of a points deduction if we overspend, or go with what we have, which is a big worry.

I would go for the first one, whatever points we may get deducted, we will certainly lose more points if we do not address the problem.

Shane Corcoran
161 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Could someone provide a review of Patterson’s performance please?
Brian Murray
162 Posted 21/07/2022 at

I'm one of the deluded fools who stayed up to the early hours thinking them Finch Farm videos will just transfer to the match.

Anyway, I hope Dunelm is sold out of bedsheets before Saturday.

Bill Watson
163 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Shane #177

He's way off Premier League standard, as is Nkounkou. Mills is way ahead of him and worth a punt.

Martin Mason
164 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It's not unknown for Everton to do very badly in pre-season friendlies so don't be despondent over this result; be positive.

If not, then you have nothing.

Mat Smith
165 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Not a great result but it is only pre-season, a time to try new things and give people opportunities – if when the transfer window shuts, we still haven't made any further signings and are sat bottom of the Premier League, then maybe it's time to worry a bit.

I see Chelsea lost to Charlotte FC – does that mean they will be in a relegation scrap with us?

Jim Bennings
166 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I don't think it's so much that Calvert-Lewin can't be arsed as such, he's just not that wonderful a player.

He's a player that needs absolute on-the-money crosses from wide areas to thrive, this has been noticable since Lucas Digne left.

Calvert-Lewin has never been and never will be a technically gifted striker like a Suarez or Salah that runs deep and can make chances for himself, he's not got that capability, never has had.

If we are persisting with him this season, and it does look likely, then the likes of Gordon, Gray, and the fullbacks are gonna need to up their game with end product.

Danny Baily
167 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Mat, we've looked terrible since September last year and all we've done since then is brought in an inexperienced manager and sold our best players.

Mykolenko looks like a good addition but Dele and Patterson look like they're not ready to make an impact in the short term. We can forgive people worrying a bit.

Winston Williamson
168 Posted 21/07/2022 at
If we continue to persist with the world's slowest and thickest midfield and Michael Keane, we will definitely be relegated. It's a 100% certainty.

That midfield would struggle in League One.

Michael Keane is the worst Everton defender ever. The guy is an absolute mouse!

Ralph Basnett
169 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Season ticket prices go up after last season's shit-show, promises of new players (judge us at the end of the window)! It may be too late by then.

Lampard is clueless using the same shit formation with the same shit players.

They have had a season to show their not good enough; he should start and finish with the kids, if we're going to get beat, at least it's with players who want a shot at playing for our once mighty club.

Keane, Davies etc should not be near the bench, never mind the team.

It's going to be a long season of big defeats to shit teams and a season-long struggle.

Ray Smith
170 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Danny @174,

Spot on IMO. Until that 3rd person stops interfering in transfers, we will stand still at best, or backwards without an injection of new blood.

How long will Thelwell reign before he jumps ship?

Winston @184,

I'm not sure how long Keane has left on his contract, but who would buy him? There was a rumour West Ham were interested! I don't think so (hope to be proved wrong). IMO we are stuck with him, unless we give him away.

Unless Frank & Thelwell can get a couple of loans, based on their previous club connections, where's the next signing coming from?

We could of course hope Bill Kenwright can do something he hasn't done for years – keep his nose out, and stop pretending he's an ace negotiator! IMO, that's why nobody is likely to come in before the usual scramble on the last day of the window!

Playing Chelsea first game of season, may allow us to get a loanee in from them after the first match, and not have to worry about not playing him until the return fixture.

I can dream, but the lack of activity is worrying. Hopefully Thelwell is being very active. I understand he keeps his cards close to his chest.

Derek Wadeson
171 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Pre-season is all about fitness, players giving it their all on the training ground.

When it comes to the matches themselves, it's like they have played 3 games in 6 days and have nothing left in the tank. At least that's how it should be.

Danny O’Neill
172 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I did too, Brian, but I'm two hours ahead of the UK at the moment, so at an even more of a ridiculous time. I kept drifting in and out of consciousness and sighing.

Here we go again brother. See you on the journey!

Danilo Andon
173 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Seriously, guys, what outcome do you expect if we are still fielding the likes of Keane (worst ever defender), Davies (overrated local lad), Holgate (any excuses?), Rondon (is he still running on the pitch?), Calvert-Lewin (Championship striker); and the slowest and brainless midfield of the whole Premier League.

Any club interested in our magnificent triumvirate – Gomes, Doucoure, Gbamin???

Bill Gall
174 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The most astonishing thing about these pre-season games is we are shown numerous videos of training sessions where the players are shown with crisp passing, and movement off the ball, receiving a pass. Yet playing in a match, most of the players couldn't pass wind.

Oh I might have mentioned it before — it's the fucking midfield that wins or loses games. We have not even looked like winning games so it must be obvious where the problem is.

It is no use winning the ball if you have no one who can open up the opposition's defense.

Iakovos Iasonidis
175 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Prepare yourself for more thrashing wearing this horrendous shirt! Shirt joke aside really prepare yourself for some thrashing...we are mid table championship level at best!
Alan McGuffog
176 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Mat're correct. I keep thinking back to Rochdale in 1969
As if !!!
Robert Tressell
177 Posted 21/07/2022 at
And although 12th sounds quite dismal - done right it could set us up nicely for a better future at the best stadium in the North West.

When I talk about these mediocre finishes - it's not because I think they're acceptable.

I think we should be tremendously ambitious - but most accept there is no short cut without money.

It is no longer a case of buying Reid and Gray and it all falls into place. We need to be much more sophisticated in our approach to squad building.

Danny O’Neill
178 Posted 21/07/2022 at
With you Barry. I don't wish for existence. I don't wish for 7th or 8th. I wish to be competing for success.
Soren Moyer
179 Posted 21/07/2022 at
How Tom Davies can be called a pro football player is beyond me!!! There are way better players than him in the Sunday League teams! Not Joking. Keane is shite as always. Holgate should never be near the first team ! Rondon should have stayed in China. DCL is not the striker everyone are hoping for to be. If there is a slight desire for success within our board, they should sell him to the highest bidder and replace him with Broja.
And that's just for the start!
Brendan McLaughlin
180 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Robert #207

Just as well you qualified your earlier post...I was just reaching for the "NSNO" card in my back pocket!

Brian Murray
181 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The thought we can build or even survive with no proper budget until bmd is just not on. This league is too ruthless plus the premier league don’t want us as we generate nothing for them as we seen with refs and var. We can’t just coast as much as the chairman loves to do it will end with relegation sooner or later.
Paul Hewitt
182 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Jeez reading most of these posts, I wonder why we bother. Might as well just close the club down.
Kieran Kinsella
183 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Woke up in the hotel, turn on the tv and the first thing I see is a replay of the pink 👚 piss party. Time to check out of Minneapolis
Barry Hesketh
184 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Paul @216
Another couple of years with the Muppet Show guys running the show and that may happen.

[Owner and Board]

It's time to play the music
it's time to light the lights
It's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight.

[Manager and Players]

It's time to put on makeup
it's time to dress up right
It's time to raise the curtain on the Muppet Show tonight.


Why do we always come here
I guess we'll never know
it's lke a kind of torture
to have to watch the show

[FA, Media, Officials]

And now let's get things started
Why don't we get things started
It's time to get things started
On the most sensational inspirational celebrational
This is what we call the Muppet Show!

(Bill blows his trumpet)

Michael Lynch
185 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I've just seen a clip of the Dele miss, it's massively impressive. It looked literally impossible not to score, I still can't work out how he managed it.

Mark Taylor
188 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Bill 180

I think you need to bear in mind that when you see those training games and defences being opened up with movement and passes, it is after all our own defence- or a version of it- that is being opened up. That might make it easier

Jay Harris
190 Posted 21/07/2022 at
If you had witnessed the 2 performances so far you would have thought the club was already shut down.

We are shit top to bottom with no clear leadership or plan.

Soren Moyer
193 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Paul, why!!?

Last time I checked, I was not the director of football for the club! However, when we sacked Benitez, Lucien Favre was available. I believe he was a far better choice than Fat Lampard! Hell, even Vitor Pereira would have done better with this pile of shite!

Ralph Basnett
196 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Time to keep giving these overpaid losers a cuddle is 100% over.

Fucking perform or fuck off to train with the under 23squad where you might learn how to play but also a bit of passion for club and the game.

For too long we have been carrying these useless duckers, enough is enough. We need o toughen up, stop getting mugged off by these so called professionals and get rid to the kids teams and let them earn their way back.

The team cannot be any worse for playing the kids as this waste of a tour has proven.

Brian Wilkinson
197 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Has anyone seen the sketch of Laurel and Hardy, trying to push a piano up those steps.

Well that's the way we are going, trying to get a few personnel out of the door.

Mike Gaynes
198 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Jonathan O, I'm glad you had such a good time last night with Kieran and Neil. You guys do the US Blues proud. I look forward to meeting all of you at some point in the future.

I'm not sure what everybody expected last night, but this outcome can't be considered a surprise. Minnesota is the equivalent of a good Championship side. If we had played a preseason game against Sheffield United at the halfway point of their league season, this is what would have happened. Chelsea, a far better team than us, lost last night to one of the worst teams in MLS. I doubt their fan site looks much like ours today.

I still predict we will do our transfer business late in the window, simply because we're not going to outbid anybody for the most popular candidates right now. And I predict TW will be in meltdown mode by then.

John Kavanagh
199 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Ralph @ 208.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, I wouldn't want our wasters going anywhere near the Under-21s, Under-18s or even Under-12s. They are a virus that infects all those around them with complacency, laziness, fear and indecision.

Ralph Basnett
200 Posted 21/07/2022 at
John (210), hindsight tells me you are correct, let’s just pay them off!!!
Jay Harris
203 Posted 21/07/2022 at
It was not the result but the way the team performed over 2 games.

We looked totally lifeless and disinterested and the scorelines in both games flattered us.

More worrying for me were some individual performances and I single out Godfrey, Keane, Patterson., Nkounku, Gray, DCL, who did not look up to Championship standard let alone the Prem.

Mike Gaynes
205 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Bill #210, it's not a strategy, it's just the reality of our financial situation. As last summer, we're not likely to get the players we "want" -- we're going to do what we did with Gray and Townsend. However, I do have confidence that Thelwell and Lampard won't be signing any more Rondons.

Jay #212, I partly agree, although I thought Gray and DCL looked just fine on everything but their shooting. Patterson obviously has a great deal to learn, but he's strong and fast, and his aggression makes me confident he will become a fine player over time. Nkounkou on the other hand clearly learned absolutely nothing from his unimpressive loan spell in Belgium, and unless he can learn to be an attacking winger, he's a writeoff.

However, I saw an astonishing ray of hope last night that I thought I glimpsed against Arsenal. JP Gbamin looked great, on the ball and off. My worry -- in fact, my conviction -- was that his catastrophic injuries would render him too slow to be a Prem player. But late in the game he sprinted back 80 yards, stayed stride-for-stride with Minnesota's fastest player, and blocked his shot. Easily. I couldn't believe it.

As incredible as it sounds, we may actually already have the DM we've been looking for. And that could save us the money we need for an attacking midfielder or goalscorer in the window.

Joe McMahon
206 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Been in meetings all day and come back to this. Let's face it we will go down next season. Without Richie abd no creativity in midfield or a striker that cab shoot outside the 6 yard box, we are for the chop.

The recruitment has been a dereliction of duty for any Premier league club, and the academy doesn't have a great record.

Paul Kossoff
207 Posted 21/07/2022 at
I suggest Everton make an appeal for Mark Knopfler to pen a new entrance song for us for next season because, on the latest showing, we truly are in Dire Straights.

Please don't put any positives on this shit show, no, oh the youngsters, or oh, Rondon looks slimmer, or, isn't Anthony Gordon's hair like Richarlison's. Anthony Gordon looks like the manager's son, he's in the team because of his dad, not his skill set.

I watched the whole game live on tv, from the start to the finish. At no time did I feel comfortable in us winning. No real pattern of play unless you count eleven men behind the ball. The most mobile of Evertonians was Adrien Heath!

We have no structure, no-one does what he's supposed to do. Doucoure thought he was a striker, waddling about the opponents' penalty area, taking 5-yard passes and immediately giving the ball back while pointing to some mythical point where the ball should go next.

Where is Frank's idea that players should maintain the position? We are all over the place! Sure one or two times we would put a few passes together, pick out a player who would then lose possession or fall over.

Calvert-Lewin didn't seem to do even the basics properly, continuously looking as if he has no idea in what to do next. Anyone who thinks he's our saviour for this season is delusional to the highest order.

I really have no idea what Lampard's idea of putting together a winning team is; worryingly, I don't think Frank has either? We are now heading into the perfect storm this season, and that usually ends with the ship sinking.

Jay Harris
208 Posted 21/07/2022 at

I agree with you on Gbamin but the speed of the Premier League is something else. I just hope he can cope because, as you say, he could save us a lot of money and fill a huge gap.

Nkounkou is a total write-off defensively but could be squad cover further up the pitch.

I'm still hoping Patterson is still getting back to match fitness following his injury but his defensive awareness worries me.

I was impressed with Mills though and feel he could deputise for Coleman who I can't see being displaced by any of the current challengers.

Besides their shooting, I was also concerned about the lack of movement by Calvert-Lewin and Gray.

Still, we Blues have to hope something changes for the better.

Bill Gall
209 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Mike #205,

I mentioned Gbamin's steady performance against Arsenal and got comments that he would never make it as he was too injury prone. But with his loan out and his fitness campaign, he seems a better choice than some of the other candidates.

At the same time, I thought Davies never done his chances any good. Same last night.

Andrew Keatley
210 Posted 21/07/2022 at
The Minnesota players were better at passing the ball quickly and accurately in tight areas – often creating an out-ball opportunity to a wide player in space ready to either cross or take on a defender one-on-one.

The move for the Keane own-goal, the shot that Pickford saved immediately prior to their third goal, and the overload for the fourth goal - all those are examples of Minnesota managing to get in behind our retreating and passive defence.

If Lampard is unable to find a way to successfully organise and motivate this group of players – which his predecessors have all ultimately failed to do – then it is going to be another long and frustrating season.

Right now I do not see much in terms of design or cohesion; our strikers look isolated, our midfielders seem constantly caught between defending and attacking (and don't manage to do either with any real intent), and our defenders prefer to mark space than mark opponents. It is not a good recipe for anything other than defeat.

Minnesota managed to be aggressive and assertive both in attack and in defence. We are miles away from that, and look like a team of individuals in search of leadership and direction.

Time for Lampard to take control and implement something more than an ethos or a feeling – he needs to give proper instruction and hold players to account.

Jim Wilson
211 Posted 21/07/2022 at
We need a leader and ball winner for midfield. Why are we waiting?
Derek Knox
212 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Having calmed down a tad, after that display last night, and having time to analyse, I truly feel for all the guys who have gone out of their way to either visit the US specially to include these games, or just specifically for the games alone. That also goes for our US-based Blues who may have travelled Interstate to lend their support.

What an embarrassing effort, and we can't excuse it by saying it was a one-off, they were equally poor against Arsenal, or that Minnesota were ahead of us fitness-wise, being mid-season etc.

I don't say that with any disrespect to MNUFC, fair play they put in a good effort and left us with 90 minutes of egg dripping from all involved chins.

I didn't see any game plan, or indeed any hope for the season ahead, which is only 2 weeks away, to give me any optimism whatsoever.

Julian Exshaw
213 Posted 21/07/2022 at
How did we survive last season? We had the unbelievable support of the fans, Pickford's amazing saves and the much improved performances of Iwobi and the charismatic Richarlison. Apart from the latter, it is of some comfort to know we can call on those attributes this season because there seems to be little else to cling onto at the moment.

I totally get that this is pre-season but the signs are not good, are they? I didn't watch the two games but nothing I have read about them has filled me with confidence... quite the opposite!

Most of the players we have been linked with have gone or seem set to go to other clubs. We appear to be 'in for' Billy Gilmour and some other Chelsea squad players but is that the answer? We seem to be the only club suffering from the menace of FFP.

Last but not least, that shirt! That bloody awful pink shirt. Call me old-fashioned but why on earth do we have to wear that? Who designed it? Who chose it and what were they on? Get rid, please!!

Having said all that, I can't wait for the new season and hell yeah, in Frank we trust (for now!). Nil Satis!!

Paul Kossoff
215 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Does anyone agree that Dele Alli should have been sent off? One tackle he made was with pure intention to injure the opposition. Absolute disgrace to do that in a friendly. Didn't he used to lose it a bit for Spurs?
Will Mabon
216 Posted 21/07/2022 at
Paul, he did steam in there pretty firmly but the other player didn't back out, and they hit shin-to-shin. I think Dele got some discomfort himself.

It was unnecessary but luckily no raised foot or studs contact. He does have previous of course but more in the hard, sneaky and over-combative vein than outright dangerous.

Paul Washington
217 Posted 22/07/2022 at
As a tailpiece to the US tour, my son has been stranded in New York because of cancelled flights from Minnesota that resulted in them missing the flight home. They are now scrambling around trying to get flights to western Europe.

And those half-arsed pricks put in 2 abject performances for these supporters... I hope the gobshite players know what some fans have to do to support the Blues.

James Parker
218 Posted 22/07/2022 at
Days of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman. Though posterity has given us a clear picture how their reigns turned out, once things I assume we agree on is so far it has been better than what we have witnessed with the current side. May I suggest my own point: 1. wingers aren't able to run both ways. defend and attack, this makes us very open. Gray, Gordon a bit of same can't run both ways. Attack they might stand out but defensively that are anonymous. That is why 5-4-1 helped towards the end of last season, becos everybody was thinking lets defend first then attack later. Now get the players who can do that consistently like back in the Moyes-Martinez etc days.

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