Everton vs Liverpool

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The protracted nature of Idrissa Gueye's move from PSG means that he hasn't yet played any competitive football this season so he may be withheld from the starting XI for this one

The Goodison derby rolls around a little earlier than usual this year and it arrives with Everton having emerged from the summer’s transfer madness a little light up front and still looking for their first victory of the season.

Midfielders Idrissa Gueye and James Garner arrived on deadline day as the Toffees’ seventh and eighth signings, following Neal Maupay through the door after he was signed from Brighton & Hove Albion a week ago yet wasn’t eligible to play in either of the last two games.

The Frenchman is in line to make his Everton debut in the cauldron of the Merseyside grudge match and with those seven days of preparation with his new team-mates, he could go straight into the starting XI.

With Gueye’s switch from Paris Saint-Germain rumbling on for six weeks, the Senegal international hasn’t played any competitive football since the end of last season so his match sharpness may be a concern for Frank Lampard.

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It could see Tom Davies rewarded for his recent form with another start as one of two Scousers likely to be involved for the Blues if, as is hoped, the manager persists with the three-man midfield that was so effective against Leeds United on Tuesday.

If he does, it will almost certainly mean an unchanged back line of Nathan Patterson, Conor Coady (facing his boyhood club), James Tarkowski and Vitalii Mykolenko while, up front, Dwight McNeil could be the one that makes way if Maupay is selected.

Having stumbled out of the traps by failing to win any of their first three games, Liverpool don’t have the same practically invincible air they carried last season when they crossed Stanley Park and tore Rafael Benitez’s two-man midfield to shreds in a 4-1 win.

Jürgen Klopp’s men have since hit their stride with a record-equalling 9-0 demolition of Bournemouth and a somewhat fortuitous victory over Newcastle in midweek but Lampard will no doubt be telling his charges that the reds can be got at with the right approach and attitude.

Klopp is likely to be without the likes of Thiago Alcantara, Diogo Jota, Jordan Henderson, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ibrahima Konate and Naby Keita but Darwin Nunez will be available for the first time since his sending off against Crystal Palace and the German still has more than enough quality on which to draw elsewhere in his side with new loan signing Arthur like to figure at some point.

With Goodison guaranteed to be up for it, Everton should have the atmosphere on which to thrive and at least make a good account of themselves, something they weren’t able to do in this fixture last season.

A victory from a game from which very little is expected would the perfect way to pick up the first three points of the season. Fingers crossed a Blue hero is in waiting ready to write his name into the history of this feisty fixture.

Kick-off: 12:30pm, Saturday 3 September, 2022
Referee: Anthony Taylor
VAR: Darren England
Last Time: Everton 1 - 4 Liverpool

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Patterson, Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko, Davies, Onana, Iwobi, Gordon, Gray, Maupay


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Derek Knox
1 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:11:02
Now the dust has settled (just) on a good Window, albeit with the exception of another front man or striker, we have, I believe been less gung-ho, and bought or loaned sensibly.

We also have a potential team of grafters with no shirkers, so team selection for the derby could be crucial. It is not easy to come to a new Club and be thrust into a derby for your initiation.

Obviously Gana has previous experience in these encounters, and I can see him possibly going straight in, with a note, "Carry on where you left off, mate!" Still be interesting to see the starting line-up.

I just hope Bette Davies doesn't start, because he is a local lad and all that guff. The only factor that does worry me a tad is, where the goals are going to come from?

Surely Gordon can't score again in consecutive games for the third time, will Maupay be risked as a debutant?

Gray and Mcneil are a possible source, unless a set-piece comes into the reckoning, either way looking forward as always to (hopefully) getting one over on the RS and halting their progress while improving ours.

sean roe
2 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:29:44
Games like this one won't define our season, it's the big clubs we need to be competing with: Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea.

It's crucial that we keep our concentration for the full 90 minutes, it's easy to switch off against the smaller clubs.

Everton 2 v 0

Lester Yip
3 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:41:32
It would be mad not to start with a proper striker. What's the point of bringing Maupay in and not playing him? He's the kind of players suits well with derby. He has that aggressiveness and intensity in him to grind something out.

I reckon Gueye can slot straight in. His experience and understanding of the league would allow him so. But Frank might still start with the same midfield for now and when Onana is tired or someone pick up a card, or to see out the game, Gueye will be released.

A win is overdue. I feel we might get something out of this game.

Colin Glassar
4 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:50:43
Gana has to start before Davies.
Bernie Quinn
5 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:53:46
I've said previously that a good team of players are very capable of beating a team of good players.

I now believe Frank has built a good team of players, and so I am hoping it will be a home win of 2-1. (However, last night I dreamt it was a 3-3 draw!)

Derek Thomas
6 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:03:31
No long build up, a bit more snide in the team, a seemingly more effective 4 at the back...'forced' upon Lampard like the similarly effective 'Wall of 4' was 'forced' on Ancelotti. 3 in midfield and...Ta-daaa - an actual striker.

What could possibly go wrong ?

Andrew Ellams
7 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:04:16
I see Gana coming in for Davies with Maupey in the bench.

Interesting to see if they throw their new guy straight into a high intensity game like this

David Bromwell
8 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:06:22
For once I would disagree with Lyndon slightly. We were a poor team when we played them at home last year, but there was loads of effort from the boys and I didn't go home too depressed.

For tomorrow, it's a disaster if we all get wound up and try to play at break neck speed, because quite simply they are better than us in most areas of the pitch.

I hope Frank and Co have devised some sort of game plan, as Leeds game, and we keep the three man midfield, where I hope Gana can play. I appreciate he will not be match fit, but Tom Davies in these matches always lets himself down with silly fouls and is likely to be sent off.

I also hope we keep the same two on the right hand side, where Patterson and McNeil played so well the other evening, this would mean that initially at least Gray would loose out as surely Maupay will start.

Essentially we likely to be unable to out play them, but with the tactics right and our two canny street wise centre backs we will hopefully come away with the 3 points.

Nick Page
9 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:12:19
If we were 5-nil up on 89 minutes against these poxy bastards, I'd still expect us to lose. Hate them
Jeff Armstrong
10 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:24:30
Agree with Colin @4.
Mark Ryan
11 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:25:38
Maupay from the off. I hope he doesn’t get a red. Cool heads.

I can see the likes of Cody, Maupay, Gueye, Garner, Gordon and Onana being well up for this one. We must keep 11 on the pitch.

Going to be a feisty one. A lot of scouse on the pitch ha ha bound to be trouble UTFT 2-1

Minik Hansen
12 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:26:46
It will be my first game at Goodison Park!! All the way from Greenland, can’t even imagine how it’s gonna be!
Jim Bennings
13 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:32:42
You simply have to start with Maupay.

We cannot allow yet another game to pass without a recognized striker, it hasn't produced goals so far and tomorrow won't be any different.

Play the best players you have available and then you can have no complaints.

Liverpool are there to be got at, they scraped home on Wednesday night, lucky against Palace and Fulham.

It's up to Everton to be a bit braver though, I'm concerned again we are far too cautious in games, we need to start taking risks.

It's hard to imagine that we haven't beaten Liverpool at Goodison since 2010 and there is a possibility now that may not happen again at the Old Lady, tomorrow may represent our best chance.

Nick Page
14 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:37:10
Good luck Minik. Hope we can win for you.
Mick Roberts
15 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:38:18
Just don't want to see fucking klipperty klopp marching about after game punching air draw will do for me win would be fantastic have the poorest loser in football moaning about everything
Minik Hansen
16 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:38:40
Thanks, Nick! Good luck to Everton and for you all! I haven’t been in a real football stadium, so it’s gonna be a real rush, I believe!
Ray Roche
17 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:39:03
Hi Minik, have a great day, let’s hope you bring us some luck!! Enjoy the occasion 👍🏻
Dave Evans
18 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:40:24
Mannik # 12

Hope the team get it done and you enjoy the game Mannik. Either way, it's going to be a burn into the brain experience.

Jim Lloyd
19 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:42:17
Either that, Nick, or the game would get called off by the referee finding glass on the pitch! By the way, I thought last year we did quite well, the lads played their hearts out, we got back to 2-1. Then (was it Keane?) we gave an clear chance to them and it it was 3-1. Then the arse fell out the team with that mistake.

Anyway, this lot will be full of themselves and we have a number of new players who will be playing and maybe some who won't. If we can get the midfield right, and don't think it's a bad midfield now, but Davies maybe as a sub and bring Gana in. I think three fast forwards, if they are given the through balls to attack them, can cause damage to their defence.

Don't really know anything about Maupay and it might be too much to expect him to start. I'd like to see him take some part though. But against Leeds, Gray and Gordon both hit the back of the net. Though the insane use of VAR currently in use, ruled it out.

I'm hopeful that we don't collapse, as we have so many times, and I hope we get a referee who isn't their twelfh man! Other than that lets see how we shape up. We have a better defence, much more choice in midfield and fast forwards. Thats progress and if we win or lose tomorrow, I'm much more hopeful that, for a start, we can steer away from the mire this season.

PS, Minik, well done for making such a trip and I hope you enjoy the game and see the Great Old Ground before we move to Bramley Moore.

Have a great time, mate.

Minik Hansen
20 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:44:04
Thank you, Ray, I’ll do my best to give all the luck I can find! Dave, absolutely. Thanks.
Jay Evans
21 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:48:11
I very rarely find myself disagreeing with Lyndon but rewarding Tom Davies for his recent ‘form’ is a strange thing to say. He has been his usual decidedly average self over the last few games and his selection on Saturday as a starter would be disastrous.

Gana walks into our starting eleven as does Maupay.

A number of blues I’ve spoken to this week are supremely confident ! I’m not sure what they’re on but the gulf between us and the shameless ones remains huge unfortunately. I am praying (don’t laugh)for a fair crack of the whip tomorrow from the officials. Should that happen, along with the bear pit atmosphere at the old lady, we could scrape a draw.

My prediction - an improvement on the same fixture from last season but still a defeat I’m afraid : 1 - 3 with Maupay getting our goal.

Onward Evertonians.
Full support

Jermaine Jennings
22 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:50:29
Lampard has to play with Maupay otherwise we are going to get hammered.

Also he has to balance the midfield out by playing Onana Iwobi and Gueye (get a least 60mins).

As Jim #13 said play our best players frank, RS midfield isn't good we should beat these.

on another note I have a spare ticket as I'm unwell. if your interested email jjcolly78@gmail.com.

Minik Hansen
23 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:57:15
Jay #21 I understand your concern. No predictions from me, just full support. COYB.
Tony Waring
24 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:04:12
Minik (12) - it'll be like Sondre Stromfjord or Nuuk on a saturday night !
Mick O'Malley
25 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:04:26
Minik you will love it, nowhere better than a rocking Goodison park, let’s hope the blues give us a victory, we’re due one against this shower, one victory in the last 26 Derbys is absolutely piss poor, let’s hope we can take advantage of their midfield injuries and get a long awaited victory UTFT 💙
John Kavanagh
26 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:18:36
We have to start Maupay and I'd be tempted to start McNeil on the right over Gray, primarily to prevent their full backs being given free reign. I'd keep the same starting midfield and back four.

Substitutions will decide the outcome of this match and we will have a more balanced bench to choose from to counter the chemically induced running of the asthmatics over the full 110 minutes (they get extra added time if they're not winning, remember).

If Pickford keeps his sensible head on and we can wind them up with an in yer face performance, we can win this one courtesy of a debut goal from Maupay just to rub it in. I want to see an apoplectic Klopp whingeing about injuries, the wind, the grass being too wet, green etc. etc.

Oh and our 12th man needs to be right at them from the off. If we are to get our first win, I can think of no better fixture to achieve it in. COYB.

PS Hope you have a day to remember for the rest of your life Minik!

Mal van Schaick
27 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:18:50
The biggest problem in this game may be the referee. Tuchel made his thoughts known on Taylor and got his fine from the FA.

Given Lampard's comments at the end of last season, when we were hard done by on blatant decisions, I smell a rat.

Bobby Mallon
28 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:20:36
If Maupay is on the bench then Frank can do one. We are desperate for a striker, somebody to keep their defenders occupied whiles Gordon or Gray makes those runs in behind. He has to start.
Minik Hansen
29 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:22:49
Tony #24 literally nothing “quite” like that, I believe!
Kim Vivian
30 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:22:57
I think the tough decision for this game will be Rondon? or Maupay? Rondon offers basically nothing, I think Gana will come straight in so I could see:


In the hope that Maupay could make himself an instant Goodison legend.

Stu Darlington
31 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:34:32
Sean @2,

“It's easy to switch off against smaller clubs.“ I love it!

I can see why Lyndon has gone for Tom Davies, Gana must be way off match fitness.

i Would like to see Garner involved at some point, i liked what I saw in his clips from Forest.

Brian Harrison
32 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:38:59
I think mind set will be just as important as team selection and formation. Should we allow our neighbours to have as much possession as we allowed Leeds and Villa, then I am afraid there is only one outcome.

They look a bit shaky at the back but, if we don't pressure them and try and hit them on the break, it's asking a lot. So Lampard, be brave: 4-3-3 Gueye to start as well as Maupay and have a go.

Joe Digney
33 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:42:01
Be brave, start with the 4-3-3 from Tuesday but Gueye replaces Davies and Maupay replaces McNeil. For the first time in a long time, we might actually have more energy in midfield with their current injuries so pack the midfield and overrun them.

1-0 Gray with the winner. UTFT.

Steve Shave
34 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:51:24
I agree with above comments that Gueye should start instead of Tom, a top professional and almost certainly has kept himself in good shape.

For me, I would go 4-5-1 moving into 4-3-3 when we have the ball:

Pickford, Patterson, Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko, Gordon, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, Gray, Maupay.

Is it unrealistic of me to think we can pinch this? I will be travelling back from holiday in the car so will only have it on the radio above squabbling kids. COYB.

Pat Kelly
35 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:57:34
So these essentially are Lampard's team now, the ones he signed or kept. It'll be a long season struggling for goals. Maybe enough grit to stay up.
Lee Courtliff
36 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:05:19
Good luck, Minik. I too have a feeling we'll win this... but I said that before Brentford and Leeds!!

Either way, I'm sure we'll be far more competitive than the last 2 derbies.

Brian Murray
37 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:14:34
Football is such a fluid fast game and changes in the blink of an eye. Frank hasn't quite mastered in-game management but, with his experienced backroom, he can set us up right.

As I say, the Plan B and C, ie, subs etc, not his strength but we have to grow with him. Benitez was hopeless at that from day one. These can be got at as long as there are 3 in midfield and Maupay from the start.

Ciarán McGlone
38 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:20:38
The nightmare is that, after showing he can depart from a 5 man back line, Lampard reverts to it tomorrow and we are defensive from the off.

Gueye has seen these games before and walks straight in ahead of Davies (who has been functional but average).

The rest of team picks itself, Maupay has to start over Rondon and Gray and Gordon either side ahead of Onana, Gueye and Iwobi.

That should be enough to give them a game.

ps: I don't want to see any of this shithouse time-wasting that we did last week. It's pathetic.

James Head
39 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:26:30
Tom Davies rewarded for his recent form!

What's the reward, does he get a move to Everton Ladies? Or maybe a trip to the hairdressers to get his man-bun groomed, Calvert-Lewin will be sooo jealous!

Anything can happen in a derby, just don't give the cheating red bastards any time on the ball. So much will depend on the ref, a win for the RS is what the "Premier League Product" requires for worldwide audiences, so don't expect VAR to do us any favours

Cynical me, never.

Christine Foster
40 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:32:20
The season proper starts tomorrow. With Goodison electric, it's time to get after them with a vengeance, playing 4-3-3 or even 4-4-2; don't sit back and let them have the room to play... in their faces!
Derek Taylor
41 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:35:48
Something is wrong with the system when financial constraints applied by the Premier League allows Everton to net spend only £38M in the window whilst Chelsea can spend ten times that amount.

Or is there another reason why we can only afford to buy a Brighton reserve to improve what is comically referred to as an 'attack'?

George Cumiskey
42 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:37:56
In my humble opinion, if Davies starts, we've got no chance as he's too slow and not up to Premier League standard.

Nothing personal against the lad but he's never improved in all the time he's been here.

Mike Connolly
43 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:38:26
Put Gueye straight in.

A non-fit Gueye is better than a fully fit Davies.

Dale Rose
44 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:39:40
I think Davies has been much improved the last few games. So let's get off his fucking back and give the lad some encouragement.

Been a good window, irrespective of some of the nay sayers on here, the most important thing is to get behind Frank and the team. Fuck Klopp and the red shite, bring it on.

Jimmy Salt
45 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:39:41
Minik, Get yourself down to the Bramley-Moore Dock to see our new home.
Peter Carpenter
46 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:50:55
Welcome, Minik. have a great day.
Barry Rathbone
47 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:57:19
The best policy is to ignore the game completely, find out how many we lost by later, and rejoice in anything better than a 3-goal deficit.

Another Ian Rush vs Glen Keeley debacle is on the cards given the present chasm in ability, spirit and pace between the two clubs. I wouldn't be surprised if we get done by 6.

Raymond Fox
48 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:58:35
Its a derby so you never know.

Taking my blue glasses off we are out gunned, so I expect to lose.
Just hoping for the best with no red cards, anything we can get will be a bonus.

Andrew Ellams
49 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:00:22
Derek @ 41, it's all our own fault.

The awful recruitment and spending policies over the past 5 years have got us in this mess.

Brian Murray
50 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:01:06
Derek post 41. Chelsea can spend what they earn as in having worldwide sponsorships proper marketing in short a proper professional ceo who knows how to earn and get the best deals for their club. Not a kitbag in sight.
Peter Carpenter
51 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:05:38
Oh, Barry. Just when I was working my way into a state of mild optimism.
Mike Corcoran
52 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:16:54
Hope the crowd bring back the mental atmosphere pre and during the match. Take the roof off, give the lads a real boost and frighten the reds.

I would love to see Gana straight back in with Maupay, agree that McNeil may be a better option on the right to hold Robertson down with Gordon on the left in TTA's face. CYOB, time to click.

Jerome Shields
53 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:17:19
I expect Everton to do better than expected. Everton are more solid side than last season. Add to that Top 6 opposition which they always play better against. It could be an interesting derby.
Barry Rathbone
54 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:23:48
Pete 51

Being a slave to fact and history l can cure the dread affliction of optimism in a trice. Our reciprocal arrangement with the RS began with Shankly and is now a common question on Physics A level papers.

Q: "When was Newtons 4th law of motion discovered and what is it?"

A; 1971 semi-final. The discovery that, as Everton get worse, Liverpool get stronger, was confirmed.

Peter Mills
55 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:24:46
Minik #12, have a great trip, enjoy the day, let us know how you get on.
John Pickles
56 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:28:05
Well, with all the defensive additions, we should be able to limit them to less than 9.

Up front we have effectively swapped Richarlison for Maupay, I doubt they are worried about being out-gunned by us. Get in their faces, try to disrupt them and pray for a new hero.

Tony Everan
57 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:28:06
The Barcodes came close to a result, only more very dubious Sky 6 decisions - a dodgy VAR offside and dodgy time added on to the added-on time in injury time stopped them.

We can definitely nick a win. Came close away at Leeds and Brentford with a weaker side than will be available tomorrow so why not?

The make or break tomorrow will be how well our full-backs cope, and how well they are supported. Need to work our socks off in this department.

We've already seen that Gordon is kicking on and the end product is now on its way, I can see him getting into the box and being fouled for a penalty or scoring. Maupay will be fired up and looking to impress on his debut. He can cause problems and force mistakes. Liverpool's defenders have not looked comfortable in a few games when under pressure. Get right at them and force those mistakes.

It's going to be tough and a fight, as usual, but I'm confident we will do well tomorrow and get a point maybe three.


Brian Murray
58 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:28:48
Barry keep hold of your belt n shoelaces we can do them with a fair ref. Newcastle are starting a journey and are at our level for now. They matched them until it was decided to play to midnight to help them shower. Still scarred by that 71 semi final. The look alan ball gave the hopeless rankin when we caved in was the beginning of the end of that decade
Dave Abrahams
59 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:32:19
Jim (19),

You are right, we were giving Liverpool a good game at 1-2 when Coleman made the cock-up and it became 1-3 and game over.

One of the reasons we were giving them a good game after Gray scored our goal was Rondon, yes him, was getting stuck into Van Dijk and worrying and upsetting him until he got injured and went off, not long after they scored that third goal.

Watching Liverpool this season, they struggle when they are pressed, Van Dijk is not the player he was, I think he has lost something physically, so play on him and we might find a goal at least maybe more.

Start Rondon, yes can hear the screams, with instructions to work the bollocks off Van Dije for 45 minutes then set the nuisance from Brighton on him for the second half kicking into Gwladys Street, it could possibly work.

Minik enjoy your debut at Goodison, I hope you have a day you'll remember for the rest of your life very best wishes to the Blue from Greenland!!

Henrik Lyngsie
60 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:33:49
I have heard from a reliable source that Klopp has complained to the Premier League about the schedule.

“Our team is exhausted after playing extra time on Wednesday. Having to play the derby already on Saturday just proves that we are always the victims,” stated Klopp.

Mark Ryan
61 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:37:45
Minik @ 12

Get to the ground a good hour before the game and that way you can walk around the whole stadium and get to see the statues of the Holy Trinity and Dixie. There is a mural photographic timeline around the ground and its great to see where it all started and is well worth a read and will help to build the atmosphere for you. Read the plaques either side of the Dixie statue. The shop is opposite the statue. Give yourself a good solid hour or two at the ground before going in. You won't regret it. I guarantee you'll find it well worth it. Enjoy your first trip. It will stuck in your memory forever. UTFT's

James Marshall
62 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:42:20
Gana hasn't played a match since May so don't expect to see him dropped straight into our first 11 for a derby game as he isn't match fit.

His last game for PSG in the league was way back on the 21st May and he only played 11 minutes of it. The last time he was in the PSG squad at all was for a cup game on the 31st July when he was on the bench and didn't even play.

He hasn't featured in any of their 5 league games this season so he hasn't kicked a ball in anger for getting on for 4 months.

Tom Bowers
63 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:42:35
There are many scenarios as usual but no matter what team we put out we must never overlook the fact that RS always seem to get the rub of the green in these games.

Notwithstanding the fact that on paper they are the better team with far more talent to draw on especially in the scoring department we could indeed get a good result if the referee is up to snuff.

As someone who has seen more Derbies than most I have learnt not to get too excited or over confident about the outcome anymore but it would be great to put one over on them and Klopp.

With three draws on the bounce one hopes we are becoming a more difficult team to beat and I would have liked to have seen this game come around a little later giving the new lads a few games to find their feet.

Hopefully the defending will be strong enough to keep Salah & Co. at bay as we now they can be deadly.

Anthony Flack
64 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:48:00
I’d worry about Davies staying in the pitch for more than 30 minutes if he starts and if he does I’m putting money on him getting booked !

I’d prefer Allan all day long then Davies off the bench or Gueye when he’s knackered

James Hughes
65 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:53:43
First win of the season coming up.
Frank has the team looking cohesive and feisty, not the usual after you mate, to the 50./50 ball. I can see us actually keeping a clean sheet this game.

Scoring goals is still an obvious concern. So I woiuld go with Dave A's suggestion and start Rondon to annoy Saint Virgil and Maupay 2nd half to piss him off further.

Not sure when the last player to score on debut happened but for my ever hopeful soul it's Maupay to get the second as we win 2-0. !

Minik hope you have a great time and go in the Wimslow for a drink


Geoff Lambert
66 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:08:21
I was feeling a tad optimistic after the new signings arrived. Then I took a look at our next eight fixtures. The new guys are going to have to hit the ground running at a super fast pace, or we are going to be in deep trouble before bonfire night is upon us. COYB
Bobby Mallon
67 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:14:00
Geoff 66

We will be ok we will finish 11th this season

Anthony A Hughes
68 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:15:12
I hope we get a 99th minute winner to absolutely piss Klopp off.
I've just walked past Jurgens bar in town to see his ugly, gurning fucking gob on a poster.
If ever a face needed repeatedly slapping over and over then it's his.
Mal van Schaick
69 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:18:03
We did get rid of some dross, some, albeit on loan. We could have wiped the slate clean getting rid of Davies and Holgate.
Leighton Cooper
70 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:30:01
Anthony 68, if only! That Pickford howler/Origi goal still rankles with me, that was well beyond the allotted injury time, much like the Newcastle one the other night.

Never seems to happen for us though against them though, best I can come up from memory was the last-minute Jagielka thunderbolt at Anfield, but that was only an equaliser.

Out of interest, can anyone else remember us ever getting a last-minute winner against them, maybe in the '70s or '60s?

Barry Rathbone
71 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:32:36
Brian 58

Hope you're right of course but I shall ignore the game as usual and watch highlights only if we win. It will be an event that never happened if the usual script gets played out at chez Rathbone.

Bobby Mallon
72 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:34:49
And anyone saying "start Rondon," please watch the Fleetwood game then tell us to start him. He is by far the worst forward I have seen play – total garbage,
Robert Tressell
73 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:37:54
They come into these games totally relaxed - because they know how wound up and desperate we are.

Ancelotti got us in the right frame of mind.

No need to get all Kevin Keegan "Love it if we beat them" about it. Just keep it calm and patient, understand we'll get our chances and play to a plan to frustrate them and exploit some of the weaknesses they have.

Final point, Mal #69. Holgate has been decent this season. Now that Gomes has gone and Iwobi rehabilitated, let's get behind the players.

Tony Hill
74 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:45:32
Leighton @70, David Johnson got a late one for us in the early 70s to win 1-0.
Terry Farrell
75 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:45:35
Minik, you will love the old lady – bring your ear plugs.

Desperate to win this game tomorrow. COYB

Pete Clarke
76 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:47:41
Joe @33,

You're right, mate, we need to be brave and strong against these pricks tomorrow. Coady for the winner just to rub it in. 😁

Talking about being brave, Joe, there's a rumour going around that you have just recently gotten married! 🎉🎉

Congratulations to you both but I hope your new missus knows she'll be sharing your love with the Blues. 🍻🍻
Laurie Hartley
77 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:48:46
Dave # 59, It won't surprise you to hear that I agree with you that we should start Rondon in this game - I would also start Allan because I think it will be too soon to start Gana:

Patterson, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko
Allan, Iwobi, Onana
Gray, Rondon, Gordon

Up the Blues!

Christy Ring
78 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:49:10
I don't believe Gueye will be match fit, not having had a game since last season, and Allan is definitely not fit.

All the negativity towards Davies is unreal, he has done nothing wrong since coming into the side, and complaining about Pickford's time-wasting against Leeds, would it not be better to pick on the opposition instead of our players?

Hope it's four at the back, and Maupay upfront. I wonder will Calvert-Lewin make the bench, back training this week.

Ciarán McGlone
79 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:14:43
Start Rondon... hahahahaahah!!!
Steavey Buckley
80 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:27:04
I am underwhelmed by the transfer activity since the beginning of the new season. Everton still don't look like a balanced side on paper with too many players not match fit.

And the suggestion that Rondon should play tomorrow – who would have great trouble running to catch a bus, so would have great difficulty making any runs to get on to the end to any crosses in tomorrow's game against Liverpool – proves how limited striking options are, which are not a good sign against a Liverpool side who have now begun to find the form of last season.

Kieran Kinsella
81 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:27:46
Robert Tressell,

I agree. Tom isn't some expensive flop; he's a squaddie who does his best but isn't that great. We've got rid of the expensive flops so let's get behind those who remain.

Sean Kelly
82 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:37:21
Steavey #80,

My granny would catch that bus before that useless Rondon and I'm 65 and she would be about 140.

Duncan McDine
83 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:39:04
Minik - I hope your first game is worth the long journey!

My first ever game at Goodison was the 2-0 win over that lot where Danny Cadamateri and Ruddock's arse were the goal scorers… I hope you have an equally happy result. COYB

John Raftery
84 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:47:28
Those criticising Davies are using a tired old script not matched by the evidence of recent performances. I expect Gueye to start tomorrow but also expect Davies to be used at some point from the bench.

Maupay should start and be told to run himself into the ground. He may not last the full game but we need him to give Van Dijk something to think about.

Gerry Quinn
85 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:54:11
John, hopefully Pickford will give van Dick something to think about again!!!!!
Kieran Kinsella
86 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:54:55

Aside from Christy's point about Gueye not having played lately, he and Garner only have one day of training with the team. I presume Frank has been prepping for this game the last two days, '

So, in that respect, I wouldn't be surprised if they start on the bench although I think Gueye is the kind of character we need for this.

Terry Farrell
87 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:59:03

I agree. Tom Davies has been excellent. Committed in the tackle and sharp passing.

Dave Cashen
88 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:22:10
We play our biggest game of the season against hated rivals tomorrow.
I logged on here expecting to see fist-shaking defiance. Vitriol directed at the gobshites. People discussing how we can bring about the downfall of the red bastards.

I should have known better. Once again, one name dominates the thread. One name is mentioned more than all the other players put together. I don't get it! He is a bit part player. A useful freebie. The only reason this willing but limited player is even getting in the squad is that he is braver than all those gutless midfield players we spent £500M on and who have aided our slide into near oblivion.

Coady's diagonals will find their wingbacks out tomorrow. I actually think we have the tools for this one.


Bring me sunshine and don't forget to check out BMD.

Brent Stephens
89 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:35:08
Tom Davies has been playing quite decent stuff of late but after all this time it's clear that's the best he'll be. He might have to make way for a 30-something.
Dave Abrahams
90 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:37:06
Laurie (77),

No, it didn't surprise me about Rondon. I don't think Frank will start him to be honest, mind you he started Gomes against Crystal Palace and that amazed nearly everyone, that didn't end well for Gomes though.

I just hope we beat Liverpool no matter who plays and it won't bother me one bit if Tom Davies plays a part in the game. He has done a lot more good things in his appearances this season than wrong ones but Tom will never please some fans no matter how he plays.

Mark Ryan
91 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:40:01
I'd start Maupay. Rondon is shite.
Dave Abrahams
92 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:47:27
Brent (90),

I owe you 10p from the Blackpool game over Rondon. You can collect it in The Upper Bullens tomorrow before the game. You will recognise me by the security men around me because I'm carrying money, Row J 195.

Just say the words, “Gimme my bleedin' money” and I'll know who you are, otherwise I will give it to the charity of your choice. It is a lot of money so be very careful before making your mind up.

Brent Stephens
93 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:51:49
Dave, what did I bet re Rondon? I don't remember!

It will have to be 10p exactly, Dave. I've adopted your habit of not normally carrying change. And I notice you say "ten pence" - I suspect that's old pennies.

Derek Knox
94 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:56:58
Minik, Just got in from playing Golf, well actually today, didn't realise you hadn't been to Goodison. I have a feeling you will be our talsiman tomorrow, haven't got a Ticket myself but will be glued to the Television and dressed in my kit, well an Everton top, you'd think at seventy plus I would have matured a bit, no chance mate !

Let's give the RS an overdue pounding ! Enjoy your day Minik you will be amongst the best fans around !"

Enjoy !


Dave Lynch
95 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:57:30
Just seen Frank's presser.
He stated Guaye would be in the squad.
He also spoke about strengthening the spine of the team with the midfield players he has brought in.
I can see where he's coming from as our midfield has been weak for soooo long.
Jay Harris
96 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:58:06
First of all can I ask the TomDavies knockers to save it until after the game. It is disheartening to see the lad torn to pieces before a ball has been kicked.

On the game it is a match between a team who struggles to score goals v a team that scores goals for fun so it is not a game for the weak of heart.

Despite their lofty reputation ably assisted by match officials and the administrators they are very beatable this season and I am sure Frank has been doing his homework on Klippetty and his bums.

Tight derbies used to be the order of the day until recent years so I expect a tight game tomorrow with a sneaky win by the odd goal for the Blues.

Shout out to Minik I hope you enjoy your day and it is accompanied by a win.


Brent Stephens
97 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:01:45
Minik, if we win tomorrow, we adopt you as our mascot. Enjoy your day!
Mark Ryan
98 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:12:04
Frank's presser was bemusing to say the least " we could have scored more against Leeds but we didn't? A lot of teams don't play with strikers ? or words to that effect?
Dominic, he's incredible ? I'm not sure anyone who is sane would call DCL "incredible"
When Frank arrived he was a breath of fresh air and was honest. He now appears to be bullshitting. I hope he becomes more honest again. Just say, we look forward to DCL getting fit.
He actually says " I'm very happy, I've got lots of options up front"
Frank, be honest ffs you haven't got lots of options up front if you want to score goals. Knob
Dave Abrahams
99 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:13:05
Brent (93) You don’t remember? Well now that I’ve thought about it I’m getting a mixed up,old age and everything but it’s just come to me, I betted that Gray would score the first goal and you said he wouldn’t but insisted the bet had to be £5 which I reluctantly agreed to. I’ve cancelled the security men but will still see you tomorrow to collect my £5, again reluctantly.
Brent Stephens
100 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:24:33
Will you have change of a £50 note, Dave?

I'm actually getting a wee bit excited about tomorrow. Every game against that lot, we start level. And I reckon we're a bit stronger now than last season.

Brian Murray
101 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:24:58
Apparently gana has added passing to his game so that gives him the nod over tom although if no early cards tom can be a part of kopite curtain call n beat the bastards
Christopher Timmins
102 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:33:17
Same starting eleven as Tuesday with possible exception of Maupay for Gray or McNeil.

Gordon to terrorize Arnold. We can turn them over.

Rick Tarleton
103 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:35:11
I hope and pray that we win. However, no part of my brain sees us on a level to compete with Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and one or two others. I can't honestly see any of our players getting a place in any of the above teams or squads.
Fingers crossed and all that, but a hard- fought draw is the best I can hope for.
Craig Walker
104 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:35:47
Like most derbies, it'll boil down to whether too many of our players have off days, we don't make mistakes and we take any chances that come our way. Oh, and the referee gives us a fair chance.

Apart from last season, our record against them at Goodison was decent. I think Mane's jammy injury time winner under Koeman was the last time they beat us at home prior to last season.

Danny O’Neill
105 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:37:59
I rarely predict results let alone Derbies. Not my favourtie fixture.

Minik, I hope Everton and Goodison make your first visit a memorable one with the stadium literally and visibly shaking at the end with Spirit of the Blues belting out.

I hope Gueye can give us at least an hour and Maupay gets to be a wasp in Van Dijk's ear.

On Davies, I'm not going to claim I've never criticised him or been frustrated with him. I have on both counts. But he's worth a place in this Everton squad. I get what Derek is saying, sometimes the local lads can let their adrenalin get the better of them in this fixture to the point of making them ineffective. Local or not, this fixture, more than any is about controlled aggression and controlling the emotions.

But some rise to the occasion because they understand it. Let's not forget Tom's swivel just outside our own box and near perfect pass into the path of Richarlison to start the move that led to the penalty that clinched the 2-0 win at Anfield under Ancelotti. That was extremely calm play in the cauldron of the Merseyside Derby.

He's not become what many hoped for, but still a decent player who just lacks a bit of confidence and consistency at times.

Oh, go on then. 2-1 Everton. 102nd minute winner. The official desperately trying to play until Liverpool win even though the 4th official only displayed 6 minutes of added on time (there should actually have only been 4, but Henderson had to tie his boot laces, which took 30 seconds).

We break from our own box. Gray picks up the ball 10 yards inside our own half and runs at St Virgil of Anfield, who slips and his halo falls off. One-on-one with the keeper but Gray calmly slots home.

A nervous few minutes as VAR does a quadruple check. Could it have been offside? Was the holier than though Dutchman infringed upon? Was the Liverpool Keeper's line of sight blocked by Pickford in the opposite 6-yard box. Was it the pitch that gave VVD a disadvantage?

No, Not even Stockley Park can get this wrong. The Ref reluctantly points to the centre circle but sends Gray off for crimes against the Premier League.

He knows a 3 match relief of Premier League duties is coming and he's probably at Oldham next week. There will an investigation followed by a cull at Stockley Park. Gray is likely to receive a 6-match ban and Lampard 3 matches in the stands because Klopp refused to shake his hand.

God this fixture really brings the bitter out in me.

Dave Abrahams
106 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:38:56
Brent (100) yes I think Everton are stronger and more resilient with the signings we’ve made in this window so I expect us to let them know they have been in a game.

I too am a bit excited about tomorrow and don’t usually like carrying a lot of money with me but just for you and only for you I will be able to have your change ready for you.

Jay Evans
107 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:58:12
Danny 105, the calm play you refer to from our Tom was in an empty Anfield and not even remotely close to being a cauldron.
Kevin Molloy
108 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:58:13
I know they've done us a million times, but have we ever scored a last minute winner against them?

edit- yes we have but it was disallowed by that guess wonder Graham Poll

Dave Lynch
109 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:58:43
He didn't say teams don't always play with strikers.
He stated teams don't always play with 2 strikers.
Mike Gaynes
110 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:04:27
Minik #12, congratulations! Very happy for you. Enjoy this great moment. My debut was April 2017, and it was one of the highlights of my life.
Alan McGuffog
111 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:17:05
Gosling ?
Christy Ring
112 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:18:04
Minik#12 Hope you have a fabulous experience at Goodison, atmosphere will be electric, and a win against them whinging b. will make you and our day extra special.
Jack Convery
113 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:33:39
Minik, something tells me the Old Lady will smile down on you tomorrow. Enjoy the experience, before, during and after, especially after we win. I'm going 2 nil to the blues - can't believe I've typed that. Coady from a corner and Gordon in the 90th minute, doing a fair impression of Tricky Trev, against Bayern Munich. Oh to see the kopites pour out of Goodison before full time and leave us to enjoy the moment. COYBs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danny O’Neill
114 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:33:40
It was a cauldron from where I was watching Jay and I'm sure that on the pitch it was as competitive. It was the same setting and conditions for both teams.
Kevin Molloy
115 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:36:52
Neil Copeland
116 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:37:05
Dave, best have the security team primed and ready again if you carrying that much change with you.

Looking forward to tomorrow also as we definitely have a mean steak in the team now and it will be interesting to see how the RS cope with that.

If Nunez starts for them what are the odds on him being sent off?

The 4-3-3 used against Leeds has to be the way forward, we looked so much balanced with that formation.

Gueye is a real athlete and Frank may be tempted to start him irrespective of his lack of games played for a while. He will add some real steel to the midfield which will help release Onana and Iwobi more.

Come on blues, make us proud.

Neil Copeland
117 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:39:12
Minik, enjoy your day tomorrow. Start off early and take it all in and as others have said, pay a visit to BMD. I hope your long journey is rewarded.
Dale Self
118 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:42:26
Oh yeah, this is Minik's inaugural match at Goodison innit? Have the time of your adult childhood llfe!
Mike Gaynes
119 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:54:03
I'm more excited about Minik's debut than I am about Maupay's!
Derek Wadeson
120 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:55:58
September 1966 - new signing Alan Ball scores two in a Goodison Park 2-0 victory. How we took him to our hearts.
Sam Hoare
121 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:58:39
For me both Gueye and Maupay come straight in if their even close to fit enough. Both add a bit of experience and snide. Gueye sweeping up will allow Onana and Iwobi to cover much more of the pitch and hopefully cause an issue with their running. McNeill over Gray for me as we will need hi defensive work to help Patterson, Gray can come on against tired legs later on when hopefully we are winning or drawing and they are leaving space. Also McNeill's set pieces are better than anyone else currently.

Patterson Tarkowski Coady Mykolenko
Onana Gueye Iwobi
Mcneill Maupay Gordon

That's a hard-working and canny team that can hopefully frustrate them and then get a chance on the counter or at a set piece.

Joe Digney
122 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:01:58
Thanks Pete mate! We can celebrate over a pint back in the land of oz in the near future, and yes she’s well aware she’s an adopted blue now…. Almost feel sorry for her 😂.
Denis Richardson
123 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:07:34
Lot of people happy with the window but I'd give it a 5/10. Did well in moving on some deadwood (albeit we're still paying a lot of their wages) and adding to the squad but the main issues this side has is scoring goals and creativite quality in midfield.

With only Maupay added we basically only have two forwards in the whole first team squad, and one has missed most of the last 12 months of football through injury and is a question mark as to how may games he'll play. The other is 5ft 6 and not renowned for scoring goals.

Time will tell how they gel together and what our playing 'style' develops to be but the next few games may be quite sobering.

Fingers crossed neither Mayday or DCL get (re)injured!

Dale Self
124 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:09:18
I like Kim's 30 lineup. A 4-3-3 I assume. Truly hoping that Gordon gets to scorch TAA into an early card allowing us to cause them to adjust. Just looking at Onana and Coady last game gives me a reason to believe here. We do need to start having a shot or two outside the box when it's there and have the wingers or full backs coming in for a rebound. Get some corners, force them to deal with Tark and Onana. It's a 4:30am kickoff here, may not get a full sleep before, fucking excited.

Oh, just saw Sam's remark on McNeil's corners. That possibly displaces Gray.

Denis Richardson
125 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:15:12
Sam 121 - team on paper doesn't look too bad but it has 6 new players, 2 making their debuts.

Lampard seems to er on the side of caution so I'd be pleasantly surprised if he starts with that. However, Gueye hasn't played since last season by all accounts, so chucking him in straight into a derby may be a bit harsh. Can see Davies starting myself.

Alan McGuffog
126 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:16:28
Derek 120...you may want to check that. Sandy Brown ?
Anthony Dove
127 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:18:07
Looking forward to the commentary: ‘It's Gana to Garner onto Onana and it's a corner'.
John McFarlane Snr
128 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:30:37
HI Alan [126],

You were right to question Derek's post, Sandy Brown scored in what was a 3-1 victory.

Alan McGuffog
129 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:33:44
John... wasn't it only a couple of weeks after they beat us in the Charity Shield?
John McFarlane Snr
130 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:47:47
Hi again Alan,

Roger Hunt scored the winner in the Charity Shield on 13 August, and the derby game was a fortnight later, 27 August.

Alan McGuffog
131 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:56:17
My all time Everton favourite...the great Ramon, parading the World Cup with Hunt, around the touchline. Heresy I know but I didn't mind Roger. (Puts tin hat on...)
Sam Hoare
132 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:58:33
Denis @125,

Yes, it may depend on how fit Gana is and how sharp in training this week. Not sure Lampard is a big fan of Davies so I reckon he'll be keen to start Gana if he can. We'll see.

David West
133 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:11:03
Put our best 3 in a midfield 3 Onana, Gana, Iwobi for me run their hearts out and we still have legs to bring on, do they? The y have their own midfield problems.

Legs could decide this, if we keep the tempo high, make changes when we tire. Make it ugly, make them rush every pass don't give them a minute and we will have a chance.

The last match at Anfield shows we can put in a shift, now we have a touch of quality to go with it. We need that back 4 to be on form.

No-one's expecting us to get anything so play with some freedom and have a go.

Paul Birmingham
134 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:17:24
Tomorrow is a game of football and with the right belief, Everton can win.

Palace got into them and the Skunks, they don't like teams getting into them.

Show Salad his bad side, target inn between their midfield and centre-backs, and keep composure, Everton can win.

UTFTs, "What's Our Name?"

Kim Vivian
135 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:17:28
Anthony - I like that but concluding with "...it's in the corner,"
Jay Harris
136 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:20:54
"Jurgen, Jurgen, how did you lose this game?"

"Well you see we didnt have the normal arrangement with the match officials to send some of their players off and add 2 hours on at the end and the VAR didn't disallow their 2 goals like we spoke before the game".

"It is so unfair to expect us to play 2 games in a week".

"Yes Jurgen but every other team has to play 2 games in a week"

"Yes, that's my point we are supposed to have an advantage, I didn't demand 5 substitutes so we could be treated the same as other teams, we are supposed to win things!"

"Yes but you lost this one, Jurgen."

"Oh life is so unfair, I even lost some teeeth today and it's all that Lampard's fault, I was ranting down the 4th official's ear when he turned and caught me in the mouth knocking my teeth out, it's just not fair."

Jeff Armstrong
137 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:21:15
Give Gana the first hour instead of the last half hour,

Start Maupey, get the fans onside from the off instead of cautious, risk-averse selections. Go for it instead of overthinking it.

Oh and Frank, give Bingo some abuse from the start. Wind the psychotic smiling nark up to fuck. It's our ground, let them know they're uninvited from the first whistle.

Andrew Ellams
138 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:31:35
Going into this game with a midfielder who's possibly of the pace could be a big risk.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Gana come off the bench to replace Onana who only played his first full 90 minutes on Tuesday.

Bill Gall
139 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:45:12
First congratulations to Lampard and the Director of Football for finally doing something that was mine and others major complaint and that is to strengthen the midfield.

We did not get all what we wanted from the transfer window but, on the other hand, we never spent useless amounts of money to bring in overpriced players.

I am not going to predict the score because I am hardly ever rite, as an Evertonian I know what I would like, but my hope for tomorrow is Do not Lose.

Stan Schofield
140 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:45:57
Barry@54: There's only one Newton's Law of Motion: To every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. (Newton's ‘1st law' is simply a circular statement, and the ‘2nd law' is a quantitative definition of force).

Trouble with Everton is, they have been violating this basic law for far too long in derby games. Here's hoping we can finally start following it under Lampard and the recent new signings.

Raymond Fox
141 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:46:08
Our fullbacks are pretty inexperienced and it may show against class players.

I don't think Gueye will start the game, also I'm doubtful Maupay will start.
The only thing going for us is home advantage, man for man its a mismatch in most positions.

I would dearly love us to win or draw but my head is saying 'nah'.

Christy Ring
142 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:48:00
I don't know if Gueye will start tomorrow considering he hasn't played since last season. Frank will probably assess him in training today, but he looks fit as a fiddle, will probably start Davies who I think Lampard has every confidence in.

I just hope he doesn't go back to 5 at the back, because our midfield is a lot stronger more offensive and has pace now, which was totally lacking, and Frank has addressed that now.

Robert Tressell
143 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:53:24
I would have thought it will be the team that started against Leeds but with Maupay for Gray (possibly McNeil) and possibly Gueye for Davies depending on fitness.

I think McNeil will edge it over Gray because he provides Patterson with good defensive cover.

That's a side that can be compact and resilient without the ball – and carries a goal threat going forwards.

So we should be aiming for a draw and cautiously hopeful of a win.

Paul Birmingham
144 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:54:35

Minik, have a great day and enjoy..

You'll be struck and in a great way, the atmosphere, the fans, thd Old Lady, life will never be the same again.


Will Mabon
145 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:54:45
Minik @ 12:

You couldn't have picked a better match to really "Feel" Goodison, and should we win, you will really feel it to another level.

Hope you have a good seat and view. There can only be one first time; perhaps you'll write an article to share it all.

Derek Knox
146 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:55:44
Jay @ 136,

I know you mean it in jest but I wouldn't be surprised if you accidentally hit the nail on the head there!

Colin Glassar
147 Posted 02/09/2022 at 18:57:26
Stan, the only Newton I know is, Henry Newton. A shining light for Everton and England during some very dark times ie early '70s.

I think we could get twatted tomorrow as this squad still needs time to gel but I'm hoping for a draw.

Mark Ryan
148 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:09:11
Maupay to score the winner, crossed by Gordon. UTFTs
George Cumiskey
149 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:09:18
Colin, don't you mean Keith Newton?
Alan McGuffog
150 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:12:30
I recall Henry Newton being one of the first over-priced mediocre players we started buying from the early '70s on.
Mark Ryan
151 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:13:17
Both brothers for Everton. Saw them play. Jeez how old am I ?
Colin Glassar
152 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:13:56
Errrrmm, I’m a bit confused. Both Keith and Henry Newton played for Everton.
Will Mabon
153 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:15:37
Colin, no Isaac though.
Bill Watson
154 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:19:58
Starting Gueye would be a huge gamble as he hasn't played for months. Any late tackles and he'd be on thin ice. Maupay must start and the question is who steps down. McNeil has a huge work rate but Gray has pace and is always more likely to score. Over to you, Frank!

I think their midfield is very ordinary and Henderson, who makes them tick, is likely to be missing, too. We just need to avoid silly early yellow cards.

Andy Meighan
155 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:28:07
I'm with Colin 147. I think we could get twatted. Regardless of who's missing for them, I still think they'll be too strong for us. A draw I'd be happy with a win, delirious.
Oliver Molloy
156 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:41:32
I just listened to Lampard on Radio 5 live talking about tomorrow's game and the club in general.

There is no doubt this man gets the club, our history and what we want as fans.
He is very impressive when speaking to the media.

I have my doubts if he is the man, but I really like the guy – his honesty in what lies ahead and the rebuild we are on is a breath of fresh air.

Nothing would please me more to see him transform Everton, starting tomorrow.

David West
157 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:57:06
Oliver, I agree about him. He comes across as honest, not playing any mind games with the players, tells it how he sees it.

Just hope it's not all the shitehawk managers we have had in last few years making Frank look like the dog's bollocks.

I hope we get a result tomorrow to kick our season on.

Dale Self
158 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:59:49
I'm with that, Oliver. I gave Frank a lot of shit last season largely out of an old Carlo score to settle but definitely am getting behind him now.

As I've said, he doesn't line them up or select them how I would but he definitely is a good fit for the club right now. We need belief and fight as much as we need tactics or game management.

Frank will figure out how to deploy the subs but we will probably go through a phase where we get in good positions but do not hold the lead; that will be solved.

I have such a decent feeling about the chap that I won't even emphasize that he is a good foil against Moshiri. It will be up and down, but more up than down and for some reason, I get the feeling that this is a squad that will support each other and grow under Frank's tutelage.

Dave Abrahams
159 Posted 02/09/2022 at 19:59:53
Colin (152),

Both Newtons never hit it off at Everton. Keith was an English international full-back bought from Burnley, Henry was a midfielder bought from Nottm Forest but played a lot of games at full-back.

If Henry was a shining light when he played for Everton, they must have taken the batteries out when I saw him... and Keith never fared any better.

Tony Hill
160 Posted 02/09/2022 at 20:01:10
Oliver @156,

I've changed (and keep changing) my view on this but Lampard seems to me to have something rather special about him. He has the winner's knack, the indefinable capacity to stay ahead of the scythe.

It may not look like it just now but I suspect we have the right man already.

Steavey Buckley
161 Posted 02/09/2022 at 20:17:26
The team that was built around Alan Ball fell apart after winning the league in 1970. The World Cup in Mexico did not help preparations for the 1970-71 season that eventually saw Alan Ball sign for Arsenal.

During this period, when Alan Ball was transferred to Arsenal, the Everton successful winning team of 1970 went their own ways, while Harry Catterick looked for replacements, especially for Alan Ball. But none were found, and Harry Catterick soon after left the manager's job.

Everton went into years of finding the right manager and the right winning formula, which they did in 1984 through the management skills of Howard Kendall. The long road back to recovery took so long because Harry Catterick sold one of the most important players in Everton's history, Alan Ball.

Dave Abrahams
162 Posted 02/09/2022 at 20:18:38
Nobody has mentioned James Garner playing tomorrow …is he illegible?
Mark Ryan
163 Posted 02/09/2022 at 20:23:13
Dave @ 161in his presser today, Frank suggested that whilst he saw Gueye as a player for now he saw James as a player for the future.

Now that said he was implying that James will be with us longer term and would develop at Everton but he didn't commit either way as to whether he would be involved tomorrow really.

Anthony A Hughes
164 Posted 02/09/2022 at 20:33:37
I like Lampard. Yes he's not tactically the best coach in the world but his passion is there to see and he genuinely gets our club.
I hope to see him grow with us as a coach because his man management skills are excellent
Oliver Molloy
165 Posted 02/09/2022 at 20:48:23
David, Dale, Tony.
I am of the same mind, and I did question his management potential last season ( I still do to be fair ), but I really want him to succeed.
The road we are on now is looking for young players that will make us better and we can make money on when they attract interest.
The squad Lampard and Thelwell are assembling will be in no doubt what it means to wear our jersey - that is coming from Lampard and his coaching team.
The form and effort of Iwobi under Lampard is remarkable ( hope i'm not jinxing him ) and I have been questioning recently the fee we paid for McNeil, but I never realised he is only 22 so I am hopeful we have bought a player that will get better.
Jesus lads if we could just win tomorrow what a lift it would be for the everyone.
As always i'm hoping for any luck going.
John Williams
166 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:03:14
Keith Newton played for Blackburn Rovers.
At Everton he played at both right and leftback and was in
the England squad in the 1970 World Cup. He played in one
game at leftback with Tommy Wright at rightback.
Everton had 5 players in that England squad.
Sadly, Keith passed away at fairly young age.
Henry Newton came from Notts Forest and was a classy
wing half, but Everton often played him at fullback.
Again, he was an English international.
Kieran Kinsella
167 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:11:20

I have never seen his handwriting so can't comment.

Geoff Lambert
168 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:12:09
One win in 23 against the RS that is a pathetic return for any team. Need to stop this rot tomorrow. 2-1 to the mighty blues. COYB.
Neil Copeland
169 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:18:03
Kieran 😆

Come on blues, we need to paint the city blue again. Put the RS T***s to the sword. Need to show them the blue steel tomorrow.


Dave Abrahams
170 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:24:46
Mark (163) Thanks for that Mark wasn’t sure if he was registered or not.

Kieran (167) Yes used the wrong word, lol. At least he’s not illiterate I saw him signing on for us!!

John (166) Yes Keith Newton came from Blackburn Rovers and left Everton for Burnley, Henry, as you say was a wing half but not sure that he ever played for England.

Martin Mason
171 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:36:07
I hope that this doesn't come across as negative but I'd say that we are very unlikely to get a result tomorrow against a very strong Liverpool side. I'll be over the moon even with a point but very happy with a good performance that gives promise for games to come against clubs in our peer group. I'll be unhappy if we show no improvement over the end of last season. For some reason I believe that some of the new signings won't be just thrown in. We are going places and it isn't via the relegation road.
Bernie Quinn
172 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:36:30
Well the battle starts tonight at 11.30pm.(NZ time) I still feel that we will win 2-1, but this IS a Derby, so hard to predict a result and a draw could be on the cards. I agree with you Sam, that we should start with Gana and Moupay, but we do have a decent squad at last.

But I confess to having the colly-wobbles and I really wish I had you beside me tonight Christine to hold my hand. and sit between me and my wife -- she supports the other lot. more fool her!!

Ken Kneale
173 Posted 02/09/2022 at 21:48:20
Dave I agree, I don't recall Henry Newton gaining a full cap.

Both arrived as potentially good signings as I recall Keith lost Harry Catterick's confidence and Henry was used to plug gaps in an ailing team.

Sadly Harry's health and consequently vigour wained at the same time the team needed him post the World Cup. The rest is a story of how the foundations of where we are today came to pass

John McFarlane Snr
174 Posted 02/09/2022 at 22:00:30
HI Mark 151] Henry Newton and Keith Newton were certainly not brothers.
Hi Dave[170] you're correct in thinking that Henry Newton never played for England at senior level, although he did represent the England under 23s and the Football League.
Peter Mills
175 Posted 02/09/2022 at 22:14:37
Keith Newton was a right back, who we played on the left.

Henry Newton was a midfielder. So we accommodated him by playing Howard Kendall centre back (for one game, which we lost 4-0).

And people come on here talking about square pegs in round holes. It’s been going on for a while!

Kieran Kinsella
176 Posted 02/09/2022 at 22:15:20
Wasn't there a fellow named Fig Newton?
Ken Kneale
177 Posted 02/09/2022 at 22:19:29
Peter, I touched on Harry's health - such decisions as you outline demonstrate that his decision-making by this time was affected by his health and the pressure he was under.

If we had come through the post-1970 league win and World Cup hangover in better shape, I doubt we would be in the doldrums we find ourselves for the past 30 years

Jeff Armstrong
178 Posted 02/09/2022 at 22:39:58
Ken 177,Dave 170, hindsight is a wonderful thing as they say, but do you both think Harry C went on a season or two too long? Should we have employed Bobby Robson in 71-72 ? Anyone else in the picture back then?
I was 8 or 9 back in the day and my dad loved Catterick but I’d love to hear a different perspective as the RS just went on and on from that 71 semi final when we scored first, it just went tits up in that second half and apart from 84-87 it’s been the same ever since, we’ve never really recovered fully from that second half at Old Trafford have we ?
They, however have never looked back.
I remember that day so vividly.
Stan Schofield
179 Posted 02/09/2022 at 22:48:08
Keith Newton was a very good left back for us, acquitting himself well in taking over from Ray Wilson. He was in the team that won the 69-70 league title.

Henry Newton was fairly good, but by that time we were a shadow of the late 60s side, having sold Alan Ball and destroyed arguably the best midfield in the world (on a par with Brazil’s).

Everton have been selling our best players at the drop of a hat ever since, and have generally buggered about in terms of any real ambition to win major trophies.

Alan McGuffog
180 Posted 02/09/2022 at 23:03:26
I think Keith Newton joined us in the never to be forgotten 69 - 70 season. I seem to think 🤔 he was by nature a right back but we had Tommy there. So he was played on left but had a bad injury and the criminally underrated Sandy Brown filled in for much of the run in the the league title. Sandy had the last laugh after THAT incident in the Derby in December 69.
Ken Kneale
181 Posted 02/09/2022 at 23:03:34
Jeff John Moores is on record as saying he should have replaced Harry sooner but in hindsight, after working with and respecting the man for a decade, ever for a ruthless businessman, a difficult call

Robson nearly did come but a mysterious 'leak' denied by all involved to their grave scuppered the move as I recall

As you say, maybe history would have been different but who really knows? Would we have hit the heights of the mid 80's without Howard.

Colin Glassar
182 Posted 02/09/2022 at 23:35:31
I knew one of the Newton’s was good (Keith). Didn’t he have great hair and sideboards (burns)? I think we missed the boat with their cousin, Wayne Newton, who went on to have a great career in Las Vegas.
Tony Dunn
183 Posted 02/09/2022 at 23:36:06
Kieran, I think you're thinking of Syrup, a mate of Andy Meighan s ? Minnik, have a great weekend, great club and city to visit
Jeff Armstrong
184 Posted 02/09/2022 at 23:55:02
Colin, Henry had great hair and sidies, but Keith was a proper player, who the fuck Wayne was is anyone’s guess??
Jeff Armstrong
185 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:01:07
Good point Ken, I think HK was destined for us from when Cattterick signed him in 67, the next 25 years was a love affair.
Jamie Lenard
186 Posted 03/09/2022 at 00:11:59
2-1 Everton. VVD to score an own goal in Kloppidge Time
Nicolas Piñon
187 Posted 03/09/2022 at 00:32:21
I would drop Davies and McNeil for this one.

With the absentees they will have (alcantara, henderson, keita), we must have an energetic team all round and we have a chance. McNeil service is awesome but for this one we need to never stop running and I see Maupay better suited for that than McNeil. Also I would probably drop Davies probably because of that. Iwobi Patterson and Onana wound never stop running and Allan (although Ill doubt hell start) is a very inteligent player and has a winners attitude. I think we need him for these derbies and more to have some experience beside so many young players, someone who can guide and not always go forward.

Someone said our inexpert fullbacks may show the raw they are against top opponents and that may happen. But Gordon will get plenty of chances too to show his talent and I'm looking forward to that. I don't know how long ago Garner hasnt played, but if hes kind of fit I would probably play him. Or put coleman in defense and Patterson in right midfield. Experience (seamus) and energy/speed/hunger (nathan) to control luis diaz.

We have options, finally!

would love to see:


Coleman, coady, tarkowsky, mykolenko;

Patterson, Onana, Allan/iwobi, iwobi/gray;

Gordon and Maupey.

it looks kind of defensive but I think that team has balance and could at least take it 0-0 to 60 minutes. And then, let the magic flow Anthony.


Bob Parrington
188 Posted 03/09/2022 at 02:11:23
Other than a win I'll be happy if we come out of this without injuries! Don't trust them one bit.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
189 Posted 03/09/2022 at 04:19:08
I’m feeling good because there seems to be so much positivity here on TW. I don’t make predictions but I’m needing a win because every derby we lose I have to pay up a bet of tater tots and Guinness to my good RS supporting friend. Damn it I want to drink and eat free fried food this time around.

With a stronger rejuvenated midfield, Gordon finding the net, Coady and Tarkowski finding their feet, Patterson and Onana growing with every match — and with no Origi on the pitch — I think there’s a good chance we get points tomorrow. COYB!

Jerome Shields
190 Posted 03/09/2022 at 05:59:57
I expect Davies to start. He has played. Going on Frank's previous selection I think it will be a false Number nine again, with Maupay coming on later. Basically the same selection as the Leeds game. Concerned about the timing of substitutions though, if the his is the case. Maybe Frank like us all will want to see what Maupay has got and start him after all, some players may need tested after a midweek game.
Mal van Schaick
191 Posted 03/09/2022 at 06:42:16
Going for 1-0 Everton Gray to score. The ref may be a problem in this game. Anthony Taylor. So, we are playing against twelve.
Mike Gwyer
192 Posted 03/09/2022 at 07:40:39

Keep it tight, press their defence at all times and let Gordon give their back line the same shit he gave them at Anfield, their back 4 did nothing but hack him down.

Hopefully Klipperty will play Nunez which Tarky and Coady will take full advantage of..

Tony Shelby
193 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:05:31
It’s OK Blues. This is the Shite’s fallow year where they don’t take their special ‘chronic asthma’ medicine.

It means that they’re there for the taking.


Andy Meighan
194 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:10:13
Tony 183. I've got feelings you know mate, I'm not made of wood.
Eddie Dunn
195 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:23:04
Frank is inherently cautious so I expect Gana to start on the bench and perhaps come on for Onana, when the big lad tires on the hour. Davies, we all know is an honest plodder- it's not his fault and he will do his best as he always does.
I fullt expect us to compete with them all over the park but I still wonder how we are going to score more than one goal, and I think we will need to if we want to win.
Just don't lose!
Minik -have a great day!
Kevin Molloy
196 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:26:23
as it looks like we're going with a back 4 (why would you bring Keane in for this) I reckon we need two sitting midfielders. As such, if Gueye can possibly play I would throw him in. I'd also bench Onana. He's v young and still getting used to the league. If he found the press at villa heavy going, he's not ready for the derby. they will have a strategy to target him in the first half an hour, best take him out of that and bring him on on the hour mark for Tom. And I'd play McNeil ahead of Gray (another good sub) to take care of TAA

If we fancy a win we need two clear goals, and if we want a draw we need to take the lead.

Justin Doone
197 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:33:42
Simple honest hope. Avoid a derby drubbing, a colossal loss, a men vs boys performance.

Then whatever the score, celebration or commiseration, move on quickly.

Be strong, be decisive, be good and full concentration please.

Goodison faithful, be loud and sing your hearts out!

Brian Murray
198 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:33:47
stating the obvious but klopp and sky obviously need reminding. We need a normal ref and to do ourselves justice. Have that and we have a chance.
Bill Griffiths
199 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:42:39
Just going off topic a moment, I've just read that The Telegraph is reporting that Everton and three other clubs have been given permission to talk to Dan James of Leeds regarding season long loan.
Don't know if there's anything to this but think he would be a useful addition if it did happen
Brian Murray
200 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:44:18
Justin. As others have shown they are no man city and we are no bolton wanderers. We can beat these.
Kevin Molloy
201 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:46:29
I can't get my head around what it would be like if your first game at Goodison is the derby. it's such a culture shock seeing Liverpool striding around 'Goodison with malice aforethought at the best of times, but first game the mind boggles.
Ray Roche
202 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:46:56

Colin, if you’re thinking ‘shining light’ from a midfielder in those days, are you confusing Henry Newton with Martin Dobson? Now he was classy.

Brian Murray
203 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:50:34
Henry newton was another dud. Played good at derby even won a title I think.. Same as bruce rioch blistering shot at derby we hardly saw it here. Plus newton had a nightmare in collapse at anfield when we was two up.
Luke Welch
204 Posted 03/09/2022 at 08:59:27
I got a good feeling about today and think if anything character will be on display.
Danny Baily
205 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:00:33
Got a feeling we'll do these today.
Hugh Jenkins
206 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:15:23
Kieran (176) "Fig Newton", is a fictitious private investigator in the "Rumpole of the Bailey" series of books.
James Marshall
207 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:22:33
"I'm not going to go around and just be his best mate and high five him.“ - James Tarkowski on Darwin Nunez

That'll do.

Dave Abrahams
208 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:23:18
Jeff (178), yes of course looking back Harry Catterick should have been replaced once his health left him in a serious condition and as Ken Kneale says (181) Bobby Robson was being brought in, he had accepted the job on condition he was given time to inform Ipswich Town he was leaving, someone at Everton broke that condition.

Going back to the game at Old Trafford, Harry was too I'll to go with the team and after the midweek loss to the Greeks in the European Cup the morale was low, boosted by a goal by before half time scored by Alan Ball we seemed ready to come back but an injury to Brian Labone put an end to that.

Regarding Keith Newton, that injury he received certainly didn't help him because he never played many times for Everton n the times he was here.

John Williams
209 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:23:30
When Henry Newton came to Everton, the fee was reported
to be £150,000 plus Tommy Jackson going the other way.
Only two players had cost more, Martin Peters and Alan Clarke.
When he went to Derby a couple of years on, the fee was
reported to be £110,000.
Stale Haverstadlokken
210 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:28:08
I'm more optimistic after a decent transfer window. With new faces, pluss leaders like Coady and Tarkowski, we should get at least a point. Fingers crossed mates!
Si Miles
211 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:31:25
Come on you blues, good time to claim our first 3 points UTT
Si Miles
212 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:31:25
Anyone use any good streaming sites they would recommend, BT's Subscription is a rip off.
Brian Murray
213 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:37:31
I'm sure Andy Johnson, Dan Gosling and Tim Cahill have grandkids by now. It's getting ridiculous, surely this is our day.
Derek Knox
214 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:39:54
Bill @ 199, Foremost I didn't think any deals could be done until the next window! I remember when Dan was at Swansea, and seemed to be a great prospect @ £10M if memory serves.

Of course, Manure 'snapped him up' (?) from a neutral perspective when I saw highlights of Man Utd games he seemed to have carried on from Swansea, and even plundered a few goals.

I was a tad surprised when United only played him sparingly and eventually went to Leeds, where again, he seemed to be okay when I saw Leeds play, again in highlights. Which beggars the question, why have 3 Clubs wanted to move him on mid-contract?

Another thing, but slightly off topic I have arranged another TW Get Together at Bramley Moore Pub on 18 September (West Ham Game 14:00) so people can watch the game and hopefully be joined by match-goers after. I know it's not the easiest to get to at present,, but feel to make ourselves known to the Manager, (Angela) could pay dividends when the New Stadium opens.

I have asked the Ed's to post it and even sent a reminder, but nothing has appeared yet in General Forum and time is running down. I know there has been a lot of activity in Transfers to report on this week so maybe it has taken a back seat. I know you will be there, not missed one yet, but be great to see you and the other regulars there, plus a few new faces.

It's not like we have these every month, in fact it is a year since the last one. We have a special guest this time too, John Hall from the Philippines is over for a few weeks. He is a Liverpool lad and has supported us since childhood, so it would be nice to have a good turn out to meet up.

Terry Farrell
215 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:42:28
Bill he is a headless chicken and we have far better widemen than him. Leeds letting him go tells you all you need to know. Need a decent striker in Jan window
Rob Halligan
216 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:51:34
Plenty of sledging by tarky and Coady on Nunez, and sooner or later he will snap and send the head in on one of them!
Kim Vivian
217 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:53:02
Isn't Nunez suspended after the red card head butt?
Andy Walker
218 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:54:17
As long as we don’t play anyone in midfield who spends most of his time on the pitch jogging around a second or two behind the play, looking lost and out of his depth.
Rob Halligan
219 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:55:05
No Kim, he’s served his three match suspension.
Andy Walker
220 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:56:37
Tony 193, I wish we could win 9-0 in one of our many fallow years.
Colin Glassar
221 Posted 03/09/2022 at 09:58:42
I supported Martinez as far as I could. I supported Ancellotti through thick and thin. I wanted Silva to succeed as I saw a proper manager in him but injuries and the board conspired against him. The other managers were journeymen/mercenaries.

I like what I see and hear from Lampard. Let’s give him time, and resources, to build his team. It might take a season or two but I feel we are now on the right track and we will no longer be a pushover for anyone. We might lose today but that doesn’t change anything. Time and patience is essential.

And shame on you who don’t recognise Wayne Newton! After Elvis and Tom Jones he was the biggest act on the Las Vegas strip. He was better than both Henry and Keith. Singing, that is.

Kunal Desai
222 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:00:16
Hopefully we put in a performance today. I'm not expecting us to get anything from the next two fixtures so any points are a welcome bonus. As long as there are signs to show we are competitve and moving in the right direction that'll do for now.
Dave Downey
223 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:00:29
Another drubbing awaits. The mediocrity of every new signing sums our ambition up. And then Arsenal away, so possibly bottom of the league again by next Monday and then Frank'll be packing his bags. At least two more managers before we get to BMD I reckon.
Kim Vivian
224 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:06:05
Rob - yep of course! I was forgetting that the league played, like, 3 games in 9 days or some such. That's a bummer really but as you say Tarka and Coady, and the rest of the lads actually, can wind him up. I don't see any shirkers in that role in the squad these days tbh.
Brian Murray
225 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:08:26
Dave. You have put me on a right downey. coyb
Derek Knox
226 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:09:13
Andy @ 218, pretty accurate on Bette Davies, but Gomes has gone to Lille, and the donkeys at Blackpool, are missing him already ! :-)

If Tom hadn't scored that goal against City where we won 4-0, I truly believe he would be now playing for Skateboarder Rovers !

Ray Roche
227 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:16:45
Dave Downey @223

Christ, you must be a bundle of laughs to go the match with. Is being a miserable get natural or do you have to work at it? Just askin'...

Bill Fairfield
228 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:22:08
Lampard has put in a solid foundation, something to build on. Looking forward to the game later with optimism. COYB.
Anthony Murphy
229 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:23:32
Their options up front will probably be the difference but Gordon is full of confidence right now so just needs that gap to run into. I’m saying 1-1 with us hanging on for a point.
Bill Watson
230 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:32:18
Derek #214

If we have enough numbers maybe Angela will open the upstairs bar for us?? Good view over B-M Dock.

Trevor Peers
231 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:40:17
Frank changed to a 4-3-3 formation for the Leeds game, we pressed hard and it looked 100% better. We actually competed for 90 minutes!

If we do the same today we have got a chance of getting something out of the game, anything less or reverting to five at the back and we will get battered 4-0. Good luck lads COYB.

Jeff Armstrong
232 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:44:47
I fancy us 2-1 today, don’t know why but I just do.
Tony Hill
233 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:47:58
Jeff@232, the number of times I’ve said that to myself down the decades against the RS. Never seems to come true.
Brian Murray
234 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:49:31
var don’t check decisions they check the club badge first
James Hughes
235 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:56:46
I haven't seen any post from our Bard George recently, hope you're well mate
Derek Knox
236 Posted 03/09/2022 at 10:57:58
Aye Bill W, the upstairs room, that is more or less a given, but the crux is getting the numbers, I know you always attend too, even if it means just going out of your way for a once a year one-off. Admittedly even getting off at Sandhills it is a fifteen (pleasant) walk, weather permitting, and a chance to see the shoots of regeneration in that area, (much needed btw).

By the time the Stadium is finished it will be a totally different area altogether. The other alternative is a Taxi share, and at the end of the evening Angela or her staff will generally phone a taxi. I was in Sunday evening as The Danny was moored behind the United Utilities Plant and adjacent to our new home. Hell of a walk through the Dockyard though to get out, only to walk all the way back again on the main road.

It was actually heaving in there, as there was a Charity Football Event with many attending, seats were almost at a premium. All very friendly and accommodating. I noticed (just) on the way back to the ship, that other businesses and another bar (Royal Crest Hotel) had opened. Look forward to seeing you there mate !

Nick Page
237 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:01:37
From the BBC preview. More proof if ever needed that this lot are in league with dark forces.

“Liverpool have scored 40 winning goals in the 90th minute in the Premier League, 12 more than any other side.”

They’ve won 1PL vs other multiple title winners esp Man Utd. So why do they call it Fergie time?

Mark Ryan
238 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:04:59
2 -1 to the Toffees. A time for cool heads Mr Tark and Mr Coady. No reds please. Become heroes boys
Tony Abrahams
239 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:09:32
So many people predicting a 2-1 victory for Everton, but we haven’t scored two goals all season!
Brian Murray
240 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:19:22
in winslow at mo, they sing super kev ffs he’s a grandad by now let’s do it now
Brian Hennessy
241 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:20:45
You are right Tony#239. I'm going for 3-1 Everton after a Rondon hat-trick.
David Hallwood
242 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:28:36
Personally l'd play 532 with Coleman sweeping up behind Cody and Tark because of their lack of pace.

But we've got to have 3 in midfield, and I'd go for the 3 that started vs Leeds. People calling for gana to start, are a bit nuts, he hasn't played a competitive game since May.

But onto Davies; interesting post match comments by Lampard, that everyone played to instructions, and that's what Davies does, sits in front of the back 4 and transitions the ball, nothing fancy or eye catching, just pop, pop, pop, to confuse the press.

I know people don't like him and when gana, Garner and Duke get up to speed he'll be way down the pecking order. But if he starts to FFS watch what he does

Derek Knox
243 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:31:05
Brian H @241, A Rondon Hat Trick (unless he's playing for Venezuela) is akin to Rocking Hurse Dung ! :-)
Rob Hooton
244 Posted 03/09/2022 at 11:56:54
Danny, 105 - had me in stitches there mate!

Really excited for this, even if the odds are stacked against us. We will have a decent and competitive midfield when everyone is fit, with Duke back in training now. Hopefully DCL will be back soon too, Frank is right - the spine of the team is a lot stronger after this is transfer window.

I’m going with our Gordon to carry on scoring, hope he keeps his head for this one and doesn’t do anything rash. I wish people would leave Davies alone, he’s done nothing wrong and we all know his limitations but he is a tidy player.


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