Manchester United vs Everton

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A bruised and vulnerable Everton travel to Old Trafford this evening to take on the relative might of Manchester United in the 3rd Round of the FA Cup.

The Blues come into the tie reeling from a heavy home defeat by Brighton on Tuesday night that was underpinned by a shockingly inept performance that has placed manager Frank Lampard’s future at the club under grave threat.

The former Derby and Chelsea boss, who has overseen just three wins in the Premier League, saw a completely changed team go down heavily at Bournemouth in the Carabao Cup in November and his abysmal record of results has left the club sitting in the bottom three of the division.

Tonight’s Cup tie could offer immediate respite and provide the manager breathing room ahead of another vital home fixture against fellow strugglers, Southampton, or it could hasten his departure from Goodison and throw Everton into fresh turmoil.

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Indeed, some newspaper reports have suggested that the tie against United will carry a significant amount of weight with the club’s hierarchy while others claim that it’s the upcoming games against Saints and West Ham that will be pivotal.

Lampard might have planned to make changes to his side for this one regardless but he will be forced into at least one after Nathan Patterson was ruled out for six weeks with a knee injury.

He will almost certainly be replaced by Seamus Coleman in what could revert to a back five featuring Ben Godfrey, while Amadou Onana is likely to return after serving a one-game ban against the Seagulls.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin is a doubt after coming away from the Brighton defeat feeling “fatigued” having played the majority of that game and the draw at Manchester City four days earlier, while Anthony Gordon is still doubtful has he nears his recovery from illness.

Depending on how much Lampard feels he needs to get a result from this one, he might not even hand Asmir Begovic a “cup keeper” role, preferring to keep first-choice stopper, Jordan Pickford, in the line-up.

It’s 28 years since the Blues last won a major trophy and, on the current form of the respective sides, there is little to suggest that Everton’s participation will go beyond the first hurdle of the FA Cup this season.

United have won nine of their last 10 games in all competitions and are back in contention among the top four of the Premier League, with Erik ten Haag’s feet now firmly under the table at Old Trafford.

But in a one-off cup tie and the magic of this particular competition, anything is possible. Lampard insisted in his press conference that he is up for the fight and has seen improvements in his team that might not be superficially obvious to outsiders or yet translating into results.

He will need his players to step up in a big way in the next couple of weeks, starting in United’s self-styled “Theatre of Dreams”.

Kick-off: 8pm, Friday 6 January 2023
Last Time: Everton 1 - 2 Man United (FAC SF, Apr 2016)

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Coady, Godfrey, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, Gray, Maupay


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Danny O’Neill
1 Posted 06/01/2023 at 06:57:50
I don't want to start on a negative and I totally understand fitness and how it can impact elite sports people.

But fatigue?

I've been up since 5:30am, will work until this afternoon before catching a flight to Manchester and get home as early as I can tomorrow morning.


I'm probably being too simplistic, but that touched a nerve.

Jim Bennings
2 Posted 06/01/2023 at 07:04:44
I think Calvert-Lewin is shot now as a Premier League centre forward.

No other club would be so reliant on a striker that can't play games of football anymore, and I sympathize with his injury, I really do, but we just bury our heads in the sand at this club, don't we?

Sean Roe
3 Posted 06/01/2023 at 07:05:28
Lampard is still in charge which means absolutely no chance of winning this and even less chance of beating Southampton when the pressure is intensified.
Kenn Crawford
4 Posted 06/01/2023 at 07:05:46

They don't know the meaning of hard work.

Last season I played in the UK was 1973-74 as a semi pro, I played 60 games and worked as a plumber, never mind training as well. I then came to Australia and trained and played in 40 degree heat… ‘fatigue’ — what is that???


Colin Glassar
5 Posted 06/01/2023 at 07:13:28
I'm “fatigued“ reading about Everton… but tonight, expect the unexpected.
Gary Johnson
6 Posted 06/01/2023 at 07:21:25
Sean @ 3,

Whilst I would never, in a million years, under any circumstances want us to lose a game… I fear we'll sneak through tonight, then on another utterly false wave of unfounded optimism get beat by both Southampton and West Ham to leave us dead bottom as the window closes and too far adrift to get back out.

The predicted line-up is depressingly obvious. The fatigue excuses Danny highlights are too depressingly familiar and indicative of our club's approach.

Any self-respecting manager would drop nearly every single player from the last game, and not fuck over the 21-year-old kid we just took out of a team he was flying in.

Pointless suggestion with this Meat and Two veg muppet manager, but IF it were me:

Holgate Mina Tarkowski Godfrey
Price Onana Doucoure
Mills Simms Gray

Neil Lawson
8 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:18:47
Gary 6.

"Depressingly obvious”. Absolutely. On current form and given that Man Utd"s players are better than ours all over the pitch, they should win.

It is no disgrace to lose to the better team provided that your performance has been the best you can possibly give. So 5 at the back yes. Coleman obviously not least for his commitment and leadership. Mina for his " nastiness" too perhaps.

But in front of them? Leave out most of the usual suspects. They don't deserve to play. Price was one of the first subs on Tuesday so start him. Get Onana playing where he is most effective. Only Gray deserves to remain.

If Calvert-Lewin is not starting, then it must be Simms or Cannon but don't leave them isolated. If we are going to lose, then do so battling to the end. Give us something to cheer and get behind.

Who knows? From the edge of the precipice may just emerge some unexpected seeds of hope.

Lee Courtliff
9 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:22:01
With 30 years plus of experience being hopelessly devoted to this shambles, I'm actually more concerned about Southampton next week than Man Utd tonight...and not because of the different competitions.

I absolutely hate playing a team who are on a losing run, like Southampton are, because we all know what will happen! Just like when we come up against a striker who is waiting for his first goal of the season at a new club.

It's as though we bend over backwards to accommodate them, we just can't help ourselves.

Anyway, onto tonight and it's obviously got to be 5 at the back and play for a counter or set-piece. Come on Blues!!

Jonathan Tasker
10 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:29:09
Calvert-Lewin is League One.

Everton is a disease

Joe McMahon
11 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:34:06
Jim, he was never going to be the prolific all round scorer people thought he was anyway.

Lee, 100% agree.

Paul Hewitt
12 Posted 06/01/2023 at 08:35:54
I'd happily take losing tonight if it meant Lampard got sack. Short term pain, long term gain.
Tom Bowers
13 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:34:44
This game is practically meaningless given the dire Premier League position.

With players out injured, it is time to blood some more youngsters as they cannot possibly do any worse than what we have seen this season.

We are getting more and more ''sick note'' players.
Patterson again, Calvert-Lewin and Mina after finally getting Godfrey back. What a mess!

Nothing up front to trouble any team, let alone Man Utd.

Anything down the transfer pipeline? (I guess not...)

Christine Foster
14 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:46:08

'Fatigue' – my backside. In the two games, he made a total of 12 passes and 4 clearances... he has an average on target shooting accuracy of 22%, no assists, no crosses and one tackle.

Obviously not up to speed, only played 70 minutes and 83 minutes respectively. More than that, he is obviously missing a pair as well... he has just had a 6 week lay-off to get fit.

Drop him Frank.

Pat Kelly
15 Posted 06/01/2023 at 09:54:33
We don't do Cups.

Tonight's inevitable defeat will have no bearing on Lampard's future. It's not a game the hierarchy would expect us to win. I doubt there's any games left anyone expects us to win.

Defeat against Southampton may be the final straw. A win or a draw might string out the inevitable a bit longer. The so-called Board is clueless and the owner is in the wind.

Lynn Maher
16 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:23:33
Danny @1 and Christine @14

We were at the match, and I said to my husband "They most probably won't have to wash his kit, because I don't think he even broke into a sweat."

Dave Williams
17 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:42:55

I usually think you are a bit harsh concerning Calvert-Lewin but not this time. To be doubtful due to fatigue after 2 hours of action is pathetic and hopefully that didn't come from the player himself.

Whilst the outcome tonight doesn't really matter given our Premier League placing, it is vitally important to restore a bit of respect. I was given a very nice EFC hoodie at Christmas by my daughter which I have not yet worn as I am embarrassed to be seen out in it!

We need to pick a team which will fight like hell rather than give up at the first sign of trouble, like we did against Brighton. Leaving Godfrey out was a bad decision but Frank is entitled to feel very let down by his players, who were just pitiful and an embarrassment to themselves, the club and its marvellous supporters.

Throwing a load of youngsters in tonight would be reckless albeit so tempting but Price and Simms have to be worth a start – Price to see if he is up to it and Simms to see if he can be a goal threat at this level.

Gana has been disappointing and reminds me of his failings first time around. Coady has dropped off a bit lately and Coleman's return may add a bit of stability.

Coleman Godfrey Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Price Onana Iwobi
Simms Gray

Alan J Thompson
18 Posted 06/01/2023 at 10:54:14
I'd much rather that Simms got a start over Maupay unless he plays both upfront and just one winger, or Maupay from midfield. This would come just as our better over-lapping full-back is out injured and It would mean going out with some intent rather than practicing with the future League format to scrounge points.

Oh, and after seeing the highlights, it looks like Chelsea will be looking for a keeper.

Tony Everan
19 Posted 06/01/2023 at 11:32:22
It feels like the managerial situation has now taken much more importance than this game. It's a shame it's not being played in a month's time when we could be playing a lot better.

The real and present danger to our Premier League status demands action now from Mr Moshiri, to give the new manager some time. He'll need it to initially get the players organised, then get two or three players in to fit his system.

Martin Reppion
20 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:18:05
I was at the Brighton game and, after an hour, Calvert-Lewin looked knackered.

Match fitness and general fitness, though linked, are not the same thing. Players need to have a run of games to build up their sharpness of both mind and body for the game.

For this reason, I would start with Calvert-Lewin and, if he is still blowing at half-time bring on Simms. If Maupay is the answer, then somebody is asking the wrong question.

Tony Abrahams
21 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:26:42
If the manager wasn’t prepared to bring on Simms, earlier the other night, I wouldn’t be holding my breath Martin.
Julian Exshaw
22 Posted 06/01/2023 at 12:43:34
Just a word off topic regarding Gianluca Vialli who very sadly died today. Some players transcend inter-club rivalries through their personalities and overall decency and he was one of those. A true gentleman. Rest in peace, sir.
Russelll Smith
23 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:00:05
Before the match started on Tuesday I told my son that Lampard should have stayed with the same formation as City because, although not as accomplished as City, Brighton play a similar possession based game.
I hope tonight and for the foreseeable future he sticks with a 532 formation as I believe this is the only way we will win sufficient games to save our season irrespective of the opposition. He needs to replace Coady with Mina(until he breaks) as whilst a big influence his defensive abilities are suspect and I don’t think we should make his loan permanent at the end of the season. We are too slow with both him and Tarkowski in a back four which won’t be helped by Coleman having to play for the next 7/8 games.
If DCL is too tired to play it would be hoped that he will play Simms as Maurpay is lost as a centre forward.
Neil Lawson
24 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:01:27
Reports suggesting 25m for Ings. A decent player in our circumstances, but if our club would seriously spend that money to buy him then they really have utterly lost the plot and there is no vestige of hope whatsoever.
Trusting it is paper talk and widely off the mark, but with Everton, who knows ?
Raymond Fox
25 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:03:48
If we want to stay up we don't need these games.
All they might pick up are more injuries that will furthur weaken us and we definitely don't need that. Play some of the younger players and see how they do.
Anyway thats my opinion, its a pity but-.
Paul Cherrington
26 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:15:27
If we suffer another poor performance tonight and get badly beaten, then I think that will be it for Lampard. Can't see the club sticking with him if that does happen.

You have to give managers a chance, but you can't carry on with the run of results we have had lately. Lampard has been here a year now and had a decent number of games to prove himself so can't complain too much if he does get the chop.

Tony Abrahams
27 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:16:42
I’ve heard Kenwright is looking to sign Prince Harry, after his latest revelations.
Tony Everan
28 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:24:25

Michael Boardman
29 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:28:26
Good luck to Jesurun Uchegbulam against West Brom. One of our own who suffered a heart defect while on trial here. Good Luck mate
Danny O’Neill
30 Posted 06/01/2023 at 13:38:11
I registered for NSNOW as soon as I saw the notification

I'm at Heathrow waiting for my flight to Manchester.

Switching my focus to the team and the travelling blue army.

Duncan McDine
31 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:00:55
Julian (22) - absolutely agree. He’s one of those players from the 90’s that most of us admired. Seemingly a very likeable fella too.

Michael (29) - I’ll admit that I had to google him, but will keep an eye out for the Chesterfield result.

Danny - completely agree regarding the fatigue, but tbh I expect DCL to start tonight. Safe travels to you and all Blues heading to Old Trafford.

Does anyone know what our allocation is tonight? Must be 10k plus surely??

Neil Copeland
32 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:05:45
Duncan, 9,400
Luke Welch
33 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:17:24
The I don't see this game as meaningless, quite the opposite, it's cup and the only thing we could possibly win! If we give up on that then season is basically over until we drop down.

The only thing I see as being meaningless is the new stadium in the championship.

Duncan McDine
34 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:22:22
Sounds a bit mean Neil. OT is about 75k capacity (I think) so thought we’d have more tickets than that. Am I right in thinking there was a time when away allocation for the FA cup could be up to 25% of the capacity? Someone will know!!
Christopher Timmins
35 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:33:46

We need to give it a real go tonight as we don't want to be going into the crunch games against Southampton and West Ham on the back of two defeats.


Hoping against hope that we pull off a surprise but not expecting same.

Neil Copeland
36 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:37:23
Duncan, I thought the same but there may be a cap on the actual number. Don’t really know though, someone like Rob Halligan May.
Danny O’Neill
37 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:44:47
Officially it is 9,400.

I think it could have been closer to 15,000 if allocated.

God forbid we achieve a level of competitiveness and success again.

Send me home happy blues as the family are increasingly shaking their heads in despair at me.

Thanks to Brian Murrary and Tony for keeping me sane with their chats.

Here we go as the saying goes

Brian Murray
38 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:47:12
For the sake of the awesome totally unmatched travelling support we have I hope they have a great night but don’t lose sight of what’s important even if we do the unthinkable and are in the velvet bag somehow tomorrow. Me personally had chance of a ticket but I’d end up next to a happy clapper and might not end well. For him.
Alan McGuffog
39 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:47:18
Christopher...we could pull off the result of the season and play United off the park, progressing to the 4th Round. Every man could play his part and run himself into the ground, sweating blood for the cause.
And then the next game. How many times over the last few decades have we been in that position. We invented false dawns.
Dave Abrahams
40 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:48:10
Being honest I wouldn’t have waited for the United result tonight Lampard should have Ben on his way weeks ago and even if we won by a good margin tonight, yes I know pigs might fly, I’d still give him the bullet, doesn’t his results since he took over make it patently obvious that Frank just hasn’t fuckin’ got it.

By the way I hope we win tonight for those marvellous fans making that journey, 9,000 plus, amazing! How many other clubs would take that many after the pathetic, putrid performances we have witnessed recently and for most of this season.

Neil Copeland
41 Posted 06/01/2023 at 14:52:08
According to the FA rules, an away team can receive up to 15% ticket allocation of the full capacity. The actual numbers are subject to a review by the local SAG (safety advisory group) resulting very often in a reduced allocation (vs 15%). I can only assume that the 9,400 number is a result of the SAG review.
Michael Boardman
42 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:00:20
We drew against Citteh 1-1, then got twatted by Brighton. I'd rather have Roberto Walker in charge now, whether we get a result against Man Youshite-ed or not
Denis Hignett
43 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:13:29
We must play Mina for the set-pieces and Godfrey for his pace.
Play Simms; what have we got to lose.
It's all about the performance tonight. A win looks unlikely but please go down fighting.
Alan Johnson
44 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:13:44
Anyone ever had a reply from. ?
Mark Murphy
45 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:14:33
Danny says “I'm at Heathrow waiting for my flight to Manchester.”
Ewww get you and you flying to games. Remember the days of a card table and crates in the backs of Ford Transits??
Seriously though - have a belter - I hope they at least put in the performance you and the other 9399 heroes deserve! I hope by the time I take my seat at West Ham we are clearer on the road forwards. UTFT!
Colin Malone
46 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:21:16
Stop blaming DCL and co. A blind man can see, it bad coaching.
Terry Farrell
47 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:38:58
Ings is another player coming towards the end of his career with a bad injury record. Steer clear
Eddie Dunn
48 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:45:13
I go into every game with optimism but I truly feel for those making the effort to go tonight.
A huge travelling army rooting for Everton.
I hope that Frank and his players drag out a performance to give the support something to cheer about. A gtsy display, even if we lose will galvanise the squad for the next two important games v Saints and the Irons.
I wonder if Lampard will put out his strongest side or try and keep a couple(like DCL) under wraps for the league.
The squad is paper thin so surely a few of the youngsters will see some action.
I hope we can surprise them but my gut feeling is that any early promise will vapourise as soon as we give away the first silly goal.
Still, hope springs eternal and the cup can spring surprises.
Imagine Frank walking over to the away section to celebrate a great away victory. We shall see.
Jay Harris
49 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:46:42
I am finding it hard to generate any interest in this game. My thoughts are all focused on Southampton and West Ham and whether we can trust this board to make the changes necessary to make us a proper club again.

Frank by any measure has failed miserably and my only rationale in keeping him is he is a nice guy and relates to the supporters and on that basis I would think about making him coach and bringing in a Joe Royle type general manager to guide him but then I think why flog a horse thats been dead since he came with some ridiculous team selections and very naive tactics So I guess we wait until the weekend and see whether Moshiri flies in or not.

If he plays Maupay today, he deserves the sack for that alone.

Mark Murphy
50 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:53:04
I’d love Simms and Price to get a start tonight. Personally I think the result is irrelevant to what happens next - I think Franks gone, sadly, but I hope he goes out fighting and I hope Simms and Price play blinders. UTFT
Neil Copeland
51 Posted 06/01/2023 at 15:57:08
Mark, same here. I would like to see Simms and Gray upfront also.
Brian Murray
52 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:05:17
Mark. While your job is hanging by a thread most managers not just frank are terrified of youth and chancing them. The likes of simms dobbin price and mills we should already know about to see if they are up to it especially with losing richy and our hopeless midfield.
I know it takes bravery but now nothing to loose
Dave Lynch
53 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:09:49
Have some faith lads.

I reckon if we turn up tonight we can keep the score below 5 at least

Phil Wood
54 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:15:09
Agree totally with a lot of people on here. I would like the younger players to be given a start but agree that fear will mean the usual players will be selected. Tonight is a chance to give experience to players. We will not be winning a Cup this year.
Can't predict the score as this is Everton.
Joe McMahon
55 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:20:38
Phil, I'm concerned we will not win anything again. I was 25 when we last won anything and unfortunately now 53.
Brian Wilkinson
57 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:30:21
Everton are expected to continue their slump, but for once there is no pressure on us, all the pressure is on utd.

The players can go into the game relaxed and you just never know in a cup game, the extra allocation for the away fans can make a huge difference tonight.

Now in regards to Calvert-Lewin, the way I see it is he is nowhere near fit, but with the transfer window open, playing him and recalling Simms looks like we are better off, in the forward department, seems like we are trying to get loans in, but my own personal opinion, if the transfer window was not open, I feel we would be giving Calvert-Lewin a bit longer to get up to speed, seems like desperation to me.

Anyway fingers crossed for tonight, I am feeling a little bit more confident, than I would be if it was a league game, where utd would be playing their strongest 11.

Danny O’Neill
58 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:31:57
Just landed. I'd have gotten the train as normal Mark, but had to adapt for tonight and I had points. Cost me £2!!! The irony given how much the train costs.

Give me a shout if you're at West Ham.

Bill Watson
59 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:38:06
I recall being at a Cup tie at Middlesborough in the dying embers of Walter Smith's time. We were 3-0 down and I was hoping they'd score a few more to finally get Walter out. As it happened 3-0 was enough but I have the same feeling about tonight's game.
I'm going (!!!) and, of course, hope we win but if we get thumped it may, at least, serve a purpose.
That's what this club brings you to!
John Gall
60 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:44:41
4-0 to the Mancs tonight. Everton cannot score, Gray's miracle goal a rare exception. Lampard will be remembered as the Premier League manager who sent teams out without a striker, backed up by a completely toothless midfield. And the worst thing is we have that ginger goateed anti-football turd Dyche, a man who makes Allardyce look like Guardiola, lined up as our 'saviour'. We're doomed - there can be no other conclusion.
Ed Prytherch
61 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:45:03
The best boss that I ever had once told me "Don't take risks when things are going well but when things are going badly you must take risks". I hope that Frank sees it that way and gives Simms and Price an opportunity to influence the game and leaves Gana, Doucoure and DCL out.
Jim Wilson
62 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:47:01
How the hell does a back 3 ( which will be a back 5 once we are pushed back) strengthen the midfield?

This formation has never worked for us and is a ridiculous formation.

We rode our luck at City using this system, that's all.

Frank Sheppard
63 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:53:09
Mission tonight is lose. Avoid injuries. Move on. It’s not a big game, we have no chance of progressing. Hopefully not embarrassing.
Ian Jones
64 Posted 06/01/2023 at 16:56:59
It's a shame that some seem to be happy with Everton losing especially if it leads to the manager losing his job.

Brian Murray
65 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:02:07
Bill post 59. I was at that boro cup tie albeit in the home end as things transpired. As usual the volume and amount of fans was unbelievable as a bizzy said to me on the day why have we such a fanbase.
Rick Tarleton
66 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:03:00
Emma Raducanu is coaching Calvert-Lewin in how to maximise one's income without actually playing. Seriously, tonight doesn't really matter. Our chances of winning the cup are minimal. What does matter is that no one gets injured and that we have a full squad for the important games that follow.
Ray Roche
67 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:22:38
I was reading a Sunderland website last, I think that every comment made the point that Simms is nowhere near Premier level yet. And Everton playing him could ruin his confidence and further development. How many in here have seen a lot of Simms ? Is he ready? I’ve not seen enough to comment accurately, he’s looked decent but the Sunderland fan’s comments have made me think.
Lee Courtliff
68 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:28:12
I can't believe some of the comments on here, things like "tonight doesn't matter, it's only the Cup"!?!?

Do you not remember '95 when we were much deeper in relegation trouble in the last season (ever?) where 4 teams were being relegated? Joe Royle said that he always believed the Cups could be used to build confidence and momentum, which would galvanise the League campaign.

Jesus Christ, I'd certainly take that. A win tonight and we go into the Southampton game with an incredible atmosphere at Goodison...just like we did against Newcastle a few days after we'd beaten Spurs in the semi-final in '95.

And we won 2-0 with Amokachi scoring both, for those of you who are too young to remember.

Jim Wilson
69 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:31:44
Ray @ 67
The 2 points I would make are:
1. He might be made for this level but if he doesn't perform it is all about what is said to him to keep his confidence up.
2. We don't have any options, better we try him than not.
Kieran Kinsella
70 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:32:39

Funny thing about that Bori game was we’d shown sporadic bursts of form beforehand and there was reason to think we could grind out a result. I don’t have that sense this time

Frank Crewe
71 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:36:53
Considering we had only 4 players at the world cup. Onana and Gueye went out in the group stage, Coady didn't play a single minute and Pickford plays in goal and the rest of the squad just trained for six weeks I would find it hard to believe that any of our players are suffering from fatigue.
I would also hope that if DCL can't play... again, Lampard would pick Simms over Maupay. I think Maupay has had enough chances and has done next to nothing to deserve another chance.
Ray Roche
72 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:37:06
I suppose that if he doesn’t get a run out we’ll never know. Pity he’s coming into a car crash of a team☹️
John Raftery
73 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:37:18
Ray (67) I am not too surprised by that. From what I saw of him against Middlesbrough on TV he knows where the goal is but lacks any pace and is still learning how to use his physique. That was also my impression of seeing him in the under 18s/21s and on TV at Hearts last season.
Derek Cowell
74 Posted 06/01/2023 at 17:56:42
I can't believe there are still people on here who think we can win this game in the face of all evidence to the contrary. Positivity and hope are commendable but I just cannot see it.

I know we got an unlikely draw at City but this is a cup game so defending is pointless. We have to try to win and of course we just don't do that.

I hope I am wrong of course but being hopelessly optimistic for the sake of it seems futile. A heavy defeat seems a likely outcome tonight.

I also cannot see us avoiding relegation. We probably need 8 wins from 20 games. 7 of those games are against the Sky 6. Of the remaining 13 games several are away from home and we haven't won many of those for years, apart from with Carlo! No chance of 8 wins however much I hope and cross my fingers.

Sorry to the super optimists but thats how it looks to me.

Mike Keating
75 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:06:54
Mystic Mike gazes into his crystal ball and what does he see?
A 1-0 victory for the Blues followed by a saviour in Brown Shoes coming to the rescue and we go on a great cup run, beating City in the final and then ……
Oh God, I can’t watch.
What did Marx say?
“History repeats itself; first as tragedy, then as farce”
Robert Tressell
76 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:07:02
Lee # 68, I completely agree. Failing to take cups seriously is part of our malaise. It kills enthusiasm, kills momentum (not that we have any at the moment) and the players all become gripped with a sense of pointlessness.

Let's show some bottle and try and make our own luck.

Jerome Shields
78 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:16:03
They will put in a shift this evening.
Iain Johnston
80 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:18:33
Lee#68, that's half the issue, many of our fans today don't remember nor do they remember that weirdly snowy midweek replay night against Oxford United more than a decade earlier.

What was it HK said at halftime before Inchy famously pounced?

'Listen to them out there, do it for them'.

Tony Everan
81 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:21:00

I know this is a unlikely scenario but a great performance and a win tonight could be an unexpected turning point for Frank Lampard. Mr Moshiri would be much more minded to let him take on Southampton, which if we win tonight would be very winnable too. Then we get some momentum going.

I too hope a couple of the younger lads are given a start, it’s an opportunity for them to stake a claim and prove they can do it on the big stage.


Ernie Baywood
82 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:21:30
I'm assuming 'fatigued' means something other than being a bit tired. Maybe muscle soreness or similar considering he played two matches after so long out. Benefit of the doubt still applies in tough positions. The worst thing to happen would be sending him out repeatedly after an injury and watching him break down for the forthcoming league games.

Like him or not, we're definitely going to need him. He's probably the only chance we've got of staying up

Paul Kossoff
83 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:27:55
When I was in my forties and a single parent of a two year old,I trained six days a week. Cardiovascular 45 minutes, 15 minutes rest, 45 minutes weight training. Never ever suffered from fatigue or tiredness.
25 year old professional footballer paid millions plays a sport he's trained for and complains of fatigue. I hope no Everton supporter puts faith in this over paid over hyped second rate conman. Fine the twat for taking a powder. He doesn't want to be in a team that may get battered. He's better suited to dressing up like a panzy and sorting out his hand bag collection. Unbelievable!
Paul Hewitt
84 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:29:01
Jerome@78. That's very good of them.
Ian Jones
85 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:31:06
Nathan Broadhead has also been recalled from his loan. Hopefully, we can see what he brings.

Update. Now read elsewhere on the site that he might have been recalled with a view to selling him.

Brendan McLaughlin
86 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:31:20
Tony #81

Your victory for Everton tonight scenario leading to a result against Southampton and producing a momentum that will lead us to climb the table is optimistic in the extreme.

However your hope that a couple of the younger lads are given a start tonight is even more delusional!

Nick Page
87 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:40:09
He’s probably got fatigued putting too much eye liner on. Fashion my arse.
Tony Everan
88 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:44:29
Brendan, It’s an obligation on a match day . I’m trying my best here to extract some positivity from a near bone dry well ! I agree wholeheartedly that delusional optimism is an accurate description.
Jeff Armstrong
89 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:45:25
Mills, Cannon, Price all playing for U 21’s, so much for giving the young lads a chance in front of the shower of shit who will play tonight, no bottle Lampard strikes again.
Jason Hewly
90 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:48:08
United are coming to this flying. I heard somewhere their run is 10 wins in the last 11 games.

We're going to get battered. (Last time I posted that, we drew with City)


Martin Farrington
91 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:53:35
I hear Bill is bulling his hob nail boots to lead the line up from the front after Lank Frampard asked for a new striker.

He will wear an original Dixie style True Blue shirt.
Pantomime Dame Lace frilled Knickerbockers.
Blue camel hair stocking sox n suspenders.

With two copies of the pink echo as shinnee's.

His boyz pen 2 men ticket stub collection stapled to his wrists so he can sweat his "blue blood"* (spoiler alert - its actually red, like the club he has made us a laughing stock at).

The script is written ladies and gentleman.
Let the story unfold .
(Like our top flight residency)

Tom Bowers
92 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:54:11
The DCL situation was of their own doing.

They finally had him doing well and then let Richarlison go.

With no replacement for him and then with Townsend a long term absentee they turned to Gordon who shone for one or two games but has gone backward and Maupay (who was never forward to go backward) the season has become a disaster so far.
Gray and Gana are inconsistent and along with the out of favor Doucoure
and the reckless Onana the support from midfield has been woeful.

Only Iwobe has shown any real form but even he of late looks out of sorts.

They don't appear to have been doing any homework for new players prior to Jan. 1st. so I don't expect any new blood coming in that can make an impact for this club at this time.

The board are a disgrace to this once fine club.

Stephen Brown
93 Posted 06/01/2023 at 18:59:59
Sorry off topic but been thinking about it all day. Carlo still has a soft spot for us I’d say ?! Can we as Real Madrid for 2/3 of their best young players on loan especially attacking players ?! Come on Carlo ?!
Andy Crooks
94 Posted 06/01/2023 at 19:10:38
I would like to think that our players have enough pride in themselves to ensure that the travelling blues get something to feel pride in.
We will not get battered, despite my utter contempt for the way the coach and players performed against Brighton I believe they have it in them to redeem themselves.
Players can turn in shite performances but you don't,despite what we often think, get to play premier league football if you are a shite footballer. They have it in them, they must show it.

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