Everton vs Newcastle United

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Everton are back under the Goodison Park lights for the final time this season as high-flying Newcastle come to town in another match to have taken on huge importance in terms of the Blues' battle for survival.

Sean Dyche's side will kick off the evening in 19th place in the Premier League table, having slipped a place with Nottingham Forest's home win over Brighton & Hove Albion, but also in the knowledge that victory would leapfrog them into 16th and provide a huge shot in the arm ahead of a "six-pointer" at Leicester on Monday night.

Significantly, Abdoulaye Doucouré is in line to return after serving a three-match ban that could well have been costly given that the Toffees were underwhelming in his absence against Manchester United, Fulham and Crystal Palace.

He is expected to go straight back into the starting XI, probably at the expense of Demarai Gray, and playing off Dominic Calvert-Lewin who Dyche said has recovered well from his 90-minute outing at Selhurst Park – his first taste of action since 3 February – but the rest of the outfield personnel will be determined by the respective fitness of Amadou Onana and Seamus Coleman.

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Both players will be subject to late fitness tests ahead of Thursday's clash with Newcastle United after both returned to training following injury having missed the previous two games against Fulham and Palace. Dyche said that both have returned to training and they will be assessed before he makes his team selection.

Should the captain be passed fit, he is an obvious replacement for Mason Holgate who is suspended after picking up two yellow cards at Selhurst Park on Saturday but, if not, there is a feeling among some fans that Nathan Patterson, as a natural right-back, should be handed his first start under the new manager rather than handing the responsibility again to Ben Godfrey.

Further forward, should Onana be included, it would likely be at the expense of James Garner, giving Dyche the opportunity to field what is regarded as his strongest midfield even though Garner has performed quite well since stepping into the team following a long injury lay-off of his own.

Ruben Vinagre remains sidelined with an injury while there was positive news for Andros Townsend who is back training on grass after suffering a set-back earlier this year in his long recovery from a torn ACL.

Newcastle travel buoyed by their 6-1 hammering of Tottenham at the weekend that lifted them into 3rd place and makes them a formidable proposition for an Everton side that hasn't won since beating Brentford five games ago. However, like Arsenal before them, the Bees arrived in L4 as one of the form teams in the division and left having been beaten amid the cauldron of Goodison Park.

Another blistering atmosphere is expected for this one with the players set to be greeted by thousands of passionate Blues outside the stadium before kick-off and the defiant support then continuing into the stands leading up Z-Cars and the siren. 

Allan Saint-Maximin has been ruled out by Magpies boss Eddie Howe and there is a chance he would start ex-Everton winger Anthony Gordon in his place to add extra spice to the occasion. Meanwhile, Bruno Guimaraes is a doubt and Fabian Schar will undergo a fitness test on a hamstring strain sustained against Spurs.

With Calvert-Lewin and Doucouré back, the prospect of Onana also returning and a potential bear-pit inside the Old Lady, Everton simply have to show up and deliver a performance of intensity and desire to get a priceless victory.

A draw would not be the end of the world but it would heighten the stakes for the trip to the King Power Stadium and layer on added pressure for the games at Brighton and Wolves before Manchester City and Bournemouth come to Goodison. The mantra, like a year ago on an unforgettable night: just win!

Kick-off: 7:45pm, Thursday 27 April 2023
Referee: Andre Marriner
VAR: Chris Kavanagh
Last Time: Everton 1 - 0 Newcastle United

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, McNeil, Doucouré, Calvert-Lewin


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Barry Hesketh
1 Posted 26/04/2023 at 16:54:53
I hope that Seamus makes the team tomorrow, but many reports that Onana may leave us soon, regardless of what happens in the rest of the season, would suggest that we won't risk him being injured?
Colin Glassar
2 Posted 26/04/2023 at 16:59:46
On the contrary, Barry. If he’s leaving then let’s squeeze the pips until he’s dry? We need him as his running causes teams problems.
Mark Ryan
3 Posted 26/04/2023 at 17:04:07
If it's a choice between Seamus on crutches, carrying an oxygen tank, whilst having taken 3 Tramadol, or Holgate at the very top of his game, I'll take Seamus all day long.
Peter Carpenter
4 Posted 26/04/2023 at 17:06:50
Every one of the buggers will be trying to leave if we go down. Their agents will be at it right now, lining up an escape route.

And if we stay up, we will be getting rid of as many as possible but that won't be easy. Our team for the first game of next season is going to be unrecognisable, one way or the other.

Hopefully, they still have the pride and fight in them to give us a chance over the next six games.

Daniel A Johnson
5 Posted 26/04/2023 at 17:07:39
My mate who's a Burnley fan told me about the Sean Dyche drinking game. Every time he says the word "Noise" in his pressers, take a shot… lol.
Jay Harris
6 Posted 26/04/2023 at 17:21:11
We need the best squad available for this one and need to raise our game significantly.

Hopefully Calvert-Lewin is finding his way to his best form and will be assisted by Doucouré and his running and Iwobi with his sharp passing.

Only a win will do.


Rob Baker
7 Posted 26/04/2023 at 17:35:56
Both start if fit.
Paul Washington
8 Posted 26/04/2023 at 17:55:51
Pete #4,

You're right, mate, they will be plotting an out.

It amazes me that the players who get a team relegated scarper soon as they can.

Simon Dalzell
9 Posted 26/04/2023 at 18:25:44
Barry (1),

I really hope that not playing Onana to avoid injury so we can sell him doesn't happen. This idea sounds crazy seeing the predicament we're in now.

Tony Everan
10 Posted 26/04/2023 at 18:26:40
My confidence has gone up a bit. It's very good news that Seamus returned to training today. Right-back is an issue for us. Seamus would run through a brick wall for Everton, so if he's in training and there's no reoccurrence, there's got to be a great chance he'll start.

Garner will be pushing Onana for a starting berth anyway tomorrow, so it's great news he's back training but he's not quite as critical as Seamus.

Dave Abrahams
11 Posted 26/04/2023 at 19:01:32
If Seamus is on the pitch, it gives us a boost not just for his ability but as captain – he gives all the team a lift and helps to raise their game.
Brian Wilkinson
12 Posted 26/04/2023 at 19:11:52
I cannot see Howe risking starting Gordon tomorrow: the fans will get straight into his head, he will either lose the plot and get sent off, or hooked off.

We the fans will be like the Shawshank Redemption, fresh fish scene, baiting Gordon.

Mark Murphy
13 Posted 26/04/2023 at 19:37:11
Ruben Vinagre is injured.
David West
14 Posted 26/04/2023 at 21:12:39
To think we wouldn't play Onana so we can sell him in summer is ridiculous. Come on fellas!!!

What you gonna get for him? £50M? £60M at the very most.
What's survival worth?? £150M?? More to us as we'd implode!!

It's nonsense to say we wouldn't risk him.

Seamus being back would be massive!!

Michael Barrett
15 Posted 26/04/2023 at 21:24:20
We need more than Seamus, David...

Nottm Forest just dumped us near the trap door. Haaland couldn't save us now…

Mark Ryan
16 Posted 26/04/2023 at 21:49:06
Christ on a bike. The Premier League table!

It's a must-win tomorrow night…

Bobby Mallon
17 Posted 26/04/2023 at 22:00:18
Wow! We are gone.
Minik Hansen
18 Posted 26/04/2023 at 23:35:58
Other clubs like Wolverhampton Wanderers and Nottingham Forest before today musta thought they're gone, look at them now.

May the football gods be with us tomorrow.

Brian Wilkinson
19 Posted 26/04/2023 at 23:40:04
Managed to get a ticket for my daughter so I will not be going for any pre-match drinks beforehand

Sitting next to me, my daughter's record is very impressive:

Won 11
Drawn 2
Lost none.

Let's hope her run continues tomorrow.

Ian Riley
20 Posted 26/04/2023 at 23:56:27
Asking a lot of this squad to get at least 8 points. I seriously feel it's too late. How on earth didn't we sack Frank Lampard sooner?

Hopefully we won't be out of the Premier League long. A club that season after season sells its best players – in truth, it will catch up with you. I know it's not over and yes mathematically we can do it but, hand on heart, really?

Remember those Top 10 finishes? Blimey, we moaned we should be better than this. Those were the days!!

Kevin Molloy
21 Posted 27/04/2023 at 00:13:53
We cannot keep playing Russian Roulette like this but the crowd can get us a result tomorrow. They have to turn it up to max.

No football, just a horrible intimidating atmosphere that will make the Geordies long for mid-table, and curse their top 4 aspirations. Let's send them home with a splitting headache.

Rich Pembo
22 Posted 26/04/2023 at 00:33:10
In trying to keep the faith you look for targets and I think we need 7 points to stay up but 6 might do it. So 35 points target but 3 draws and a win might be enough. We've got 3 games against bottom-half teams and 3 against top-half teams.

We likely need to finish above Leicester on points (better goal difference than us) so that's the key game, and obviously Bournemouth home has to be assumed 3 points for any chance of survival. If we can't win at Leicester, then the Wolves away game becomes must-win.

Marginal goal difference is only likely to come into it if we're same points as Leeds. The good news is they also play Man City (away) and the Skunks.

(It's hard to see more than a single point from Skunks, Man City and Brighton games but you never know...)

Colin Glassar
23 Posted 27/04/2023 at 00:47:51
Looking at the table, I'd say even Chelsea (on current form) could be sucked into the relegation fight. I've always thought the likes of West Ham and Bournemouth are still not safe.

Bob Parrington
24 Posted 27/04/2023 at 03:19:51
Mark @ 13 No, mate, too many French Fries!
Paul Hewitt
25 Posted 27/04/2023 at 07:46:49
Well this is it, it's now or never. Let's see what the players are made of. I'm sure the fans will be magnificent tonight but it's the players that need to grow some balls and fight like hell.
Peter Carpenter
26 Posted 27/04/2023 at 07:54:23
It's Newcastle Utd – not Real Madrid. Show them no respect, get at them and make it hurt.
Garry Martin
27 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:00:45
If EFC don't win tonight we're definitely 'toast'.
Eddie Dunn
28 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:05:52
Forest have shown us that there is a way forward. Everyone was condemning them to relegation a week ago.

We simply have to get the win, never mind a draw, because going to Leicester will be tough and our away record is appalling.

We might get lucky at Wolves, who are pretty safe, but Brighton will recover from their FA Cup setback; that last game at home to the Cherries is scary, with their ability to score goals.

Let's get 3 points.

Benjamin Dyke
29 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:06:30
What a nightmare it's all become. Even Southampton nearly beat Arsenal recently. All the other clubs are recording wins except us.

It all feels very different with a win tonight but are the squad capable? We need 2 or 3 miracles!

Paul Hewitt
30 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:19:30
Peter @26.

No, they're not Real Madrid. But neither were Wolves, Leicester, Southampton and Fulham.

Peter Carpenter
31 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:38:38
Thanks, Paul. I was trying to build some optimism there.
Jonathan Haddock
33 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:43:10
The weather forecast is dreadful for the match which probably won't help the atmosphere or coach welcome. Bring your waterproofs boys! It might help the team on the pitch though, let's hope.

As usual we have a pair of useless officials tonight and I always feel we never get our fair share of decisions. Praying for a miracle!

Jerome Shields
34 Posted 27/04/2023 at 08:58:39
It is going to take a disciplined performance with no errors and a bit of luck.

Good luck, Everton, and to the fantastic Evertonians that will be there inside and outside the ground.

Mal van Schaick
35 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:10:25
If Dyche hasn't learned from the Fulham game, then I fear the worst.

Tactics and strategy will be a key part of this game; Dyche has a couple of systems that he can use:

4-5-1, packing the midfield to stop Newcastle playing through us;

Or 4-4-1-1, using Doucouré behind Calvert-Lewin in a free role, putting Gray out wide and bringing Iwobi into the centre.

What Dyche cannot do is set up in an attacking way, and then getting counter-attacked. Ultimately, we need 3 points.

I'm sceptical of the officials in charge. I'm sure that Mariner and Cavendish have teamed up before to shaft us.

Phillip Warrington
36 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:11:55
Shit that Forest won; we now have to get 1 point minimum but a win will only keep us within striking range of the bottom 4th or 5th place.
Alan McGuffog
38 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:31:51
It seems like every team down there has the ability to dig out a win, against the odds.

Isn't it about time we did!

Laurie Hartley
39 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:32:38
Mal #35 - I agree with your set-ups except I would drop both Gray and Iwobi for this one. I would be playing McNeil in the free roll behind Calvert-Lewin and pack the midfield:-

Coleman, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko
Doucouré, Gueye, Onana, Garner

Nothing but the 3 points is good enough, it would knock the stuffing out of our fellow strugglers.

It's going to be a long next 12 hours.

Up the Blues!!!

Chris Gould
40 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:33:16
To stay up, I believe we need 8 points to be sure. So 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses. The most likely wins would be Wolves away (they're pretty much safe) and Bournemouth home.

Tonight is not a must-win. A draw would not be a disaster.

The Man City and Brighton games are likely losses, but there will be surprises so maybe we'll get a win that we didn't expect. The Leicester game is a must-not-lose, not a must-win. We don't want to allow them to pull away and a draw will keep them in our sights.

So, don't panic if we don't win either of the next two games. Draws will not be bad results. Disappointing but by no means disastrous.

Rob Baker
41 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:36:16
Every team is picking up wins except us. I know football springs up odd results but I'm struggling to see how the lowest scorers defeat the tightest defence. Everything is crossed for tonight as defeat will tighten the noose big time.
Mal van Schaick
42 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:39:03
Laurie #39. I agree with your idea. Anything that would get us the 3 points that we desperately need to stay in the Premier League. A win in this game would build confidence for the remaining fixtures.

Chris #40. That's a good appraisal of what we need to do, and the highlighted games for a Houdini act, seem feasible.

Mark Andersson
43 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:48:11
I'm a Blue Aussie on holiday going to Bramley-Moore Dock today. I really hope the Blues do the impossible and stay up… but realistically it's gonna take a miracle. The Red Shite must be gloating more than ever at our predicament.

Good luck to all the fans going tonight. Do your bit and just maybe the players will have the heart and fight to get 3 points.

Brian Harrison
44 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:49:34
I know many fellow Blues are suggesting this is a must-win game and even more so after the results of the other teams in and around us.

With our away record being so poor, then maybe tonight is a must-win, which will be a tough ask against a team sitting 3rd in the Premier League, and you could argue if we couldn't beat Fulham at home so why should we expect us to beat Newcastle?

But this is Everton and that's what they do, never make anything easy, and as they proved last season, trailing by 2 goals to Palace in our last home game… and wecame back to win. We beat Newcastle last season with 10 men – not that I am advocating going behind or getting a man sent off.

As Forest showed that, even conceding first doesn't mean the game is over, and Leicester came from a goal behind to snatch a draw at Leeds.

Despite all the passion that will be generated by our fans, tonight the players need to be calm and clinical, and not be foolhardy in their approach.

I think having Seamus and Doucouré back will give the team a big lift, and will certainly increase our attacking options. I am sure we will go through every emotion tonight, which hopefully ends with us winning.

Finally, I hope Dyche has a word with Pickford before the game to not let himself get wound up as he always seems to against this lot. We need him to be calm and display why he is England's Number 1. I just feel the last couple of games he has become a bit hyper and that affects his distribution, which was poor against Palace.

Kim Vivian
45 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:49:49
Goals scored:

Leicester City – 44
Leeds Utd – 42
West Ham Utd – 34
Bournemouth – 31
Nottm Forest – 29
Southampton – 27
Everton – 24

We know it – and it's been said a million times – but, if we're going to dig ourselves out, we have got to do better than a goal every 120 minutes.

Somehow... Jeez – we've only got 540 minutes left.

James Marshall
46 Posted 27/04/2023 at 09:58:08
We've had it in my view – I haven't changed my stance since about Christmas when we were falling like a stone.

Our team has zero goals in it, and simply cannot win games. We'll likely get turned over tonight, and to stay up we're going to have to win away – it just doesn't feel as though it'll happen so I'm resigned to the Championship.

Realisitcally our only hope is for other teams to be worse than us, and there aren't 3 teams worse than us this season. I can see us finishing second bottom easily.

Also, all the stuff about the crowd doing their bit really winds me up – footballers should take responsibility for playing football, not supporters. Relying on your home form and home support is a recipe for disaster which is coming home to roost.

James Newcombe
47 Posted 27/04/2023 at 10:04:47
I know we shouldn't worry about the other teams so much. Just to point out that Bournemouth and more worryingly, Forest, have to play Chelsea yet. So maybe Frank will sink us after all!

Tonight is do-or-die in my opinion. But I did say that with Spurs and Fulham!

Ernie Baywood
48 Posted 27/04/2023 at 10:06:42
"Everton are back under the Goodison Park lights for the final time this season."

Occurs to me that every 'last' at Goodison this season could be the last in the top flight.

It's so unforgivable. A bunch of fools took a middling side, spent and made it dreadful.

You just have to look at that goal tally. We didn't need much. 4 or 5 more goals and we'd be sitting in a much different position. Yet we hired a coach who would 'keep it tight' and didn't buy or even manage to loan an attacker.

We can beat Newcastle in a one-off game. But it's hard to expect too much.

Jerome Shields
49 Posted 27/04/2023 at 10:27:06
Everton need a result tonight and it has to be a tight game. That is what Dyche is more comfortable with. Expect a similar selection with the addition of Coleman and Doucouré. Calvert-Lewin will start.
David Vaughan
50 Posted 27/04/2023 at 10:30:40
A big game, again. I'll sing my heart out for the Blues as always.

Yet such is my malaise that, if we lose tonight and put even more weight on the trapdoor beneath us, I can't boo. If we win I won't celebrate like the Palace game last season. It feels too far gone for that.

Jim Wilson
51 Posted 27/04/2023 at 10:31:31
Seamus must be fully fit to play him. We need him firing on all cylinders for the remaining games too.

I would be tempted to play Garner ahead of Onana to keep possession better for us.

If we could stay clear of injuries and suspensions for the last few games, it would be a massive help and, on that note, while Dyche must get plenty of effort and fight from the players, they must keep their heads and do nothing silly.

If Gordon plays, give him stick but no objects should be thrown. And stay off the pitch!

We need to concentrate on our players and back each one to the hilt, no matter what. I feel for them, the pressure on them is enormous. Let's show the football world that once again Evertonians are by far the best!



Dave Abrahams
52 Posted 27/04/2023 at 10:37:29
James (46),

Yes, you are correct, players should always and I mean always take responsibility and give of their best; unfortunately some don't, and the best some have just isn't good enough. That's why the crowd is important and relying on your home support isn't always a recipe for disaster. It wasn't last season and it quite possibly will not be this season either.

I'm going tonight to roar my team on to a desperate win, I don't care how they do it but, at the end of the night, we will be 15th from bottom. Not pretty, not something we want to see… but, with the people we have in charge off the field and some of the players we have in the squad, it's a position I will cherish and hope we retain until the last game of the season.

You don't have to tell me, James, and other fans who feel the way you do, that's exactly what you want as well.

I believe we are staying up because: We Shall Not Be Moved.

James Marshall
53 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:03:00
I don't think home advantage is going to play a part tonight – Newcastle are streets ahead of us in every department, and it'll show later.

We're not suddenly going to find goals, form or wins in my view, and literally nobody seems to have anything other than blind faith in this team keeping us in the Premier League.

We probably need 7 points absolute minimum to stay up, so 2 wins and a draw. Where are they coming from? I just don't see it, and 35 points probably won't be enough anyway.

Tony Abrahams
54 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:19:27
Didn't Villa destroy Newcastle the other week?

Kunal Desai
55 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:26:50
A point is not a bad result tonight, but that would then put the onus on us beating Leicester on Monday.

We need a win from either of these games. It's that simple. Win or bust.

James Marshall
56 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:27:05
The same Villa who are joint top in form since November? 13 wins – level with Arsenal? In their last 10 games, they have 26 points from 30 available.

Not exactly a great team to compare us to! Villa are top of the form league in 2023, we're bottom of the form league during the same period.

Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:42:09
I wasn't aware of their record, James, although I knew it was impressive. I heard that Everton were probably the better team against them at Goodison not so long ago.

I know we lost but I heard it was a very dubious penalty that made all the difference; I might have heard wrong.

Everton have been atrocious this season but we were beginning to find a stride before Doucoure's suspension, and all this whilst playing without a recognized striker. When we have got our best players on the pitch, we are definitely a mid-table side who could beat anyone on our day and I think we will be near full strength tonight.

I've just listened to a fella in the gym moaning about the season ticket price increase (the deadline for renewals is tomorrow) and I said to him that it's not so much the increase, it's the fact that we have been getting short-changed for years. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "Exactly!"

We will see tonight, James, but Goodison Park, especially under floodlights and especially when the crowd is up for it, will always be a hard place for the opposition; that's why the first 30 minutes is crucial tonight.

I have watched teams wilt at Anfield for years and always criticized them for lacking heart, caving in to the Liverpool crowd. I've always been wrong on that score, though because I had never taken into consideration how much harder the Liverpool players work, getting energized by the crowd.

I honestly believe, when Goodison is in full voice, we have a crowd that is as good as any. So hopefully home advantage is massive tonight.

Daniel A Johnson
58 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:43:53
Teams that can't score get relegated and sadly that's us.

I've resigned myself to it for my own health and sanity.

The Richarlison transfer effectively killed us as an attacking unit.

We are quite simply, sad to say, fucked.

Hans Fyhrqvist
59 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:48:05
Yes, it´s a huge game for Everton today. Great to have the bus welcome returning. Hopefully Goodison will be rocking tonight. Expect our players will be up to the challenge. Imo in this current situation, when we go to the match as underdogs, we have mentally a better chance to get a positive result.

Would be great if our team and all the players could show the same desire and commitment and organization which we had in Dyche´s first game as Everton manager, when we defeated Arsenal at Goodison. If we can reach that standard in our remaining games, we have a good chance to stay up.

Hope that our players show belief and confidence, especially going forward and in the final third. Put bodies in the opposition's penalty box, and put in more crosses and shots than we have done lately. Great that we have Calvert-Lewin back to spearhead our attack.

I think we agree that we have some "confidence players", especially McNeil, Iwobi and Gray, who have the technical ability to run with the ball and have a good shot, if they can produce the best of themselves. McNeil has been able to do it lately, Iwobi also most of the time (although he still needs more self-belief when shooting), but Gray has struggled lately.

The latter should, when possible, travel with the ball, and not stop so frequently, and use more his good shooting. Hopefully Dyche and his coaching staff can heighten or instill more confidence in these players and that our fans can also help by encouraging them.

The stakes are high, but if the Everton players fight for the badge with the "never-say-die" attitude, they have fulfilled at least the pledge that "minimum demand is the maximum effort".

Dale Self
60 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:49:23
Speak for yourself. I am not fucked, we are not fucked, we are Everton! A big club – in case you didn't know.
Daniel A Johnson
61 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:54:37
One thing we always know about Everton is that, 90% of the time when we have a big match or fixture, the team bottles it. We all know this.

There is no finer example than the Fulham fixture at home. Expected to win, we needed to dig deep and look what happened… so predictable.

I simply can't see us beating Newcastle tonight; they have goals all over the pitch and will pick us off.

The upcoming fixture that will 100% doom us is at Leicester. Again does anyone expect us to win that cup final? When has this squad ever?

Am I negative? No, just a realist – we are atrocious. After 55 years, I've simply come to the realisation that, this time, this is it.

James Hughes
62 Posted 27/04/2023 at 11:58:43
James M.

Well, we all support our club in different ways and I am sorry you are gloomy as are other members of the EFC parish.

We will get the points needed to stay up and unfortunatley face another battle next season. Poison Bill et al will be gone and we can start the rebuild. (Again!)

For me, just remember to stay positive.

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Raymond Fox
63 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:09:00
We only hope we can pull something out of the bag tonight.
Can we win? Of course we can – strange and unexpected results happen often.

Newcastle are on a roll, no doubt, but they are virtually the same players who couldn't beat anyone not that long ago.

We need a win or two desperately, or a win and a draw in our next two games.

As per usual, we need to start scoring goals and we may do now Calvert-Lewin and other first-choice players are returning. Fingers crossed.

I'm only a part-time supporter and relegation won't mean as much to me as some of you lads on here and elsewhere, I feel for you.

It will be tragic if we were to go down at this time and after all those years in the top flight.

Mark Murphy
64 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:13:12
Our team had zero goals in it — but now has Calvert-Lewin back.

Our defence hasn't been the problem so tonight could be different and similar to the Arsenal game.

I don't expect miracles but Calvert-Lewin does make a big difference to this team. I'm not making predictions as Murphy's Law was named after me and my betting record is shocking but I'm not defeatist.


Paul Hewitt
65 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:21:12
I think we're more likely to go down than stay up.Does that mean I'm negative and have given up? No!

I make decisions on what I've seen, not on 'maybe's. We have 3 home games left, 2 against Top 4 teams. 3 away games and we've only won 1 away all season so far. Can we get them 3 wins to make us safe?

Yes. But has this team done anything this season to suddenly think we can do that, I don't think so. Anyway let's hope tonight is the start of one of those wins we need.

Dave Williams
66 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:30:25
People saying we are down should be embarrassed to post on here. I agree we are in dire straights, but to those who say we always fail to perform – can you not remember Palace last season?

We have had a bad run of three games but have had four very important players out in most of them. Tonight, we should be at full strength with hopefully a bear-pit atmosphere.

The time for predictions of doom accompanied by a flood of “I told you so”s is not today. We need to unite to drive the team on – we are not dead yet!!

Anthony Hawkins
67 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:31:31
If we don't win tonight, the players' heads will drop and I think the belief will be too eroded for a fight to the end. We'll be on the same number of games and they'll be wondering where the goals will come from.

A win tonight and the fight will still be on.

Anthony Hawkins
68 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:38:38
Paul Hewitt #64 – based on performance, the team still doesn't have goals in it.

It'll take time for the players to regroup with Calvert-Lewin in the team and last game the support for him wasn't there, it was too deep – and that's been a consistent issue for a while.

We need to attack as a unit and defend as a unit. It's not down to individual players to do the job but the team seems to think it is.

If the team comes alive in a joined-up way tonight, we'll use that as the benchmark. Until that happens, there's little evidence for change.

Steve Brown
69 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:39:24
We need to have more attacking intensity from the off tonight. We can't just launch long balls towards Calvert-Lewin, we also need to get down the wings and whip in early crosses.

Set-piece quality will also be really important as we are a tall team with Onana and Doucouré back.

As for the ‘we're down' posters, I can understand thinking it and being pessimistic. But, I don't get why you bother posting it repeatedly on TW? What does it serve you to drag the morale down of other supporters who are up for the fight?


Dave Abrahams
70 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:40:45
James (62),

A great link James but eyes are playing tricks with me, every time I saw Donald Sutherland it wasn't him, it was Danny O'Neil. Even the accents had changed but not the meanings, "Have a little faith," he said, "All this bleedin' (my version) negativity," he said, "Start believing," he said – and they achieved their objective in the end, didn't they.

Newcastle are not bad, nothing special and their fans (Scotsmen with their brains kicked in) are okay but they are getting fucked tonight. Just believe, have a little faith and trust the manager, team and fans to get those 3 points tonight.

Paul Hewitt (65) lovely last line, loved it, see you're believing already now come on the rest of you lovely doubting Thomas's !!

Pat Kelly
71 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:50:36
Dictionary.com definition of relegation:

"assignment or banishment to an inferior position, place, rank, or condition"

Are we there yet?

Mark Murphy
72 Posted 27/04/2023 at 12:54:30
I'm with you, Dave @66, but tbf this is an open discussion and people have their own opinions. It's just the relentless repetition from some that grinds my gears.

I'm neither confident nor comfortable with the current team but by Christ I still think we've got a chance. If we're not 1-0 up after 5 minutes tonight, just watch the pile-on!

Ian Riley
73 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:05:28
Dave Williams #66,

I'm not embarrassed at all saying I can't see us staying up. I base it on lack of goals and current form. Also, the quality we sell, season after season.

Last season, we beat Palace and stayed up. We must win and win more. Perhaps it might happen? I wish it to happen, even prayed but we must have realism as the disappointment can be overwhelming.

Also the quality of teams we have to play all have something to play for. Newcastle are in the Top 4 and well-placed. They are not Palace but are beatable.

Football is very unpredictable at times. No one should be embarrassed about giving an opinion on here as we all see things differently. It makes the analysis of football more enjoyable.

Please feel free to tell me so if we stay up! I will enjoy it.

Safe journey all.

Alan McGuffog
74 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:07:58
I respect people who have faith… in the Immaculate Conception or in our ability to stay up.

I do not consider myself a doom merchant, just one who looks at the evidence available. I don't see three worse teams than us, sorry to say. I'd be delighted with points tonight… but really?

I've been a blue since 1961 and this is without a doubt the most abject side I have witnessed. Not a defeatist but I truly can't see us getting the points needed.

Here's hoping I'm totally wrong. COYB

Danny O’Neill
75 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:11:25
I'll repeat myself on here from another thread. Monday evening we can be on 34 points with Brighton, Wolves and Bournemouth to play.
Anthony Hawkins
76 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:11:45
@Alan, there are three teams prospectively worse than us, but that relies on our team actually playing as a team:

Leeds, Leicester and Southampton.

Mike Connolly
77 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:15:49
We'll get 6 points out of these two games!


Barry Hesketh
78 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:17:11
If, as many are predicting, we end up falling out of the Premier League, I wonder what the posts will look like next season with six games to play?

If we're in the Top 6, will it be positive that we could make a late charge to gain automatic promotion? Or if we're mid-table, will it be a case of looking over our shoulders, worrying about falling out of the Championship?

The way I look at it, rather than trying to avoid relegation, we should think that our remaining Premier League fixtures present an opportunity to gain promotion a year early.

Peter Carpenter
79 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:42:48
I like your thinking, Barry. Send it to Sean Dyche quickly.
Kieran Kinsella
80 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:43:17
I think even if we see this game as do or die, we need to reign in those thoughts.

Negativity is infectious. If fans start believing a defeat tonight spells the end, then it lets the players off the hook and they may down tools, as Watford did last season.

Andy Peers
81 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:49:51
I just don't see us winning this one. I understand the hope and the need to repeat the Palace game from last season, as with welcoming the coach etc, not sure if that will do it.

The Kenwright era is finally coming to a close and unfortunately it looks like we will get what we deserve during his reign.

The man is just poison running through the club's veins!!

Barry Rathbone
82 Posted 27/04/2023 at 13:52:06
Trouble is the atmosphere is incidental.

If Newcastle show up meaning business, they will obliterate our toothless mob simply because they are miles ahead in all aspects of the game.

A loss by 3 goals, I fear.

Ray Jacques
83 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:04:24
Newcastle are far superior to us. We sold them one of our best players and he can't get a regular start. If they turn up, then they will beat us.

We need to get the atmosphere going and the players need to work their socks off to get a win.

We live in hope, not expectation.

Colin Malone
84 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:10:08
Demarai Grey needs to show up. He has done nothing for the cause, imo.
Si Cooper
85 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:13:51
Hopefully tonight will be one of those memorable occasions when the form book goes out the window. Come on you Blues!
Minik Hansen
86 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:18:31
Hopefully! Please please, let us get something out of this game. COYB.
Derek Taylor
87 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:19:31
I have little or no faith in Dyche – he talks a good game but then employs the wrong tactics to get the best out of his team selection.

Be that as it may, we will need 34 points to survive and the result tonight will tell us if this non-scoring bunch are up to the challenge.

As ever with managers, Dyche can hardly lose. A £1M bonus if we stay up or the same amount in the 'Fuck Off money' if he fails the test.

Who'd be a Premier League manager, eh?

Bill Fairfield
88 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:25:36
Keep the faith.Get behind the team. Nothing else matters. COYB.
Graham Hammond
89 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:28:49
I felt that James Garner did relatively well at Palace, I think it would be harsh to drop him for this game as we need his energy and relative pace in that midfield.

He faded quite badly in the second half so maybe play him from the start and swap him for Onana after an hour. Being deselected may be the kick up the arse that Onana needs as he really has not done enough in games for me, and he needs to up his work rate and intensity, far too patchy and inconsistent, goes missing far too much.

If it isn't working with Calvert-Lewin, then maybe Gray can come on for him, he (Gray) is another player who needs to deliver a lot more than he has recently.

I think Iwobi is capable of positive work but he needs players to fucking move and throw him a bone, not our strong point though sadly, hopefully, Calvert-Lewin is awake and genuinely up for it, that will help a lot.

Disappointed that Dyche has not incorporated Yerry Mina in the past though, this may really bite us on the arse.

Christopher Timmins
90 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:35:45
We are playing an opponent who in most areas are better than us but we can make it difficult for them and, with luck on our side, we can take something from the game.

With Bournemouth, probably safe, Wolves, safe, and Leicester still to come, this is not make or break; it is without doubt our second most difficult game of the six still to play.

Ernie Baywood
91 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:46:32
It's not all or nothing tonight. But that doesn't mean that we can play like it isn't.

Leeds Utd's run-in is horrible. Forest's isn't much better.

We have games at home to Bournemouth and away to Leicester and Wolves where we could get something. It might just be enough, but it's going to the wire.

34 points is the lowest survival tally in Premier League history. I think that might be beaten this season.

Dale Self
92 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:51:04
You know at times, certain precarious times, I read some posts and get that feeling like someone is telling me it is raining when actually they are pissing on my leg.
John Raftery
93 Posted 27/04/2023 at 14:58:58
Newcastle's success this season has been built on winning 16 games out of 31 with 11 draws and only 4defeats. They have been solid in defence.

We don't score many. They don't concede many. I doubt it will be a goal-feast but possibly a game which will be won by a set-piece or a piece of genius. Here's hoping it's us which produces something special.

Kevin Molloy
94 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:02:00
Fucking Groundhog Day again, Do we ever escape this never-ending cycle of shite???

Such a litany of unforced errors has got us to here, and I'm not even talking about the kamikaze signings.

Why did we hold onto Lampard for a year? If Chelsea hold onto him for as long as we did, he will relegate them too.

Not buying a striker, in the Summer. Never mind, we'll put that right first thing in January. Sorry no, make that at the end of January. Actually, who needs strikers?

Useless, really awful. So now we get to drag their arses out the fire again.

Mark Ryan
95 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:06:58
Ernie @ 91,

The biggest issue is that, when you listen to the pundits and commentators describe the Leeds, Leicester and Forest teams in their last few games, they are all describing teams with potential goals in them and a real desire to play to win.

They are not describing teams that are running scared or playing on their nerves, like Chelsea currently are. They are describing teams who are looking to win.

I thought against Fulham and Palace we looked liked nervous wrecks. It's that mentality that might be our undoing. It has to be shackles off tonight to save our season and get the 3 points or we are fucked.

If Dyche goes all defensive, we'll play right into Newcastle's hands.

Christopher Timmins
96 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:11:56

Let's hope we can get the predicted starting 11 on the pitch and maybe improve it with Garner for Onana.

Denis Richardson
97 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:12:39
Colin @23,

There is iterally zero chance of Chelsea going down. Would need 7 teams going ahead of them, including 3 of the bottom 5 getting 10 points from their remaining games. Not happening – albeit would be nice!

Lampard holding the fort well there – played 5, lost 5 but he's 'more than happy' to speak to Pochettino to give him advice on the squad. Hilarious, I would assume Poch has blocked Lampard's number on his phone!

Brian Wilkinson
98 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:16:29
I am still relaxed and have a good feeling about tonight.

Iwobi to bang one in tonight, can feel it in my water.

Andrew Clare
99 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:30:28
When our best players are transferred and then cannot command a first team place at their new club it's a real indication of how far we have fallen.
I reckon Coco the clown could have down a better job than 'we've had good times' Kenwright and Moshiri.
At the moment everyone in the bottom 6 are playing better than we are- it doesn't bode well.
Tom Bowers
100 Posted 27/04/2023 at 15:59:30
We all hope for the best but realistically expect the worst and no surprise the way we have performed this season with the dross being shown on the pitch. Unless the defensive side of things come up big tonight I fear yet another disappointment.

We have gotten our hopes up so many times this season and even at home they continue to play badly. Maybe they can produce another tight 1-0 game like they did against the Gunners to get us off the bottom.


Peter Carpenter
101 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:07:05
Feb 4 - Arsenal 1-0 - more of the same please. Lucky 'Holy Trinity' shirt on. We have won bigger games than this. Come on. Give it everything you've got.
Gary Brown
102 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:19:11
Hopefully the team in the post for me too. If Onana and Doucoure can get up the pitch a bit it’ll give us a significant outlet alongside Calvert-Lewin for that long ball and crosses. With them 3 and the 2 CB’s we’re hopefully gonna have decent set piece threat too.

We need to start fast though. These have pace and energy and if they Nick a goal early we will be in shit.

Was tempted to say Jimmy G instead of Garner but with this amount of pressure let those who’ve got us in this shit get us out or be remembered as the ones who sank us.

Tony Abrahams
103 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:19:27
Is it true to say that you learn more from realists?

I like realists, but I hate defeatists, but not before the game on a ToffeeWeb thread!

Where’s the others? Come on all those impending danger characters, get posting your negativity now, it works sometimes, I promise!!🤞

Dave Lynch
104 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:21:20
I've no idea how this is going to pan out tonight.
One thing I do know is...if we get a drubbing it would be a fool to think we could pull survival out of the bag.

It's not in our hands anymore, all it takes is for teams around us to match our results and we're history.

Ps...im not eluding to Tw's being fools, I'm just being realistic. We've been here too many times and I fear have used up all our luck.

Jason Hewly
105 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:21:59
Keep it tight and try to pinch one.
Peter Carpenter
106 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:27:40
To the players; just come off the pitch with the fans standing to applaud you.
Paul Cherrington
107 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:39:17
Good luck to the lads tonight and here's hoping for that win we need badly right now. Trouble is it depends on what mood this group of players turns up in on the night.

If they fancy it, we could spring a win and perform well. If like so many games over the last few seasons (and even recent ones like Fulham) they don't feel like putting the required effort in, we're in trouble. Not many of them seem to have enough personal or professional pride to turn up week in, week out.

Makes it tough to say what will happen as I don't think the players even know until they run out of the tunnel. Here's hoping for that win.

David Currie
108 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:40:03
38 points needed to stay up. Got to win one of the next 2 games.
Jay Harris
109 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:53:37
Dave, it is still in our hands. Win tonight and then the others have to better our results.
David Peate
110 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:53:56
Bill Fairfield (88) The most sensible and succinct post on this site. It says it all. Well said indeed.
Dave Lynch
111 Posted 27/04/2023 at 16:57:50
Thats what I said Jay. "If we get a drubbing".
Here's hoping we can beat them.
Alec Gaston
112 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:04:46
100% behind the team tonight - COYB
Barry Cowling
113 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:08:10
This will be another game I shall be watching from behind the sofa. Will be interesting to see if he drops Garner, I can see the reasoning behind it but he does have composure and a calm ness and in time I think he can run a game but Onana is much more athletic and energetic and I wonder if he will drop Gray
Lee Courtliff
114 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:14:59
Goodison under the Lights on a midweek game...let's fuckin have it!!!

Good luck, lads, we're all behind you (and the sofa).

Rob Hooton
115 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:18:27
I’ll miss the first half helping out at a youth club as usual on a Thursday evening, and hope that I’ll want to watch the second half after finding out what’s happened so far on the radio on my way home!

Hope that Onana, Duke and Coleman can all start this match, I think it would be harsh on Garner to be dropped after his decent ish performances but Iwobi is the natural replacement on the right for Gray, who has been woeful all month in my opinion. Oh for someone to take their man on and get a decent cross in the box for Calvert-Lewin, who I thought did very well against Palace. We looked a lot more of a team with him up top, I think we are desperate for him to find his scoring touch again.

Nervous and excited in equal measure, I wish I was able to be there tonight roaring them on and imagine Goodison will be electric.

COYB, sort it out!!!

Mark Taylor
116 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:21:26
We are in the last chance saloon.

But with due deference to Dave Lynch 104, it's Happy Hour tonight

Mick Davies
117 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:24:02
Colin @ 84 Demarai Grey needs to show up. He has done nothing for the cause, imo.
That's a bit harsh, seeing as he's our joint top scorer, despite only recently getting back into the team, and being played out of position. There are many more deserving cases in the side than him
Danny Baily
118 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:27:34
Our situation is what it is, let's just enjoy the night. For as long as we're in it, I expect the atmosphere to be great. Our task is to stay in it as long as possible.
Gerry Quinn
119 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:31:12
Barry (113) - no chance as I have made "behind the sofa" my home for the last 2 seasons!!!!!
Martin Mason
120 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:36:19
Playing the defensive, no scorer, terminally boring Dyche-ball game that we play, the best we can hope for normally is a draw. Once in 20 games, say, we'll score and beat an Arsenal. Almost an act of God though. Draws are probably not enough now given that we have some games that look like Eurovision nul points. The odds are that we will lose tonight; of course we could win but that is unlikely yet we can hope and want and encourage. Please God, stop me going near the Live Forum later, could be mass suicides tonight.
Martin Mason
121 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:40:11
Barry@82, it's more comments from you that I fear.
Simon Dalzell
122 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:42:17
I'll definitely be watching from behind the sofa tonight. I'm not nervous, we've always had the TV there.
Peter Carpenter
123 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:44:29
122 - that had me lolling in public.
Kieran Kinsella
124 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:48:55
Gray is due a goal. He has that ability to score the odd worldie. Tonight may be the night
Jim Wilson
125 Posted 27/04/2023 at 17:55:50
Nice one Simon!


Andy Crooks
126 Posted 27/04/2023 at 18:22:45
Martin, if we had played Dyche-Ball at Old Trafford or against Fulham we might have got something from both games. We played Lampard- ball and got what we deserved.
I am in a state of wretched anxiety about tonight's game, I usually only feel that this before a derby. I will on to this site at 8.30, gradually pulling the screen down to slowly reveal the latest score, in superstitious angst. I was on the train today and greeted about a thousand magpies. This is awful.

However, someone can become a hero tonight. Every player can leave the pitch feeling proud. Redemption is on offer and our players must grab it. Let this night be a new beginning. Their hour has come

Dave Lynch
127 Posted 27/04/2023 at 18:35:03
Dyche should show them the video I've just seen on TV of Speedo Mick.

He's just reached a million quid raised.

That's fucking amazing 👏.

Colin Glassar
128 Posted 27/04/2023 at 18:37:38
If our lot put in a shift, we are more than capable of winning. But it's going to take 110% effort from every one of them.

The crowd can only do so much so Dyche had better take a good look into their eyes to see who's up for this.

Gerry Quinn
129 Posted 27/04/2023 at 18:39:27
And I bet Speedo has never worn a hoodie in training, Dave – that guy is amazing.
Eddie Dunn
130 Posted 27/04/2023 at 18:39:39
Playing five-a-side, so might just see the last half hour in the rugby club. That's a least one hour of stress dodged.
Paul Kossoff
131 Posted 27/04/2023 at 18:43:30
BBC says, Everton are unbeaten in their last eight Premier League games fixtures on Thursday (W4, D4). However, they have lost each of their last three midweek league games by an aggregate score of 9-1. Surely not right.

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