Everton crumble at Villa Park with Calvert-Lewin off injured

Dyche probably feels they played well enough last week to not change anything else. He's talking about being positive so let's see what he has them doing today.

Where is the supply coming from to Calvert-Lewin? Iwobi is dreadful can't cross a road…

Just got off the Live Forum, unbelievable, it seems we've lost already.

They will once again try the containment game which they are not good at.

Villa are different class, as are most of the teams in the Premier League.

Wondering when Onana is going to turn up?

That didn't look good though. Your face doesn't usually swell like that unless there's some damage.

Worst team in the Premier League by a country mile.

Calvert-Lewin should have been replaced immediately, but because some fans would call him names for being soft, he stayed on. The medical team shouldn't have allowed that to happen and the owner and board shouldn't have put this club of ours in such a desperate situation.

On the plus side, we might be the first club to go down on minus points.

I'm already resigned to dropping into the Championship after 2 games, what a sad state of affairs.

Our main counter... Garner, diagonal to Iwobi, Iwobi cross to Villa defender. We've created nothing.

It is only our sense of humour that keeps us going.

On a slightly more serious note, this is a true test of Dyche. Pointless continuing with the current 11. He needs to be a proper manager and tactician and make changes at half time which, at least, make us competitive. Why do I doubt it ?

The only people to blame for this current debacle, not this match, the whole situation is those who have mis-managed the club in the last seven years, it's an utter disgrace and it was needless.

We look like we've trained for it with the intention of playing a winger on either side of the pitch and then forgotten to make sure they got on the team coach. And how many managers does it take to work out that Iwobi is not too good out wide and certainly not a winger never mind a good crosser of the ball.

For the first goal Garner again let his man go and for the second I have to ask why VAR does not get involved when the Ref blows his whistle but does when he waves play on or are they of the belief that he should blow and then wave play on! Yes, I know, maybe because play doesn't stop but it does seem an aberration.

One and half games and we look like we've lost to two of those most likely in the relegation fight with us.

Whilst we are as open as this we will get beat every week.

The adverts on this site are slowing my phone down ridiculously.

Desperate times… but we absolutely have to make the required changes asap.

Why is he behind the front man?

Why did we let Townsend go?

Branthwaite has to start next game, Keane is finished. Sell Iwobi this week, he'll end up leaving for nothing next summer.

The biggest problem we have now is, will anyone want to join us?

A week ago, we could and should have won. Obviously we have manifold problems but there is a long time – like 36 games to go.

Like many of us, I'm getting on a bit now, I just want to see an Everton team that scores goals, it's been so long I've forgotten what it feels like (Martinez's first season was a one-off.)

Grand Old Team!

Just think... we could have now been watching us score in the Championship.

As I watch our 'Number 10' Doucouré fail to control a simple ball to feet.

Tired? Unbelievable!

We're a club going nowhere!

We've drawn a blank again today.

I think there's a very optimistic personality required if you're not thinking that relegation is closing in on us.

The team is well too short: right-back, left-back, centre-back, defensive mid, winger, striker … we need the lot!

Last week, Fulham beat us 0-1 at home, then lose at home 0-3 yesterday.

Villa lost 5-1 away to Newcastle, then thrash us today.

We're going nowhere except to the Championship.

Calvert-Lewin? Finished. Dyche is a joke of a manager.

We finally have a bit of luck, a promising centre-back comes back from a good side with rave reviews and all the big clubs sniffing round. And what do we do? We tell Coady to do one so Leicester can double their money, we sling the kid in the reserves, whilst putting the worst centre-back I've ever seen back in for yet another catastrophic showing.

If somebody had told me that we would have Michael Keane starting games this season at the back end of last, I genuinely wouldn't have believed it for an instant. What does it tell us though about the manager? It tells me he is complete fucking moron.
You've got one more game Sean. Lose that, and you are OUT.

Never in 58 years supporting this club has it been so depressing.

We need new owners and a board who know how to run a football club.

All the mugs on here saying we will finish mid-table. We will not and today is an example.

Wholesale changes needed but the squad is so thin and injuries make it transparent. No money for purchases. Dyche won't trust the talented but inexperienced youngsters.

Optimism is an oft used word but there do have to be grounds for it to exist.

Villa aren't as somebody earlier said one of our 'relegation' rivals, they'll finish at least Top 10, as they have goalscorers in their side.

Fulham might prove to be a result that comes back to haunt us, and now the next fixture at home to Wolves becomes even more pressurised than normal. First we need a goal, then we need a point, and the longer it goes without either or both, we'll be devoid of confidence and that's not what we need.

I know it was a heavy defeat, and that Villa took their foot off the gas, but at least most of the team kept going, if not to such great effect.

It's no fun being a Blue at the moment.

I forgot to say in my halftime notes that Gana had to be subbed but when Maupay came on I gave up all hope but he didn't disappoint and missed only one sitter this game compared to his three last week. I couldn't understand Dyche covering his mouth to speak to his assistants as who would want to listen to any manager whose team performed like that.

Danjuma and Dobbin tried hard and my choice would have been for Danjuma to move to the wing, which he seemed to, Cannon on as centre forward and Dobbin in midfield in the role Doucoure was supposed to have, supporting the main striker. And we must find room for Branthwaite as the defence was just a misnomer and in place of anyone who played today. And what was the point in Onyango coming on for the two of the nine minutes extra time.

Will we be in a relegation fight this season? I don't think we'll even rate a fight!

Drop Keane for Branthwaite, play Danjuma from the start, play Garner in the middle and hopefully, desperately, sign the striker, right winger, and ideally another right back as a minimum (plus also a defensive midfielder and central defender).

Maybe if we'd lost 1-0, they'd have simply said 'We were unlucky… blablabla.' But today has proven beyond doubt that we are desperately short of the quality required to stay in the Premier League.

10 days to sort the squad out…

Midfield is a joke. We need a striker but no point in having one because we can't get the ball to him. Iwobi had 5 touches and lost them all. Gueye and Onana on a Sunday stroll. and Doucouré was Bimbi on ice. Patterson a lost boy.

Big building job and Dyce isn't the man.

- Danjuma looks like he'll be a good addition
- We've still got 36 games left
- Next game is Wolves at home (already looking like a must-win – even though that sounds ridiculous 2 games in)

Negatives:

- Too many to list out.

However, if Branthwaite isn't played soon, I can only assume he's going to be sold. There is absolutely no reason for him to be on the bench. Should be him and Tarkowski in the middle.

As well as another striker, we badly need a decent centre-midfielder who can put his foot on the ball and dictate play. Onana and Gueye in the middle offer next to nothing offensively.

Iwobi looks like his hammy so he's likely out for a month, which unfortunately means he can't be sold and will likely walk on a free next summer. Only slight hope is we sell him to Saudi in September – their window is open till 20 September.

Overall that was a really poor performance and some of the goals let in were Sunday league defending. Many need dropping after that but we have no back-up.

If Man Utd offer big money for Onana, I'd take it and use it on a centre-midfielder who can pass and a striker.

I expected to lose that but the showing was really poor.

It looks like the weakening of the squad in this window (it's been made weaker with each successive window since Carlo left) is one step too far. We look dreadful.

Get Bielsa in… now!

Some real positives though: Calvert-Lewin's injury was his face and not his hamstring, Dobbin and Danjuma get a run out as actual wingers, hopefully Keane and Maupay get replaced by Branthwaite and Cannon because they were so bad, and maybe Dyche realizes that Gana's not helping us either.

On to next week, where even if we get battered by Wolves, hopefully half the starting 11 is different so we have new players to be angry about.

Hard to believe we could all be this pessimistic this early in the season.

We're shite! End of. We have already given ourselves a mountain to climb, tactically We're bereft of ideas, cannot defend and have no fucking clue in attack.

All this is down to poor recruitment and a piss-poor manager, who is no more than a mediocre Championship journeyman.

Before the usual suspects come on and dissect the performance with mini positives, there are none, we got twatted... again and went down with a whimper.

No doubt they'll all start playing again in mid-April when we are sat on 31 points needing 6 points.

Such a painfully insignificant club now are Everton, thanks to the people at the top.

Phil McNulty responded: You sound surprised. when the board and owner let the club rot, this is what you get.

What I'd like to know s where was McNulty, Dave Prentice and the media when us fans were saying it for years?

Oh, I know – in Bill's pocket.

Dyche is a one-trick pony. Not impressed. Don't know how to take throw-ins. I'm on about the Young throw in. Seen it every game.

One formation fits all. Danjuma broke away then had to wait far too long for back-up.

Unlike last season, I thought our cause would be helped by two obviously dross teams finishing below us, Luton and Sheffield, with us scuffing it out with Wolves, Bournemouth, Forest and maybe Burnley. But after that game, I think I'm being too complacent. The one team I imagine those bottom two would like to play right now is us and they'd fancy their chances.

As of now, we are roughly 2-1 to go down and in the bookies bottom 3. That looks realistic if not generous. This is just about as low as I've ever been, in 55 years of supporting Everton.

Danjuma was the only one who looked genuinely interested; awful performance

The defence is worse than last season without Coady and Mina.

The midfield is a fucking shambles. They do nothing defensively or offensively. The whole lot of them are shite: Onana, Gueye, Garner, Doucoure, Iwobi.

Danjuma should have started.

If Dyche goes back to Maupay up front on his own against Wolves with the three crabs in midfield, then he should be slung out with his P45.

It has taken only two games for Michael Keane to have a stinker. That might be a record for him.

Even Pickford had a poor game, gives away a penalty for one goal and then is nutmegged for another.

Out-coached and out-played we now have to hope that there are three teams worse than us again.

They cannot hold any team in the midfield area.

Gana, Garner, Iwobe and Onana are not strong enough and do not play well together especially when the other team has the ball.

Sadly Calvert-Lewin will be of no use now having proved he is a crock.

In hindsight, letting Coady go and keeping his faith in Keane is a bust but many of us knew of Keane's weaknesses already.

Let's see if Dyche has the gut's to ring in the changes and if not then the same old, same old results will plague us.

“Some real positives though: DCL injury was his face”

Haha, I get what your saying but reading that as a positive shows how we are clutching for straws.

Neil and Ernie,

I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned about relegation. I'm saying I'm surprised people are saying we are basically relegated after two games.

Harrison, Chermiti, Young, Danjuma must be kicking themselves - but I guess they've got their wages to make them feel better - Gnonto will go to Germany. Who with a sound mind is coming here? We don't even have the funds to bribe them with.

I am as low as I can remember so far as Everton go. Will NEVER switch allegiance but at least I've got Brighton only about 30 miles away.

I don't know why Dyche wants to sell him, there's a lot worse than him on display today, but playing Garner on the wing is ridiculous.

We need a right back, or put Young on the right and Mykolenko on the left, and can we bring in a striker before next Saturday?

Early days, but I'm not sure that was the best use of our precious resources.

"Oh, I know: bring on Maupye – he will save us." Well, perhaps not.

It's only after that shocking performance that he's realised that his pet, Keane, is worse than useless, but letting both Coady and Mina go shows just how much faith he had in a player we all knew isn't even good enough for the Championship.

The next 2 games are crucial for Dyche's future as Everton manager, as surely we can't allow another boss to carry on like a Carry On film until it's too late.

How many goals did Che Adams score last season? He has scored 5 times after 38 match days, his conversion rate (shots to goals) is 1 in 14. scored 1 in every 7.5 games. Why on earth are we trying to sign him?

He is fucking shite and always will be, for fuck's sake. Give our kids a go, Sean – you know Branthwaite, Cannon, Dobbin, Onyango…

This should be stapled to Dyche's and Thelwell's heads.

Did Dyche say he's seen the light 💡on Keane or is it that you being optimistic? I never thought in the dark days of Koeman's twilight, I never imagined he'd be a starter years and 7 managers later.

What's the point in buying Adams? Just a typical muscular built Dyche type forward who doesn't score enough goals.

I think you'll find Villa are a decent team, not likely relegation candidates.

Dyche will be gone at this rate and that is worrying.

I’ve always hated the phrase “Better than nothing/no one.” Che Adam’s is a case in point proving that indeed less is often more. In this case not getting him would mean more cash left in the bank (or less of an overdraft at least). He would add nothing but would further deplete resources. Likewise it’s amazing to think that with FFP investigations going on and the need for a bridge loan that someone at the club (Thelwell? Dyche? Moshiri? Kenwright?) was floating the idea of a new six figures a week contract for Iwobi just a few months ago. If we cannot get better players let’s save money by refusing to bring in equally bad players and or jacking up wages for poor performers already here.

And I hear one of our "fans" has racially abused a player on Instagram. A very bad day.

Amateurish mistakes were made with regularity. I don’t want to single a player out because there were so many of them guilty . The manager and players have a lot to put right.

It was dire to watch throughout.

Only Danjuma gets any sort of credit, looks like a left sided forward as his natural position, in the right set up will be an asset and get goals.

Next week against Wolves now has become of huge importance. We must win to get some confidence back quickly. Hopefully DCL will play with a protective mask. Changes to that starting lineup must be made, I’m thinking along the same lines as Christy above.

Pickford

Young Tarkowski Branthwaite Mykolenko

Garner Gana Onana

Gray DCL Danjuma

We need more threat and players who can score goals. Gray is the best player on the books for that right sided slot to do it, whilst Jack Harrison's injured.

I don’t want to see us set up for a KITAP1 against Wolves, and they go and do a ‘Fulham’ on us. We can take the game to them and attack with some pace it if the manager is brave enough.

The problem is (no matter how much the Moyes nostalgists hark for it) the idea that KITAP1 wins football matches in the modern era is so flawed it's unreal.

The way the ball moves, the technicality of the players… the only way to stop them is by offering enough threat at the other end so they can't flood at you.

His selection of Keane ahead of Branthwaite, and playing centre-midfielders as wingers shows a manager with only one plan and one system. A system that got sussed 5 years ago, and will result in plenty more 4- or 5-0 beatings and the odds miracle of Brighton away in between.

The silence from the owner and the chairman isn't good, as it makes us look exactly what we are, a rudderless ship, drifting along in troubled waters, with no idea of how to navigate our way out of trouble.

The man is so fragile it’s lamentable and might have some MH issues as can’t think of anybody who goes to pieces after a mistake.

I personally would even rather have Godfrey or even Holgate to this calamity of a footballer and hope that’s the last game he ever plays for us!

Pickford

Patterson Tarks Branthwaite Myko

Garner Doucoure Danjuma Young

Dobbin DCL.

I never want to see Onana or Gueye ever again.

And Ian,let’s engage in some non-ad hominem shall we? I would play Dobbin and Danjuma 442 up front with Dobbin likely doing a lot of drifting wide. Then Young in front of Patterson to help him defensively. The midfield I have to think about but Duke likely loses out. More as we approach the Deathstar.

Pickford

Young
Tarks (Capt)
Branthwaite
Godfrey

Iwobi
Garner
Duke
Danjuma

Dobbin
Cannon...and just give it a go FFS,be braver and take the game to Wolves!

Pickford
Young Tarks Branthwaite Myko
Garner Onana Doucs
Dobbin DCL Danjuma

Having lost to Fulham and Villa (by a street) means that it is unlikely that there is a worse team in this division. Relegation this year is a certainty, the question is whether Everton will get the lowest number of points in top division history.

There were more candidates for worst player; Keane, Onana, Doucouré and Gana among them. One had almost forgotten Doucouré was on the pitch until he was replaced by Onyango eight minutes into additional time.

The extent of the capitulation was alarming with the players showing a lack of heart as well as cohesion. Villa are a decent team with some very good players but this afternoon our players made it far too easy for them.

And why people are calling for personnel from the stiffs as the answer bemuses me. The squad is rammed with members of the "not up to it" club they won't make a blind bit of difference.

Need at least 5 competent newbies to have a chance of survival but as usual the summer window will come and go without the requisite action and the descent will continue.

2 games in and already hopes for 3 teams worse than us abound and the manager questioned - surely some kind of record.

The performance today showed a total lack of work and any preparation effort during the week at training. It was an inattentive and clueless performance from beginning to end from most of the players.

Dyche need not look at the players' stats for that game. They are horrendous. The message at Finch Farm did not get through this week.

Back to the same old same old - cannot pass a fucking ball, switching off, players in the wrong positions and the three stooges on the side line !
Too many bad performances all over the park - Dobbins and Dunjama tried...

DCL was brave with challenging - lots of players would have pulled out of that, I hope it's not too serious for him.
With the mess in the club at board level and displays like today is it any wonder why we can't attract players.
Everyone knows how desperate we are for a goal scorer and once again it could be we pay over the top for the Southampton lad who will not be the answer in my opinion.

(He doesn't know that Keane is still shite, like.)

How on Earth another few months have been allowed to pass with Moshiri and Kenwright making the same amateurish mistakes that have been going on for decades, frittering away more money on second-rate players and tolerating permanent injuries and lack of fitness by so-called professional footballers, God only knows.

This Everton aspire to be a joke, mediocrity is only a pipe dream. Everton have an enormous fan base second to none in loyalty and passion but it's being taken for granted and wasted.

Total change now is the only answer, only the fans can change it. If they continue to sit on their hands and pretend rejigging a bad hand will make any difference, then relegation is nailed on already and what a shocking indictment that is.
Those involved in this debacle should be ashamed of themselves.

On the cruise, I watched the Bournemouth game and spent the evening in celebration, with weirdly a lot of West Ham fans, as well as RS, Derby, Man Utd etc.

This is my lowest point, and I'm done with this club until they blow Bill Kenwright out of the water

I'm entirely clutching for straws and mostly being sarcastic in my search for positives!

Brainthewaite must be wandering how the hell he's not being picked.

Same players, usual let down. Yet Dyche continues to pick them.

Another Monday at work depressed.

Go away Everton.

Where is this so-called winning mentality, fitness etc.?

I very much doubt that any of the management team will look at those comments, almost a waste of time making comments.

No attacking from him at all. Poor signing.

No one wants him because he's more liability than asset. All the talk got him a fat, new inflated contract though.

Bring in Branthwaite.
Take out Keane.
Put Garner into the centre.
Take Gana out.
Play Danjuma and Calvert-Lewin or Maupay.

There needs to be a fresh approach and ideas. Danjuma looks like he could be the key but he's not going to fire us to saftey 30 yards ahead of the nearest supporting player.

3 supposed CM players are just not good enough, not creating, not defending, not delivering. Play Onana, Garner and Iwobi in there we can't be any worse. They need a bollocking!!

If he doesn't make changes next match, it will show that this type of performance is acceptable.

Today we were over-run, and the manager has to find a better and more effective way of playing. He too was poor again today, and his team selections were strange and proved to be mistaken. He needs to find some magic, and quick.

Tactics wrong, individual mistakes cost us rather than villa ripping us apart.

Just not good enough from all over the park.

It will be interesting to see who Dyche picks next week assuming Calvert-Lewin and Iwobi are out.

Onana was racially abused on Instagram.

Calvert-Lewin's Dad has posted on social media that his Son was abused and booed off after possibly breaking a cheekbone.

Shocking. Disgusting.

Hard to see these shithouses winning 10 games. Hard to see them scoring 10 goals.

Another reminder he is joining the many Everton players who have already been relegated including the manager (twice).

Iwobi, even though injured now, should be sold, considering he can walk away for nothing next summer, and before his injury today, lost possession every time and never helped Young.

I queried whether Calvert-Lewin was booed off on the live forum as I suspected his thumbs up to the fans on the way off was dripping in sarcasm. Best fans in the league?

If Man Utd want Onana for £60M, let him go. We cannot afford a project in midfield. So what if he goes on to be a legend? We cannot afford to wait, especially as a points deduction may well come our way in October.

Sell Keane, Holgate and (if he won't sign a new contract) sell Iwobi too. If nobody wants to buy Keane and Holgate, loan them out but get rid, as they create chaos for others when they are in the team. Go with Tarkowski and Branthwaite.

We need a proper right-back. Ask Arsenal for Cedric Soares. They loaned him to Fulham last season so there's a good chance Arteta may do us a favour.

As for the midfield, where do you start? We need a leader in there asap. I believe Garner is our best central midfielder so he starts every game. He is wasted at right midfield and in two consecutive games he has failed to track a runner and on both occasions the opposition scored. (Is playing practically all summer catching up with him?) Put him back in his best position.

We then have to hope that one of Harrison and Danjuma can do a job on the right from what we have aboard at present. Though Danjuma may be needed to play centre-forward until we buy a decent one that's oven-ready and not a project.

Gueye looks as though starting in a game is a bit too much when the opposition are passing and moving quickly. He may be better coming on for the last 30 minutes to shore things up if per chance we are leading a game or hanging on for a point.

Doucouré perplexes me. Sometimes he does effective things but at the same time he can look like a new born baby giraffe trying to sort out which foot goes where and he's only got two to sort out, not four.

Onana believes he's going to be a legend but not with us. He looks like he's capable of a lot more. Last season watching him run away from Arsenal's midfield maestro Odegaard was one of the sights of the season. However, a single glimpse of the sun does not make a summer and we need a hell of a lot more from a player supposedly on the up and valued at near £60M.

Continuing to play Gana, Onana and Doucoure in the centre of the park will lead to more defeats like today.

Up front… Jeez. Maupay should go this window. He is not the answer, especially given how Dyche plays the game.

For fuck's sake, go out and buy a centre-forward, loan one in or get in a Bosman but do something. If Calvert-Lewin is fit… great, but recent history tells us that is not always the case. He was very unlucky today but Everton comes first.

Replacements that shouldn't cost the earth:

RB: Cedric Soares from Arsenal on loan.
DM: Chavez on a Bosman. Mexican International a little cracker.
CM: McTominay on loan with an option to buy.
Use the Onana money to buy a decent centre-forward and decent central defender.

Aad a new board and owner!!!!

I'm not sure social media is a force for good and Twitter under Musk will get worse. But... that's for another day.

But sadly Dyche doesn't rate him and he will be sold sometime soon!

I thought that Dyche may be the answer but I think he is a Dinosaur in a modern world, and prefers brute force and energy to overcome quick thinking and positional play.

It might work, but there's as much chance that it won't. I'm not sure that Coleman has his coaching badges either. What certainly won't happen is that an outsider will come into this club and grasp the nettle and provide instant solutions, the damage has been done and it will take a long long time to fix.

I hate being an Evertonian at times like these, and I dislike it even more when Ian Edwards is able to bash the fans, due to some moronic idiots doing and saying what he reported them doing and saying.

Gnonto and Adams won't improve things either, the much derided Antonio provided more good hold up play and a nice finish for West Ham today, but he's not suitable or good enough for Everton?

And having a go at someone who's broken a cheekbone is beyond stupid.

Silence is golden from the board. Says it all.

I mean who in their right mind would want to sign for us?
Apart from anything else, if I believed in that sort of thing, I would swear this club is cursed, its one calamity after another.

They were odds-on today to beat us, okay we played poorly and got what we deserved but I can't say I'm that suprised.
We lost at home last game but I thought, apart from not putting the ball in net, we played quite well.

Injuries we can't afford already killing us and we do need to find some decent replacements if they're daft enough to sign for us.

It's going to be another "fasten your safety belts" season, but I thought that's what we were expecting.

But anyway, that was shite. Something has to change. We're not even recognisable as a team!

Pickford and Tarkowski… plus 9 new players.

You can change the manager as often as you like, the same players will roll out that type of performance.

We have zero threat – and judging on today, not many footballers. This side would lose against the builders XI from Bramley-Moore Dock.

I said in the pre-season, he would play Keane from the start and I was right. Keane is oblivious to danger, he can head it, but don't be expecting anything else. Seemingly despite stinking the gaff out for 6 years plus, he needs to shit the bed 5 or 6 times before he gets dropped. What's the definition of insanity again?

Patterson is a fit lad and can run around the pitch, but his delivery is poor and he has a mistake in him learning on the job. That's fine in a good team, but is costing a shit team dearly.

The midfield 5 is doing the job of a 3. Garner can pass, none of them can score, whilst the creativity, positional sense and tackling is sub-par. Some aren't even footballers.

Gana looks finished. His passing is poor, and his pace seems to have deserted him. That means he seems permanently on a yellow or missing in action.

The two ghosts of Doucouré and Onana were on the team sheet, but actually do anything meaningful? Forget it. Garner played some nice cross-field passes, but again didn't track his runner for another easy McGinn finish.

Calvert-Lewin injured again. He's shit out of luck with a dislocated check bone. Iwobi follows him and McNeil. Always our better players, isn't it?

So how does it get resolved? Signing players that have already failed and expecting another result is crackers. I watched Ché Adams play yesteday, and those happy for us to sign another average player will point to 3 goals in 3 games.

I'll tell them he had 3 touches in the first 24 minutes. Had 9 touches in the first half against a newly promoted League One side, and was broadly out of the game against a limited opponent.

He did score in the 94th minute, but if he's going to be our survival hope as Calvert-Lewin is again injured, I'll say forget it. Against bigger and faster defenders, he will be in their back pockets.

So 2 matches in, and it's purely down to whether there will be 3 weaker teams. This side has zero hope on breaking the cycle of failure.

With no money and a payroll that's in the top 30 in the world, we really are a lesson in how not to do things. Kenwright would be proud.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum. Broadly translated as Sunday Sky game of Everton nil.

Kenwright brought back Gana Gueye... a player I fucking despise.

Garner... looks good in spells.
Doucouré... should be our Midfield enforcer and still could be.

A midfield of McNeil, Doucouré, Harrison and Gnonto is what we should be aiming for.

You need leadership and real guts?

Guile override both.

A dinosaur manager?

Absolutely. Blood sweat and more tears don't even work in the Sunday league.

I thought the penny had dropped with Dyche over Keane at the end of last season, but no, Mina and Coady leave, and he’s back to picking the oil tanker again, which has proven to be quite costly.

I will support the club whatever, but I'm now looking ahead to next season in the Championship and, hopefully, a re-set with a new attitude and a complete change of personnel both on and off the field.

The worst team in our history.

Sell Pickford, sell Onana. They are the only current players that will bring in big money. Both are expendable.

Pickford is vastly overrated, while Onana will never be a footballer while he has a whole in his arse.

I was at Villa Park and, while there were a few who booed Calvert-Lewin, the vast majority didn't. Noisy minority.

Complete shambles. I couldn't understand the game plan from the kick-off and sorry to say we have a number of players just not Premier League standard.

I feel very sorry for our brilliant away supporters – they don't deserve what's being served up.

A good post and I broadly agree, and I'm beginning to think that the club should start the rebuild now, and so losing a few 'good' players won't do any more harm than keeping them here for this season.

Let's be honest: if the worst was to happen, none of them would hang around to help us climb back into the top league. From that perspective, take the money whilst we can get it, but I'm not sure we'll find many if any takers for those 'prized possessions'.

Just as if.

Ha ha ha ha.

Pathetic individual and team performance today. To think we still have 10 days to lose more players; outside of Championship players, we are not in the market for anyone. With this start, will anyone take a chance on signing for us? I know I wouldn't.

We have to get our first win next Saturday against Wolves; otherwise, it looks like a downward spiral until next May.

To think this is the first year I qualify for the over-65 discount on my season ticket, at present not sure I should have bothered. But, like most Evertonians, I will keep supporting them and 'hope' for the best.

A big shake up needed and that, sadly to say, may need a replacement of the manager yet again.

I know we can make excuses here and there but surely to God, enough is enough.

I find it a sorry state of affairs when we struggle to lure second rate players and then sign a washed-up 38-year-old full-back.

How is it teams like Brighton and Brentford can sign no-name players who compete much better than any of Everton's signings??

If this dilatory board don't act soon, then I fear it is finally sayonara to the Premier League.

There's loyal and there's fucking dumb! We need to boycott this shit!

It's bad luck, it's not another flare up, a set back or reoccurring injury the lad got clattered going for a ball.

Christy. Yes Iwobi is not our creative answer especially wide.
Embarrassing how many times he was sucked inside leaving massive gaps and not helping young.

It's bad luck, it's not another flare-up, a set-back or reoccurring injury the lad got clattered going for a ball.

Christy. Yes, Iwobi is not our creative answer especially wide. Embarrassing how many times he was sucked inside leaving massive gaps and not helping young.

Who do folk see as a potential alternative?

A manager and staff who haven't got a clue and a bunch of players who have done their best to get the club relegated for years, and we still look forward to the season with optimism!

Strange bunch, us Evertonians – if this had happened to our red neighbours, there would have been riots outside the ground and numerous fan groups lobbying MPs, the Pope and the UN… but we just shrug it all off and hope Calvert-Lewin will be fit in a few months.

Kieran Maguire (who has since deleted his Twitter page) and Sky Sports making jokes about a black arm band tribute to a deceased young man. Some guy called Anthony Speckman racially abusing Onana. People abusing Calvert-Lewin.

The club, press, government, social media etc need to do a better job of naming shaming and whatever else they can legally do to stop ignorant scum bags carrying on like this.

He looked nothing like Joleon Lescott. I don't know what game you were watching.

None of these major platforms should have allowed anonymity to be the go-to method of communicating.

So long as moronic brain-dead people can hide behind a made-up user name they will continue to spread their vile abuse and hatred without ever being detected, never mind punished.

It would be a failure in duty of care if Dyche selects Keane again, in fact, it would be cruel. I really did not expect that we would have a must-win game in August but we have.

Bring in a striker, win against Wolves and show some pride. Let today be the lowest point.

On the plus side, grandson Sam, playing in his unfavoured position in goal, helped his team win the pre-season Cup, scoring once and saving twice in a 3-each-side penalty shootout.

A point at home to Wolves at best beckons.

Maguire “quipped” that Everton were wearing black arm bands to commemorate their performance.

Sky team including Hinchcliffe were making jokes about how Dyche looked with his arm band.

I am going The Viagra.

We seem to have a problem going soft, so hopefully the sponsor can stiffen us up with a bit if blue.

Do you think he doesn't like us?

Hickson played sixty odd years ago, when the risks of head injuries weren't a even a consideration and players were reliant on playing to feed their families, unlike today's millionaire players.

I said earlier on this thread that Dominic should have left the pitch immediately following the incident; the fact that he didn't was brave but foolish of him, as another clash could have inflicted further damage. I'm not sure that the medical team did him any favours either.

Hopefully, it looks a lot worse than it actually is, and that the lad is back in the squad soon.

As for those at the game who gave him stick for coming off, I can only believe that they didn't realise that his face had come up like a balloon. And if they did, why do they bother going to watch Everton in the first place? We're all better off without that type of 'supporter'.

I don't think Dyche is a very good manager. He may be forced into playing the youngsters as some of the more senior players continue to underperform.

A black armband is instantly recognisable as marking a passing. The fact that these morons attempted to make fun of that is despicable...

Onana and a few more today didn't ease the worries we Evertonians carry with us daily. Very disappointing and discouraging, to say the least.

At least you have Charlie and Sam to take your mind off the Blues and give you something to smile about. I'm made up for Sam, his dad and his grandad!!

I'm sick to my back teeth of this "We'll be alright when Calvert-Lewin is back" bullshit, he's absolutely fucking useless when he's on the pitch.

The only time he has scored goals was when James and Digne were dropping it on his head 6 yards from goal. Since those two left, he's contributed absolutely fuck-all! I wish we could just move on from him, he had a decent 3 months under Carlo and nothing since.

Phil, if Onana won't make a footballer as long as he's got a hole in his arse, how will we sell him and who'd buy him? It's the wasters like Calvert-Lewin, Doucouré and Keane who should be fucked off… constant let-downs.

The Villa fans must have known why we were wearing black armbands as they joined in the minute's applause for the lad who sadly passed away, so how come Sky and its pundits didn't?

Maguire pathetically when called out said “I didn't know” why the team were wearing arm bands but, as Brendan points out, regardless of the person being remembered, there's no mistaking a black armband is a somber tribute so someone dying.

They know next week Goodison will be full, well it shouldn't be: it should be empty, we are all accepting the garbage we are and have been witnessing for years.

I for one will not be going, I am protesting by staying away. If all you moaners go and watch, how are things going to change?

We know we will win, lose or draw but we all deserve a team that's fit and knows how to play football. Don't forget how privileged these people are. This is their job, they do nothing else.

Despite being eternal optimist, that is possibly one of the worst collective performances I've seen in a while. Villa didn't have to work too hard for that, but totally deserved the result.

The only players I can give some sort of credit to are Tarkowski, doing it on his own, and Pickford, who kept the score down with one great save in particular. Although some will point out that his left hook that Bellew would have been proud of gave them the penalty to make it 2-0.

I don't like doing it, but Michael Keane cost us. He let McGinn ghost past him on a diagonal for the first, almost standing still in admiration. I don't know what he was doing for the 3rd, and as for the 4th, oh dear!

But let's not hide and blame one player. That was a poor team performance all around and we seemed absent of a midfield.

Two games in, 36 to go. It feels bad, but it's not the end of the football world.

I wasn't enamoured with him in the first place, he's tactically inept and will take us down

If a protest of absence is going to take place, what better time to do it than the Arsenal evening game, which is live on Sky.

If we haven't bought in suitable reinforcements and are expected to carry on regardless, there has to be some reasonable dissent shown by the supporters at some point.

The silence from the owner and the board cannot continue past the end of the transfer window. And you're right: in days of yore, many seats would have been empty, for many games, if the fare that has been served up recently had been served up then.

Unfortunately, I believe the ownership and the senior management couldn't give a monkey's uncle about the supporters, and they probably blame us for the state that we're in. After all, a number of people on this site believe that to be so.

I think the time has come now that no matter what happens, no matter how much we care and we love our team we have to accept we are no longer relevant

What happened in the past means nothing now and we will never be that club again.

Year upon year of of mismanagement and decline has finished us for good.

I hate to type this and it hurts like hell but were a million miles away from being a successful Premier League team.

Feel for the young man's family and friends...they certainly didn't deserve any controversy around his tribute at the game.

Not all on Onana though. The rest of the team were dire with just the occasional glimmer from Danjuma.

Clearly it was 'miles off' as Dyche said and it's been a wretched start to the season but sacking the manager (again) at this point would be about the worst thing we could do. If we're still playing that badly in a month or two then maybe that's another discussion!!

There is no one or two players, either those missing (Grey and McNeill) or those incoming (Gnonto and Adams), who would fix what happened today. It will require better work by the whole team and management. Which they are capable of. We saw this team (with less options) grind out results last season when the bookies favourite to go down and they can do again.

Beat Wolves, Doncaster and Sheff United and we'll be in the top 10 and through to next round of the cup! Hope springs eternal. Just about.

The players 'for the future' we've bought in at no small cost have not even marginally improved the team. (Was Onana playing today?)

The hope being placed on Che Adams being an improvement on Maupay is not based on any rational analysis of his career, it is merely another desperately misplaced act of faith. And, yet again, it looks like we will be overpaying. A cardinal sin for a cash strapped club.

The only thing that will bring an instant boost would be the immediate departure of our 'temporary' chairman and his Persian doormat/Usmanov dirty money laundrette. We might not win many or indeed any matches this season, but we would at least have some future to look forward to. I'd take administration and a points deduction now to get rid once and for all.

Under Kenwright we have been, are, and forever will be cursed. Time to put a Stake (sic) through the heart of this vampire sucking the life out of our club.

That's horrific. That's 4 players not even in the game. Too many passengers on this bus.

In a post last week, I described the place as having the smell of the charnel house about it. Literally, a charnel house is a place where bones and rotting bodies are stored, and more metaphorically it is a place of death, physical corruption and despair.

This club is just that. It is dead, decomposing and anyone anywhere near it can recognised the danger of being anywhere near it.

The players know it and show it by their lack of commitment, application and constant fear and incompetence. Anyone with any talent - Gray, Mina, Onana is desperate to get out before their career is wrecked by remaining onboard this footballing version of the Titanic.

I suspect that Tom Davies is the happiest man in football at being signed by the "likely to go down" Sheffield United rather than being at the miserable gulag that is Goodison and Finch Farm.

If it is to survive - and I mean literally "survive", not just avoid relegation or suchlike - it requires a revolution and the summary, condign and very public expulsion and humiliation of Kenwright, Moshiri, Alli, Gbamin and their ilk, and the regime of lickspittle courtiers that supported them - I don't know the details and names.

At the end of Hamlet, Fortinbras marches into the castle where the inept, murderous, pointless, worthless Hamlet, Claudius and the rest of the royal family lie dead having destroyed, for no benefit, everything they once owned and ran. In several productions I have seen, Fortinbras simple orders his soldiers to get rid of the bodies like the trash that they now are, and have been for the entire duration of the play. They are swept into the 'poubelle' of history and forgotten. (My apologies, I find the French word stronger in dismissiveness and insult than any similar English term).

Kenwright and his Biden-like stooge Moshiri must go immediately. The rest of the regime must be replaced from top to bottom. Players who refuse or have refused to train or turn out should be summarily dismissed and sued for return of wages taken under false pretences.

I very much doubt that anything can be done before this club collapses in the biggest and most spectacular apocalypse the sporting world has ever seen, but I have been supporting them for over 60 years. I have sadly passed on my affection to the club my father and grandfather supported to my son.

My affection has been replaced by a burning anger.

Strikers we have bought since Lukaku joined the club, apart from DCL. DCL has scored more than the other ten players combined and deserves respect not abuse. I can’t believe a few numpties would boo him, but I suppose every club has a few of this type of fan.

I just hope that this tiny minority doesn’t affect him and he understands that 99.9% support his efforts to get back and help us.

They need to save their dissatisfaction for the person who has run the club into the ground over the last 30 years, and incredibly still employed in a position of influence and power.

Also a board and recruitment who have been guilty of complete negligence over the striker situation for years on end. This incompetence is killing us.

Someone posted in 6 years since Lukaku left £90m spent on six strikers , yielding an entire total of 13 goals in all that time.

There’s plenty of damning statistics but this one if correct, to me is the worst of all. Surely it’s too bad to be true? I feel like this time round it’s the last chance saloon to sign a decent striker who scores goals. We’ve had two months to land one, now down to the last 11 days.

I tried to edit it 12 times so even I didn't know what I was doing!

Dyche is diet Allardyce. Graham Potter is available. Give Dyche one game to sort it out. If he can't, then act early.

The tactics of a succession of Managers have been negative and basically keep it tight and try and nick one.

I know everyone is entitled to an opinion, but some of the diatribe against DCL is disgusting. It's embarrassing to be an Evertoninian, reading some of the comments on here.

First goal - Ashley Young gets danced around as though too old for top flight footy (colour me unsurprised) and the ever familiar script began to be played out.

The second sees 2 Villa men unmarked in the middle of the goal with Onana, Patterson and Gana standing with their collective thumbs up their arses resulting in a pen that sees us dead and buried.

The 3rd has 2 villa players running into acres of space in the area attacking a crap throw in duly turned into a goal scoring opportunity by the ever charitable Keane.

Ashley Young then shows “experience” isn’t all it’s cracked up to be by mysteriously chucking a throw in deep into our most vulnerable area. Presumably to strike up some bizarre comedy routine with Micheal Keane as the lumbering lurch does his Charlie Chaplin act allowing the striker to beat him without laying a glove on him - 4 nil.

That’s 5 outfield players utterly out of their depth in a routine Premiership game. Doucoure and Maupay are desperately trying to join the club and DCL is starting his own called “if it's there I'll injure myself on it”.

Without meaningful transfers in the next few days we are beyond redemption.

If the players don't like mean comments then stay off social media.

I'm just posting my honest opinion on ToffeeWeb that these spineless, gutless, massively pampered and privileged pricks should fuck off somewhere else.

I also mean Sean darsh who has had his team all summer to prepare them yet they continue to play like this

But it's ok, we nearly didnt get beat at home by the mighty fulham so there is no cause for concern.

Shit show, top to bottom and I couldn't give a fuck if some people get upset by calling it out on here. Most of us have put up with this for years and have had enough. Stay away, boycott the wolves game.

If you keep going and happy clapping, you're part of the problem

We will never ever turn our backs on Everton. Ever.

As the saying goes, cradle to grave. I never knew any different, I never will.

It has been a frustrating start but we play Wolves at Goodison next week. Win that and it's looking a better picture. It's a long season, not decided on two games.

I've been in worse places with the club I love. We conceded 7 and lost the first two games in a season we won the league. Not a time to panic just yet, a long way to go.

The dark winter of 1983 when it looked bleak. Despite what I've witnessed in the 90s and the past two seasons, I think that was as bad as it got at the time.

Back then, I was taken to Church every Sunday and prayed to the great Evertonian in the sky to bless us. He did.

Anything is possible. You just never know what is around the corner.

A really disappointing performance today and we are all licking our wounds. But Wolves at Goodison next week. Go and get the points and we'll all feel better, with a lot more points to play for over the season.

If you're so disenchanted with Everton's pampered players, Dean, sell your tickets to the "Happy clappers." Or the thousands of Evertonians on the season ticket waiting list, who want to support Everton through thick and thin.

I certainly think not. Actually I am sure they wouldn't!

In my opinion, our squad is not as bad as the performances and results.

Just need a proper, flexible gaffer with fresh ideas. Not a bloody dinosaur.

Marcelino or Potter. Both are free agents.

COYBs

20 games under Dyche.

When Michael Keane starts..

P12, W1, D5, L6
- 8pts from 36

-Conceded 25 goals. (2.08per game)
- 2 clean sheets

When Michael Keane doesn't start..

P8, W4, D1, L3
- 13pts from 24

- Conceded 9 goals (1.12per game)
- 3 clean sheets

Why does he start?

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He’s an huge huge problem! And as someone else says, one of those defeats without Keane was the Anfield derby, the other was City at home.

You cannot put a positive spin on anything I've seen so far, that game and Fulham where rank shite end of and it don't look like it's going to get any better under this manager.

As for DCL, the lad took a blow to his head and had a decent nolly on his face, can't play like that.

It's game 2, all calm down. Villa got battered last week, they win this week.

If people thought adding Ashley young to the starting line up would suddenly transform us, you need to wake up, wobble your head and get in the real world.

It's the manner of the defeat that's the worry.
It's not panic Stations yet but momentum is so important if its negative momentum it's hard to reverse once started.
Too many players play when they feel like.
Iwobi, gana, Keane & dacoure are serial culprits when Patterson, young, onana and maupay are added to that we are a mess !!!

Shake it up Sean!!!
Branthwaite, start Danjuma, Dobbin
Give Mykolenko a go too !! Ashley young in midfield!!
Do something!!

I don’t know if Dyche saw a different side of Keane at Burnley but he’s been like this since he joined Everton. He seems like a nice, intelligent, committed professional but that is just not enough. Whatever mishaps the rest of the team have he always seems to go the extra mile and get that meme moment of the horrendous error. I’m behind Sean, but he has to forget whatever past experience he had with Keane and realize he’s been a huge liability under half a different very managers here. In contrast other players have been better or poorer under certain coaches. Keane aside from the odd goal has struggled in every formation, every tactical approach under vastly different managers. We have to call time on him.

The first two goals incidents leading to goals came from the area near Ashley Young(38) and Tarkowski (31) another goal came after an error from Keane (30 nearly 31). The sweeper Gueye(34) seemed to be exhausted and ineffective.

Mr Dyce if you had been watching the team across the road as well as Aston Villa last season you would learn that you bring on the older players later to keep command of the game you do not start with them.
You brought on younger players at the end of the game when you need experience??????

Yet you have a young international left back(24), an international centre back (21) one that Mr Ancelotti played in the premiership.

Last season you and every other person said very early on that we needed some new strikers and you have a bought a very good player but he is too young by your standards.

You have pissed off Gray(27) who has scored 9 goals at the same time your preferred winger is injured possibly for so long that you do not want to telly anybody what exactly his injury is, could it be an ACL?
You have made us a laughing stock and a pitiful sight chasing and offering a fortune for a player Leeds said will not be sold.

Our midfield is a joke Alli (27 and not nearly ready), Harrison signed on loan and out until after Christmas (saves Leeds Utd his salary), Gbamin who said he would never play for us again (sell him or fine him for his weekly salary), Gomes (30) who wants to play but costs us a goal every other game. No wonder Davies left he is far too young for this manager.

Todays tactic was pass it forward to DCL, no crosses for him hence he chased and got injured.

What is so inexcusable is that every position in the league is worth £2.2M and we have now lost 6pts that is certainly 2 positions at least.

Someone needs to explain to Dyce if he is sacked he stays and licks stamps in the office for his salar or leaves for nothing.. That is the root problem look at Lampard, screws us with Maupay and Alli gets paid off and takes a summer job at Chelsea to earn a bit extra.

Under Potter it would be a project and would probably get worse before it gets better. Seriously, how many of the current squad could play the way he had Brighton playing?

Looks like we're stuck with dinosaur Sean for the foreseeable; personally I wanted him gone after last season's debacle vs Fulham, which I likened to Martinez's West Ham moment.

The fact that he dropped Keane for the last 4 games of last season because of his continued cockups, which has been a feature of his game since he arrived and now chooses him before Branthwaite & even Godfrey.

What's that Einstein quote again?

Manic Street Preachers the 90s band caused Controversy by singing about cutting and self mutilation. Remember they got into a spat with Wales manager Bobby Gould? Clearly they share the Kenwright ethos of self destruction

And that isn’t a taunt. This is going to be one long and shitty season with plenty of time for attacking others or self-flagellation. So let’s be honorable chaps and talk about football with a few less insults. It’s been such a drag with the intensity of argument. I’m not saying feel good or any hippie shit here.

I know when it goes weird I’ve contributed to the overall vibe. I’m getting past that really.

So you think Dyche should leave. Soren has played well by suggesting two candidates. I’m certainly not a Potter advocate and he likely would not pick up the phone. A DeZerbi has been found and we all believe there is another out there.

But then we still have the problem of who is going to the turn the ship away from toilet vortex danger with THIS squad. We are still broke as fuck and Dyche is still the best game in town for survival given the constraints of managing this squad. With McNeil coming back and Harrison later it is not as bad as this feels is a plausible alternative interpretation.

That’s them. They had a song “everything must go” but on your changed the lyrics to “Bobby Gould Must go” as Wales manager. Then he started this campaign against them for encouraging kids to self mutilate etc. I was in Uni at the time. Never gave much thought to their lyrics pre Gould but used to sing a long at “greebo” night clubs in Manchester at the time lol

Spot on mate lmao

The team is semi functional. It has a shape of sorts, it can compete, it can even keep the goals against to a respectable level (granted that point felt more valid before the Villa loss).

The real issue is that we have to find a way to score something approaching an acceptable number of goals. I believe we managed 34 last year - that will absolutely send us down this year.

I've not seen anything from Dyche that suggests he's that guy. Pace and creativity is culled in favour of industry. I don't think he'd even claim to be that guy. He'll try to keep us up on the back of a tight midfield and defence... but in reality he's not going to make us elite in goals conceded.

I completely get that there are minimum standards of effort in a relegation fight. But someone needs to be able to do a bit more than that.

Improving our defence to being practically elite is a big ask for minimal reward. The low hanging fruit is scoring more. There's huge improvement available in that area given our recent scoring history.

We won't score enough goals from corners... so what's the plan?

A group of Everton players who are in the main at odds with the level of performance that the Manager was expecting.There is something fundamental wrong behind the scenes at Everton that produces a unmotivated and lethargic performance by the players.There is no interest, embarrassment, pride.

Sense of letting anyone down, or realization of the need to perform and work to perform to a required level. The Manager must be keenly aware of this and even sense it during training The fact that such a attitude exists and has existed for years at Everton is by far the biggest problem..I am sick to death of analysing the complication of sources of this problem.We all know it exists.It's the lack of honestly of the players regarding their performance and perceived lack of respect by the Manager. All on big wages, with contracts making sure they are compensated even if they have not produced the required performance that sticks the place out.

Dyche turning up in his kit to lay a reef for the worker that had died, I did not like. Call me old fashion, but for me it does show a lack of awareness of the respect required..

I think we have to see how Dyche does with his attacking threat fully fit - a firing Danjuma, McNeil and Harrison will make a big difference. He also needs Thelwell to deliver reinforcements within our budget - a centre-forward, creative midfielder, centre back and right back are needed.

Also, I am not sure how you plan for individual errors from senior players contributing to 4 goals - shocking and shameful. He can do something about the capitulation as the motivation after we went behind were unacceptable.

I think Villa will very likely finish in the top six or seven this season and their form since Emery came is excellent.

Fulham was obviously an 'easy' game and we would have won it had half the team not left their finishing boots at home. Villa away was a very tough game, though ultimately they did not have to play well to beat us.

Lets at least see how we do against Wolves, Sheffield United and Arsenal before we start writing off the manager, the players and the whole season.

Or they used to look down on us before they decided on their own boycott based on fabricated truths.

We can debate and discuss, but why it get's personal, I don't understand. We are all supporters. We may have different views, and I'm certain if we discussed them in person, it may still get heated, but not like on the internet, where people get brave.

Don't stifle the debate. But keep it sociable. Keep it respectable to different views and ways of expressing them. But stick together.

It's our club, not theirs.

I don't believe we can afford to pay off Sean Dyche even if that was plan A, and nor do I believe any player coming in will make much difference to the teams performance. Gnonto? Exciting in his Youtube reel but we ain't seeing much of that on our hallowed turf, and I don't think he's coming anyway. Speaks volumes about his mental health if he does.

Someone - may have been on this thread, or possibly the LF - talked about using Coleman and Baines to try and get a tune out of this band. Badges or not, could they not work hand in hand with Dyche?

I am not remotely optimistic about next week despite the slim hope that looking at the league table gives. Lose that and it will feel like trying to stop a car (called Everton), handbrake off, that's rolling backwards downhill towards oblivion with one's bare hands. That car's been stopped in past years by the combined muscle of the supporters but I just feel this car might be too weighty.

Firstly, respect and commiserations to the thousands who travelled for this shit-show. I don't know how you do it sometimes but I am glad you do.

I can't speak about the game really having only watched the highlights. I can say however that anyone who booed DCL is an absolute disgrace and should take a long hard look at themselves. As someone rightly mentioned above, this is not the behaviour of the "best fans on the planet".

We let ourselves down in such moments. Really its all displaced anger at the board, ineptitude, incompetence and years of crushing disappointment. When that is wrongfully misdirected towards the players we end up playing a strong and toxic role in ongoing spirals of failure. I wish people could see what is so clear.

I feel sorry for SD, he is obviously working hard to solve this and he had one of those days where the players just shit themselves and freeze. Too many of those and the fans will be wanting his head so this week and the next few games are vital.

Calls for us to sack SD are ridiculous. Potter wouldn't touch us with a bargepole BTW, if we ever do replace SD we should go in for the Ipswich Town manager who is really going places and probably the best, young managerial talent in the country right now.

Anyway, back to my defence of SD. Yes he needs to drop Keane, yes Brainthwaite's time is now. Hopefully DCL is back very soon and Maupay shipped out. We have Harrison to come in who will make a difference, Danjuma apparently played well. A fighter like Che Adams WILL make a difference and hopefully an electric winger.

It's very early days, let's get behind them and make sure our anger is directed towards those who probably deserve it. Bad day at the office and as Sam rightly points out, Villa away whilst smarting from an open day whooping was bad timing all round.

Let's dust ourselves down, pray to the transfer window God's and get some points on the board. COYB.

Will we ever score a goal?

Will we ever get a point?

Surely £3 million signing on fees to Zaha and Traore would have been doable and a lot more useful.

We just keep shooting ourselves in the foot!

What has really surprised me though is the number of fans calling for Dyche's head.

Personally, I think Sean has done a very competent job so far and last season, if you swap the Fulham and Brighton results, we did pretty much what you would hope for with this squad. Apart from that Fulham result, this is the first real shocker under his watch and he has mostly got a tune out of the majority of these players.

This season, Dyche and Thelwell must be held culpable for our poor start. Some of our players who we are looking to sell have been removed from the squad making us even weaker from last year. With McNeil out, the need for Gray, especially against Fulham, was obvious. If fit, they should be available; if leaving, then ship them out – but don't fucking affect our chances of getting crucial points on presumptions, they are getting paid to be available to play so fucking use them.

Last season, Dyche belatedly replaced Keane with Mina and our results improved. With Mina gone and no trust in Godfrey or Holgate, why hasn't Dyche been able to get one in of his liking? Most of us would love to see Branthwaite get his head and thankfully this result may let it happen; however, it is clear the manager only really trusts one centre-back at the club, a position he knows well.

I am hoping this day will be a blessing in disguise. Villa was always going to be tough. When I seen their teamsheet and bench, I thought “Jesus, this team is good.” The fact we got murdered and most was self-constructed may put pressure on Thelwell and Dyche and those above to act with more immediacy and finality.

Villa got hammered the week before, so hopefully we get a similar reaction against a Wolves team we really need to beat. In all reality, all we realistically have lost is the possibility of a point as the damage was done at Fulham.

Wolves will be a different game of fine margins so the necessity to have as much firepower is crucial. Over to you, Thelwell. Get these deals done and quick.

Perhaps the best idea would be to go into administration now, add up all the deductions, fire the entire “work”force, get bought for next to nothing and start again in League Two.

Hated last season! This season looks like it will be the same. Wake me up when it's over.

Whatever Dyche had in mind isn't going work with this bunch; he knows Calvert-Lewinsky is fragile and needs to find a solution.

So Wolves it is. Anything other than a home win and it's going to get rougher. The reality is so upsetting, no surprise everyone is angry.

This could be a very long season – strap yourselves in!

Too many mercenary players who are just in it for the cash, is no good. These players receive the same money, win lose or draw, and they know there is another pay packet when they move on.

I would take McTominay anytime over Onana, who in my opinion is a Championship player at best and maybe a lower division than that.

This is now the 3rd season on the bounce where the striker issue is causing a massive problem and no-one at the club who can do something about it has solved the issue. It's a disgrace. To then spend a good amount of cash on a striker who looks highly unlikley to feature much this season is even worse.

To be starting another season with an injuy prone DCL and non-scoring Maupay as our only senior strikers is not good enough. Why not give Cannon or Chermitti a try - they can't do any worse than Maupay.

Why is Michael Keane still being picked too? Again, the club just does not seem to learn from the past or move to fix glaring problems. I'm sure he is a good pro and a nice guy but he is not up to it at the highest level in football. He makes at least one costly mistake pretty much every game he plays.

Branthwaite must be tearing his hair out. Why bring him back from loan and leave him sitting on the bench, when it is clear he is a better player and needs game time? If we don't play our best young players or give them a route into the first team, they will be off when the first serious offer comes in - and we can't really blame them.

It's allowing the attitude to develop is the problem. For such players, Everton is a home from home.

We will get an acceptable player wheeled out during the week saying that the players will have to step up.

If Cannon and Branthwaite don't start next weekend then they should be sold given the transfer fees that other clubs are happy to pay for them. I cannot imagine such fees would be generated by the sale of some of the players who started or were introduced yesterday.

If we don't get a reaction next weekend we are in terrible trouble. Tony A may be saving himself a lot of hardship with his stand!

We are a shambles in midfield - radical changes needed. I would drop Gueye and Onana. In my opinion Iwobi getting injured may have an upside because it frees up a spot for Dobbin.

I thought Danjuma showed promise and Maupay put in a shift when he came on. He got himself into a goal scoring position and was denied by a good save.

It’s unlikely to happen but I think the manager needs to give some of the younger inexperienced players a chance and stick with them.

Pickford

Patterson, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko

Dobbin, Garner, Doucoure, Godfrey,

Danjuma

DCL

I was thinking we'd be fit, organised and tough to beat with every player giving 100%, even in defeat.

I WASN'T going to concentrate on the fact he picks his favourites like Keane regardless of how bad they play, or his refusal to pick youngsters over those who are "experienced".

Well so far, he's lived up to his shortcomings but has even managed to underperform in what we're told are his strengths!!

Yesterday was abysmal, right from the minute you could see the tempo of Villa whilst we started like we were half asleep. Again.

I'm really trying to support the manager, I loved his interview after the Bournemouth game, but he's making it very, very difficult. If he starts Branthwaite and Dobbin against Wolves then he might just save himself from losing a few more supporters.

Early days yet, beat Wolves and Sheff United and things look very different.

It’s called Kenwrightitis, Jerome. Basically, if the club is all fluffy and has no winning ethos or ambition from the top then there is little point in existing. As has been proved - we are just makeweights and have little reason to hang around (just to get beaten) a ruthless competition like the EPL. It’s the only logical answer.

Our biggest issue is that everyone is being played out of position.

Garner is not a winger. Against wolves whilst everyone is injured i’d have danjuma and dobbin on the wings. Not ideal but they’re wingers atleast.

Whilst getting a striker and cb are the priorities, a creative midfielder is a must. We have no presence through the middle. Garner, gana, onana, doucoure are all industrious but can’t unlock a pass for their life.

Branthwaite is the obvious one who should be given a go but Tom Cannon right now is not the answer so I don’t really see the argument. Throwing in youngsters in a relegation battle isn’t always wise. What we have needed for years is simple. Better players.

Aston Villa got battered by Newcastle to comprehensively beat us yesterday.

Any game of football is winnable. We can lose to Fulham, beat Chelsea and get 3 points at Anfield.

It's all unpredictable.

My original response was to this comment of yours...

'One and half games and we look like we've lost to two of those most likely in the relegation fight with us.'

I was disputing your claim of Villa as being likely relegation candidates. Still feel that's a ridiculous statement.

You now mention 'Not based on performance then?'

Based on last season's performances, Villa are clearly not relegation candidates. I think you might concede that. 7th placed, European competition.

If you made your comment considering Villa as being one of this season's relegation candidates based on one heavy defeat against Newcastle in their first match of the season, then OK, you are correct.

A game in which they apparently played well but lost one of their key defenders which may not have helped, but hey that's football.

However, they now must surely have turned their season around after inflicting the heaviest defeat of our season.

They've saved themselves from likely relegation and must surely be now considered to be chasing a Champions League place, as they currently sit only 1 point off top 4.

Obviously, that's a stupid statement as well.

I do agree with you re Fulham. They might struggle this year based on their performances at the end of last season and the one on Saturday.

General comment to everyone, not that people will take any notice of it.

There are 36 games to go..I know it's a disappointing start to the season. We have had worse starts and responded ok. All these knee-jerk comments are ridiculous.

Someone mentioned Jack Harrison might be out til Christmas. Based on what?

Until this is sorted out we, the supporters, will continue to be the victims of the incompetent way the club has been run, and yet those with the guardianship of the club stay away and allow the rot to spread deep into the core of how the the team operates, we are near the edge complete collapse on the field and off it and there doesn’t seem to be anyone offering any solution to end the destruction of the club.

If the squad is left the way it is in the next ten days then it will hasten the fall from where we stand now.

No wonder there is frustration and anger among the fans as those supposed to be running the club stand by and do nothing while the business rots away.

A bit dramatic some will say but I think that is where we are at the moment and it will wither away without some action———immiediatly.

We are left needing a right back (Patterson is not good enough for this level and needs replacing like Myko has been), a CB (that Dyche will actually play instead of Keane, or at least be the back up should Branthwaite actually be given a chance), a playmaker and a Striker. Not much then……

McNeil is still our best winger, which is terrifying. Harrison may take that role but we'll see. We've replaced Simms with Chermiti, Gray for Danjuma, and looking likely Maupay with Adams. Does that really improve us in any significant way?

We can probably agree Young is better than Mykolenko but he's 38 and Harrison is an extra player which is a bonus.

Gnonto would be a wild card but the £30M rumoured fee is a tough one to stomach. They must be hoping he improves dramatically this season.

Overall, I still feel the squad is weaker. At no point should Dobbin, Gomes, Onyango or Cannon be in contention. Keane is a starter and currently garner is our right winger.

It is not courage, it is tenacity in players that symbolises an Everton player.

Anybody remember the mid-week FA Cup derby classic: 4-4 many years ago, behind twice and came back? The FA Cup derby final, where we should have won but for the cheating "It did not cross the line" claim, years before goalline technology came into play?

Players like Kendall, Reid and McCall who simply did not give up.

If you watched the Chelsea game yesterday, they only had one player with that trait and he kept coming back to help the retreating Chelsea defence and twice made great tackles and then moved straight back into attack with the ball.

Doucoure and ironically Gray are the closest midfielders to that ideal. Similarly Branthwaite, Patterson and Coleman are defenders of the same ilk.

Take one look at West Ham: it is "never say die" for their players.

I am disappointed with Maupay. He and every other player should embody that spirit and practise target shooting for an hour every day after training and he should remember that our defence starts at their goal line. He should follow the Rugby spirit, tire the defenders out by constant running and make the job easier for any subs that replace him.

Thank you.

The Chris Hockenhull "superbloo" is just another pissed-up clown with comprehension issues.

Everyone is entitled to a good old strop but only a delusional prick fabricates this sort of bollocks:

"Instead of making out that an Everton player…. Yes, an Everton player wants to be injured".

Or he's just a lying get.

Only two of the starting XI yesterday were signed by Emery with most being Dean Smith signings. Shows a manager doesn't necessarily have to start from scratch and sign a whole new squad. That is unless a club has signed a long line of duffers, which maybe we have.

While we are in dire need of a creative midfielder and a striker, for the rest of it, Dyche is going to have to get more out of what he has, particularly defensively which was atrocious yesterday.

You guys who go, week-in & week-out, come rain or shine – how do you feel about being kept in the dark about the very players that you pay out a lot of money to see?

Gray – Why isn't he playing?
McNeil – What is his injury?
Gbamin – Where is he?
Alli – What is the injury? – Will he play when fit?

These questions may have been answered already. But as customers (I hate that word, but will use it in the context of this post), shouldn't you have at least an inkling as to what is going on at the very club you pour your hard-earned finances into?

I know the club have to maintain a certain opaqueness, but to this degree? Am I very wide of the mark here?

Dyche tried all sorts of games and methods to boost the spirit of the players. It seemed to work but we, Everton, The School of Science, do not seem to be testing the tenacity of the players in any psychological way before they join us.

Tactics are the most important thing after tenacity. Study history and you realise that Patton, Wellington and the commander of the first siege of Tobruk did not have the best soldiers; instead, they had tenacity and the best tactics.

Study football and you realise that Pep plays 'keep the ball and don't rush it' tactics and Klopp plays 'control the field' tactics and positions a lot of midfield players if possible about 25% into the oppositions half, forcing them to play longer and more inaccurate passes.

Both managers are able to take reasonably talented players and get them via training into the manager's preferred style of play very quickly.

I don't think I have ever heard Pep or Klopp blame their players; instead, they realise it's their deficiencies in training that have let the team down.

This season, we're looking very poor, as if they've never seen each other before, let alone played together. We're now shipping goals and still weren't looking likely to score even with Calvert-Lewin on the pitch.

The board and team knew what needed to happen following last season, yet appear to have done nothing about it.

I have read quite a lot of derogatory remarks about Calvert-Lewin, and yes - he showed real toughness yesterday just to carry on. People forget that as a young man he cut his teeth in the lower leagues playing against some really dog tough defenders.

However, he has a manbun, is into fashion, and wore some feminine clothes – so he must have no grit or toughness about him – right?

I spent many years in the fight game with Thais and Japanese fighters amongst other nationalities. You could meet a fighter who was 8 stone wet through, smiley, slightly feminine and androgenous looking who'd turn the average would be 'tough guy' inside out if the occasion arose.

We have a certain misguided preconception here in the West of what constitutes 'tough' and what it should look like too! Calvert-Lewin is a tough man by the average standard.

I recall Man Utd once having this player. Long hair, loved the ladies and a drink, opened a fashion boutique. One of the toughest players I ever saw.

Sunday Times once showed a photo of him just wearing his Bill's. Legs and feet a mass of cuts and bruises. George something… 🤔. Could play a bit as well.

My dad was site manager for the development of that Boutique (he worked for Laing) and I was at the opening of the shop when Bestie turned up in his Lotus…

One, maybe?

Buying another player or two will not solve the problems at Everton Football Club. All those managers, all the money spent and wasted, and now we have a bunch of players who've forgotten how to play football.

My sympathy goes out to those loyal supporters travelling to away games, and likewise to home supporters who have to endure this crap on a weekly basis.

My answer is sign the England Lionesses – they'd put on a better show than the crowd of misfits we have posing as Premier League footballers.

Whilst that brings certain pressures, there's nothing like being a youngster coming through in a team that is performing indifferently and at the bottom of the end of the table.

Managers like Sean Dyche may not want to risk him in such an environment so may not play him.

I haven't seen enough of him to judge, and the way it's going with our club, he might decide to seek playing time elsewhere.

Branthwaite may reflect that perhaps he should have stayed at Carlisle a little longer and gained more experience.

I feel sorry for younger players these days. Football is a different beast these days.

I think the last 2 central defenders I saw come through as younger players and who you could see that they had something were Tony Adams and John Terry.

Yes, agreed on tenacity – but perhaps courage and tenacity are byproducts of each other?

Those personality traits are why I picked Dobbin and Godfrey on the right and left of a midfield four – not as wingers. Patterson and Mykolenko are made of the same stuff.

My view is that we don't have any talented players so we might as well play fighters. I can't see any other options as things stand at the moment.

As for the knee-jerk reactions to the match, I do understand some of it, but I for one maintain a bit of faith in Dyche. We're only 2 games in. It's clearly going to be another slog this season, but we knew that already.

It's dead easier being reasonable if you're hundreds of miles away like me. And I'm not being reasonable!

There's no defending yesterday and no one's trying to. I get some small comfort from more optimistic posters and try to get a bit of context.

Also, I'm quick to condemn supporters who berate the players at the match, but, hand on heart, had I paid a fortune to be there yesterday, I would have burst a million blood vessels.

Finally, Keane must be dropped – for his own and all our wellbeing.

Garner, Gana, Onana, Doucouré are all industrious but can't unlock a pass for their life.

You obviously never noticed the defence-splitting pass from Garner to Danjuma that almost produced a goal? This was because Garner came infield for once as he's wasted out wide.

Branthwaite is 21, the same age as Gvardiol at City, Al-Dakhil at Burnley and slightly older than Colwill at Chelsea and Zabarnyi at Bournemouth. All centre backs. If he’s good enough he’s old enough.

We are 20 leagues games in with Dyche his record is 1.05 points per game and a goal difference of minus 15, so yes if he maintains this we will hit 40 points and be safe, hopefully, if there are three worse teams?

It’s not just about yesterday, the football his teams serve up is awful, that was true at Burnley and it’s true here. We were lucky to stay up and he pocketed 3.5 million for us getting lucky. All this BS about fitness and attitude is just that BS as the ragged performance proved.

His stubbornness over playing and not playing certain players is legendary e.g. Keane and Gray? We are being led by myopic dinosaurs at board level and it’s our beloved club that is heading for potential extinction.

Fans need to start turning the back on these people and start hitting them in the pocket. Nothing else will get rid of them.

Mr Mosh you deserve to lose every penny you have because I'd rather you slept at the Sally Army Hostel than EFC Ltd went to the wall because of you two B'stards.

Dont talk about that old chesnut the style of football, maybe if he had better players etc.

Its winning matches fans want, not fannying around, keeping possession boring stuff

Dyche has likely set up this season’s whole approach to avoid the type of result experienced yesterday. That has blown up but I will still argue it was the proper odds on way to prepare the introduction of Danjuma, Dobbin and Branthwaite. Now we have to bring them all in under pressure but not just for their personal form but for results.

There will be some who say “Good!” I don’t think these people are thinking about downside risk as much as they are thinking ‘we have to try something different’. Chances are the young ones may step up with some mettle and we gain some future options by taking that risk now. Just remember that isn’t the same as a development plan. We have some capable athletes who failed that test.

So yes we need to do something to increase goal attempts through ordinary play less dependent on counterattack. The problem is sustaining defensive form when we introduce younger players and we were not settled enough in Dyche’s opinion to think about opening up until McNeil returned

We now get to see the Dyche unknown. I am not sure of his magic bag but his talk will not make anyone a scapegoat He will keep the team unity by not outing individual players and talking as straight as possible without throwing players under the bus.

I think it is our only option.

You don’t need a world beating squad to play attacking football, I don’t know how you extrapolate a love of Man City’s style of football from my post (as good as they are I find much of their football stultifying). Being an old get I do know that our home performances of the last 6 or 7 years would have been treated with avalanche of cushions back in the day.Football isn’t just about winning games, otherwise Goodison would be empty given the dire results and performances over many years. I think if Brighton, Brentford can manage to play attractive, attacking football, then Everton can.

We urgently need:
A "fit" goal scorer
A creative midfielder
And if we can afford, a Central Defender.

NB: Gueye is finished and needs to be replaced ASAP.

https://chng.it/jDHVrJhd

The player should not be allowed to return to play for at least 6 days after the injury (it often takes longer than this) and in strict accordance with the return to play guidelines (above). This will include a return to baseline of the SCAT 3, or web-based, neuro-psychological criteria. A baseline profile will be available from the pre-season assessment.

I went to the game and although there were indeed some boos aimed at Dom, I think they were borne from a mix of frustration, ignorance (of the actual injury) and anger at not having a decent back up to bring on. All of which are understandable although booing him was still out of order.

It was pleasantly surprising then, to me at least, when Maupay got a decent reception.

My point really is that I think we can all be too quick to judge at times.

We should save the boos for the board and owner and get behind the team. They need our help once again. I was as pissed off as anyone after giving up yet another day to watch that rubbish. Tell you what though, I will be there again on Saturday with 36k others willing the team on.

UTFT!

All this is adding up to portents of doom.

Wolves is now a massive game early in the season. At home against another possible relegation candidate, we have to win. A draw isn’t good enough, we need three points at home against another bottom table team.

The current landscape is patently ugly. Turn this ship around quickly or we will sink.

We can't afford any of them mate!

Adams

Danjuma Doucoure Dobbin

Onana Garner

Young Branthwaite Tarkowski Patterson

Pickford

Long term, when everyone is fit,

Calvert-Lewin

McNeil Danjuma Harrison

Onana Garner

Young Branthwaite Tarkowski Patterson

Pickford

There is no point changing managers now. The fact is that everyone who comes to the club, be they players, managers or directors of football, arrive with good reputations but then deteriorate and go backward when they are here. If Pep Guardiola and Lionel Messi signed on, they too would probably fail.

Something more fundamental is wrong with the club. What it is I don't know, but it coincides with Kenwright's tenure and has gotten worse since Moshiri arrived. That is the place to start.

I'm not sure, why Dyche didn't do something about it, but sometimes managers have their own way of setting up and refuse to alter it, even when the opponents are causing problems for the team they manage.

I'm sorry to hear about Calvert-Lewin and I can't believe he was booed by some supporters. A broken cheek bone can be agony, yet the lad played on. It says a lot for his bravery. Get well soon, lad!

I wasn't expecting many points until the end of the window and look at each point as a bonus. I don't understand why anyone thinks us playing Aston Villa, (or Wolves or Fulham for that matter) are easy games for us. We are disjointed and missing McNeil and Harrrison, who both give us a lot of skill, they'll give us goals and they'll make chances.

Danjuma has already shown he will be a plus for the squad. and I'm sure Harrison will be the same for us. I don't know about the young lad we've bought but hopefully he'll be a plus as well.

I was having a conversation via WhatsApp with Brian Wilkinson last night, and, like many, he was not feeling very positive. I ddin't see the match but, even before the game, I thought we'd be very lucky to get a draw. I was hoping at best that we'd get a draw but could see us getting tonked 3- or 4-nil and hoped it wouldn't be a slaughter of 6- or 7-nil.

We are a disjointed. Dyche and Thelwell have to make the best of what we've got and bring in players while having (I imagine) bugger all with which to carry out the recruitments they would wish for, and sell, or loan all those they'd want to see gone.

It seems to me they've made a decent start with Harrison joining McNeil as an attacking player who can also get back and do defensive duties. Danjuma looks a bright player, knows where the goal is, and is not afraid to put the tackle in either. So those three players are, for me the makings of a better midfield and attack.

When I say I feel we've got a disjointed squad, I think there are players in it who are not right for the positions they usually play in. I don't think Onana is anything like what we need in midfield and looks like someone keeps switching his battery off. We can't afford to have anyone go missing like he does. For me, he plays like someone who thinks he's better than he is.

Then there's Doucouré. He's scored some great goals for us, but missed just as many sitters, like he did against Fulham. He can't control a ball anything well enough for a Premier League player and Iwobi? He does loads of running but to what effect?

In my view, our midfield with these three in it are not good enough, neither in defence nor in attack. I think Garner could be a much better player in the middle with a better group of players around him. I think, with McNeil, Danjuma and Harrison plus Garner, we would have a decent mobile and atttacking midfield. I haven't seen the young Italian lad play but assume he's decent.

I think a lot of us are looking at Keane and thinking "He's not good enough and turns like the QE2". Maybe he'd be better as a sub up front!

I don't think Patterson is ready for the Premier League and hope Seamus comes back very soon, or else we need a better right back… now.

I think that from what I've seen of Young, he'll do a decent job... for now! If we could sell Iwobi, Doucouré and Onana I wouldn't be crying in my beer if we could use the money raised to improve the squad.
As we're (I assume) extremely short of money, my guess is we let Coady go because we'd have had to have paid £4 million for him … shame that.

This is the team I sent over to Brian with a bit of luck on the injury front and two or three players coming in, we might have:

Keeper; Pickford (though if we'd have kept our previous reserve goalie, and Pickford was sold, I wouldn't scream at him going.

Defence
RB Coleman
CB Branthwaite
CB Tarkowski
LB Young

Midfield
McNeill Garner Gueye Harrison

Forwards
Danjuma
Gray (if we don't sell him. My view, he's a better goalscorer than given credit for, and in a fluid midfield or attack, I think we'll get more goals.)

Subs:
Cannon
Chermiti
Doucouré (if we can't sell him)
Onana (same as above)
Iwobi (if not sold)
Godfrey
Patterson
Mykolenko
Dele (if he can recover).

Plus whoever we can bring in with the sale of those pointed out.

Here's a story about an Evertonian who sadly lost his life very young. A relative and second cousin.

One of the pictures shows a very young Anichibe in a Royal Marines training camp he arranged for the Everton Academy at the time. Ben Nowak is right in the centre of the picture..

Lifelong Evertonian for as long as his short life lasted.

Link

I've been an Evertonian since 1964 as a 13-year-old and, to echo your comments, we carry on through thick and thin!
However, the current situation takes some stomaching.
I don't blame Dyche for our current financial position, I blame 1 person and it's not Moshiri.

Who is actually supposedly handling transfer negotiations?, Thelwell or Kenwright, and on deadline day, Kenwright will say we tried as best as we could!!! Same old, year-in & year-out.

Bill, just go!

What's happening with the Adams transfer? Gnonto – total farce from £4M to £30M in one year… 😂😂😂

I bet Wolves can't wait for Saturday… 🤞surprise me!