West Ham United 0 - 1 Everton

Everton traveled to London where they burst David Moyes’s West Ham bubble at the London Stadium with a top-drawer winning goal from Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

Ashley Young sat this one out after getting two yellow cards at Anfield last week, with Seamus Coleman, Dele Alli and André Gomes still recovering from injuries.

Harrison and Garner started after coming off at half-time last week. Gana was on the bench where Mackenzie Hunt stepped up from the Under-21s but remained uunused. Michael Keane was initially named on the bench also but had to leave for family reasons half-an-hour before kick-off, with Sean Dyche choosing the safety of two goalkeepers, adding Andy Lonergan in his place.  

Everton pressed high from the off, keeping the home side mostly penned in their half without fashioning any threat on their goal. In the 5th minute, they had to staunch the first Hammers attack before McNeil got forward to make Everton's first cross.

Antonio almost got in behind but his cut-back was smothered as Everton's long-ball probing was achieving little and the home side started to slow the pace down. But a quick ball over the top almost found Bowen with Kudus asking questions and winning a free-kick, earning the first corner that was repelled by Calvert-Lewin.

Branthwaite showed an excellent turn of speed to thwart his man down the wing but Everton were not using their possession very well, Calvert-Lewin unable to control a nice forward ball to feet.  

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Some snappy passing saw a great Everton move down the right that ended with Calvert-Lewin straying offside as he received and then lost the ball. At least he was getting the right side of his defender.

A Patterson error allowed Paqueta to set up Bowen but the player messed up his shot. An excellent Harrison steal looked like it had to be an Everton goal but his shot at Areola was poor.

There was a bit of a brawl after Tarkowski tackled Kudus firmly to finally spice things up a bit. Pickford was booked for getting involved with Kudus who jumped up fit as a fiddle after feigning injury. He was rightly booked as well. 

Mykolenko then went down after being stamped on then Kudus went down and won a free-kick. Calvert-Lewin finally got some forward ball and Doucoure won a corner that looked like it could have led to more at the far post before being cleared.

Everton forced a good turnover and the ball sat up for Harrison but his left-foot shot on the spin was horrendous. Everton pressed again but could not fashion a chance. They kept breaking up the West Ham counter only to suffer from a repeated lack of continuity in their own forward moves. 

More tenacious Everton play saw Mykolenko swing in a decent angled cross that flew high and wide off Calvert-Lewin's head.  Onana got tapped on the head by Kudus's flailing hand and needed treatment for a head injury (!) along with 30-second sin-bin. 

Some good work saw Everton build a ponderous attack down the left, Mykolenko with another cross that Onana could only head wide. Garner tackled Bowen superbly after McNeil had gifted him the ball. 

Everton will get credit for a workmanlike and industrious first half but ultimately, without at least one goal – they should really have had more – it was extremely disappointing fayre.

West Ham looked a lot more lively from the restart, Branthwaite getting a meaty thigh on a goal-bound shot from Bowen. West Ham got a foul when Kudus stood on McNeil's foot and Bowen almost scored again, heading off his shoulder.

Everton won a free-kick of their own but created nothing from it. But a fabulous interception by Branthwaite helped to force the ball forward Harrison playing a neat one-two with Calvert-Lewin who produced a top-drawer turn and strike just inside the post. A very very good goal. 

West Ham were suitably exercised, Bowen trying a difficult strike at the far post that flew over. Branthwaite tacked Antonio superbly but again bizarrely considered a foul, Paqueta's acrobatic strike going back into midfield. 

Everton tried to get forward but were their own worst enemy, playing themselves into trouble and backwards before West Ham built an attack with Alverez shooting over. 

Doucoure got free onto a headed backpass but, with only the goalie to beat,  he didn't connect properly and Areola was able to parry it just past the post. Another incredible Everton chance squandered. 

West Ham won a dangerous free-kick, Tarkowski getting annoyed with Alvarez jumping in with both feet. Mykolenko did brilliantly to win the ball and set up an attack which initially went backwards but the attack eventually saw McNeil's strike tipped over the bar by Areola, with nothing coming from the corner. 

The Hammers built another attack, Branthhwaite having to stall Bowen for a corner, with the ball coming off Onana's arm: no penalty. Branthwaite again did superbly to frustrate Paqueta, Patterson adding salt that saw the Hammers man pick up a yellow card for his protests. 

Garner seemed to get free but couldn't fashion a strike and ended up chipping the ball back to Areola. West Ham won a corner but it was defended well by Everton. Benrahma tried a cross that was easy for Pickford. 

At the other end, Calvert-Lewin got free and smashed his shot off the underside of the bar but he was just a fraction offside. Benrahma was booked for a poor challenge from behind on Garner. 

Pickford made an incredible point-blank stop from Paqueta but he was offside. Onana did well to stop a West Ham move as the game entered the last 10 minutes of normal time. As West Ham searched for their goals, Branthwaite was an absolute rock in the Everton defence. 

Kudus got free but pulled back straight to Onana who could clear, Alverez fouling him for another West Ham yellow card.  Everton were having to soak up almost continuous pressure now, Alverez shooting over. 

Pickford had to palm over a deep hanging cross as things became increasingly ragged in the Everton area while Calvert-Lewin looked to relieve the pressure, almost setting up Harrison for a tap-in. The Everton striker then made way for Youssef Chermiti.

Benrahma powered in a fine volley that Pickford parried superbly, even if it was possibly going wide, as Everton needed to hang on for the final 6 added minutes.

The hugely determined Blues did their best to get the ball away from their goal but it just kept coming back, forcing 11 men back and denying any outball. A late Ings cross was gratefully held by Pickford as Branthwaite was rightly accorded Player of the Match, with Pickford making another vital collection before the whistle finally went on a fantastic result.  

West Ham Utd:  Areola, Coufal, Zouma, Aguerd, Cresswell (85' Ings), Alvarez [Y:83'], Ward-Prowse (73' Soucek), Paqueta [Y:71'], Kudus [Y:28'], Bowen, Antonio (57' Benrahma [Y:76']).

Subs: Fabianski, Ogbonna, Mavropanos, Kehrer, Fornals, Cornet.

Everton:  Pickford [Y:28'], Patterson, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Onana, Garner, Doucoure, Harrison, McNeil, Calvert-Lewin (88' Chermiti).

Subs: Virginia, Hunt, Keane Lonergan, Danjuma, Beto, Godfrey, Gana, Dobbin.

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Jeff Armstrong
1 Posted 29/10/2023 at 11:48:06
Patterson in for suspended Young, only change.
Martin Farrington
2 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:10:41
Okay Blues. Show some spirit, guts and energy.
Much better than how you started against Pawson's reds.

Can you do it?



Lee Courtliff
3 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:14:15
That's the team I would have picked, now just fuckin win!!
Alan J Thompson
4 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:26:46
An interesting bench and while it is highly unlikely, you wouldn't want a couple of injuries in the same area of the team, but I suppose that is not the sole thought on picking a bench.
Alan McGuffog
5 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:29:26
Dyche should say just two words. Ward-Prowse !. No stupid, unneccessary, pointless, ankle tapping on the edge of our box, please !!!
Colin Glassar
6 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:31:48
Gordon did that on purpose Alan to force his move. Little f#@%”&£r
Allen Rodgers
7 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:39:25
No Keane at all!
Tony Heron
8 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:41:13
"The safety of 2 goalkeepers"?

Can someone explain please?

Dave Abrahams
9 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:41:13
Was Michael Keane injured, seems strange if Dyche wanted two goalies in the squad. He dropped Keane out and put an untried (yes I know he won't come on) Hunt in.

Hopefully Keane didn't want to play against his next club in January!

Alan J Thompson
10 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:43:36
And now out of nowhere, well he hasn't played for quite some time, Lonergan appears, not being on the original posted bench.
Pat Kelly
11 Posted 29/10/2023 at 12:46:48
Something odd about Keane dropped off the bench. I think there are serious issues there.
Michael Kenrick
12 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:01:40
Was that Farhad Moshiri and Josh Wander in the Director's Box?
Derek Knox
13 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:24:18
Pat K @ 11,

Something odd about Keane dropped off the bench. I think there are serious issues there?

His lack of balance perhaps!

Colin Malone
14 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:43:06
No one with Calvert-Lewin.

Doucoure, neither use nor ornament.

Alex Gray
15 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:52:21
Most of the team playing well. Doucouré and McNeil having stinkers though.

McNeil in the last few games is looking like he did when he first signed and doesn't look fit.

Alex Gray
16 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:53:18
Also regarding Keane leaving the bench it was said there’s a serious family issue.
Michael Kenrick
17 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:54:18

It's like we don't want the 3 points on offer.

I'm finding this just maddening to watch.

Michael Kenrick
18 Posted 29/10/2023 at 13:57:50
And now that bloody Curry's advert. I mean, how incredibly gender insensitive to hirsute trans people! Honestly!!!
Allen Rodgers
19 Posted 29/10/2023 at 14:00:12
A tepid game from both sides to be fair but West Ham still look the more likely to score.
Alan J Thompson
20 Posted 29/10/2023 at 14:01:48
My first thoughts were why aren't we wearing blue as that grey looks awful and when the long shot is out of focus it is difficult to distinguish players by number, style or colour???

Harrison and McNeil have had awful first halves and they look like they've only just met Calvert-Lewin at the kick-off and even he looks like he just got out of bed. And Harrison needs shooting for cocking up that three-against-one breakaway!

Other than that, it's been a fairly disappointing game from both sides and the Ref got it all wrong in that little bit of handbags and should never have carded Pickford but it all became clear when he went over to say that he couldn't hear the VAR.

Heaven help us if there's a power cut and we have to go back to an actual onfield Ref and two old-fashioned linesmen controlling everything.

This has 'first goal the winner' written all over it.

Dave Abrahams
21 Posted 29/10/2023 at 14:07:10
I fear West Ham moving up a couple of gears in the second half.

We've done okay but, apart from Harrison's wrong decision, we have offered no real threat. Neither have West Hm but they have more to offer than we have.

Martin Farrington
22 Posted 29/10/2023 at 14:08:12
We look like the side that played in Grease the musical in the West End from last night.

We are completely flat, without any spark or energy. How are we consistently lacklustre? So much for galvanised after the derby.

Ernie Baywood
23 Posted 29/10/2023 at 14:14:50
Wow, what a touch and strike that was. Top class.
Ben King
24 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:03:32
Superb goal and superb win.
Alex Gray
25 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:04:28
Top professional performance. Thought the back 4 were excellent. Is that 5 wins in 7 now?
Mick Davies
26 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:05:14
Whining hypocritical toadies - WE WON
Mike Gaynes
27 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:06:37
So Dave my friend... Onana????

For me, he and Dom and Branthwaite all rate 9s today.

Steve Brown
28 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:11:10
Onana was fantastic today, and Branthwaite was even better.

Dom was class as always.

Mick Davies
29 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:12:07
Thanks to our lovely neighbours, we've climbed above Forest and are a giddy 15th!!!
Barry Hesketh
30 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:12:18
I had the same view as Michael @17, so much so, I switched over to the cricket, because watching Everton is sometimes completely infuriating.

They were invited to go and win the game and rarely looked like doing so in that opening half. I don't know if things improved second-half, but I'm more than happy with the victory and far more importantly the 3 points that go along with it.

On to the next one.

Dale Self
31 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:13:16
Those early comments are comedy gold. The nature of most of the criticism is drama driven.

A dramatic post match reenactment:

‘Oh god we win so ugly. I don’t know if I can watch or even admit to friends that I sat through that.’

Allen Rodgers
32 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:14:16
Thought the ref Atwell was decent today. It does help.

Great show by the lads and travelling fans.

Alan J Thompson
33 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:15:08
A magnificent turn and finish from DC-L and that and a few, a very few, other moments stopped this from being a bore-draw. We weren't up for that much but West Ham were very ordinary.

I did think that Dyche should have made a couple of subs from the 65th minute on and probably for Harrison and Doucoure just to put more legs into it, Harrison going missing for as much of the second half as he did in the first half. And can we include in the Finch Farm training how to go around the keeper in a 1 on 1 situation.

For me our MotM would be either Onana who had a magnificent game but more likely the less spectacular but ever more impressive Branthwaite. He barely puts a foot wrong and his positioning and reading of the game are par excellence. Whatever we offered him in his new contract then double it and put an 85M+ release clause in it.

And a final word on the refereeing as it seems we now well and truly have an advantage rule but I would hope there is some way of letting players and crowd alike know it and when it finishes. And would it be a step too far to have it included in the official rule book.

Derek Knox
34 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:17:49
We could do with a decent run of games, when you look at the table, thinking we have risen, we have more or less stagnated just above the trapdoor.

Always got a possible point deduction at the back of my mind so need a safety net too!

John Keating
35 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:22:34
Forget the performance, the result was all that matters and what a great result!

Lovely touch from Calvert-Lewin to make space for himself.
I would have liked us to have had a full week off before Brighton next week but it is what it is.

Hate to say it but I would like our neighbours to give Forest a right good cuffing for goal difference.

Colin Glassar
36 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:25:39
Another excellent team effort. Anyone out of 10 players could've been MotM.

My only disappointment was Jack Harrison. He really didn't affect the game imo.

Joe McMahon
37 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:29:21
Nervy at the end, but the team ran their socks off. Really would prefer if Sean used subs a bit more, we do have some talent with fresh legs on the bench.

Patterson must start now. If only we'd beaten Luton, the table would look much better. But good points today.

Ed Prytherch
38 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:29:36
Dyche selected our best 11 today and they were a well balanced team with good all round effort.

Hard to choose between Dom, Branthwaite and Pickford for MotM. Also good to see Patterson settle down and play a solid game after some initial nervousness.

Tom Edwards
39 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:35:28
Please never let Keane near the first team again. We certainly function better without him.
Colin Glassar
40 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:37:56
Keane and Godfrey, apparently, will be shown the door in January.
George Cumiskey
41 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:38:22
That's 3 top wingers Myolenko has played off the park: Salah, Bowen and Saka.

And Branthwaite was awesome.

Derek Knox
42 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:39:34
Joe @ 37, totally agree about Sean and his lack, or late use of Subs. Bringing someone on with less than 5 minutes or so left, has little chance of affecting the game but could be also detrimental to formation etc. Give them a decent run-out and give the opposition something new to think about !

Though all the lads put a shift in today, but also agree that Harrison and Doucoure, were only bit part players, but the latter was desperately unlucky to have a well placed shot saved by their keeper. That would have put the game to bed, but thankfully it didn't matter apart from a possible reduction in GD at the end !

Jerome Shields
43 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:40:54
Back from watching the game in a Hotel. I thought Everton played well. It is a precious 3 points. Branthwaite and Onana were the best of the Everton players.

I thought Everton defended corners well. Calvert-Lewin did play better, but still a bit short on timing and touch. He did take his goal well though .

McNeil was disappointing. Garner and Mykolenko were better, Doucoure looked more for the pass, with limited results.

Harrison and Patterson worked well on Everton's right. I thought this limited Harrison getting forward.

Pickford was really not tested and was comfortable. The main thing that agitated me was the inability on a counter to at least retain possession, maybe looking for a foul, a corner or line ball. Everton lost possession in promising situations.

Moyes is back under his glass ceiling, now that Rice has gone.

Great away result for Everton.

Peter Moore
44 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:44:37
Rome wasn't built in a day, but there are plenty of ruins there.

Delighted the lads Roamed to East London and ruined the Hammers' afternoon with a well-earned away win.

Injuries permitting, I am confident Dyche is improving this group to mould a better, more consistent, more effective, Premier League team.

The away support came over loud and proud on both radio and TV. Massive help to the lads on the pitch for sure.
👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

May the lads go onwards and upwards and leave the bottom-dwelling depression period behind. UTFT. 💙

Mike Gaynes
45 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:49:27
George, great comment. I think he has become the best defensive left-back in the Premier League.

In our NFL he would be called a "shutdown corner" and he'd be paid $20 million a year.

He'll never be a modern attacking fullback, but I think what he does give us is critical in games like today.

Dave Abrahams
46 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:50:14
Mike (27),

And you say I'm obsessed with Onana, the man I despise but actually want him to shape up.

He was very good, he did what I wanted by being part of the team and sharing the work load, not a lot to ask was it? If he keeps playing like that, there will be no complaints from me, he was in the running for MotM today.

I thought the team won a hard fought game after an indifferent first half but it was Everton who had an extra gear in the second half. They could have had a second goal to ease our frets, worries and stress in those final few minutes.

But all's well that ends well with a very welcome 3 points and maybe some confidence added to the team. I mentioned a few players but I wouldn't criticise any of those players today because they all pulled their weight and never hid, that's all you can ask.

Danny O’Neill
47 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:55:44
Still in Stratford running on emotion and adrenalin.

I'll write up later.

Well played silver Blue boys. Proud of you and the supporters.

Mike Gaynes
48 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:55:44
Just couldn't resist, Dave. You know I'm grinning when I ping you.

Actually, my obsessions at this point are Branthwaite and Mykolenko. I just cannot believe how defensively good these two young kids have become.

Jack Convery
49 Posted 29/10/2023 at 15:57:11
Just seen the score. Great to see us win away and get another precious 3 points.

Looks like I jinxed Harrison with my tip for him to get the first goal. However, my other tip of Calvert-Lewin getting one came true.

Same again v Burnley or will we look towards the Brighton game and rest some players? Who knows… but let's enjoy a win – they are as rare as England winning in India at present.

May I take the time to say how well the ref and his assistants and the TMO guys did in the Rugby Union World Cup Final. Marvellous to watch people who know exactly what they are doing.

Peter Hodgson
50 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:01:00
From the red Echo:

Jarrad Branthwaite – 8

The young defender just keeps getting better and better. Didn't put a foot wrong from a defensive point of view and made three great tackles inside the opening 15 minutes. Also played a key role in Dominic Calvert-Lewin's goal.

Couldn't agree more for once. Man of the match. No doubt.

Paul Birmingham
51 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:03:36
A very good Everton win, and a good controlled Everton team performance. A bit of luck and it could have been 2 or 3 goals, but what a great move and what a great finish by Calvert-Lewin.

I thought at times the officials were letting West Ham players off for late fouls but Everton kept calm and held their own.

Now to build an unbeaten run, and get on the higher side of 22 points before New Year.

Everton's away form is good, keep this up, and a good season is in the making, and a Top 10 finish.

Safe journey home to the travelling Evertonians.


Steve Brown
52 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:10:05
To be fair, Mykolenko has really impressed me in recent games against top class opponents. And I compared him to Terry Phelan!

Well done lad.

Neil Cremin
53 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:12:28
I have a superstition recently not to look at the results until the game is over. Too often been disappointed.

I have been following Everton since 1966; many highs and more recently many lows. However, on this day of my 70th Birthday, today's result was a wonderful Birthday present.

Thank you, Everton. NSNO COYB.

Mike Gaynes
54 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:15:45
Neil, Mazel Tov on your milestone birthday and I hope you're doing well.
Alan McGuffog
55 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:17:00
We can only be a game or two before the "Branthwaite deserves to be at a bigger club" campaign starts in the media.

T'was ever thus... let's get some signals out that we MIGHT accept bids north of £80 million. Hopefully the days of selling our livestock for a handful of beans are over.

David Hallwood
56 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:18:09
We've got a great spine emerging with Pickford, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, Onana, Garner and Calvert-Lewin.

If – and it's a big 'if' – we can keep it together, who knows?

Niall McIlhone
57 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:21:45
What a difference a win makes?

This league is such that two back-to-back victories can change the whole dynamic. For example, if Everton can somehow beat Brighton next weekend and Fulham lose or draw the lunchtime kickoff against Man Utd, we would go above them too!!!

Fulham have been much vaunted so far this season, whereas we have been written off as a basket case. That said, the failure to string two wins together in the Premier League has long been Everton's downfall.

Results have mostly gone for us today, and for once we had a referee who looked like he wanted to get the game flow, and was not unduly affected by the home crowd. Dyche deserves a lot of credit for his set-up today, hopefully this will serve us well as we go forward.

Jay Harris
58 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:25:16
I thought both teams out-defended themselves in the first half but, as soon as West Ham opened up in the second, we looked the better team and deserved the win.

Hard to be critical of any of our players but outstanding performances by Dom, Jarrad and Vitalii. Would like to see Danjuma given a chance for McNeil though, who is still to find his best form after his injury.

Neil Cremin
59 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:27:06
Thanks Mike, Doing great, still active both physically and mentally.

My biggest stress is at the weekend when Everton play which in recent times can bring a dark cloud over the weekend but not today. Today the sky is BLUE. Maybe Bill provided some inspiration/motivation for the team.

Jimmy Carr
60 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:27:39
No offence to Frank Lampard but, in comparison, Sean Dyche seems to be a much more competent and sensible football manager. That's probably not saying a great deal but it will do for now. Great 3 points today, not the sort of tight defensive performance Frank could coax from us.

If we avoid a significant points deduction, you would think we'll be safe this season without too many problems. Big 'if', I know.

I would love the comment about Keane being moved on in the New Year to be correct. But not sure there'll be many clubs who will pay his wages. I suspect Keane will be here until his contract expires.

Bill Fairfield
61 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:30:35
Massive win. Great performances from Branthwaite, Myklenko, Onana. COYB.
Dale Self
62 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:30:38
Happy Birthday Neil, Lynn on the LF also is celebrating today. We all are.

Gamewise, I think we may have something that will help keep the ball in opposition end after loss of possession. This is something that Spurs are doing very well this season. Branthwaite kept the ball in their end with an aggressive challenge (Tarkowski credit). This was covered by Tarkowsi and Mykolenko if it went wrong. We also sent Patterson into the box area late to retake possession.

Onana coming into form will allow us to gamble with Branthwaite and Patterson. Both are capable of extending possession with Harrison or McNeil. Any tricks we can develop will help overall with resets which really improved this match. Players looked for lines to form before going forward more today than I have seen in a long time.

Maybe it was the successful tactic of tiring out Hammers that allowed the time and space. I believe it was the good work of Onana keeping the ball where he had passing options. This made the runs believable and even allowed some standing options to simply force a defender decision yards away which then chose the pass. We actually had 3rd man stuff going today.

Barry Rathbone
63 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:31:47
Great to win, isn't it?

Fair play to Calvert-Lewin – that was a good goal!

Lynn Maher
64 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:33:55
Neil @ 53.

Just read your post and was amazed. Today is my birthday too and we have the same superstition. My family and friends know better than to communicate with me, until after any match I'm not attending.

It meant they had to come round at 9:30 am this morning for birthday stuff!

Also, the first Everton match I watched, albeit on television, was the 1966 FA Cup Final, Everton v Sheffield Wednesday.
I was completely hooked after that.

Yes, it was a brilliant birthday present today for both of us.
Happy Birthday, Neil.

Will have to wait for MotD2 tonight.

Stuart Sharp
65 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:35:49
Absolutely delighted, obviously, but I still can't work Onana out. I was screaming for Dyche to bring on fresh legs, too.

Anyway, definitely deserved the win, and Calvert-Lewin showed once again what a difference he makes to the team (not just the quality goal).

Danny O’Neill
66 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:39:48
Like many, I'm still on my way home. And we have other journeys coming up this next week.

Days like today make you realise how much we love this club that has been with us since the cradle. It makes it worth what we do as supporters.

I'm travelling home with a massive smile on my face. Still up with the dogs early in the morning, but they'll be happy, because I am.

Paul Birmingham
67 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:43:55
Neil & Lynn, Happy Birthday, and Congratzioni!!

Have a ball, celebrate and enjoy your day and a fine Everton away win! 👍🍻🍻⚽️

Brent Stephens
68 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:44:10
Alan #33,

"And a final word on the refereeing as it seems we now well and truly have an advantage rule but I would hope there is some way of letting players and crowd alike know it and when it finishes."

Rugby Union do it – miked up so you can hear "advantage" and "advantage over".

John Pickles
69 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:48:10
That win propels us up to -2 points in the table now. :)
Chris Corn
70 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:52:52
Michael Kenrick in positive headline shocker!!! 😆
Derek Wadeson
71 Posted 29/10/2023 at 16:55:01
Can I, first of all, thank all blues for their kind thoughts in the Bill Kenwright thread when I mentioned my 43-year-old daughter passed away last month suddenly due to a brain bleed.

Today, I had an all too rare smile on my face watching that Everton performance. "One for all and all for one" springs to mind as a team. Well done, Blues.

Chris Corn
72 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:05:23
Good on you, Derek. 💙
Neil Cremin
73 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:05:54
Lynn. Snap!

All my friends were either Man Utd or Liverpool supporters. I also watch the FA Cup Final, went for the Toffees and am a Blue ever since.

Thanks Paul

Colin Glassar
74 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:07:01
Condolences, Derek.
Mike Hayes
75 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:16:37
So sorry to hear that, Derek. Glad Everton put a smile on your face. 💙
Jim Bennings
76 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:25:17
Well organized, well drilled and Patterson at right-back, if the lad is fit then this has to be our number one right-back, just let the kid get on with it.

Much like Branthwaite stepping into the central defence ahead of error-prone Michael Keane, Dyche needs to just let Patterson make that slot his own now, no more Ashley Young as first choice.

All-in-all, a perfect away day performance. I've been crying out for some narrow nitty gritty 1-0 away wins now for some time, I miss them. If you can get five or six of these a season, then you can't go too far wrong.

Lynn Maher
77 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:27:12
Really sorry, Derek, to hear your sad news.
Jerome Shields
78 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:31:44
Derek #71

My sincere condolences. Glad Everton won for you today.

James Marshall
79 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:37:24
My first away game of the season, and it made a pleasant change to win one!

Cracking atmosphere among the away faithful made me remember why I love away games.

Great performance from the whole team I thought, especially Onana and Branthwaite but also an honorable mention for Mykolenko defensively.

A little hoarse tonight but happy with a great result!

Will Mabon
80 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:40:56
So sad, Derek, I can't imagine.

I hope Everton continue to be of help.

Neil Cremin
81 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:42:02
Condolences Derek
Mick O'Malley
82 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:44:25
Condolences Derek, glad we got you a win today.

Jim, agreed about the gritty 1-0 wins. I'm made up with the clean sheet. We look a better side without Gana, he has his qualities but I hope we stick with the midfield we have now.

Onana stepping up again, Branthwaite solid, and Mykolenko defending well. Patterson solid at right back, no more Ashley Young, and a great turn and finish from Calvert-Lewin. UTFT!!

Peter Mills
83 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:46:00
It wasn't particularly pretty, it was very tough, a game where every player did the ugly stuff.

Made up for Evertonians everywhere, but especially those at the match and Derek #71.

John Gall
84 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:49:10
Derek #71.

Commiserations old chap. So sorry about your daughter.

My partner had two bleeds on the brain (subarachnoid haemmorage) at the age of 50. She survived but is much diminished with no speech. Life can be so cruel.

Julian Exshaw
85 Posted 29/10/2023 at 17:53:19
Derek@71, my condolences and very best wishes to you and your family at these toughest of times.

I thought this was our best performance of the season so far. There was some excellent pressing and defending throughout and we never really looked in danger.

Fair enough, we might not play the most attractive football but this will do for now. This is 'steadying the ship' à la Sean Dyche.

When we win, the temptation is to say our opponents were not on their game but you have to give credit where credit is due. We won this; we were excellent and we move onwards and hopefully upwards.

Mal van Schaick
86 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:00:58
A massive turnaround in our fortunes, thanks to some shrewd signings and a different mindset, where the effort matches the commitment.

Both full-backs were good and we were solid in the middle. Well done, Calvert-Lewin, for getting fit and looking like he's a real threat again.

Kunal Desai
87 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:04:47
We now have a solid look about us, defensively a lot more settled with Tarkowski and Branthwaite in partnership. Garner through the middle with Harrison and McNeil out wide. Fingers crossed we can start picking up a good few more points between now and January.

Still think we need to bring in one or two players if possible in the next window, another centre-back and someone with a bit of creativity through the middle.

Mark Ryan
88 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:08:43
Oh for a Paul Gascoigne…
Dave Abrahams
89 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:11:21
Derek (71),

So sorry to hear of the sad loss of your daughter and to all the other fans on here who also lost one of the family during the week.

Danny O’Neill
90 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:16:00
Well, this happy Evertonian is nearly home.

Great turnout as always from the travelling blues.

Derek and John, what you say puts Everton and football into insignificance.

God bless your loved ones.

Rob Dolby
91 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:17:27
Probably our best available starting 11. Garner and Onana look to be forming a decent partnership. Patterson learning the game in the first team isn't ideal but better than having young play there.

Good time playing anyone after a European game and West Ham looked off the pace a bit. We looked comfortable for long periods, Kudus their main threat.

Calvert-Lewin took his goal well and worked hard all game. Hard to pick a MotM as all of the team put a shift in.

Roll on Burnley midweek.

Paul Tran
92 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:31:48
Condolences to you, Derek.
Happy birthday, Neil & Lynn
Happy Sunday to all Blues.

The kind of performance I was expecting under Dyche. Good, solid, hardworking win. Great to be 5 points ahead of the bottom three and 2 behind midtable.

Must keep it going, starting on Wednesday.

Terry Farrell
93 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:36:00
Derek sincere condolences. We were great today Pickford Branthwaite Myko Onana and Dom.
Superb goal and if wed scored the breakaway soon after we would have been on easy Street. Like Dyche and what hes trying to do but start using your fresh legs subs like every other team does. Harrison and mcneil were gone and we could easily have ended up 1 1 last 10.
Tony Everan
94 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:44:29
Condolences to you and your family Derek.

This was a hard earned, fully deserved win, maybe our best of the season. We worked well as a team even the players who are not quite on top of their game contributed to the effort, so that was very encouraging to see. Makes me think there’s more to come from this side.

Another super performance from Jarrad Branthwaite, to be producing these type of dominant CB performances at aged 21/22 is something special. Having Tark alongside is a perfect partner for him . Keep up the good work Jarrad and the consistency, absolutely loving it.

Other performances; Mykolenko has kicked on this season and is becoming a very good defensive left back, I looked at the West Ham wide right a few times today and he looked beaten at times.

Onana was involved and knitted play together well all afternoon, looked after the ball well all game and used it well, he looked the best CM on the pitch today. He is progressing well this season, keep up the good work.

DCL worked hard for the team as usual, class touch and finish, the lad wants a place for the Euros and is going the right way to get it.

Brighton next week will be tougher again, but we go into it with confidence.

Paul Ferry
95 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:50:17
Thanks for your travel information Danny, it's important that we should all know about it.

That team really played for each other today with some really nice joined-up play at times but even more importantly, we were tight, cohesive, and cut out errors for the most part. Dyche out-Moysed Moyes.

This game and set up really suited Onana, I thought, he was excellent in the middle today, winning one ball after another. I thought that our sometimes maligned left-back was top-drawer at both ends of the field. He has had a really good couple of months against top wingers and I wonder if something changed at The Farm or within him. Branthwaite = class, arguably the best central defender of his age in the top flight.

A separate paragraph for DCL. That was a top quality all-round centre-forward performance and a beautifully taken goal. Many of us feared that he was finished, some of us said it out loud, a large number thought that we could not rely on him (I think that I was one of them), but (fingers and everything else crossed) he is showing us now - as he once said - what he can become once he gets a good run of games.

Table looks so much better now, we are only three points behind Sheffeld United and eight points from safety.

Neil Tyrrell
96 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:50:24
So sorry for your loss Derek, that's unimaginable.

Happy Birthdays Neil and Lynn.

Had a great day with my nephew, meeting up with Danny, Mark, and Joe beforehand for a couple then a tense minute getting in cause Sammy (who had our tickets on his phone) was wearing a Free Palestine t-shirt and they wouldn't let him in with it. Ended up having to leave it outside. He put up a good fight though!

Was brilliant being amongst the traveling support in there. Thought Myko and Branthwaite were great. Wasn't the greatest match but it was a GREAT win and I enjoyed the hell out of it. UTFT!!

Brent Stephens
97 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:52:53
Danny #90

"Well, this happy Evertonian is nearly home."

Been abroad, Danny?

Dale Self
98 Posted 29/10/2023 at 18:58:04
Paul 95,

I'm worried the points deduction will keep us out of Europe after today's performance.

Paul Ferry
99 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:00:34
Made up for you, Neil, so glad that you got tickets.

I'd be interested to know on what grounds and authority Sammy had to bin his Free Palestine tee-shirt. Was there some sort of directive from the Premier League on this or from on high elsewhere that I missed? I trust that anyone with a pro-Israeli tee-shirt would also have been told to get rid.

Words fail me, Derek, I cannot begin to imagine what you must be going through, I wish you all the strength in the world and my deepest condolences.

Rob Hooton
100 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:05:43
A solid away win, we have been good at restricting the opposition whilst creating chances ourselves – I think we are in a false position and should be higher than we are, so have hope we can hit the ‘magic 40 points' as early as possible this season.

West Ham are no mugs, cracking 3 points. Loved hearing Spirit of the Blues throughout the match, proud of all those in attendance!!

Dave Williams
101 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:05:53
Commiserations, Derek, I can only imagine your pain.

A very good away performance: solid at the back, competitive in midfield and a goal which reeks of class and should show a few posters that Calvert-Lewin does care and is a top-class centre-forward.

I am so pleased to see Mykolenko getting the praise he deserves and Jarrad Branthwaite is simply awesome.

Hope all of the marvellous travelling support get home safely with big smiles on their faces. Well done, everyone!!

Paul Ferry
102 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:07:56
I think that in and around 30 points will be enough this season, Rob. With the likes of Sheffield Utd, Burnley, and Luton, this might not be the worst season to get a points deduction!
Bill Gall
103 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:13:48
Thank you, Everton, especially Calvert-Lewin, made my weekend.

Hopefully this will start giving the team more confidence as we seem to be getting enough players fit, and that will make the players who are picked improve their game, or Dyche will have the guts to drop them.

We may not have moved much in the league table, but we are moving in the right direction.

Dave Cashen
104 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:16:05
I thought the performance was like many others I had seen in the Moyes era. Dyche did unto Davie, before Davie could do unto him.

We looked very solid. For me, Onana had his best game, Pickford kept his crazy in check… just!

Patterson was a definite upgrade on Young and while "last-ditch Tarks" continues to do his Mick Lyons on a bad day impression, Branthwaite is increasingly impressive.

Mykolenko? He will never be Leighton Baines. But his game has been improving week on week. Long may that continue.

Calvert-Lewin makes a massive difference to the attitude of the rest of the team. I get the distinct impression that having a striker on the pitch gives them the belief that they can actually win a game.

There was a lot to like about that performance today.

Barry Hesketh
105 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:21:53
Paul @102,

It's so galling that Everton's loss to Luton and the draw at Sheffield has given them four out of the six points that they have on the board.

Those points have gone now, but we still need to be wary, we have done this so many times in recent seasons, grab a useful win and fail to build on it. Although I do think that Dyche and his backroom team will keep the players' feet firmly on the ground.

Anthony Dove
106 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:26:00
Hopefully watching West Ham today will finally end any lingering support for the return of Moyes. I lost count of the number of passes back to the goalkeeper often from good attacking positions. People criticise Dyche for his defensive approach but he has nothing on Moyes.

Branthwaite is really going to be something special so let's enjoy him while we can. Harrison was poor and I don't see any positives really with our recent acquisitions. Although I think Danjuma should get a run out instead of McNeil or Harrison.

Mark Frere
107 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:50:51
Paul @99,

Israeli and Palestinian flags or t-eeshirts are not permitted to be displayed at Premier League matches. This is also the stance UEFA have taken.

Celtic are facing disciplinary action from UEFA due to a section of their fans waving Palestinian flags in their recent Champions League match against Atletico Madrid.

Paul Ferry
108 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:57:38
Thanks Mark.
Charles Brewer
109 Posted 29/10/2023 at 19:58:16
I suspect there is panic at the Premier League HQ tonight. It's rather looking as though a 12-point deduction may not be enough to destroy Everton with the bottom 3 or 4 receding rapidly into a pre-Christmas relegation bucket!

Presumably they'll find some way to add on another 12 for Pickford's non-foul on Van Dijk a couple of years ago, or maybe mix up the Man City file with ours...

Either way, I had an unavoidable lunch with old friends today and missed the match entirely (couldn't even sneak out for a quick look at the phone!) so it looks as though me having a lunch and not watching the match will join the Twebbers who have to a) go and have a cigarette b) retire to the bathroom for 90 minutes c) take the dogs for a walk in order for the gods to be appeased.

The highlights I've seen so far still left me concerned that we aren't clinical enough at finishing and are still leaving opposing players far too unmarked in our penalty area, but it was great to have a 1-0 result after so frequently not managing to keep the opposition out.

I feel Everton should dedicate today's result, not so much to Bill Kenwright, as to David Moyes and the KITAP1 principle.

Charles Brewer
110 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:03:53
Mark, if I am not mistaken, the RS also had Palestinian flags at the match last week. I'm confident that nothing will be done about that.

I mean it's not like breaking some weird technical rule brought in to ensure that teams who do not qualify for the dreary Champions League can't ever compete.

Ed Prytherch
111 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:09:23
I thought that we would miss Iwobi's creativity when he left for Fulham. It sure looks like I was wrong.
Deborah Maria
112 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:11:41
Derek @71

My sincere condolences, losing a loved one doesn't bare thinking about but to lose a daughter so young is absolutely heart breaking.

My thoughts are with you and your family

Robert Tressell
113 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:15:00
Won and deserved it. Good performances across the pitch.

I think McNeil and Harrison are both still finding their rhythm after injury and will improve with more games. Likewise the full-backs. Mykolenko is clearly not going to be a Baines but he is an excellent 1 v 1 defender. Patterson is also improving and hopefully Young is now just emergency back-up from here.

Dyche is managing to mould a decent first XI and we are, I hope, starting to see the emergence of a team that might lack stars (possibly Branthwaite aside) but is more than the sum of its parts.

Hopefully the likes of Beto, Chermiti, Danjuma and maybe Ben Godfrey will make contributions as the season unfolds.

Mark Frere
114 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:17:19
Charles, I think that was just one supporter who had his Palestinian hoodie and flag taken from him during the match. It wasn't a large section of the crowd like with Celtic.

I think the Premier League and UEFA have taken the most sensible route by banning both of the nations' flags. It's always the safest course of action to stay neutral, as a football association, when many innocent civilian lives have been lost on both sides.

Mike Connolly
115 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:22:10
Has anyone noticed every team we have beaten lately have come out and said "That's the worst we have played"?

I just hope other teams play bad against us. We could win the league at this rate.

Dennis Stevens
116 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:33:48
That's nothing, Charles #109…

I was in Spain when we beat Bournemouth at Goodison back in May and there again when we repeated the feat earlier this month. I'm wondering whether I should try to get crowd funding for further trips to Spain for our forthcoming home fixtures?

Although it may only apply to home matches versus Bournemouth – let's hope they don't get relegated!

Robert Tressell
117 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:36:19
Derek # 71, I missed your post earlier and my heart goes out to you. Sincere condolences.
Charles Brewer
118 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:39:10
Mike, I suspect that if your team gives its worst performance of the season against another team, the "other team" may have something to do with it.

And Mark, you're probably right about the RS, but I'm equally confident that if the entire Kop turned up with flags there would be some reason why they wouldn't be on the end of any punishment - or else the punishment would be applied equally to "all clubs in Liverpool".

Dennis, I suspect there are few on this list who aren't totally confident that something they do is what causes the team to win / lose. My wife is always telling me not to watch the streams "because they always lose when you do".

Actually, i think she knows I will be in a less horrible mood for the rest of the week if I didn't watch Everton lose than if I did. So persuading me I have some causal relationship (ie CB watches, EFC loses) means that the house will have a less unpleasant atmosphere if I don't watch.

Finally, Derek, sincere condolences, I can't begin to imagine your situation.

Tony Abrahams
119 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:40:21
I never watched any of today's game preferring to listen on the radio, but you could say that making the opposition play bad is a very good trait Mike C, so long may it continue.

Everton don't seem to give that many chances away to the opposition now, and it's also debatable whether Liverpool would have scored against our ten men last week without receiving a penalty, so this must slowly start helping our confidence.

Mark Pembridge made a great point today when he said that with the way things have been for so long now, Everton's players must always feel like they are under pressure, but if they get a few more wins, this should naturally change, and who knows what a bit of confidence would do for this team?

Really sorry to hear about your daughter, Derek. 💙💙

Barry Hesketh
120 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:40:37
Unfortunately because Dyche doesn't trust both full-backs, at least not yet, and he's probably right on that, Dyche is inclined to give them the protection of Harrison and McNeil.

This stunts the abilities of the two wingers going forward as they don't want to leave massive gaps between themselves and the defenders. It worked today, in the end, because we won, and it's probably going to be the way we play away from home for most of the rest of this season, and if we can keep getting points on the road, that's a good thing.

The home games are where we need to use the wingers in more attacking areas, more regularly, and that then means the full-backs necessarily becoming more exposed.

I'd keep playing today's defence as often as is possible, just to get them used to each other and the young full-backs will only improve by playing most weeks. Let's be honest, Young and Coleman will likely not be able to play week-in & week-out, but they can be used when required, rather than being nailed-on starters.

Another nine or so victories should suffice, let's get them on the board as quickly as possible.

Oliver Molloy
121 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:46:02
We need the points given what may be lying ahead so today's result is huge.

The team worked hard for each other and with a bit of luck we could have won by a couple. A fit Calvert-Lewin really gives us a better chance – can he stay fit?

Patterson, for me is a better option than Young.

Dedicated to Bill Kenwright – forever an Evertonian no matter what our opinions.

All the hard work today will be for nothing if we don't win under the lights this Wednesday night!

Brendan McLaughlin
122 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:51:02
That's nothing, Dennis #116,

Ashamed as I am to admit it, I was having sex with a fellow Everton fan's wife when we got our first win of this season.

Second win, different Everton fans' wife.

And today... a completely different Everton fans wife again

So if anyone wants to keep this cum running (typo) send me your wives contact details... Michael/Lyndon has my information.

Great win today

Mark Frere
123 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:53:17
Just read your earlier post, Derek, my sincerest condolences to you and your family. So glad Everton were able to give you a little raised smile today.
Tony Abrahams
124 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:54:26
Interesting how you describe our wide players roles today, Barry, there is nothing better than having people you can trust playing in front of you and knowing that they will cover you to stop you getting exposed.

The more this happens, the more we will hopefully begin to see our two full-backs start developing more of an attacking threat, once they start building up this trust and understanding.

Brent Stephens
125 Posted 29/10/2023 at 20:56:01
Brendan #122 my wife is a blue fan and I'm worried as I've just seen her reading your post at #122 and then typing an email to you with my contact details.
Dave Abrahams
126 Posted 29/10/2023 at 21:01:23
Brendan (122) out of curiosity what were you doing when we lost?
Mark Murphy
127 Posted 29/10/2023 at 21:02:08
Good solid win and a great day out. Haven’t seen the highlights yet but what happened in the first half with Tarkowski and Kudus? It looked to us all where I was that Tarks kicked out at the prone kudus and we all thought he’d get a red card?
Anyway, glad he didn’t as he and Branthwaite are becoming a very solid pair at the back.
We thoroughly deserved that!
Brendan McLaughlin
128 Posted 29/10/2023 at 21:10:48
Ha ha Dave #126

Funny, funny response...glad I posted #122 after all.

Brendan McLaughlin
129 Posted 29/10/2023 at 22:00:06
That went before I intended and just as I saw the posts to Derek

Sincere apologies Derek

Paul Birmingham
130 Posted 29/10/2023 at 22:03:45
Derek @71, deepest condolences, at this terrible time,, and it puts life and football in perspective.
Derek Thomas
131 Posted 29/10/2023 at 22:36:37
I said earlier in the week I fancied us for this and for once I'm glad I stayed up until the wee small hours to watch it.

A nice touch with the wreath on The Chairman's seat.

Patterson, O'Neil and Harrison had 'quiet' starts but settled into their various tasks eventually.

Onana, Garner much the same...(still not basking in the full glare of the Onana hype)

Doucoure kept on keeping on, he did well enough with his shot at a bobbley ball (even if he did probably bobble it himself) sometimes they go in, sometimes the keeper gets a hand to it.

DCL ploughed a bit of a lone furrow, scored a well taken goal and could've had 2.

Branthwaite - aided and abetted by the 2 either side of him - stood out.

Pickford, once he got over his retro 'Mae West where's my handbag' phase with the feigning West Ham player, who was up like a rocket when it suited him...kept us in the game with 2 fine saves.

West Ham seemed to have players doing this silly shit all over the pitch - Moyes...on whom the pressure is mounting, though he has yet to receive the dreaded 'Vote of Confidence'...used to frown on this.

Dyche...wisely as it turned out...stoutly resisted the live forum's...when they weren't busy stupidly feeding the troll...clarion call (from troll and forum alike) to make sweeping changes.

The Referee was all over the place like mad woman's shit with his decisions and why does it take so long to give offside.

So all in all - a good 3pts which, FFP not withstanding, opens a gap between us and the bottom 4.

Our medium term aim is to reel in Chelsea and, at the same time, drop Forest.

Short term - do we go all in Vs Burnley??

Dale Self
132 Posted 29/10/2023 at 22:55:30
Mark 127, I saw one angle. Clean tackle, kidus in latest to ball. Then Tark gets up and Kudus tries to feign dirty play by Tark. Then Tark let him know that was not appreciated.
Jerome Shields
133 Posted 29/10/2023 at 23:21:02
I felt for the first time in ages that Everton were not that far off, really looking a useful side. They did look a better side than West Ham.

Hopefully this will be a real confidence booster and the next home fixture will see a dominant performance, roared on by the Goodison faithful.

Brendan McLaughlin
134 Posted 29/10/2023 at 23:24:16
Derek #131

"Dyche...wisely as it turned out...stoutly resisted the live forum's...when they weren't busy stupidly feeding the troll...clarion call (from troll and forum alike) to make sweeping changes."

"stoutly resisted"...don't think Sean was even aware of it!

"Noise"...as far as Sean is concerned.

Phil Lewis
135 Posted 29/10/2023 at 23:48:09
Time to praise two players I've been super critical of on here. Pickford and Onana are gaining confidence with every game this season. The latter in particular hardly put a foot wrong today, read the game well and played some excellent through passes.
My own personal man of the match had to be DCL. He looks exceptionally sharp and his regular presence has raised the level of our play, bringing other players into games. Special praise for Branthwaite, another assured performance from the youngster.
An overall fine team effort.
Paul Ferry
136 Posted 30/10/2023 at 00:10:52
I must confess Brendan that I do love the idea of Dyche in his dodgy mac and short tie checking his phone to follow the twists and turns of the Live Forum to see what he should do next, But this time, as Derek Thomas duly notes (131), he dug his heels in and 'stoutly' refused to go with the - love this - 'clarion call' of the feisty LF.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
137 Posted 30/10/2023 at 01:39:59
Derek, I hope it brings you some comfort having all of TW and your fellow blues sending our thoughts your way.

Ed, 111, interesting point you bring up about losing Iwobi, and I would add Gray to the conversation. There was legitimate concern about replacing what each of them brought to the team, and now I never think of either of them. I do wonder what Iwobi could do in the currrent Doucoure role in terms of creativity, but Douc makes up for his heavy feet with the goals, as he showed today with the near-miss and great strike. Iwobi never had goals in him. As for Gray, he deserves the sorry Saudi league for his cry-baby antics his last few weeks here.

What more can be said about Branthwaite that hasn’t already been said. He’s starting to look world-class, which is scary for his age, and means someone will come knocking with £60-70 million bids this summer, as hard as it is to think about. He’s an absolute stud.

One thing to add about DCL in addition to just being so happy to see him proving the doubters wrong. What’s been so impressive to me of late is he’s also shedding the level of being a one-trick pony who can only finish from 6 yards out. He’s winning defensive corners, holding the ball up with soft touches, beating players one-on-one, and now scoring brilliant goals that require beating his defenders like today. And he’s only 26. In 3 years when Kane is on the tail end of his career, Dom could be leading the line for England if he continues progressing like this.

Helluva win today, as boring as that first half was. Kudos to the away supporters, as always. I was singing along with you over here in the States.

Kieran Kinsella
138 Posted 30/10/2023 at 02:10:17

I’ll say a prayer for you and your family tonight mate. So sorry for your loss

Mike Gaynes
139 Posted 30/10/2023 at 02:34:03
Dave #126, best line of the weekend.
Paul Ferry
140 Posted 30/10/2023 at 02:58:56
It is good Mike. Thanks for making me laugh Dave A on one of those oh crap the winter is coming days
Jay Evans
141 Posted 30/10/2023 at 07:55:57
Derek 71, God bless you and your family.

Football is important as we all know, but it’s not really that important is it.


Danny O’Neill
142 Posted 30/10/2023 at 09:09:29
On the flags discussion, keep the politics out of football.

A bit different, but when I served and lived in Northern Ireland, it was usual for the lamp posts to be "decorated" with Union Flags or Irish Tricolours depending on the leaning of the community. Then it became quite common for Palestine flags to be flown alongside the Irish flag, "retaliated" by Israel flags being flown alongside the Union Flag.

Bizarre, I never really understood the logic.

Anyway, back to football. Absolutely stamp it out.

And get that Steaua Bucharest banner removed and banned. It is offensive and insensitive, related to a football tragedy that they themselves caused.

Shameless and outraged. Never embarassed.

Christy Ring
143 Posted 30/10/2023 at 09:18:32
Derek#71 My deepest sympathy to you and your family, my heart goes out to ye, nice to see the win, brought a smile out 💙
Great win today, thought back four excelled, and Mykolenko showed again today, how good he is as a left back, that’s Bowen and Salah nullified. Onana and Garner impressive and a fully fit Calvert-Lewin showed what we were missing 🤞
Ray Roche
144 Posted 30/10/2023 at 09:44:51
Reading through the comments on here it would seem that the Premier League ’leaking’ the 12pts deduction has had just the reaction it wanted. People on here, and elsewhere, pundits, commentators etc., are taking it as a done deal. That we ARE getting docked 12pts, not just what the PL are asking for. Consequently if the so called independent commission buckle to the PL demands and relieve us of 12pts no one will be surprised, and if it’s only 9pts then we’ll be thinking that we got away with it.

And Derek, condolences, a terrible loss you’ve suffered.💙

Sam Hoare
145 Posted 30/10/2023 at 09:46:50
Condolences and sympathies to Derek. Thoughts to you and your family at such a time.

As for the match we've had plenty games this season where the performance outstripped the result and this may possibly have been the reverse. Don't get me wrong we performed pretty well but a draw would have been a fair result and we can definitely do better with the ball, though we were solid defensively at a team that has scored at home very regularly.

Branthwaite and Onana continue to be the gems and the club will have to think carefully about how to maximise their value, we should be getting in the region of £150m for the pair of them. I suspect one of them may depart this summer but hopefully not both. Maybe we can keep hold of them for another year but lets enjoy them while we can.

Credit to Dyche and the players. We look like a team with a plan finally and a squad of players able to execute that plan. We're still thin in some spots (notably at CB) but if we can avoid big injuries I remain confident we'll finish closer to 10th than 20th.

As for the 12 points deduction stuff, it's purely clickbait. Don't waste your time on it. At worst we'll get a fine, maybe a transfer embargo and a few points deduction. I suspect it won't even be that bad but little point speculating.

Ray Carvin
146 Posted 30/10/2023 at 12:28:47
Danny@142, That Steaua Bucharest banner is an absolute disgrace,it represents grave dancing by their fans,yet it never gets called out officially,in fact it isn't banner singular,they also have flags of the same also Romanian flags to send the same message,it is a calculated insult aimed purely at us.
As ever that club and support seem to be above sanction.
We know what the reaction would, quite rightly be if our support displayed disparaging banners referencing H'boro.The Steaua banner is exactly the same thing.
Tony Abrahams
147 Posted 30/10/2023 at 12:41:28
I’ve heard it said that the banner is funny and just a bit of banter by the same person who absolutely hates me mentioning Heysel.

If that flag doesn’t indirectly reference Heysel, then you are obviously dealing with very ignorant people, but it’s always been different for a lot of the people who support WANTITBOTHWAYS FC.

Christy Ring
148 Posted 30/10/2023 at 13:16:46
Tony# 147 It beggars belief that our neighbours rightly remember the Hillsborough tragedy, but the Heysel never happened??
Tony Abrahams
149 Posted 30/10/2023 at 14:10:19
The song always the victim’s is now supposedly about Hillsborough, but anyone who is old enough can surely remember Peter Robinson, blaming anyone but his own fans after The Heysel stadium disaster, and this definitely happened a few years before Hillsborough. (It’s never your fault)

That Steaua flag was definitely intending to take the piss out of Evertonians, and yet they have the temerity to say we are bitter?

I genuinely think I am a lot more honest, than I’ve ever been bitter, although I sometimes feel that the shameful way that Liverpool football club, reacted after Heysel, definitely left a very, very bitter taste.

Life has moved forward, but only one club on Merseyside has moved with the times, and whatever we say, we only have ourselves to blame for accepting the mediocrity of the last 25 years. Hopefully things will now begin to change, but surely I’m not the only person who is very, very fucking suspicious of 777?

Paul Cherrington
150 Posted 30/10/2023 at 14:11:56
Great win by the team and a brilliant finish by Calvert-Lewin. Let's hope they carry on picking up points like this as the season progresses. I like the job Dyche is doing overall and we look a proper team now, with a plan and some decent players.

Two things stand out for me from this game:

- we look much better without Young on the pitch. I can see why we signed him and it was worth a gamble but he is not at the races when he plays. Team plays much better with him not there.

- it might be a coincidence but there seems a clear parallel between Beto and Chermiti arriving over summer and Calvert-Lewin's return to fitness and form. Since there has been real competition for his spot, he has not only been able to string a run of games together but also find the net again regularly. I'm not of course denying his genuine injury problems in the past and it could be a happy coincedence but maybe a little competition has helped somewhat.

Ray Roche
151 Posted 30/10/2023 at 14:21:49
Tony @149,

It's also worth remembering that, when we finished 4th and they failed to get a Champions League slot, wasn't it Robinson who said that, as reigning champions, they should take our slot and we should play in the Europa League?

This was retracted when he realised how much brown stuff was hitting so many fans. LFC eventually wanted, and got, much to the annoyance of the Spain, Italian and German FA's, a fifth spot. Then enter Colinas…

Jamie Crowley
152 Posted 30/10/2023 at 15:13:21
Derek @71 -

My most sincere condolences. Be well and peace to you and yours.

Bobby Mallon
153 Posted 30/10/2023 at 15:17:37
Dave 126 he had a ham shank
Brian Wilkinson
154 Posted 30/10/2023 at 15:46:56
Spot on Ray, they found a way to allow them back in, having them in the Competition was a big draw to the Champions League.

They knew they had to allow Everton in, with finishing 4th, and knew full well had they drawn Everton to play the shite, it would have been too obvious, so they stitched Everton up, to play one of the toughest teams in the competition, Villarreal, where if memory serves me right, they got all the way to the semi finals that year.

Just to ensure both did not get through, they brought a ref out of retirement, to ensure we did not progress to the next round, and the retired ref could not face any punishment, or future suspensions.

Just another example of making allowances for the elite.

Paul Kossoff
155 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:05:28
Brendan 22,

"Ashamed as I am to admit it, I was having sex with a fellow Everton fan's wife when we got our first win of this season."

Yes, you should be ashamed. I take it you knew the fellow supporter which makes it a lot more shameful. Let's hope the fellow supporter is reading this and pays you a visit… 👎👎👎

Raymond Fox
156 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:17:08
I sure as hell don't want a points deduction and I'm betting there wont be, but I think, with the manager and players we now have, we could overcome a 6-point deduction comfortably…!and even a 12-point one.

Why do they need to take all this time to make decisions?

When you are young and wet behind the ears, the tendency is to believe those in control of goverments and the like actually know what thet are doing, I know I did.

When you become an OAP+, you realise that the whole shooting match is a bloody joke, talk about the blind leading the blind.

Rob Halligan
157 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:18:51
Don't think this Hammers fan is a happy chappie! 😂😂😂


Andy Crooks
158 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:33:22
Paul @ 155, it would be wonderful if you aren't joking!
Chris Corn
159 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:39:11
Brendan 122, Paul 155, thought my missus had an unusual glow when I got home from work yesterday.

If that is what it takes to get 3 points, I'll tuck you in and ask how many sugars in your tea… 😆

Brian Williams
160 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:39:56
Andy. Pretty sure Brendan @ 22 was.
Will Mabon
161 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:50:00
Missing the match for sex is disgraceful.

Mike Gaynes
162 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:51:57
You ever been offered that choice, Will?
Mike Gaynes
163 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:52:33
The Guardian's Jacob Steinberg this morning:

Jarrad Branthwaite was magnificent during Everton's 1-0 win over West Ham. The young centre-back's first notable involvement was to stop Michail Antonio charging on to a pass down the right and he grew in stature as the game progressed.

It was Branthwaite who started the move that led to Dominic Calvert-Lewin's winner. He left Antonio on the floor with a strong challenge and quickly moved the ball forward for Calvert-Lewin to link with Jack Harrison.

Then, when West Ham tried to force an equaliser, Branthwaite stood firm next to the experienced James Tarkowski. The 21-year-old won his headers, made important blocks, read danger and ensured that Jordan Pickford did not have to make a save until added time in the second half.

It was no surprise Sean Dyche singled out the defender for praise afterwards. Branthwaite appears to have benefited from a year on loan at PSV Eindhoven.

Will Mabon
164 Posted 30/10/2023 at 16:58:12
Many times, Mike, naturally :-)

But I have my priorities right.

Will Mabon
165 Posted 30/10/2023 at 17:04:32
Elsewhere, Garth Crooks has included Branthwaite in his Team of the Week.

"He may not be a Kevin Ratcliffe but he might be a Mick Lyons."

We're lucky to have such resources as Crooks's finely tuned understanding of player potential.

Dale Self
166 Posted 30/10/2023 at 17:41:54
Rob 157, that was a bitter Hammer. The Ward-Prowse criticism was unexpected but largely sensible.

There is a late reference about his wife being so disgusted with Moyes she went shopping at halftime. I wonder if she shops in Brendan's area.

Brian Williams
167 Posted 30/10/2023 at 17:45:47
Wow, a few posts where posters actually get Branthwaite's name right!

Dale#166. Thankyou for your edit. 😁

Dave Abrahams
168 Posted 30/10/2023 at 17:51:43
Bobby (153),

I don't think so, Bobby. Brendan is a Catholic like myself, we are not allowed to do that!

Danny O’Neill
169 Posted 30/10/2023 at 18:08:08
That guy could be a Moyes generation Evertonian Rob!
Brendan McLaughlin
170 Posted 30/10/2023 at 18:34:46
Seriously, Paul #155,

Are you so anal that you can't spot a very obvious wind-up?

None of the women involved were actually married to Evertonians...

Brian Williams
171 Posted 30/10/2023 at 18:44:53
............or existed. 🤣
Will Mabon
172 Posted 30/10/2023 at 18:46:06
I think all 3 were Pam.
Brian Williams
173 Posted 30/10/2023 at 18:54:46
We all know the rule of thumb. Anyone who feels the need to brag of their sexual exploits is usually still waiting for their first one! 🤣🤣🤣
Dale Self
174 Posted 30/10/2023 at 19:26:25
Brian 167, so you were aware of that. Sorry, anyone would have known that was intended for the ‘Lurve Hammer’. ;)
Brian Williams
175 Posted 30/10/2023 at 19:36:14
Brendan McLaughlin
176 Posted 30/10/2023 at 19:53:30
Will #161

"Missing the match for sex is disgraceful."

I only missed the last 10 minutes after the fecking stewards threw us out!

Ray Roche
177 Posted 30/10/2023 at 20:01:39
Brendan, I think your ‘exploits’ involved a ‘smoke’, a crusty woolen sock that no one sane would touch even wearing nuclear grade gloves,, and yellowing copies of ‘Big And Bouncy’ coupled with a vivid imagination.

Just thinkin……

Dave Abrahams
178 Posted 30/10/2023 at 20:44:29
Ray (177),

I heard Brendan is a bit naive, he bought a video “Three in a bed” and when he put it on he discovered it was about Darts!

Ray Roche
179 Posted 30/10/2023 at 21:03:55
Nice one, Dave….🤣
Tony Waring
180 Posted 31/10/2023 at 09:13:13
My thoughts exactly, Will (165).
Tony Everan
181 Posted 31/10/2023 at 10:09:26
Mike 163, it was one of those moments which are sort of peripheral, but stay in the mind.

The ball down the right which Antonio was favourite to get. Branthwaite turning on the afterburners, pace operating in synchronicity with his balance and strength. There was only ever going to be one winner.

Antonio was brushed aside. Jarrad retained composure and possession too I think. First thought when watching that, was yet again… “Rolls-Royce of a footballer”.

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