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Abdoulaye Doucouré is in line to make his much-anticipated return from a hamstring injury

Everton are back at Goodison Park under the lights for the televised Monday night game where they will take on new rivals in the bid to beat the drop in the form of Crystal Palace.

The Eagles have been edging closer to the quagmire at the bottom of the Premier League as injuries to key players have taken their toll and Roy Hodgson has struggled to grind out the points in recent weeks to keep the South London club in mid-table.

On the flip side, Sean Dyche has been able to welcome back some important personnel after injury, with club captain, Seamus Coleman, and the versatile Ashley Young having returned recently and Amadou Onana fit again following a knee problem.

Most importantly, the Abdoulaye Doucouré is back in the fold and working towards sufficient fitness that would enable him to start for the first time since the goalless draw with Aston Villa last month.

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Doucouré has been a huge miss in midfield for all but one of a number of games and Dyche said during his press conference yesterday that the club’s medical staff Frenchman will assess him fully over the last couple of training sessions before a final assessment is made over whether he can start.

André Gomes and Arnaut Danjuma have been ruled out with calf and ankle injuries respectively. Gomes has resumed light training but Dyche expressed caution over the Portuguese who has been blighted by the soft-tissue complaint for a few months now.

Danjuma damaged ligaments late in the 0-0 draw at Fulham at the end of January and is a little further away in terms of a return.

The almost full complement poses a good selection headache for Dyche for once, though, in that he finally has central midfield options to consider. Does he give a well-earned break to one of James Garner and Jack Harrison or, if Doucouré is only risked off the bench, does he push the former forward behind Dominic Calvert-Lewin?

Palace travel with a number of issues, not least the health of manager Roy Hodgson who is in hospital in stable condition after falling ill during a training session on Thursday.

It’s possible that the Eagles’ chairman Steve Parish would have sacked him ahead of his team’s trip to Goodison Park had Hodgson not been stricken with illness as there were well-placed reports last week that Oliver Glasner has verbally agreed to replace the 76-year-old.

Ray Lewington is expected to take charge of team affairs in the meantime but he will have to do without those important pieces of the Palace side when it comes to picking a team capable of winning on the road for the first time since early November.

Talented forwards Michael Olise and Eberechi Eze are ruled out along with Cheick Doucouré, a significant miss in central midfield, while Marc Guehi is also expected to be sidelined and Will Hughes is a big doubt.

These two sides have already met three times this season, of course, with Everton having beaten Palace twice, once in the reverse fixture on 11 November and once in the FA Cup replay at Goodison last month.

With Onana back after his substitute’s appearance at the Etihad Stadium last week and Doucouré likely to play some part, the Toffees will feel more confident that they can get back to winning ways having not picked up three points in a League game since beating Burnley over two months ago.

Kick-off: 8pm, Monday 19 February, 2024
Referee: Paul Tierney
VAR: Stuart Attwell
Last Time: Everton - Crystal Palace

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Garner, McNeil, Doucouré, Calvert-Lewin


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Clive Rogers
1 Posted 17/02/2024 at 16:15:59
That’s definitely our strongest team. Apart from Young of course.
Jack Convery
2 Posted 17/02/2024 at 16:44:25
We have to be right on it from the off. Palace will be playing for Roy.

Get well Roy Hodgson and do yourself a favour and retire. Don't let this corrupt game destroy you.

Christy Ring
3 Posted 17/02/2024 at 17:03:56
I'd agree with Lyndon's lineup, Doucoure for Harrison, but considering Dyche won't even substitute him, he'll probably start.

We need 3 points with Forest winning today.

Jim Wilson
4 Posted 17/02/2024 at 17:39:57
For balance, I would start with Harrison and have Onana on the bench, coming on for Gueye, if needed.

This could just be the game for Harrison and McNeil to find some form in.

Paul Jamieson
5 Posted 17/02/2024 at 17:45:18
Tierney is the referee and Attwell the VAR…

We are handicapped before we even kick off.

Sam Hoare
6 Posted 17/02/2024 at 18:38:54
I think the term ‘must win' is overused but this is looking like an apt time to use it. Though we've been performing alright against some handy teams, we badly need some more points coming in and this looks like one of our easiest matches on paper. Though of course there are no ‘easy matches' in this league, as we've proved time and time again.

I'm not sure Dyche teams are often comfortable with the tag of favourites and we are far better out of possession than with the ball so it will be a real test.

I think Onana and Harrison should probably both start as they are two of our best passers and more creative players. Doucouré's running power will be more useful against the likes of Brighton and Man Utd so I expect to see him off the bench.

As ever, first goal will be crucial and Calvert-Lewin has scored more against Palace than anyone so I'm hoping he might finally break his drought.

Andrew Keatley
7 Posted 17/02/2024 at 19:03:16
If Palace are indeed missing Eze, Olise, Cheick, Doucouré and Marc Guehi, then it's hard to imagine a better time to be playing them.

Who knows how Palace will react to the Hodgson situation, but my guess is they may well be more unsettled and distracted by off-pitch issues than galvanised by them.

If we are focused and out-work them, then we should win. Maybe even comfortably. And a win would only put us 2 points behind Palace, and with most of their best players injured and other problems at the club, they are in danger of being pulled right into the middle of the relegation picture.

If we win...

Stephen Vincent
8 Posted 17/02/2024 at 19:08:41
Sam, Harrison one of our best passers?🤣🤣
Jay Harris
9 Posted 17/02/2024 at 19:34:19
We are Everton.

We should be going out there with a winners mentality.

We virtually have a full squad to pick from so there are no excuses.

Palace are weakened and Roy is in hospital and their club has more dissatisfaction than us at the moment.

3 points, no excuses.

Christy Ring
10 Posted 17/02/2024 at 19:39:51
The flak Calvert-Lewin gets for missing half chances, he needs McNeil and Harrison to be more offensive with crosses, and Dom does too much work further up and down the field instead of playing No 9 like he did for Ancelotti.

I'll probably get criticised, but if he got the chances that Haaland missed tonight, he'd be off the mark again.

Sam Hoare
11 Posted 17/02/2024 at 20:21:55
Stephen @8.

Well yes, him and McNeil create more chances than anyone else in our team. Who do you think are our best passers?

Lee Courtliff
12 Posted 17/02/2024 at 20:29:52
I really, really hope Olise and Eze are missing because I was convinced they would be fit just in time to play us!

No excuses for not winning this one given the issues Palace are facing, and I'm thankful they didn't appoint a new manager in time for this game.

Jonathan Haddock
13 Posted 17/02/2024 at 20:58:06
Referee and VAR, Dumb and Dumber!
Paul Hewitt
14 Posted 17/02/2024 at 21:09:35
Really need to win this game. Otherwise, a gap will start opening up with the teams above us
Stephen Vincent
15 Posted 17/02/2024 at 22:14:41
Sam, I sit in the Bullens, in line with the Gwladys Street penalty spot.

Week after week, I watch Harrison at pretty close quarters and, while there is no doubt that he works his socks off, his short-range passes are over or under hit, his long-range efforts nearly always poorly aimed, and he can't cross a ball to save his life. He does better with Coleman behind him, Patterson seems to give him the jitters. I actually think he does better just behind Calvert-Lewin, he was pretty good there against Fulham.

As for who I think are our best passers, well Jimmy finds a blue shirt more often than not and Branthwaite's range and accuracy improves game on game.

But generally our pass completion is pretty rank, only Sheffield Utd have a worse percentage.

Si Cooper
16 Posted 17/02/2024 at 22:36:55
I’ll just second what Andrew (7) has posted.
Tom Bowers
17 Posted 17/02/2024 at 22:41:08
We have been a less-than-average squad for a few seasons now.

Moyes gave us some stability for 11 seasons with an average squad but, since then, a slew of overpaid managers have failed and it seems to be the consensus now that the club has been mismanaged from the boardroom level, hence the current awful position.

Notwithstanding that they have an opportunity to get some points on the board in this next game but Everton have an awful habit of letting us down when we are expecting something more.

We have beaten Palace twice and drawn once already this season but every game is a new challenge.

They have a sick manager and some key players missing but that doesn't mean they will be pushovers, far from it.

They are heading in the wrong direction too and I am sure some of their stand-ins will be giving it their all.

It is up to every Everton starter on Monday to ensure that Palace are put on the back foot early and cannot get any impetus by Everton making silly mistakes, especially in the midfield.

Forest won today against a miserable Hammers team but we have to hope that Luton, Palace and also the likes of Brentford falter over the next few games too.

Jim Wilson
18 Posted 17/02/2024 at 22:50:34
I can't help thinking that, with Palace missing key players, Tierney and Attwell will be itching to send an Everton player off to even things up. It is the way I think these days.

So I hope Dyche stresses to the team, nothing silly. Although as we know a perfect tackle can get you a red card.

There is zero enjoyment in watching us play now. I am a bag of nerves and there is just relief if we win a game without anything untoward happening to us.

Ted Donnelly
19 Posted 17/02/2024 at 23:41:08
Listen, if we win all our home games, then we stay up – so let's start with a positive result on Monday and be confident and remain that way at home for the rest of the season... the team has got to start believing in themselves. UTFT!
Kieran Kinsella
20 Posted 18/02/2024 at 00:18:38
Jim Wilson,

You've officially joined the Tin Hat brigade with your assertion the refs will eye the Palace injury list and send one of ours off.

Danny O’Neill
21 Posted 18/02/2024 at 06:26:54
Always good to get back to the football.

We should go into this with confidence.

Some mixed comments.

Stephen, I agree, Garner is always looking to play forward and Branthwaite is going to be a special player. Even at a young age, his composure defies his years. Mind, Jimmy is only 22 as well.

Jim Wilson, we've all criticised the officials, myself included and it's understandable. There have been some shocking displays from people I can only imagine never played football or were not very good at it.

But calm with the paranoia. Next thing, we'll be cutting down 5G masts.

Derek Knox
22 Posted 18/02/2024 at 07:01:00
Danny, spot on again with Branthwaite (do not sell) and Jimmy G, we have two very good young players who we should basically build a team around. Include Dwight McNeil, and Mykolenko in that.

I have mixed feelings on Harrison, and think we could and should be looking at better options and not offering to make his loan permanent. Of course also keep the older wiser heads, Pickford, and Tarkowski.

Not sure about Onana either. If he could command silly money, it could be used (wisely) to replace most that I haven't mentioned. Seamus will surely become a part of the Training set-up, unless he can manage another bit-part year.

I would also keep Dobbin and Chermiti, again not convinced Beto (Bambi on Ice) is the man to be our main striker, mind you he has mostly had bit-part (too late usually) roles so the jury is still in recession.

Sam Hoare
23 Posted 18/02/2024 at 07:47:33
Stephen @15,

There's no doubt that the quality of passing overall is poor in this team, and that's a lot to do with Dyche's desire to get the ball forwards quickly and not risk losing it in our defensive third.

But within that framework there's not much doubt that Harrison is one of our most creative players.

Garner has been busy and tidy but people sometimes speak about him like he's opening up defenses every week, which he really isn't. And in fact both Gueye and Onana have higher pass completions.

I'm no huge fan of Harrison and am not sure I'd want us paying more than a minimal fee (£8M?) to keep him this summer. You're right to say his passing is not always accurate but he tries more difficult passes and has more vision than the likes of Garner and Branthwaite which is partly why he has the second most assists in the squad after McNeil, and is certainly one of our most creative players currently, as I said.

Steve Oshaugh
24 Posted 18/02/2024 at 07:59:57
Fingers crossed we can get back to a settled starting 11. That has been the story of January for us... Luckily we didn't do too much damage in our mini slump.

I think 3 of the back 4 select themselves but right-back is still a problem although, if Coleman is fit, he plays in my team.

Then 3 from a midfield of Gana, Garner, Doucouré and Onana is pretty good and will get better the more they play together.

Harrison is fine by me given the way we play, McNeil is excellent and Calvert-Lewin just needs a bit of luck to get going. This is no time to get on his back... we need him scoring so need to give him as much encouragement as possible from the stands.

We need to start getting some wins again just in case the worst happens and we lose some more points.

Ian Bennett
25 Posted 18/02/2024 at 08:14:33
Steve 24 – totally agree mate. We have to get our best 11 out there on a regular basis.

Not saying we won't need the other lads, but they're going to look better playing with our best 11.

Jerome Shields
26 Posted 18/02/2024 at 08:44:43
I don't think that Doucoure will start, too much of a risk. Harrison to start and the same selection as last time.

See Man City had a lucky ricochet again and Haaland played like Calvert-Lewin, though positionally better. Both Sheffield Utd and Nottingham Forest got 3 points in their last games.

Kevin Edward
27 Posted 18/02/2024 at 08:54:45
We need points against the teams around us, so this is a real test.

There's nothing to fear here, we have been playing well recently (based on the squad limitations) and have a decent record at home vs Palace. The problem is all the fluffed chances and lack of quality at key moments.

One day, someone in a blue shirt might step up and score some goals to steady the nerves and we win comfortably. I wish for it to happen on Monday, but my expectations are low. Another nail-biter, I suspect,

Dave Cashen
28 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:05:38
Our passing of the ball isn't the problem. It's our movement. A player on the ball in this current team has less options than just about every other player in the Premier League.

You have to accept we are in survival mode. The simple facts (which are supported by the goals for and against columns) are: We are the best team in the league without the ball, even though the Top 3 have conceded fewer goals. Unfortunately, that cuts both ways. We are one of the worst teams with the ball.

When so much emphasis is put on stopping the opposition. creativity will invariably suffer.

I believe the pressure on everyone in the Everton set-up is getting close to unbearable. Poor management and outside influences threaten our very existence as a top club.

We're trying to stay alive, and I believe we will, but you either buy into the manager's chosen path or you don't – I do. I think it's unfair to blame the players. Besides our defenders, I don't think we have a single player who isn't sacrificing a fair amount of his own game for the greater good of the team.

We will sell our better players; we have to. We will fight our corner (in the courts if need be) and we will continue to play with fist-shaking defiance rather than colour.

Everyone who loves this club is going through the mill at the moment.

This is where we show our metal.

Derek Knox
29 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:26:25
Dave C @ 28,

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, and like my very good friend John McFarlane Snr says, we all see things differently at times from the same game watched. However, I do think you are being a bit harsh on Sean Dyche.

He inherited a crock of the proverbial when he took the reins, told he had little or no funds to improve. Again, opinions… I like the guy and think he has done a decent job with what and who was available.

I often see him during match, head in hands, and I don't think it's an act; obviously, the players are not following the instructions. My biggest gripe though is his lateness of substitutions and sometimes who he leaves on and brings off!

If we hadn't had the point deduction, we would at least be mid-table, and possibly higher, because I believe the mere deduction has had a negative impact on the players too.

We have also been victims of very poor decision-making by referees and VARs who, along with the Premier League seem to have it in for us!

Mark Murphy
30 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:26:56
I don't think Doucoure will start, so 4-3-3:

Coleman Tarkowski Branthwaite Mykolenko
Garner Onana Gana
Harrison Calvert-Lewin McNeil


Danny O’Neill
31 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:45:39
Dave, as a player and FA Level 2 coach, I was always taught to look for space. More so as a coach, I didn't focus too much on the player with the ball, more so about the players off the ball and movement.

I still do it now. I'm always looking at where the ball is going or can be going next.

What you do off the ball is more often than not more important than what you do on it. You have to work harder off the ball than you do on it. Even if that is a lung-busting run with no personal end product, but it creates space for others.

When I watch, I don't always look at the player on the ball. Where it's going next and making space to place into.

I do it now watching Everton and others.

Tony Abrahams
32 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:50:16
I think Dave, might be referring to the management at the top of the club, rather than the only person who seems to be trying to manage anything connected to Everton, right now Derek?

I’ve been in London, watching Millwall these last few days, and It has genuinely been a head scratching nightmare down memory lane, watching them trying to sow silk purses, without the tools.

I’ve watching exasperated fans losing the plot because they really care, and the couple of fans I’ve spoken to at their games, have both said to me they would love the Everton manager at their club, right now!

Christopher Timmins
33 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:57:57
It's 3 points for us and hopefully another couple to be added on with a successful appeal outcome during the week ahead.
Danny O’Neill
34 Posted 18/02/2024 at 09:59:29
Give the Billy Smarts Circus going on around the club right now and all the Premier League cigar smoking politics, the Manager has done a great job protecting the team and keeping them focussed on the football pitch.

It's a tough gig, but he's the right man for the job right now and gets my backing.

He's got that team unified and the vast majority of supporters are behind him.

As a support base, we are are wounded animal. But we know when someone is doing everything they can in difficult circumstances.

Kirk McArdle
35 Posted 18/02/2024 at 10:08:42
With the amount of players Palace are missing then I feel this is a great opportunity to really get at a team.

Be brave an go for a 4-4-2.

Godfrey Tarkoski Branthwaite Mykolenko
Harrison Onana Garner O'Neil
DCL Beto

And just keep crossing the ball into the box.

This could be a superb 3 points at home and also bringing in a good couple of extra goals against a team which is considered a direct rival in the race to stay up.

Jim Wilson
36 Posted 18/02/2024 at 10:21:37
Kieran and Danny - Sorry for the paranoia but I don't think it's my fault. It is recent history.. It is a clear and present danger!
Danny O’Neill
37 Posted 18/02/2024 at 10:42:21
Don't apologise Joe.

We're off to Goodison tomorrow.

What could be better?

Danny O’Neill
38 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:00:59
Great interview with Mykolenko. What a humble person.

When asked which Everton player he would have liked to have played with: "Leighton Baines, although I wouldn't have played," was his reply.

I really like him. He also speaks highly of Patterson. With those two, Colonel Tarkowski and Branthwaite, the is one area of the pitch we are solid in. And Seamus still has legs in him.

Brian Harrison
39 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:01:50
Monday is a must-win whatever happens in the Luton v Man Utd game. Dyche has certainly improved the overall fitness of the side and admittedly the heads don't drop when we go a goal down, which happened a lot under Lampard.

But I think his obsession with starting Harrison in every game, worries me. I don't see what he gives to the team; for a wide man his crosses are awful and his ball retention is poor. Yes, he does run around a lot but you need more than work rate alone to be successful in the Premier League.

The team selection for Monday's game will be interesting; he could have Doucoure fit to start, which would be massive as I don't believe the system we play works without Doucoure. But I think we have to remember he has been out injured and may take a game or two to be back to match sharpness. So the question is, if Doucoure is fit to start, what team does he play?

For me, Gueye has to start; since he has come back from the Afcon tournament, he has been our best player. So does he bring back Onana and play 3 in midfield or does he leave Onana or Garner on the bench and play McNeil and Harrison wide with Doucoure just off Calvert-Lewin???

I know Dyche hasn't had a lot to spend but he has brought in Beto, Danjuma, Harrison, Young and Chermiti; other than Harrison and Young, the others have had very little game time, so you have to ask: Were the additions he brought in the right ones?

I think, because we play with 2 holding defensive midfield players, it strengthens our defence but weakens our attack, and to pick up wins, we need to change that narrative a little.

Raymond Fox
40 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:11:53
The way the table is shaping up we need to start winning beginning tomorrow.

Our midfield is not enough of a threat, in fact from back to front we are lacking going forward.

Our best chance of goals are corners -why not play to force corners- and free kicks into the goal mouth.

A few points returned off our appeal is looking like we may need them yet.

Dave Abrahams
41 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:27:13
We all know that lack of goals is one of the main reasons we are struggling to garner in the points that are required to get us up the league and stop some of the worrying and aggravating situation we are in.

With that in mind, I think serious thought has to be given about playing Michael Keane upfront in the remaining games, even off the bench. Calvert-Lewin is finding it hard playing the striker's role on his own, chasing his own flick-ons. Beto…? Maybe in the future, he doesn't look capable. Chermiti… is it asking too much? Dobbin looks the better of the three but Dyche seems wary of trusting him with too many minutes.

Michael Keane has proved he can score; we are desperate and desperate times means desperate measures and, looking at all the alternatives, I don't think Michael Keane is too much of a desperate measure.

Clive Rogers
42 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:37:18

Keane has scored a few when moving from the back and ghosting into the box. Playing up front and being man-marked is a different kettle of fish.

Beto is struggling badly with the Premier League and Chermiti has not shown anything that suggests he will make it at this level.

Dobbin deserves more time on the pitch. The last 5 minutes is simply unfair.

Tony Cleary
43 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:53:05
Minor point but Calvert-Lewin has scored recently - one lovely goal against Spurs disallowed; one close-range header attributed to Harrison because it brushed against him on the way in.

I'm not sure how they are affecting his morale: positively – he can still put the ball in the net; or negatively – the fates are against him!

Robert Tressell
44 Posted 18/02/2024 at 11:54:28
The lack of goals is down to a defensive shape and lack of quality and pace on the flanks and in the Number 10 position. It may be helped by playing Danjuma and / or Dobbin more but we would lose some of our defensive strength.

It is not resolved by playing Keane up front.

Dave Cashen
45 Posted 18/02/2024 at 12:03:50

You are preaching to the converted my friend.

The poor management I was referring to was the management of the club. Not the team - At least not the current one.

Dyche is doing what he can with the hand he has been dealt.

When I said we are one of the best teams without the ball, it was meant as a compliment to him. I couldnt have said that about Rafa or Franks team..

I'm a purist at heart. I love the beautiful game played beautifully, but needs must. There are always situations which will make us reconsider our principles and beliefs.

As Churchill said; There are no atheists in a life boat

Dave Abrahams
46 Posted 18/02/2024 at 12:05:47
Clive (6),

You may be correct, Clive, but Keane has been man-marked at corners and still scored a few, the penalty area was crowded when he scored that very good goal vs Crystal Palace that helped to keep us up.

As I say, we are desperate and have to use everyone in the squad. I think Keane is just as likely to score as, Beto or Chermiti, maybe more so after watching them since they arrived.

It's unlikely that Dyche will use Keane that way. I wouldn't want him to be used defensively but it might even come to that before the season is over and that would be a bigger risk than playing him upfront!

Sean Kelly
47 Posted 18/02/2024 at 12:13:16
Danny, spot on, lad. Having played both codes here in Ireland, soccer and GAA, and having coached in soccer, my thinking was always how much a player contributed on and off the ball for the duration of the game.

If you take your time on the ball and subtract it from the time on the pitch and allowing for recovery, I always watched how active a player is. The need to be on your toes for the 90 minutes is imperative – and I'm not just talking about being physically on your toes but mentally.

I know Sam Allardyce said it but, if a player is not interfering in play, then he shouldn't be on the pitch. Different context, I know, but the principle is the same.

For example, if you play on the right-hand side, it is also important for the left-sided player (including the full-back) to be engaged, thereby dragging any opposition away from the ball.

I do hope all players are engaged tomorrow and we get our 3 points enabling Dyche to bring us nearer survival.

I will take any reduction in our outrageous 10-point deduction when we get it but, until then, we must ensure our own survival on and off the pitch.

Alan McGuffog
48 Posted 18/02/2024 at 12:26:56
Damn right, Sean, but I think it was the great Danny Blanchflower who first said that.
Michael Kenrick
49 Posted 18/02/2024 at 12:35:31
Danny @44,

"Great interview with Mykolenko."

Well, where is it then, Danny?

Don't be hogging it to share with all your Red 'cousins' (who, to be perfectly honest, I'm quite sick of hearing so much about!)

Dave Cashen
50 Posted 18/02/2024 at 13:06:24
The quote about "players interfering with play" has been attributed to several managers (including Shankly).

What became a cliche was around long before Allardyce.

Personally, I liked Clough's version – "If a player isn't interfering with play. He isn't getting paid".

Talking of Cloughie, he was not averse to employing Dave Abraham's suggestion. If his team wasn't scoring, he would have no qualms about replacing top class strikers with agricultural centre-halves like Lloyd, Needham, or Burns (a former striker). They caused havoc.

Different game today, but the basic premise is still the same and, although I'm not sure Keane has the same level of aggression, I certainly wouldn't dismiss the idea.

Colin Malone
51 Posted 18/02/2024 at 13:12:12
Haaland won't be waking up with a horse's head in his bed today.
Dave Abrahams
52 Posted 18/02/2024 at 13:44:03
Colin (51), I know he’s been walking round with one on his shoulders since the day he was born, God help him!
Sean Kelly
53 Posted 18/02/2024 at 14:00:31
Jeeprs Michael who stole your bun.
Derek Knox
54 Posted 18/02/2024 at 14:19:46
Holgate helping us ! Red Card in the first few minutes. Dat's our boy ! 🤔😥
Geoff Williams
55 Posted 18/02/2024 at 14:31:40
Holgate has done us a great favour by getting sent off this afternoon. Let's hope Man Utd can make the day even better by beating Luton.
Paul Jamieson
56 Posted 18/02/2024 at 14:32:38
Just need Utd to do Luton we do Palace tomorrow - 4 maybe 5 points back Tuesday - happy days
Christy Ring
57 Posted 18/02/2024 at 14:34:19
A shocking tackle by Holgate, a real leg breaker,what was he thinking, doing us a favour?
Danny O’Neill
58 Posted 18/02/2024 at 14:35:45
Here's the transcript Michael.


I'll try and find the video I watched.

I'll be with the cousins tomorrow! As well as my blue ones!

Ray Roche
59 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:03:44
When Ancellotti was here, Calvert-Lewin didn't have a problem scoring. Balls into the box, hang around the 7-yard box and there you go. Not chasing your own headers from a goalie's 80-yard punt.

No wonder the lad's struggling.

Carlos Nunes
60 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:21:00
Daughters are over from Canada to watch their first-ever live Everton game and obviously first time at Goodison Park.

Predicting a 3-0 win!

Jamie Crowley
61 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:45:01
With results the way they are this weekend, this Palace game is gigantic.

Must-win in my mind.

Brent Stephens
62 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:46:21
Several chapters into the new book by Lyndon and Steve Dickinson, about the Moshiri years (so far), 2014 -2023.

A great read. Packed with factual information and analysis; easy reading (and, no, I'm not on "commission" — hate that word lately!).

Jamie Crowley
63 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:49:41

Try "kickback" instead. 😜

Joking. Where did you get the book?

Brent Stephens
64 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:55:01

I bought it on Amazon. Advance Xmas present that I need to tell my wife about!

Oliver Molloy
65 Posted 18/02/2024 at 15:59:33
Jesus Christ, I've just seen Tom Davies on the telly.

He's fairly changed his look!

Bobby Mallon
66 Posted 18/02/2024 at 16:12:59
Ray Roche @59,

FotD there!

Jerome Shields
67 Posted 18/02/2024 at 16:23:31
David #27,

'Our passing of the ball isn't the problem. It's our movement. A player on the ball in this current team has less options than just about every other player in the Premier League.'

That is exactly what the problem is and it can be seen in the lack of basic positional awareness and may be contributed to by the need of a defensive mindset, as you suggest. Like Tony #32 I think you are referring to the Club Management rather than Dyche.

Everton are poor at holding up the ball and providing support for laying off the ball is not used or isn't there. Forwards drawing fouls and line balls is rare. A lot of possession is lost at not being good at this. Crosses appear to be poor, but the target is often obscured by poor or no proper positional play. Movement as Dave calls it, players get fed up trying ] and forwards can look isolated, even irrelevant as far as the opposition defence is concerned.

You can use lack of pace and defensive mindset to explain, but it is more lack of awareness and poor basic play.

Stephen Davies
68 Posted 18/02/2024 at 16:46:39
Tarkowski out injured...??
Billy Shears
69 Posted 18/02/2024 at 16:57:43
Other results going our way for a change but we need a few good results ourselves, especially at home.

Another tough game but I think we'll have just enough to get this one over the line.

2-1 Blues.

Robert Tressell
70 Posted 18/02/2024 at 16:58:26
With a fully fit first XI, we look okay. Doucoure has been a huge miss and hopefully he is properly fit to start.

If we can play our usual 4-5-1 / 4-4-1 / 4-3-3 system, then we should create chances and beat Palace. I'm not really sure why anyone thinks it's a good idea to get all experimental.

There's no need to start tinkering with the line-up or tactics because they plainly work. They have got a weak side in very serious relegation trouble for the past 2 seasons into the comfort of mid-table.

It is the points deduction, not the tactics etc, that have put us back in a relegation battle. Unfortunately the points deduction means there's going to be an even greater focus on safety and defensive shape – which alas means a fairly static attacking set-up with little movement and passing options for the man on the ball.

Unfortunately again, because of the lack of quality and pace on the flanks and in Doucouré (who is effective without being talented) at Number 10, that is probably the right thing to do.

Brent Stephens
71 Posted 18/02/2024 at 17:22:29

"If we can play our usual 4-5-1 / 4-4-1 / 4-3-3 system..."

Robert, I hope we don't revert to a 4-4-1 at any time in the game!

Frank Fearns
72 Posted 18/02/2024 at 17:23:40
Danny @31, Jerome @67,

Re your comments, just watching Luton with Barkley running the show: always in space to receive the ball; when on the ball, allows time for players to make space; only seen one back pass, always forward or sideways unlike one of our midfielders. Drifting past players and making surging runs.

I'd have him back any day. He has been outstanding in the 1st half.

Mark Ryan
73 Posted 18/02/2024 at 18:07:24
Interesting commentary in the Luton game.

Commentator says the Luton manager looks at the league table without the current points deduction cos he doesn't want to be relying on that and I can see the sense in that because he knows where that's all going.

Robert Tressell
74 Posted 18/02/2024 at 18:44:22
Barkley can be hit and miss but is blessed with genuine talent. We have no-one of his ability.
John Atkinson
75 Posted 18/02/2024 at 19:01:13
Stephen #8. Completely agree with you!!
Dave Lynch
76 Posted 18/02/2024 at 19:14:23
We have a team of very highly paid professional footballers who it appears cannot pass, or cross a football.

I'm calling bullshit on that one, your decent-level amateur can do that all day. Our problem is the way we play the game: our movement is poor and we don't get enough bodies up the field quick enough to support the strikers, so in effect concede possession.

Sam Hoare
77 Posted 18/02/2024 at 19:15:07
We're not quite as bad with the ball as some would have you believe. I mean yes our passing is poor and seldom accurate but we are still creating chances (though a fair amount are from set-pieces).

We are 10th in the league for big chances created and understat have us at 10th for xG.

The bigger issue has been finishing the chances, with Beto, Danjuma and of course Calvert-Lewin as the most guilty culprits.

If we continue defending as well and creating as much and reach even a mediocre level of finishing, then I think we'll be absolutely fine. Hopefully Dom rediscovers his shooting boots tomorrow.

Paul Ferry
79 Posted 18/02/2024 at 19:45:07
Carlos have a great day/night tomorrow at the match. We will win.

Raymond Fox (40): "The way the table is shaping up we need to start winning beginning tomorrow".

I have to respectfully disagree. This has been a decent couple of weeks. Forest apart, this weekend has been a boost: Burnley and Sheffield are 99.9% down; Brentford and Bournemouth are having a race to see who can get in the bottom three first; Luton lost; and Palace will lose tomorrow.

Kirk (35): 4-4-2 and no Gana? No thanks.

Pete Gunby
81 Posted 18/02/2024 at 19:54:55
Barkley was outstanding today. Fortunately, his last minute header hit the bar.
Paul Ferry
82 Posted 18/02/2024 at 19:57:06
He was, Pete.

I'd take our Ross back in a heartbeat but we need him more than he needs us.

Andy Crooks
83 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:04:22
Sean Kelly @47, good post.

It demonstrates that those who are at the game (I'm not there that often) often see more and take a different view.

Jerome Shields
84 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:05:47
Frank #72,

Barkley may create by the way he plays, but Everton's movement off the ball is not as good as Luton's. Though I expect the clubs of the Premier League to pull them in soon enough.

Danny #31,

Yes, it is all about creating space and getting into it. Flicks may or may not come off. Calvert-Lewin and Doucouré try this a lot. Cantona at the end of his time at Man Utd resorted to flicks, he was gone soon after that.

Raymond Fox
85 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:11:24
You cant disagree with me, Paul @79, I'm always right!

Sheffield and Burnley are doomed, and the Luton result was needed and greatly received today.

Luton I feel will be the 3rd team to be relegated; I don't see them finishing above Palace, Brentford, Forest or us.

I'd like a few points back just to make sure though.

Paul Ferry
86 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:21:55
Love that, Ray!
Peter Quinn
87 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:37:38
Ray at 59.

The Observer article today by Andy Hunter is a good read. It very well captures the striker dilemma. Calvert-Lewin is poor, but Beto is even worse.

Calvert-Lewin's goalscoring record in Premier League matches is:

2016-17: 11 games 1goal
2017-18: 32 games 4 goals
2018-19: 35 games 6 goals
2019-20: 36 games 13 goals
2020-21: 33 games 16 goals
2021-22: 17 games 5 goals
2022-23: 17 games 2 goals
2023-24: 20 games 3 goals

Apart from when Rodriguez was putting goals on a plate for him, that's not a brilliant return from our talisman. It illustrates the problem Dyche has inherited in terms of where the goals will come from.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow night. Let us hope it is a real bear pit under the lights at the Old Lady. Carlos @60 I hope your two daughters have a great evening.

James Marshall
88 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:37:40
It's worth noting that Luton play Liverpool, Man City and Villa next 3 games.

We play Palace, Brighton and West Ham.

On paper it's a good opportunity for us to put a bit of daylight between us and them.

Oh and maybe getting a few points back as well.

Jerome Shields
89 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:44:00
At home and a game after one result. We stand a chance of progressing up the table.

We really need a committed effort, especially with the appeal result coming next week.

Danny O’Neill
90 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:51:05
Dave Abrahams @41

I've said many things about Michael Keane and he worries the shit out in defence.


Dragging us back from the drop against Palace. His screamer against Tottenham and his contribution to lay it on for big Yerry to save us at Wolves.

Why not?

The contemporary Mick Lyons! Needs must. Stick him up there.

John McFarlane Snr
91 Posted 18/02/2024 at 20:56:01
Hi Andy [83] I believe that the TV viewers see more than the match going fans, [for example], I sit in the Park End Stand, and quite often an incident may occur at the Gwladys Street End, which is over 100 yards away. The TV viewer has a much better view and can see it more than once, while I have to wait until 'Match Of The Day'. I am looking forward to your next visit when we can share our views, hopefully at the 'Bramley Moore' pub.
Robert Tressell
92 Posted 18/02/2024 at 21:02:28
Peter # 87, as your stats prove DCL thrived on good service in a decent team. so the problem isn't DCL its the dramatILinkc drop in quality since the money ran out.

Most strikers are the same.

I just watched the City v Chelsea highlights and saw Haaland miss 4 chances that DCL would be crucified for. Harry Kane the same for Bayern v Bochum.

Obviously DCL is not in their league - but he is clearly a top 10 standard striker and would do well for clubs like Brighton and West Ham with much better attacking / creative players and full backs than we have.

Mark Murphy
93 Posted 18/02/2024 at 21:33:58
I’m sorry but sticking a big centre half up top does not have a place in the modern game - it’s soooo 70’s! I’d be absolutely stunned (and dismayed) if Sean Dyche resorts to that tomorrow night.
Mark Murphy
94 Posted 18/02/2024 at 21:54:50
Anyway - it may be a moot debate - rumours Tarks is out.
Keane and Branthwaite at the back???
Derek Knox
95 Posted 18/02/2024 at 22:03:34
I sincerely hope the rumours of Major General Tarkowski being injured in the line of previous fire have been grossly exaggerated. The man has been an ever present, and I believe we are very lucky to have him.

Not only a very, very, good rock, and defender, but a great influence on others round him. In the absence of Seamus he is always Captain (demoted from his aforementioned Rank). Not only that, we got him on a Free !

If this is the case, why can't we have Godfrey/Branthwaite as our CD pillars ? We have a few who can slot in as Right Back !

Peter Mills
96 Posted 18/02/2024 at 22:23:08
The emotional strain of the season just increases.

I’m quietly jubilant for myself, my son, two grandsons, and most of the rest of my family that Sheffield Utd have lost again. Mrs Mills says “Don’t you care about your other grandson and two sons-in-law?” (Blades fans who follow them home and away).

There really is no answer to that question, but I’m open to advice.

Dale Self
98 Posted 19/02/2024 at 00:19:17
Derek 95, good call!

I think the progress Godfrey has shown deserves the chance if we now need him. This could mean playing Young at RB since he has performed well with Branthwaite and Young in nearby positions.

I certainly hope Tarkowski is okay but Godfrey could damn sure do that. He has to watch the early card though.

Bobby Mallon
99 Posted 19/02/2024 at 06:24:44
Please play if fit
McNeil. In a 4/3/3 formation. We need this tonight
Danny O’Neill
100 Posted 19/02/2024 at 06:31:26
Tarkowski is my current favourite Everton player, Derek. He is a calm but very influential leader of the team.

I also like how he fronts up to the opposition when handbags break out and he just laughs at them.

Very different to Duncan Ferguson or Pat Van Den Hauwe, but effective in winding them up and protecting his team mates.

As always, I won't predict. Whoever has the privilege to cross that line tonight represents Everton Football Club and goes out to win.

Ray Roche
101 Posted 19/02/2024 at 09:02:13

‘Rodriguez was putting goals on a plate for him,'

Unfortunately Peter, he's getting virtually no service at all, never mind on a plate. Like someone else pointed out, Haaland and Kane both missed good chances at the weekend and they're different class to anyone.

DCL doesn't get half the opportunities they get, but maybe if he did he might have a few more goals. At the moment he's too busy running after his own headers!

If he gets good service and still consistently fails to score then criticism is valid.

Dave Cashen
102 Posted 19/02/2024 at 09:24:50
"Apart from when Rodriguez was putting them on a plate for him"... Really ??? Is that what happened ?

DCL scored 21 goals in 39 games. Rodriguez only played 26 games in total. You can count the number of DCL goals Rodriguez had a hand in on one hand.

I'm not interested in Stats which show scoring records of a young lad's cameos while breaking into the team. Especially when he played in about 5-6 different positions. Nor am I interested stats which make no mention of the fact that he was repeatedly asked to play for two seasons while carrying long term injuries.

I'm far more interested in the 36 goals scored in the two seasons in between when the player was fit and was played at Center forward.

I will never understand why Evertonian`s want to damn their own players with stats they know to be misleading.

Danny O’Neill
103 Posted 19/02/2024 at 09:32:40
I don't read too much into stats either Dave.

Dominic is best as an in the box striker, not being Marcus Bent chasing corner flags.

Hopefully with Doucoure back, he'll have some support. He's been pretty much on his own these past few weeks.

Dave Abrahams
104 Posted 19/02/2024 at 09:38:19
Dave (102), Yes two very good season from Dominic when he was concentrating doing one job, scoring goals, before and since he has had to play up on his own chasing his own flick ons while coming back for the ball or chasing passes on both wings then holding up the ball while waiting for support from teammates who are in short supply unless Doucoure is playing.

Dominic will play better with at least one winger who has a bit of pace and go past his full back and swing some centres in, until then he is feeding off scraps and like Sean Dyche has to suffer until the club is run like a football club should be run,

Hoping for good news this week on getting plenty of points back and 777 getting the thumbs down sign.

Colin Glassar
105 Posted 19/02/2024 at 10:17:45
As I'm fairly useless making predictions, I'm going for a 2-0 home win and a 11.55pm announcement declaring Everton have failed to overturn their 10 points reduction appeal.

One step forward, three steps back.

Mark Murphy
106 Posted 19/02/2024 at 10:32:41
Just preparing to catch the train from St Helens, (where I spent the last two days fortunately unharmed and managed to escape the marauding gangs of criminals and didn't get called derogatory names even by my mad sister) and heading for lunch at the Phil with my adopted scouser son, Billy.

Hopefully the little darlings on Lime Street will see the massive big clock and refrain from asking me the time as I disembark - they always got upset when I answered for some reason…

May pop in to Dr Duncan's later for a pint of that Crème Brûlée stout they're serving at the moment before a short nap and then the start of the match ritual involving the ubiquitous pint or three at the Harlech.

I've got the nerves good and proper - I consider this a MUST win - I really hope we do it!

I've not heard any more re Tarks so hoping that was just twitter tittle tattle. Up The Fcuking Toffees!

Danny O’Neill
107 Posted 19/02/2024 at 10:35:42
On my way.

Hospital visit then on to to sacred ground.

Brian Williams
108 Posted 19/02/2024 at 10:36:09
Get a tenner on "4 points back, 1-0 win tonight, 777 fail."

Tell the bookie Dave Abrahams sent yer!

Mark Murphy
109 Posted 19/02/2024 at 10:52:15
Colin, if we win tonight I’ll be a little more relaxed about and points decision. The bloody minded part of my brain (ie most of it) would be happy to stay up despite the deduction, VAR, Media and no penalties just so we can stick two fingers up at the lot of the corrupt, arrogant bastards!
Re tonight I really feel it’s just as important for Dom to score as it is to win. Once he’s up and running I think we’ll climb regardless of the appeal. UTFT
Steve Brown
110 Posted 19/02/2024 at 11:24:40
Dave @ 102,

Perhaps those criticising DCL think he should get on the end of his own flick ons or crosses when he deals with Pickford’s long balls.

The Athletic article also shows that Dominic is getting into goal-scoring positions - “ Calvert-Lewin’s expected goals per 90 minutes this season of 0.58 is the highest of his career, eclipsing his 0.51 total in 2020-21, when he scored 16 goals under manager Carlo Ancelotti.”

Having watched this season’s games, he very rarely gets quality delivery when he gets there - and that is after working right across the width of the pitch and running the channels as a lone striker. He might get decent chance a game and he will score soon.

We know what £25 million and £12 million gets us - Beto and Chermiti. So thank goodness for a fit Dominic.

Steve Brown
111 Posted 19/02/2024 at 11:26:57
Sorry Dave A @ 104, just saw your post.

You made the same post far better than me!

Colin Glassar
112 Posted 19/02/2024 at 11:38:19
Rumours abound that Tarkowski will miss tonight’s game. That would be a massive blow, if true.
Tom Bowers
113 Posted 19/02/2024 at 12:00:55
Just another nervy game where we have to keep our fingers crossed for the right result.

Manure did us a favor yesterday and RS could do us another one on Wed. but City can help tomorrow by winning and keeping Brentford within reach.

However we know that we have to start winning as well and today is massive.

Yes, the officials are crap and can mess things up but Everton have to overcome that possibility.

Tom Bowers
114 Posted 19/02/2024 at 12:00:55
Just another nervy game where we have to keep our fingers crossed for the right result.

Manure did us a favor yesterday and RS could do us another one on Wed. but City can help tomorrow by winning and keeping Brentford within reach.

However we know that we have to start winning as well and today is massive.

Yes, the officials are crap and can mess things up but Everton have to overcome that possibility.

Paul Birmingham
115 Posted 19/02/2024 at 12:18:37
Time to focus on the match, and earning the right to play and beating Palace.

A win tonight will ve a massive boost for the soul of Everton FC.


Brian Wilkinson
116 Posted 19/02/2024 at 12:18:38
Dave A, you are not on your own with your vision on a few fronts, I am also hopeful of a win tonight, a few points back as well and 777 given the thumbs down.

Sadly I think the horse has bolted on your other comment on Keane, while Doucoure was out, Guaye away, and Onana out, we had a good opportunity to play Michael Keane just behind Calvert Lewin as someone who could have thrived on Calvert Lewins knock downs, or been in a position where he was further up field and could get into a position to get a shot off, our nemesis is players not getting a shot off or hitting row z, with Keanes better finishing I would have said Keane would have given us better options in attack.

I know some are thinking too old fashioned lumping a centre half as a striker, I would have him linking up with a striker and if a chance comes along you can guarentee Keane will strike the ball with power and accuracy.

If anyone can get any odds on a great chance coming out of the penalty area and falling to Guaye, I would put your life savings on a great chance being blown with a shanked shot, you know it is going to happen at some point tonight.

Mal van Schaick
117 Posted 19/02/2024 at 12:24:42
Everton 2-1. Calvert-Lewin to score first goal. I'm on it.

If we show the same effort and commitment as we have done against the better teams that we have lost to, we will get the win tonight.

Remember, we are the home team and we should play on the front foot.

Dave Abrahams
118 Posted 19/02/2024 at 13:12:44
Steve (111), I think we both make sense over Dominic.

Mark (106), I've been out all morning, I went past the Philarmonic pub about 12:00 pm, if I'd known you were going to be there, I'd have gone in and had a bevvie with you and Billy.

See you soon anyway but it won't be tonight unfortunately.

Jamie Crowley
119 Posted 19/02/2024 at 13:39:33
Big, big game today. We need to, have to, win these types of games.

Win 3 points and then a 4-point reduction announced from the Premier League. Please God?

Les Callan
120 Posted 19/02/2024 at 13:49:10

Only a 4-point deduction?

Behave yourself. All 10 back.

Tony Abrahams
121 Posted 19/02/2024 at 13:55:37
If Tarkowski is injured, then please play Michael Keane up front.
Paul Morrison
122 Posted 19/02/2024 at 13:56:15
Just arrived in Liverpool from Australia via Anglesey. Managed to get a ticket in the Gwladys Street tonight.

Billy No Mates though so, if anyone is having a beer beforehand nearby, please text 07830 627136. Cheers.

Dale Self
123 Posted 19/02/2024 at 14:14:14
Good work, Paul. Cheer us on to 3 points. Very jealous.
Jamie Crowley
124 Posted 19/02/2024 at 14:30:36
Les -

A guy can dream... but be realistic. Surely there has to be some reduction later this week?

I just can't fathom how a system penalizes a club 9 points for bankruptcy, yet issues 10 points for $20M-ish over the spending limit?

Madness. Illogical. Witch hunt?

Whatevs. Three points today is a must.

Mark Murphy
125 Posted 19/02/2024 at 14:31:53

I arrived at the Phil at12.30 and after a short wait had the best steak and ale pie in living memory!! Love the Phil!

Rob Jones
126 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:01:14
It's no coincidence that Ross Barkley, a great player but perhaps not the mentally strongest, is flourishing in a team and under a manager who appears to be giving him nothing but love and positivity.

The only other similar run of form in his career was under Roberto Martinez, who despite his many flaws, seemed able to get something more out of Barkley than anyone else before Rob Edwards.

As much as I'd like to see this version of Barkley playing for us, I'm not convinced that Sean Dyche (whom I do like) would be able to coax the same level of play from him. There's also the fact that this entire season is a complete free hit for both Luton and their players, with a complete lack of expectation and pressure upon them.

James Marshall
127 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:33:30
Guehi, Eze and Olise are all injured which is great news for us. Palace have been shocking lately so this is a great opportunity for us to actually score some goals and win a game.

If we have Doucoure back and can't beat Palace without their 3 best players, then we're up shit creek.

Dale Self
128 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:38:12
This is a potential 8 pointer. Start posting like it. Come On!
Andrew Clare
129 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:41:42
It's absolutely vital that we win tonight. The last couple of years have been a nightmare. It's awful to think that we are no better than the other dross at the bottom of the table.

It's humiliating for a great club like Everton to be in this position. 30 years of mainly mediocrity – when will end?

Stephen Davies
130 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:48:55
Panic over... Tarkowski is in the team tonight.
Paul Jones
131 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:54:00
Hodgson has just stepped down from Palace.

I wonder what kind of effect that will have on them tonight?

Rob Halligan
132 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:54:27
Roy Hodgson has stepped down as the Palace manager.

I assume it will be Ray Lewington who will be in charge tonight for them.

Bill Fairfield
133 Posted 19/02/2024 at 15:57:07
Wouldn't it be good to be 3-0 up after 20 minutes. Be a nice change from being a bag of nerves for 90 minutes. COYB.
Jimmy Carr
134 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:05:42
Don't care if we can't pass
Don't care if we can't cross
Don't care who scores
Don't care how we play

We just need 3 Points!!!

COYB, Let's have it!!!

Pat Kelly
135 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:09:07
So Hodgson's available.
Eddie Dunn
136 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:19:49
We simply have to win.

The players know, the staff know and we all know. Palace might try and put on a show for departing old Woy but surely, with their best players out, we have to beat them.

If we can't, then we are in deep.

Alan McGuffog
137 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:21:41
Mark... high praise indeed from a St Helens man. Better than Pimbletts?
Barry Hall
138 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:27:53
I am with Bill. 3-0 win - with an early goal to reduce some stress.

Fuck getting back some points in the appeal. Let's take 7 points out of the next three - and avoid relegation anyway. Then let the corrupters be faced to deal with Man City's transgressions.

Sean O’Hanlon
139 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:28:12
Pat #138
To Play or buy? ;-)
Rob Jones
140 Posted 19/02/2024 at 16:51:43
Easier said than done, but we can't worry about the Premier League's utter bastardry towards us. Our focus has to be on the upcoming fixtures, many of which are winnable, provided we have our best players back.

We have to win tonight and against Moyes's boys in a fortnight. A point against Brighton, who are not all that this season, wouldn't go amiss.

Seven points would go a long way, especially with Luton facing some gruesome fixtures ahead for them.

Bill Gall
141 Posted 19/02/2024 at 17:47:28
See Palace have hired a new manager a Oliver Glasner, I think he was last at Wolfsburg.
Pete Hughes
142 Posted 19/02/2024 at 18:06:38
Palace New manager in time for ko, hope we don't don't suffer new manager effect?
Colin Glassar
143 Posted 19/02/2024 at 18:10:15
We will Pete, we always do.

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