Everton late entries to Hudson-Odoi race?

A player I've touted for a few years on here, still very young but on over £100k a week after Chelsea rejected a reported £80m bid a few years back.

Definite 'yes' if the price and wages are right. Forget about Gnonto.

Even if we don't sign another winger, I think Dobbin is a good, capable option (if Dyche trusts him).

One of the few positives in that shit show over the weekend.

Callum Hudson-Odoi is 22. He was on loan to Leverkusen last season.

A player who has played a total of 158 games, with the majority of them as a left winger (at this rate we'll be more socialist than Corbyn): LW 72, RW 56 and AM 30. He's also played 29 times across 4 other positions, CF, RM, SS and LM.

Last season his stats (in Germany) were 1 goal and 1 assist in 21 appearances. He played over an hour on 11 occasions.

In 2021-22, playing for Chelsea, he played 28 games, with 3 goals and 6 assists. He missed 14 games due to Achilles tendon problems.

In 2020-21, he played 37 games, with 5 goals and 5 assists. He played most games as a RW.

Swerve.

My guess is that this would be an Iwobi substitute if his hamstring requires surgery. £8M is a good price, but his wages are too high. I think he would do better on the right wing.

Andrew and Vijay,

Have you kept up with him since he was a precocious teen debutant 5 years ago? Hasn't exactly set the world alight. He misses more games than he plays for one reason or another.

About three goal involvements per season on average and an Andre Gomes level wage. He seems to me like a modern day Cadamarteri. Overhyped after a handful of (flukey?) games and gradually exposed over subsequent seasons as not very good.

If he hadn't played for Chelsea, nobody would have heard of him.

I've watched every Chelsea game going and have never been impressed by him.

I don't know what Demarai Gray has done to piss Dyche off but he is better than Gnonto or this lad and he knows the club well.

Jay Harris,

As far as I can recall, the sum total of his "talent" was demonstrated about 5 years ago when he had a shot from about 30 yards that either hit the crossbar or the goalie tipped over in a big game.

So essentially, he had a moment like Conor McAleny formerly of this parish who had a similar shot, save, crossbar deal at a similar age as a sub for Everton v Arsenal.

Conor was packed off to the lower leagues once people realized that was the extent of his talent. Hudson-Udoi being from the fashionable Chelsea - Kensington area near the FA was fast-tracked into the England team and has been living on that moment since.

As I recall, Tony Yeboah tried a few shots like Conor and Hudson-Udoi but he actually scored. But even he is not regarded as some legend. More a charlatan with a false age on his passport who scored a couple of flukey goals before conning Howard Wilkinson into giving him a massive contract before doing fuck-all else until he left Leeds.

If you watch the highlight reel for Dobbin at Derby County (granted it is a lower level) you'd be equally impressed given Dobbin actually put the ball into the back of the net.

If, if this is a true rumour, it just shows Thelwell's complete lack of imagination and ambition. And yes, I blame Thelwell rather than Dyche as the players we're linked with, eg, Danjuma, are all people Thelwell has previously pursued. Thelwell's history is picking up scraps dictated to him by Jorge Mendes and a miserable failure to make an impact in New York.

Apparently, according to Danjuma's agent anyway -- he is a nice man. Well guess what? Mike Atherton, Graham Taylor and Neville Chamberlain were nice men. But where the Hell did it get them?

Where did being nice get Atherton, Taylor and Chamberlin?

England cricket captain with a long and distinguished career, England football manager – managing for decades at the top level, finally prime minister of his country – the pinnacle of a political career.

Surely there are examples of nice people who don't go on to do incredibly well in their chosen professions?!

Hudson-Odoi, Chelsea and Fulham: follow the money-ish, or rather see where it isn't going.

Chelsea can't 'give him away' for £8M or, if you want, Fulham won't even pay £8M. Is it because he wants too much wages, he hasn't even got to move house – it's round the corner, for fuck's sake.

We overdosed on 4- or 5-year, £100k per week contracts for no-marks for too long... and if nobody will up to now, pay basically wh at we sold Simms for, this equals a no-mark who wants too much money to me.

And swerve Gnonto too - over-priced potential... Talking about Onana...i f possible and the price is right, sell that 'drifts in and out when it suits him' big Galoot too!

Hudson-Odoi burst on to the scene with Chelsea and was an absolute talent, selected by England and was the subject of a 70-80m Bid from Bayern Munich. Chelsea fought to keep him and offered him a massive contract. He then almost immediately did his ACL and was out for a year. He then struggled to break into a Chelsea Team brimming with attacking talent.

The reality is that if had turned into the player predicted he would not be anywhere near joining a relegation threatened team. Its an 8m punt. I think worth a punt. Yeah hes on 100k pw at the moment, but that contract is coming to an end and hes not getting that offer from anyone. I'm not going to talk about what would be a reasonable wage as they´re all unreasonable wages really.

The club seems to be distancing themselves from this one now with Japhet Tanganga, the CB from Spurs the latest link.

Never impressed me neither... would rather have Gnonto,ta.

Si Pulford

Obviously there are people who are nice who have failed more greatly but I used those three as high profile examples of people who failed in the top job. Chamberlain outwitted by Hitler. Atherton outwitted by Brian Lara, Shane Warne and every other half decent cricketer outside of New Zeland during his tenure. Graham Taylor outwitted by Egil Olsen, Alexie Lalas and the "blonde man who shouldn't have been on the pitch." All very pleasant well meaning people but all failures when it mattered.

In one of Tuchel's first games at Chelsea, he took this guy off early. It was a sort of Moyes-Blomqvist moment.

Afterward, Tuchel said his body language and attitude was wrong and he wouldn't put up with it.

Think he had a few more chances but the penny never dropped. Same sort of body language as Bruno Fernandes on a bad day.

Stuff like that is perhaps small, but also telling. If he had the right attitude, he wouldn't be getting haggled over for £8m by two of the worst teams in the league.

I think that alone should be enough to rule him out but, fortunately, Thelwell will probably rule him on on the grounds he can't only play left wing.

I think you're correct there Paul #14.

Barkley Mk 2.

This is the type of signing that would signal our free fall into the Championship imo.

Everton definitely need wingers but they also need a couple of old-fashioned arl arsed pronto. I couldn't believe the lack of effort and footballing savvy, and the look on Steve Stone's face told me everything I needed to know.

Stone has always been a very honest professional but the look on his face told me that he knows that he his not surrounded by many like-minded people.

Moshiri and Kenwright are responsible for our current position, and the club has become nothing short of an embarrassment because of their unadulterated ineptitude.

It's showing on the pitch now so the last thing we need is more players who will just pass on responsibility whilst things are going wrong.

I'm going back to my holiday now because this current Everton just depresses the life out of me. Especially the bastards who won't relinquish control of a football club they actually seem intent on completely destroying.

I read a report that Hudson-Udoi is so desperate to leave Chelsea, he is willing to take lower wages.

Maybe, his compromise will make this deal happen, but I'd much prefer us to sign Gnonto, Sulemana or Bakayoko over this lad.

Gavin

I read a report Brett Angell is desperate to leave Tesco. Sign him up.

Maybe we should try this?

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