The resurgence of Beto under Moyes

I was just saying to a friend, that he's becoming a cult figure with the supporters, however long his time left with us turns out to be. We love goals, but even when it doesn't come off, we respect effort. And lately, he has demonstrated spades of it.

I said a few reports ago, that whilst I don't always like to see someone benefit from another's misfortune, but when Calvert-Lewin got inured, I hoped he would get a run.

There is something likeable about him, including his goal celebration.

I’m sure Moyes can seek out a few hungry strikers around the footballing World to bring in we are a better prospect now with Moyes than we ever were with Dyche. Out of the 12 out of contract or loan end I’d keep Mangala Alcaraz both no brainers, Virginia maybe Gueye rest can go 💙

Dominic is a converted MF player and it shows in his finishing. He is still a great footballer and excellent header of the ball but Beto is much the better finisher and we don't have any issue with his contract!

Dyche's system was not designed to assist his lone forward, It was the other way around and both men struggled to score, Beto struggled to even play, but lets remember DCL was MOTM too when the shackles were taken of by Moyes and he scored the best individual goal seen at the old lady or years.

It's hard to believe this club has two center forwards, because some of or so-called have never shown any loyalty or support for one.

No wonder he has shown none back.

Beto has effectively become one of the 2 additions (Alcaraz the other) I always said necessary to have any chance of progression. Add in the invaluable contribution of O'Brien and it has to be said Dyche might have dropped the ball not getting the best out of them.

Should we take this back? Hate change?

God. Michael...Lyndon.

We all love you.

TW

1. Very quick reports. Takes new folk time to sort that.

2. Silly and stupid fighting online.

TW V Evertonia.

Oh yeah we won!

That was "US"! Websites won nowt.

Your mate

Xx

The early season injury crisis and failed takeovers left Dyche looking fatigued from it all.

As you say, Moyes takes a lot of credit. He's lifted the place, got some of the players really going and the new signing of Alcaraz looks astute.

We're in good hands for the next stage of our development.

From the website:
Everton Under-18s face Wigan Athletic Under-18s in front of 10,000 supporters at the first test event of the Blues’ new stadium – and fans can watch a live stream of the game on the Club’s official YouTube channel

I think you're right he looked absolutely shattered.

But it's a results business and reasons/excuses just don't figure he looked to have sussed out his likely demise months ago probably hoped new owners would publicly back him and supply funds, but it just didn't happen.

The downside of earning big bucks is accountability is unforgiving - win or down the road you go.

Indeed what we’ve seen this season is that DCL with a one-on-one was virtually guaranteed to make a mess of it and fail to score, mostly by hitting the goalkeeper. Beto’s goal on Saturday was pretty much the opposite: he lifted the ball just enough to get past a prematurely diving goalkeeper and a defender trying to block a shot, a beautiful, well thought through shot. So even though he looks like a muscular beast, in fact he played it more like a 1970s Brazilian, than a 1990s Millwall (or 1970s Redshite) goon.

The composure of Beto and Alcaraz on Saturday may be the beginning of a new School of Science if they can be supported by a more thoughtful midfield and confident defence. Anyone know what James Rodriguez is going for these days?

Beto has thrown himself head first into every challenge. He looks ungainly and is a throw back to a previous era.

I thought he was very harshly treated by Dyche. DCl kept getting game time, Beto would come on for the last 10 mins and cause more threat than dcl had done all game.

Broja wasn't even fit but leapfrogged over Beto to get game time.

Now that we have injuries the lad finally gets a run in the team.

We are playing differently under Moyes, fullbacks pushing on a bit, slightly higher defensive line and midfielders are looking to get the ball forward.

Beto is having a purple patch and long may it continue. A player who leaves it all out on the pitch is a great start in the current era. There is something very refreshing about his character, he isn't media trained to death, he wears his heart on his sleeve.

I don't think Dom will be signing a contract, Broja is made of glass and Chermitti is an unknown. Beto could be leading the line at BMD next season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3ykhnaoMc

The conundrum now will be the summer. I hope he stays, we'll certainly need him especially if DCL looks very likely to leave and Broja probably going back to Chelsea. We'll need to bring in two replacements in the summer.

Currently he's full of beans and hopefully he goes on to score a bagfull between now and the end of the season.

Big event happening tonight...

But where is the timely ToffeeWeb article, highlighting this incredible moment in Everton's history?

Well, I would be posting it — if I'd been given access to do so as a member of the Editorial Team. But I haven't… and so that probably means it's the end of the road for me posting here.

Farewell to all Blues. It's been one hell of a ride. Enjoy the new stadium.

Come on Charles and Anjishnu you saw how his last write up went down.

It had made my mind up that I wouldn’t be bothering very much with Evertonia except as a browser when I read his post.

He might still be finding that horses head in his bed if he doesn’t get you back!

There's an article on Evertonia with a link to the game in the first or second comment.

2-0 down the Wigan boys bossing it so far, they have a couple of half decent youngsters as it happens.

The match day threads, with regards all the other fixtures, have also been missing and although things constantly change and evolve Charles, I do think a lot of the regulars (people who have helped make this website what it has become) will also start to go missing if Michael, loses the right to do the things he excels with.

Probably our best player so far Dave.

They have a centre half called McGee who has been the standout so far imo.

Nigel (43) I scanned the team news, Graham is down as playing on the left wing but is much better as a striker, fiery little Red head, any chance of us coming back and making it one of those 3-2 games!

Seems to be playing more central as a number 10 I would say Dave, he’s done well very, fiery as you say, puts himself about in the tackle too. I don’t know mate, Wigan looking much the better team overall though we did come back into it in the last 15 of the half, so you never know. The stadium looks great.

£9 is fecking ridiculous. We are not chavs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3ykhnaoMc

Good move by Graham lays it off for Finley who wastes the crossing opportunity. Time running out Dave, though like you say the Wigan lads look noticeably bigger.

Where is the article about our first ever match at our new stadium?? It's a disgrace.

The fact that the new so called editorial team are either:

A. Unaware

Or

B. Can't be arsed

Speaks volumes on where this website is now going.

What a terrible start from the new editorial team.

Better this half though Dave, still some time left for an equaliser, 3 minutes.

The pies were six pound odd Dave.

Can just about handle £6 a pie.

Very very disappointed Michael Kendrick piece about this historic game was omitted, that could be the nail in the coffin for ToffeeWeb for me, unless the editors get their fingers out and quickly rectify this for our next next home game Saturday.

We are all behind you Mike and what you have given us over the years, hopefully the editors will realise the mistake and get you back onboard.

Sounds amazing Brian, someone made a point about the stands not being close enough to the pitch from an atmosphere perspective. From the TV though they looked fine to me, what do you think.?

The plaza is immense and things were well organized inside and out.

Nigel I thought the stands were near enough. We were in the front row of the upper tier and felt close to the pitch. Obviously the nearer the top of the upper tiers you're going to be further away but same goes for the top balcony.

You'll love it, we'll all love it, trust me. 💙

Jonathan Tasker and Tony Marsh (I drive past every day and there is fuck all going on, not a brickie or hard hat to be seen) told us over and over again that it would never get built, and I for one believe them.

Invest in pies, although it made me feel a little bit warmer when you told us all the wind doesn’t really get inside the stadium, Brian.

Seriously the ground needs a railway station when you consider that the track is already there and they don’t seem to be offering the motorist, much chance of parking anywhere remotely close to the stadium?

I have always had a lot of respect for The French Resistance, Paul, so it’s an Allez Le Bleu, from me👍

See you all at Evertonia.

It will be shocking and defining (possibly destructive) negligence by you if you cause Michael to leave the editorial team by your neglect and lack of care.

Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
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Big event happening tonight...

But where is the timely ToffeeWeb article, highlighting this incredible moment in Everton's history?

Well, I would be posting it — if I'd been given access to do so as a member of the Editorial Team. But I haven't… and so that probably means it's the end of the road for me posting here.

Farewell to all Blues. It's been one hell of a ride. Enjoy the new stadium.

Only Paul Ferry selecting hymns for BMD

The fact that the new so called editorial team are either:

A. Unaware

Or

B. Can't be arsed

Speaks volumes on where this website is now going.

What a terrible start from the new editorial team.

At least BBC are on the case

We know what is happening, when it's happening, and whether it's significant. Because it's a big part of our lives.

It's kind of like asking a 'oh, I'm a big red' who they're playing next. Most of the time they'll have no idea and won't understand why that matters.

These wannabes are ruining the best Everton Fan Site EVER, by their attitude that articles will 'write themselves' or some fan will save them by writing one. That is well before a match or milestone event/article It is pissing me off good style.

I think most members were making allowances for their newness to the task but here we are again getting monumentally let down. As you so rightly intimated this is, or rather was, a historic event in the life of Everton FC. What did we get - nothing !

As if they are inviting or encouraging failure while purporting to be one of US. Echoes of the Maggot ? We all know how that ended don't we ?

Charles/ Anjishnu, get your fucking act together for the right reasons or I am definitely gone and am sure I am not alone either.

STAND BY THIS ROCK OR INDEED YOU WILL PERISH !

Nothing new has appeared in the spaces below articles DK - forum/general messages etc. - since the takeover. I bet this will be the same this time next week,

These new whatever they are not incorporating us as MK and LL always did Derek.

I'm rapidly losing patience. The LF is always precious and we regulars will post on a particular thread like this one DK. But a lot is missing and before too long it will be most of us mate.

Over to you, Charles.

A real shame the first goal was scored by a RS playing for Wigan, who thought it would be a class move to hold up 6 fingers to rep the European cups that lot won. Wanker

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The match reports are almost immaterial. They are there solely to open the debate. Michael Kenrick's match reports were often a complete work of fiction. His confirmation bias towards certain players would completely cloud his judgement. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen one player receive thunderous applause at the match only to get home and read articles reporting that he hadnt put a foot right.

Michael has a lot to offer. His prepared articles were often on par with Lyndons - You don't get better than that. His knowledge is vast. He is a very fair editor who chose to let the game flow rather than take a whistle happy approach. He is most importantly an Evertonian - Hence the flawed reports.

If the people who have acquired this site want to keep the numbers they have. They need to sit down with MK and talk to him about what it will take to keep him happy.

Perhaps they are intent on going in a different direction and looking for a completely different set of numbers.

But can we have less of the Angie Watts ? If your going to leave just leave

Am I missing something.
As for indignation with TW, Yes, is it very disappointing that there is nothing about tonight’s historical event but for all those with a hump who are posting that they are leaving and heading to Evertonia, I see no post there either.
Me thinks there is some sort of coordinated effort to discredit TW and get people to switch to Evertonia.
Currently, I am registered with both and will wait to see which forum provides me with the best Everton news.
The jury is still out. TW certainly is not the same since LL and MK are no longer involved but Evertonia is far from an adequate replacement.
For the moment, I will monitor both and see who provides me with up to date news on upcoming matches, post match analysis and fan experiences.

That’s exactly the approach I’ve decided to take as well Neil.

To you Andrea

Just went back to Evertonia and the site certainly seems to have been upgraded since I checked it last night. Now certainly looks more like the old TW. I joined last week when it was just a bare site and I probably didnt refresh it because some of the arrivals I see now were posted a couple of days ago.

Will still switch between both to see where I can find the best content ideally without the petty bickering which often dominated TW Threads.

As it has only taken 4 years to build and we announced the capacity a while ago.
I was asking for a DLR type and Danny O' was saying trams were needed and we have nothing

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Or the City of Liverpool Rob

The comments section Rob, I wouldn’t bother mate. I read a few until it got to the one about the stadium, and Joe Anderson, ruining the city’s UNIESCO STATUS🤦‍♂️

The Friedkin’s have got that much money, it would be good to see them elbow our disgraceful backward looking council, and maybe try to join forces with the owners of Liverpool football club, because both club’s definitely need better facilities with regards public transport, imo, and the train lines are already in place

All good fun but if an Everton fan scores at Anfield and produces two fingers, then he would have the book thrown at him, even if he claimed it was to remind everyone that Champions Everton, twice had to miss out on playing in the European cup, because of a tragic event, brought on by our neighbours.

Anyone with any vision would have used the development of the stadium as part of an overall transport plan for the waterfront which will see huge development over the next few years resulting in lots of people requiring access to good public transport.

We have talked about this years ago. I did an update of a solution that sticks out like dogs balls. Post 26.

Trackless Trams

The tracks for these trams can be laid very quickly at a fraction of the cost of other alternatives. The trams themselves can run on ordinary roads to other track in different parts of the city. A very cost effective solution.

The new stadium will host games for Euro 2028. Time for some smart cookie to cut a deal for funding with the powers that be. The alternative (sitting on their hands) will be very embarrassing for all concerned.