Premier League — Matchweek 20

Brilliant header by Solanke.

And Gordon equalizes... or does he?

Yes, no handball given. Which is a talking point as it definitely assisted the creation of the goal, and would have been disallowed last season, surely?

Game gone mad!

Danny Murphy says right decision, Michael, and he's a hghly paid 'expert' so you're clearly wrong.

Happens all too regularly, Paul.

But what a beaut by Haaland. Fantastic cross from Savinho.

We can only hope that Man City go on a run, Michael, and they had a bad patch.

It was a great goal.

Iwobi winner today please

Ffs Ipswich ahead

Bloody hell, Fulham were well on top.

I hate having to hope for three worse teams, surely your destiny should be in your own hands? Who would plan otherwise?

I'd be surprised if Ipswich win today, but they attacked and got rewards for it. Our parasite of a manager surely is on borrowed time.

They’ve been getting battered by Fulham, lucky to not give a penalty away or have a man sent off and then score…. You couldn’t make it up.

Maybe TFG are awaiting the outcome of this, and tomorrows match at Wolves, before pulling the trigger?

There's 3 ex-blues on that pitch today. 2 of them, Robinson and Broadhead we let go for peanuts. All of them are better than what we have.

For fuck's sake, looking at Silva sitting there on the bench, looks like he's accepted defeat already.

Fulham are battering Ipswich but Ipswich players, despite their limitations, are giving everything.

The list of players gone recently is embarrassing…

Oh for Robinson or Digne now...

Ipswich 1 up against Fulham.

We can't rely on 3 teams being worse than us.

And we could be Bottom 3 if Wolves win tomorrow.

Joy of joys.

That should have been a red card for Davis, for bringing Wilson down.

He had a clear run on goal and no way was any covering defender getting anywhere near him.

His touch was too heavy. Yellow card was correct for Wilson

Ipswich defending really well here. (Hoping I’ve put the mockers on them here).

Rubbish iwobi!

My first thought was Red...
Var would not have changed that in my opinion...
Watching Robinson today with a mix of envy and regret, many posters on this site sang his praises when he was not being used by us what a mistake letting him go..

Big 30 mins.

Ipswich going above us in the table could be the tipping point.

100% penalty to Fulham. Got to be!

I guess it looked a bit like a trip to the ref, but it has to be a spot-kick.

Given……and scored.

Thank God for that

Phew, now win.

Ref can't miss that, it was a clear pen.

Fook.ipswich pen

Cmon Fulham

OMG

Fuck me, one the other end now, but surely not a penalty.

We're cursed

Not sure about that one, kicked his foot?

Ffs pen for Ipswich.. converted!

Yeh, kicked his foot, so penalty.

Great penalty though.

Made a meal out of a little kick on his foot.

We're in this mess because the club failed to sack Dyche months ago.

I was speaking to a Stoke fan who said that Delap was worse than useless when.he played for them.
Transformation

We've been in this mess for about 4 years now, every season. It's soul destroying.

Dyche being given a lesson by the Ipswich Manager 1pt is no good in a relegation battle you have to go for 3

Why do Ipswich have bad breath as their sleeve sponsor?

Wouldn't it be great if we had a manager who told his team to have a go, instead of giving up possession and playing totally defensive formation.

Sack Dyche. We're daydreaming into Stoke away!

So. It's come to this. Sweating on the result of a game between the mighty Ipswich and Fulham. This is Everton FC. Jesus wept !

The only positive I've got is we still have 19 games to play. With a new manager and a couple of new signings I think we can easily stay in this league.

So Ipswich are above us now if they hold out for the next 5 mins and win at Fulham.

Another Fulham pen.

Fulham penno

2-2.

Yessss. Bloody hell!

What's it come to?

Cheering a 2-2 draw to help us in our desperate plight?

Isn't it a sad state of affairs, when we're cheering for Fulham and 19 games left?

Exactly, Rob.

But recently Ipswich have been worth points, playing for their future, got to admire them.

Even if Ipswich don't win, they still look very capable of scoring goals, and getting wins.

A post away from 3 - 1, then a penalty conceded and scored.

Lucky Dyche.

It's just sad of what we've become, Andrew!

Let's not forget, Ipswich spent over £100m, plus loan signings last summer.

2 teams going for it. Dyche raising a glass right now.

Feels strange to actually watch an entertaining game

Okay, so they couldn’t hold on…

But we can’t rely on 3 teams being worse than us.

Why, did my uncle, (God rest his soul) think taking me and my cousin to watch Everton for the first time in 1968 was a good idea?

Christy, let's not forget Everton have spent a lot more than Ipswich, including Carlos salary.

The Liverpool game got the go-ahead after John Lennon Airport was reopened at 10:15 am, after the runway was cleared.

Sorry guys it’s all I’ve got at the mo.

Rob@41

Stoke probably had a shit manager Rob, whereas Ipswich have one who plays to his strengths

So despite Ipswich being the new world champions. They are still behind us having played a game more ?

Thank goodness for that. After reading some of the comments I was beginning to think we were going to be the only team in the history of football to be relegated with 19 games left

We're doing our best Colin

Also, Brian, don't forget all trains into and out of Lime Street Station were stopped until around midday, so plenty of time for fans to get to Liverpool.

Colin, they will soon be the new Flavour of the Month!

At least Ipswich are having a go.

How many world beaters have they got?

But at Everton, we keep hearing "The squad, the squad, the squad."

The blurt in charge has had two god-damned years working on them, with them…

Joe @3, Completely agree.

It all started with Moshiri bringing in Koeman, who threw away millions on average players, giving them massive salaries, some are still here, and selling our best striker for years in Lukaku.

It's been downhill ever since.

Aaaaannnnndd……..Mute!

Colin 68, okay, you are a voice of reason here, and there are as you say 19 games to play.

Are you at all concerned though? Should we really stick with this?

Ipswich got another point today, and could have had all 3.

They have lifted the fans, raised confidence in the squad and affected their perception by opponents, all positive things... I want that for Everton.

Colin C 'the voice of reason'. We are in deep trouble and no amount of, erm, your 'corrective realism' can gloss over that.

Ipswich right now are better than us and could easily have won today and leap-frogged us. They scored as many goals today as we have in the last 10 games.

In Delap and Davis, they have exactly what we need. On present form, we are going down and your attitude does not help us one bit.

And remind me who we play in that precious game in hand you mention? That ought to be a stroll in the park for a team who have forgotten how to stroll for the time being.

Is John Lennon Airport still closed?

United doing okay so far.

Paul, Nail on the head. We are in deep trouble, Fulham getting a (deserved) point still can't hide the fact that, Southampton aside, we're the worst team in the Premier League.

But we don't need to be. We showed against Bournemouth at home, at least for 87 minutes, away to Leicester, Ipswich away, that we can attack.

But, while Bonehead is in charge with his lack of a Plan B and his fear of crossing the half-way line, we will be the worst team in the league to watch.

It's depressing being a Toffee under Dyche and no amount of whistling in the dark will change things. Is it too late to find a better man to stave off relegation? God, I hope not.

Of course I'm concerned Andrew @75

When your horse is coming under a ride before you are half way through a race, you have to recognise the distress signals. We're an awful team playing awful football. That wont change under Dyche.

This club needs to live to fight another day and by that, I mean stay in the division. I wont be heart broken if Dyche gets sacked, but I wont be joining the ranks of the drama queens screaming hysterically for his removal at every game (including ones that we are not even involved in) either.

The manager who can take the years off our six ageing stalwarts doesnt exist. These players wiil continue to get us points when we don't expect them and cost us points when we do - No matter who the manager is.

Thats where we are and I don't see a manager as experienced as Dyche in this sort of situation.

As for bigging up an ipswich side who sit below us despite being the recipients of some amazing shot-in-the-arm decisions given to them today. Words fail. I thought we were Evertonians. Didnt we have all this about Luton last season?

IF,IF,IF. If we hadnt already beaten the Marvelous Tractor boys in a canter. They would'nt be languishing below us now.

Just a heads up for anyone following AS Roma since the takeover.

Tonight is the 'Derby della Capitale' or the 'Derby of the Capitol',

AS Roma vs SS Lazio at 19:45 GMT

Oh, and here's the table;

Serie A table (current)

Last bit of news, AS Roma have been hit with a €3M fine by Uefa for breach of UEFA FFP rules, brought about by an increase in Director Capital Loans (non-converted).

It has been reported that TFG are unconcerned and won't appeal.

Colin, I don't think anyone is bigging Ipswich up.

If you were a neutral and watched our game yesterday and theirs today, who would you say looked the better team? Who would you rather watch?

We are currently the worst team to watch and only Southampton are below us in the form league.

I know we had three good and unexpected results recently but I, for one, am really concerned about our avoiding relegation.

Nigel (78),

I only watched the last few minutes of the first half and thought they were mostly playing like Everton yesterday – defending at all costs and giving the ball away too cheaply.

I hope they did better than that before I started watching them stall them for the rest of the game and even sneak it!

I'm terrified of relegation and despise the way we play, but don't see how anyone can argue Ipswich are better. Not only did we beat them, but the table shows them below us having played one more.

They do look like scoring more than us, but also look like conceding more. There ain't much in it. And their second goal today was a pure gift from a weird Castagne error.

Salah just checking with the ref what time is he getting his penalty

Colin #80 We are Evertonians But we are playing worse than we did last season, No wonder were shitting ourselfs on how the bottom clubs are doing The fans are doing there best to big us up unfortunitly we have a Dinosaur in charge

'As for bigging up an ipswich side who sit below us despite being the recipients of some amazing shot-in-the-arm decisions given to them today. Words fail. I thought we were Evertonians. Didnt we have all this about Luton last season?.

Words fail me Mr, Crooks. No one is in your derogatory terms 'bigging up' Ipswich. Let's take me, for instance. Where is the 'bigging' up in anything that I say about Ipswich? Do you disagree that they are a better team than us at the moment, that they scored as many goals today as we have in the last 10, and that we could really do with Delap and Davis? I'll also add that unlike us they beat Chelsea and they play on the front foot, have pace wide, overlapping full backs, and put crosses near the penalty spot?

Want to disagree with any of that 'bigging up' Mr, Crooks? I also enjoyed your snide 'drama queens' and 'Evertonians'. I also appreciate how the tone of your 80 is so different from your 68.

But you keep up your heroic proper 'Evertonian' rallying calls. The problem is that Dyche/you is/are not Henry V and our squad are no Welsh archers

Stuart on Ipswich conceding - true, but while we seem more likely to scramble draws, they seem more likelier than us to scramble wins.

Hahaha…….get in!

Get in!

That Alexander Arnold is fucking rubbish. God knows why Carlo wants him at Real Madrid.

Oooo... don't like either of these but that was a great goal!

Fuckin Gakpo has improved immensely since joining this lot.

Prime example of a good manager improving a player that's a rough diamond.

Gapko laced De Ligt there.

Hang on, Jim, you idiot, did you not listen when the great Dyche said that 'we' have made players ten times better?

Have some fecking respect, Jim.

Whilst Dalot skins Arnold time and time again on the other flank, Paul.

FFS Rob & Paul!
Why’d you go and get me interested?? As soon as I check in on that lot they fcuking score!!
I was happy in my ignorance.

Can’t argue with that penalty decision.

Morning/afternoon Mark. He did that Rob. De Ligt having a fucking nightmare. This will be given.

So, 68th minute then!

Shit, thought he’d saved it.

Onana maybe should have stopped that one. You would have, Rob. No doubt.

That is not a foul FFS!!

Pat Nevin, who I really respect and like, has his tongue well up Salah on 5Live.

'Down with the. ' who?

Couldn’t make it out, Paul. It was in some kind of strange Norse dialect.

2-2……👏👏👏

Afternoon / morning Paul.

Was it you that mentioned Kirklands the other day? I'm up in Liverpool on Thursday and meeting my youngest boy (he's at John Moores University) in the afternoon. I may call in to Kirklands for old times sake (probably after the game though).

It's not called Kirklands now, although the sign is still above the door and looking in from the outside the set up looks the same. I used to drink Schlitz (I think?) in there in the early 80s.

Nailed on that a VAR decision will be contrived to get the spawn a late win.

Well, well, well, looky dat.

Missed the 2nd making a cup of tea! Get in!

FFS Carlo, change your mind about Arnold.

It was me Mark. That's a buzzing part of town. Some great places on and off Hardman Street, Hope you have a great time.

I want him gone, Rob.

Aiming for pie of the day at the Phil, first then on from there. A pint in The Grapes (the Roscoe Street one) then down to Doctor Duncan's before heading off to County Road.

I hear Kirklands (aka The Fly) has a late license so I'll call in there after the game. Hopefully for a celebratory beer.

ps: Tell me when Man Utd level it, please…

It's 2-2 mate.

Seven extra minutes just called.

For fuck's sake, Maguire, you fucking bellend!

Well, at least Man City gained two points this weekend.

Paul #112…

I want to see Ndiaye tie him up in knots before getting sent off. People say there's no weak link in the Liverpool team. Well there's one glaring one, right down their right flank.

Great game.

Two teams going at each other like they should.

Agree, Rob, and we might even have one or two new lads who can make a difference.

For me, the twat is just so entrenched in them. Robertson defending is another weak link, Rob. All we need are two pacey wide lads!

Colin #114, no worries. Pretty much everybody here reached that conclusion years ago.

I just laugh and ignore him.

Without actually reading many of the comments I'll wade into the Ipswich debate if I may? I am from Ipswich and a ton of my mates support them. Incidentally I was raised a Norwich fan by my dad until my defection to Everton aged 8!

I am with Paul on this, Ipswich as a team are considerably better than us. Delap is looking like the bargain of the season to me, they picked him up for £15M! He holds it up like DCL, runs with the ball like Cunha and can finish. His value has more than tripled in 6 months. A proper striker.

Leaf Davis is excellent yes, his assist stats for town have been insane (ignore his error today). They have other good players too, Omari Hutchinson a stand out, Greaves growing into the PL and in Szmodics and Broadhead they have creative players who can nick one.

More crucially however, they have an excellent manager. Probably one of the most sought after young managers in the UK. He can count himself unlucky Utd were too cowardly not to appoint him (his dream job, every Town knows his heart is at Utd) when they sacked Ten Hag. They are adapting to the PL, WILL strengthen this month (owner is loaded and willing to invest) and they are going into each game swinging. None is this anti-football shite we are producing under SD.

IF we have a gameplan to keep SD we will go down if its us vs Ipswich. I can go on but my heart is too downbeat right now. I know I should be excited about the ground, I know we won't have this dinosaur next season but the football is that bad I can't get excited. I am not one for calling for the head of a manager but we need an action plan and fast.

HAHAHAAHAHA Mr. Gaynes. 'Everybody' on here 'years ago'. Funny how you chatted all the time until I/we embarrassed you with your Calvert-Lewin nonsense.

And you don't 'laugh and ignore,' my friend. You posted endless posts digging your deep hole. A typical snide response but that's fine.

Look around you, Mr Gaynes. 'Everybody'. Nothing worse than someone who leaps on another post to spout your 'minority position', Mr Gaynes.

I remember the days when Mike and Paul were mates on here. Dyche out!!!

Ah Colin, that Calvert-Lewin nonsense and response could not be ignored.

It got out of hand, I agree, but that was down to Mike Gaynes and not all the people he insulted.

First red on 606 Rob saying that Arnold should go.

Living off his Barcelona corner.

Steve (123),

I think they are getting Ben Godfrey on loan this week. He went off the boil with us, he hasn't done very well in Italy up to now so might relish getting another chance in the Premier League.

Great game at Anfield this afternoon.

It only deepens our shame; I don't believe that we are even Championship standard at the moment.

Come on, Martin, we are not that bad!

Has he left yet ?

Maguire! What a muppet.

Jack (131),

Yes, a terrible miss… but if he had scored, that might have gone to VAR because the striker who supplied the pass looked just offside as he ran through, and it is Liverpool.

Watching today's two games gave me a gentle reminder that football is all about entertainment.

Then there is Everton… lol.

Exactly, Jim. Football can be great.

Everton are dross.

Getting away from RS and Manure and back to our predicamant.

We need to win games soon and to do that we need to score goals.

We don't play in red so cannot expect penalties and the free kicks have dried up.

We all agree that our offensive prowess is really quite ''offensive'' to watch apart from Ndiaye on the odd occasion.

It has to be laid at the feet of Dyche so let the new board get shut and spend some decent money on new players of higher calibre than we have now.

Good to see Roma beating their rivals and 4th-placed Lazio last night. Albeit with only 30% possession at home.

Ranieri now has 3 wins from 5 and looks currently like evidence of TFG acting quickly to correct their mistake in appointing Juric (who will hopefully continue to struggle at Southampton).

Always good to see Lazio losing, Sam.