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Dele Alli was among the Everton party that made the short hop from John Lennon Airport to Dublin today as the players begin their pre-season training camp on the Emerald Isle.

The Club have been in talks with Tottenham over revising the agreement made when the 27-year-old was signed from the North Londoners in January 2022 whereby Everton would need to pay a lump sum to Spurs if Dele were to sign a new contract at Goodison Park.

Dele's existing terms expired this summer and it had been expected that he would leave after he had taken up the opportunity to train with the Everton squad and build up his fitness at Finch Farm over the summer.

However, the Blues have signalled a desire to offer him fresh terms and the Daily Mail went as far over the weekend to suggest that an accord has been struck with Spurs that removes any trigger of an initial payment for the former England star if he does indeed elect to stay on.

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Jarrad Branthwaite, the subject of two failed bids for his services from Manchester United so far this close season, was also in the group along with Dominic Calvert-Lewin who has yet to sign a new contract at Everton.

Youngsters Reece Welch, Billy Crellin, Zan-Luk Leban, Roman Dixon and Eli Campbell also travelled with the first team as did new signings Tim Iroegbunam and Iliman Ndiaye.

Everton take on Seamus Coleman's old club, Sligo Rovers, in their first pre-season friendly of the summer on Friday. The game will be available to stream for Season Ticket Members and Official Members as will all of the Toffees' summer friendlies.

 

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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 15/07/2024 at 18:45:41
Careful with the steps.
Liam Mogan
2 Posted 15/07/2024 at 18:59:52
Anyone know if the club will stream the friendlies like in the past?

I can't see anything on the club website.

Brent Stephens
3 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:03:21
Liam
Link
Brian Hennessy
4 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:20:24
I've looked everywhere here at home in Ireland today and can't find any of them.
Robert Tressell
5 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:22:25
Colin # 1, it is comments like that, that make me wish there was a "like" function on ToffeeWeb. I've had a bad day, but that has cheered me up.
Liam Mogan
6 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:26:11
Thanks Brent.

Drives me insane that website.

Derek Knox
7 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:33:13
Brent @ 3,

Are you on a commission?

I have just renewed my Digital Membership! :-)

Brent Stephens
8 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:50:00
Derek — yes, but 5% of feck-all is feck-all (before tax).
Jim Bennings
9 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:50:26
I wonder if we'll be wearing last season's Hummel kit?

Still not any sign at all of a glimpse of any of the new Castore kits — let alone a sale date.

Dave Rooney
10 Posted 15/07/2024 at 19:55:38
I've said it before, I'd love to see Dele playing off Dom, think they'd link up brilliantly.
Christy Ring
11 Posted 15/07/2024 at 20:21:53
Dave #10,

A fully fit Dele would be a great addition, but having played his last game in February 2023, I'm not optimistic.

Looking forward to seeing Seamus and Co play Sligo Rovers on Friday. Glad to see Branthwaite and Calvert-Lewin in travelling party, we desperately need both players to stay, in my opinion.

Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 15/07/2024 at 20:51:24
Christy #11,

I seem to recall a number of players who have missed more than a year with an injury and then come back. Wasn't Shearer out that long?

And on the Euros, I heard someone talking about Gundogan overcoming a year-plus injury when he was younger.

Tom Bowers
13 Posted 15/07/2024 at 22:39:25
We all know Alli was an excellent player (once) but I doubt he can be again.

Only he can prove he is worthy of being kept by Everton in some capacity so we will have to see.

Everton had a lot of problems competing in midfield last season and that didn't help the offensive side of things.

Hopefully the money from the Onana deal and other savings can help boost that area of the park.

Paul Kossoff
14 Posted 15/07/2024 at 23:36:46
Jim 9. This is all I can find about the kit:

Castore Everton 24-25 Third Kit Leaked — No More Hummel
Alan J Thompson
15 Posted 16/07/2024 at 04:13:09
How many are making this trip and who hasn't gone?

I assume Onana, Pickford and Mykolenko haven't and the playing component is about 30 players?

Christine Foster
16 Posted 16/07/2024 at 06:37:28
I wonder if he is being paid for his attendance in the squad...

And it would be interesting to see who hasn't gone.

Derek Knox
17 Posted 16/07/2024 at 08:06:43
Contrary to other opinions, I believe Dele obviously has a moral conscience, away from the limelight, long-term illness and injury, and appreciation to Everton for looking after his fitness and well-being.

I honestly hope and pray that he can rediscover some, or all of the form, of which he became a regular England player, and the envy of many a team. I am fairly confident that he will be on some sort of retainer (basic wage) plus an incentive (goal and assist bonus) if such things still exist.

If he does, we have some player on our hands, and I for one hope he hits the ground running pre-season, signs some sort of contract, and stays with us!

Hugh Jenkins
18 Posted 16/07/2024 at 08:51:07
Derek (17) - hopefully he can be the "new" Peter Reid.
Laurie Hartley
19 Posted 16/07/2024 at 09:38:16
Derek,

A fit Dele will help any of our strikers score more goals… and he will chip in a few himself. I am in agreement with you and hope he gets a contract.

Jerome Shields
20 Posted 16/07/2024 at 09:57:27
I came across a report rumour that Thelwell has managed to do a revised deal with Spurs. Dyche must think there is potential in Dele Alli.

If he is fit to play, he has shown potential before. Skills tend to stay with a player.

James Marshall
21 Posted 16/07/2024 at 09:57:46
I don't get why so many people are writing Dele off — how could any one of us possibly have a clue about his injuries? I mean in detail? We're not party to that information, and if Everton thought there was no chance of him ever getting fit, or ever making it back to first-team level, he'd be gone by now.

It doesn't make any logical sense to keep him on unless they think he's going to be fit and healthy again, so where are all the experts on here getting their information from that tells them Dele is never going to be fit enough to play football again?

The fact he's still with us, and has gone on the pre-season trip, surely tells us he's getting back to fitness, no? I don't have any inside information but, from the outside, it all looks positive to me.

Tim Marchant
22 Posted 16/07/2024 at 10:05:03
I really want Dele to turn out and be the player we all remember him being.

He could still be a real asset, if he could be healthy and fit.

Biggest 'if' in footballing history…

Steve Cotton
23 Posted 16/07/2024 at 12:54:07
If he goes to Ireland and doesn't play at least 30 minutes, I will be pissed off…

Let's see the boy run!

Danny O’Neill
24 Posted 16/07/2024 at 13:36:13
I've just watched Sean Dyche's interview in Donegal.

I've been converted for a while, but he talks complete sense.

I can't wait to get back to Everton.

Shane Corcoran
25 Posted 16/07/2024 at 13:46:27
Is he in Donegal, Danny?

I heard it was Carton House.

Clive Rogers
26 Posted 16/07/2024 at 14:06:40
Mike, 12,

I don't remember Shearer being out for a year, so looked it up. He wasn't.

He played 441 Premier League games for Blackburn then Newcastle in 14 seasons, an average of 32 per season. His lowest was 17 in 1997-98.

Kevin Prytherch
27 Posted 16/07/2024 at 14:25:53
Shearer had 2 big injuries, both of which kept him out for most of the season. One with Blackburn and one with Newcastle.
Clive Rogers
28 Posted 16/07/2024 at 14:44:21
Kevin,

In the seasons he had those two injuries, he played 21 Premier League games for Blackburn when he had the knee injury, then 17 Premier League games for Newcastle in the season he did his cruciate.

Both a long way from a full year.

Ray Robinson
29 Posted 16/07/2024 at 15:18:42
I mentioned on another thread. How can Dele play for Everton in the friendlies if he hasn't yet signed a contract? Can he play as a non-contract player?

Paradoxically, if he doesn't play to prove his fitness, how can we offer him a contract? I'm not sure “pay as you play” contracts are legal at Premier League level.

Frank Crewe
30 Posted 16/07/2024 at 15:41:18
Dyche and his coaches are fitness experts. He sees Dele every day in training. If he thinks he can get a tune out of him, who are we to contradict him?

Dyche is the manager for a reason and, for the time he has spent at the club, we have no cause to question his decisions.

John Graham
31 Posted 16/07/2024 at 17:02:18
Surprised Stanley Mills hasn't been mentioned as being with the squad.

I expected him to make the step up this season.

Dave Rooney
32 Posted 16/07/2024 at 17:42:36
Stanley Mills suffered a bad injury whilst out on loan last season if I remember correctly. I assume he's not ready to take part yet.
John Graham
33 Posted 16/07/2024 at 18:17:36
Remember him getting injured mid season while at Oxford.
Must have been bad if he's still not recovered.
Let's hope that he's back soon.
Brendan McLaughlin
34 Posted 16/07/2024 at 18:55:58
Ray #29

I don't think the rules and regulations that govern player registration strictly apply to friendlies and "pay as you play" deals are permissable.

Mark Taylor
35 Posted 16/07/2024 at 19:09:42
If the contract is a very low retainer, a fraction of what he was paid, plus appearance fee money, then it's worth a punt. Anything more and we are repeating our mistakes.

James M says, how can we know about the situation with his injuries. Simply that he hasn't played for the best part of a year and a half and was often injured before that, including in failed loan spells.

I'm all for fairy stories, and a low cost punt on him is probably on balance worth the risk if Dyche thinks so, but I don't think it is an evidence free statement to say it is improbable he will play at a good EPL level ever again and/or stay fit. It is very sad given the talent he had and especially so given the appalling past life he revealed to us last year.

Ray Robinson
36 Posted 16/07/2024 at 19:12:00
Thanks for clarifying that Brendan. In all my time following the Blues, I can't remember Everton ever playing a non-contract player at first team level. It does seem an excellent way to determine whether it's worth pursuing a deal further.
Dave Abrahams
37 Posted 16/07/2024 at 19:25:03
Hasn'' t Dele gone as part of the training squad, it doesn't mean he will be playing against Sligo.
Kieran Kinsella
38 Posted 16/07/2024 at 19:45:06
Ray

Wouldn't it be the same premise as playing a trialist? Anton Peterlin (US player) played pre-season game under Moyes in 2010, never signed a contract as he was rubbish. Others including the late Dalian Atkinson and Franz Carr played for Everton reserves while on trial for us.

James Flynn
39 Posted 16/07/2024 at 20:13:03
If Dyche is going to put Dele thru the same regimen as he did with DCL, "You're not fit until your game-fit and you don't play until you are", then why not give Dele a shot.
Brendan Fox
40 Posted 16/07/2024 at 20:18:15
Mark Murphy
41 Posted 16/07/2024 at 20:20:33
I see we've sold Lewis Warrington to Orient.
I'm a bit sad about that!
Ray Robinson
42 Posted 16/07/2024 at 20:53:05
Kieran,

I don't dispute your facts — I just don't remember them! I know the Academy play trialists from time to time.

Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 16/07/2024 at 21:34:06
John (33),

Yes, Stanley Mills was injured in an FA Cup game in January and it was stated he would be out for the rest of the season and he would face a long battle throughout the summer to be fit for the start of next season.

Hopefully he will be fit and ready pretty soon and show that he is ready to resume his career and fight for a place in the senior team. Best of luck, Stanley.

Tommy Carter
44 Posted 16/07/2024 at 22:25:32
If you take 2020 as when he last put in some meaningful performances then it is 4.5 years since he has been able to put some consistent performances in at premier league level.

I'm afraid the psychological and physical reasons for his absence mean that his career has been and gone at the top level. If the club has provided an additional place on this trip to support the individual and human being then I have no problem with that.

I am certain Dyche would not have him there if he felt it was detrimental in any way. Perhaps having an influence like him around for prolonged periods on a trip away with younger players may be beneficial to them.

Michael Kenrick
45 Posted 16/07/2024 at 22:40:42
Mark @41,

"I see we've sold Lewis Warrington to Leyton Orient."

Not sold. We actually released him back in June, after Dyche et al said lots of nice things about him. But we just let his contract expire after 15 years at the club.

He's 21 and past that threshold age Robert Tressell talks about where they need to be part of the action or out on their bikes.

Leyton Orient have picked him up as a free agent, and given him a 2-year contract in League One. Which again is exactly what Robert says happens to academy players like him who don't make the extremely tough Premier League grade.

Mark Murphy
46 Posted 16/07/2024 at 23:04:57
Ah thanks, Michael.

I thought it sounded familiar. A mate of mine who supports the Orient texted me the link today.

Sounds like Lewis is a massive Blue and signed off with “see you in the stands”.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
47 Posted 16/07/2024 at 23:12:03
Michael - and people on here were hoping we would keep Lewis so he could break into the 1st team this season. That he is with a team that finished mid-table in League One last season, having been promoted the season before.

I hope Lewis makes a 10+ year career in professional football. Average salary for a League One player is around £150k a year. That puts them in 45% Income Tax bracket, the highest in the country. He should earn around £1,5M in his career. A Championship player will earn 3 times as much.

Jack Convery
48 Posted 17/07/2024 at 02:24:59
Can any of our US cousins let me know how good is Bongokuhle Hiongwane who plays for Minnesota?

His stats are interesting and on the up. RW/LW and South African International. On a free at present. Cheers.

Kieran Kinsella
49 Posted 17/07/2024 at 02:29:42
Jack,

That would be a question for my mate Jonathan Oppenheimer, who lives a stone's throw from their stadium, if he's reading.

Jack Convery
50 Posted 17/07/2024 at 02:58:24
Keiran ta.

Let's hope he is. Looks like a player on the up.

Mike Gaynes
51 Posted 17/07/2024 at 03:09:04
Jack, I've seen a bit of him... Inchy signed him for Minnesota. Not blindingly fast, but an opportunistic scorer for a really bad team.

But I looked up his contract status and he's not on a free -- signed through the end of the year and the club has a one-year option.

Jack Convery
52 Posted 17/07/2024 at 03:18:00
Mike - thanks for the info. He came up as out of contract in 2024. I assumed this summer but as you say he's still under contract, at least until 31 December 2024. His stats are good and on an upward curve to coin a phrase.

Thanks again and good luck with that election. What a choice, a failing brain and no brain to speak of. We the people deserve better.

Christine Foster
53 Posted 17/07/2024 at 04:08:58
Just been watching the training session of the squad in Ireland.

No sign of Dele, one assumes he will take no part in the game, it's just an "integration exercise?"

Jim Bennings
54 Posted 17/07/2024 at 06:35:09
Didn't really think Dele would take part to be honest.

We've had too many of these players in the past that simply never kick a ball for the club yet we are willing somehow to be patient.

It's not even about Dele getting back to where he was 7 years years ago, just getting fit would be some sort of bonus. and actually staying fit and not breaking down again and again.

I feel for him I do but we can't just be a sentimental rest home.

Sam Hoare
55 Posted 17/07/2024 at 07:39:20
Maybe Dele and Beto will be the heroes for us this season?

Two players largely written off by a lot of the fanbase?!

Steve Shave
56 Posted 17/07/2024 at 08:08:24
Sam that would be great wouldn't it? Beto has the physical attributes to come good and looked a decent striker in Italy. Second season in the PL he has to step it up and iron out some of the flaws in his game but I like his endeavour and spirit.

Dele is more of a romantic dream, its unlikely but hey who knows? I for one will cheer loudly for him if he ever pulls on the shirt again, what a comeback that could be.

We love an underdog with a backstory. Shame he wasn't more of an 8 as we have Illman and Doucs in the 10 position to compete with.

Still think we need to sign another CM (as well as Dele on low wages) and a winger. I'm in the "keep Patterson" camp. Back up LB needed too.

Joe Hurst
57 Posted 17/07/2024 at 08:54:17
Why has Dele Alli got long sleeves and gloves in Ireland?

Is he really that nesh?

Sam Hoare
58 Posted 17/07/2024 at 10:33:02
Steve,

I was only being semi serious but I do think that Beto could surprise some of his many critics this season.

Alli as you say is more of a fairytale and I'd be surprised to see him play a significant role but stranger things have happened.

Martin Berry
59 Posted 17/07/2024 at 17:23:49
I am sure Dele still has the ability and now seems to have a re focused desire with the World Cup 2026 being the driver. He looks to have the physique to get fit quickly, the problem being his injury record, especially with regards to the hamstrings.

Remember Calvert-Lewin was nursed back by Sean examining everything in his lifestyle to get him fit, maybe he can do the same with Dele?

Dont forget that Peter Reid had suffered two broken legs before he signed for Everton so there is always hope that we may get a bargain.

Beto intrigues me now that he is in the second season, its always tough adapting to the Premier League. People forget even Drogba only scored 10 league goals in his first season.

Beto did well in Italy in a poor team and deserves another season before we can fully judge him so I hope the faithful get behind the lad this season.

Robert Tressell
60 Posted 17/07/2024 at 18:22:13
Just on Beto — in relative terms, he was playing for a better club in Italy.

The comparison to Drogba is also bit optimistic. Drogba was bought in 2003 for more than we paid for Beto in 2023.

He scored 32 goals in 55 games for Marseille the season before he joined Chelsea (inc 5 in 6 in the Champions League). Beto hit 10 in 34 for Udinese the season before he joined us.

Beto is probably an 8- to 12-goal-a-season striker in the Premier League. He will be a handful too by the way, just unlikely to be very prolific.

Ian Bennett
61 Posted 17/07/2024 at 18:40:01
Drogba had a very good season at Marseille and was a real handful in Europe scoring 11 goals.

Beto linked with Bologna, Mykolenko to Napoli.

Holgate and Keane linked with Blackpool if the sunny weather holds and there's plenty of tourists fancy a ride on the beach...

Ciarán McGlone
62 Posted 18/07/2024 at 16:48:57
Heading down to Sligo tomorrow.

Hopefully this re-ignites the spark which has taken a real hammering over the last 2 years..


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