Season › 2024-25 › News West Ham United vs Everton Lyndon Lloyd 07/11/2024 190comments | Jump to last Match Preview Having missed the defeat to Southampton, Abdoulaye Doucouré remains a fitness doubt for this weekend Abdoulaye Doucouré will be given every chance to prove he is fit enough to feature in some capacity when Everton travel to the London Stadium this weekend to face fellow strugglers West Ham. The Frenchman missed the defeat at Southampton last Saturday because of injury and it was initially feared that he might be sidelined for a number of weeks. However, Sean Dyche explained in his press conference ahead of the trip to the Capital that the problem "has settled down" and that Doucouré "has a chance" of being involved as the Toffees look to bounce back from a terrible result at St Mary's that ended their five-game unbeaten run. Iliman Ndiaye, who was withdrawn from the action on the south coast after picking up an early knock and soldiering on well into the second half, is in a similar boat, with Dyche admitting that he was hopeful on the Senegal international as well but the expectation is that he will play. Article continues below video content Dwight McNeil, however, has re-emerged as a concern if a report by The Athletic is true. Dyche did not mention the former Burnley man in his presser but it appears as though he is still dealing with the knee injury he sustained in the game against Fulham a fortnight ago. Seamus Coleman has not been selected in recent matches after returning from his own fitness issues but Dyche explained that the Club captain has suffered a relapse with a minor hamstring strain that will keep him out of Saturday's clash with the Hammers and the Republic of Ireland's upcoming internationals this month. Meanwhile, Armando Broja continues to make progress towards finally being available following his loan move from Chelsea. The forward has been involved in training with the senior players for the first time this week, partaking in light drills and ball work as the Club's medical staff build towards contact training and, eventually, practice matches at Finch Farm. With Everton having failed to convince in any of the recent games against Newcastle, Fulham and Saints, fixtures that yielded just two points from a possible nine, there have been calls for Jarrad Branthwaite to be reinstated to the starting XI having been left on the bench for the last three. Michael Keane has retained his place and performed well on the whole but there is growing restlessness among many supporters that Dyche is leaving one of his best players on the sidelines. The manager explained his reasoning on his press conference, alluding to the recent form of Keane and James Tarkowski and the seriousness of the injury that necessitated Branthwaite undergoing surgery over the summer but the indications from inside the Club are that the young defender is fully fit and raring to go. Whether Dyche now relents and restores him to the line-up remains to be seen but the end of the mini unbeaten run provides him with the ideal pretext. Meanwhile, Dominic Calvert-Lewin’s indifferent form and the impact Beto has bene making off the bench could prompt a change up front from Dyche. The Portuguese scored the crucial late equaliser against Fulham while against Southampton he rattled the crossbar with a header, scored a superbly-taken but fractionally offside goal and drew a foul from Jan Bednarek that, on another day, might have yielded a red card. Beto hasn’t always looked suited to the lone striker role when starting games but many feel he has more that earned his chance at proving he can cut it, particularly against West Ham who currently hold the longest sequence of Premier League home games where they have conceded at least once. This is a huge game for the Hammers as well, with their head coach, Julen Lopetegui under pressure and increasingly unpopular with a record of just three wins from 10 to start his reign as David Moyes’s replacement in East London. West Ham were soundly beaten last weekend by high-flyers Nottingham Forest and were thrashed by Tottenham 4-1 three weeks ago but at home they have been more convincing in recent weeks, beating Ipswich comfortably and then putting the final nail in Erik Ten Hag’s proverbial coffin with a 2-1 win over Manchester United. Before that, they had been defeated on their own patch by Aston Villa, Manchester City and Chelsea, opposition that Lopetegui might point to as being very tough. The Spaniard has selection problems for the visit of the Blues this weekend, though, with both star man Mohamed Kudus and key midfield man Edson Alvarez suspended and summer signing Niclas Fullkrug still out injured. Given the poverty of the Londoners’ form, this should be a game that Everton go into looking to impose themselves in a way they failed to do last weekend at St Mary’s. There is a fragility about Lopetegui’s side and the home fans’ frustration with the manager is there to be exploited, particularly if the Blues can capitalise on the Hammer’s propensity to concede early goals. Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday 9 November, 2024Referee: Stuart AttwellVAR: Darren EnglandLast Time: West Ham United 0 - 1 Everton Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Young, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Mangala, Gueye, Lindstrøm, Ndiaye, McNeil, Beto Live Forum Reader Comments (190) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Christy Ring 1 Posted 07/11/2024 at 14:41:24 I watched the press conference, he had me in riddles, never heard so much waffle since Martinez!We have 4 good centre-backs. 4 good-strikers? He said we were playing the long ball to Calvert-Lewin, which Ancelotti told him was the same as him? He didn't mention Richarlison and James provided a lot more crosses and Dom didn't have to chase every ball. He mentioned Branthwaite's original injury, but no reason why he hasn't being picked now? Ray Robinson 2 Posted 07/11/2024 at 18:43:06 Anyone got a spare for the West Ham match, please? I will be in London on Saturday, so could meet at the ground, if necessary. Text or phone Ray on 077950 14152. Thanks Rob Halligan 3 Posted 07/11/2024 at 19:19:02 The BBC reporting that a “fit again Seamus Coleman” returns to the Ireland squad for the upcoming international break, while Dyche says he will miss the Ireland games due to a hamstring injury. So who's right? You'd think Dyche is right and Seamus will be withdrawn from the Ireland squad. Edward Rogers 4 Posted 07/11/2024 at 19:27:16 More importantly, is Jarrad fully fit and available for selection... from the start!! Danny O'Neill 5 Posted 07/11/2024 at 20:08:03 Well it's time again to start getting into match day mode. As always, I go into every match thinking we can get a result.I hope the players have the same faith as the supporters. Christy Ring 6 Posted 07/11/2024 at 20:50:27 Listening to Dyche today gives me little confidence that Branthwaite will be in the line-up on Saturday. He said Keane and Tarkowski played well last week. So forget that Branthwaite is left-sided, faster, brings the ball out of defence, gives the midfield a rollicking if they pass the ball back to Pickford, and Mykolenko is a lot more confident beside him, and has the defence playing further forward, instead of playing deep, which Keane and Tarkowski do, because of lack of pace… but none of these things matter! Is he for real? He also said today Calvert-Lewin is playing the same role as he did under Ancelotti, that's why they kick the long ball? Did he not remember he had Richarlison and James providing the ammunition? Dale Self 7 Posted 07/11/2024 at 20:59:05 And maybe forget that Branthwaite is coming back from an injury setback caused by his last start? Mark Bellis 8 Posted 07/11/2024 at 21:26:32 I see Harwood-Bellis has been picked today for the England squad. Branthwaite would surely have been picked ahead of him had he played in the last few games. How must he be feeling? Even less chance of keeping him when the January window opens. Paul Birmingham 9 Posted 07/11/2024 at 21:29:08 Hopefully the squad is in positive mood. There's a few rumours doing the rounds… who knows, but hopefully Branthwaite starts this Saturday.This for me is a 6-pointer, and hopefully Everton will turn up take their chances and win. Bobby Mallon 10 Posted 07/11/2024 at 21:32:31 If he doesn't play Branthwaite, then the fans at the game need to let him know. Once again, we are going to a team with a manager under pressure and you know what that means… Hopefully all their players have scored within the last 10 games! 😂 Christy Ring 11 Posted 07/11/2024 at 21:44:46 Dale #7, I'm not buying that. Dyche is trying to cover his selection of Keane. He said Branthwaite was fit 2 weeks ago, and fully training since then, but wasn't picked because the two boys were playing well. McNeil went off injured against Fulham, didn't train until the following Thursday, and started against Southampton? Peter Moore 12 Posted 07/11/2024 at 21:53:22 I also watched the interview, in full. Our manager explained, to my ears, very clearly, that Jarrad had a minor operation but has broken down 3 times since with various issues as he nears a comeback. I paraphrase, but words to that effect. Sean O'Hanlon 13 Posted 07/11/2024 at 21:55:41 So Doucouré remains a doubt? As far as I'm concerned, his ability, without doubt, has been rubbish this season. Dale Self 14 Posted 07/11/2024 at 22:04:00 Christy,Stop making crap up. It is ridiculous. Neil Lawson 15 Posted 07/11/2024 at 22:52:01 Dale 14. Struggling to understand your logic and the inappropriate criticism of Christy. Not sure just what " she has made up". From my perspective, Branthwaite has been fit to be on the bench, ergo he is fit to play. Not playing him is a crime and Dyche is just spuddling. McNeil was selected on the back of an injury and it looks like Doucoure will play ( or more properly, make up the numbers) despite his injury. If Christy or others wish to question the veracity of our manager for what they see as valid reason, then they are entitled to do so. I'm with them. Dale Self 16 Posted 08/11/2024 at 01:18:50 Neil, it is stated that she doesn't buy what Peter confirmed was the official explanation. To believe Dyche relied on Keane solely out of favoritism is preposterous. Keane was a huge risk given his form just before the recent chances to start. Dyche's position is much more logical and is stated outright as the reason for Keane's selection. Branthwaite is only fit enough to be eased back into fitness for a full match. Also, we don't have a decent substitute for McNeil that won't drastically change the attack or escape from our third. I will give you the right to call it 'spuddling'. Christy can believe what she wishes. Please respect my right to call both of those unconvincing speculation in my own colourful way. Lyndon Lloyd 17 Posted 08/11/2024 at 04:57:22 My interpretation is that when pressed on the issue of Branthwaite in the press conference, he explained that JB had routine hernia surgery over the summer, had complications that initially delayed his return, was (in SD's opinion) rushed back a little early against Palace and suffered a minor set-back.Dyche's initial argument in the presser was that Keane had been selected over Branthwaite due to form and he didn't disabuse the questioner of that notion when he went on about how he, as a player, would have expected to keep his place if he was playing well. That suggests to me — and this is supported by reports from those closer to the situation — that Branthwaite has been fully fit since Ipswich but the manager has rewarded Keane for his recent form. As I infer above, I think the fact that we lost at Southampton gives SD the pretext to restore Branthwaite to the starting XI, even if Keane wasn't directly at fault. He should use it, IMO. Mike Gaynes 18 Posted 08/11/2024 at 06:36:14 Keane, Keane, Keane... ad nauseum.Am I the only one here who thinks that over the past few games Keane has been playing the best football of his time at Everton? And that the guy Jarrad should replace in the lineup is the one who ISN'T playing well right now?(Yeah, Christy, that would be Tarks.)And just as an aside, does anybody else think Myko needs to be sat for a game or two? He's making really bad mistakes right now. Young could switch over and Patterson could play right back. Not much to lose right now. Lyndon Lloyd 19 Posted 08/11/2024 at 06:44:04 Mike (18), we discussed as much on the podcast this week re Tarkowski arguably being in worse form (I argued he's team captain and integral to our attacking set-pieces so Dyche won't drop him) and the merits of dropping Mykolenko in favour of Young switching sides.I don't know whether Keane is playing his best football since he joined us (he's done fine in a middling team without being exceptional) but Keane playing his best still isn't as good as Branthwaite, IMO. And the JB/Tarky partnership is proven over the course of a season.In an ideal world, we'd be building a team around Branthwaite. Keane is 32 next year and out the door in a few months. As such, I have no loyalty towards him. You play your best players, end of. Derek Knox 20 Posted 08/11/2024 at 07:10:41 Don't know what the concerns surrounding Doucoure's availability are for. To me he brings nothing to the team apart from a bit of running like Harrison, who also rarely produces anything.Is it because of 'that goal' he scored to ensure our Premiership safety eighteen months ago, that is part of his job isn't it ?Hoping as always for a win, but please get the team selection, subs and tactics right. West Ham are going through a bad spell themselves, like Southampton, and may be vulnerable, but badly need the points. Oh wait a minute ! Nigel Scowen 21 Posted 08/11/2024 at 07:11:35 Christy@11 Neil @15Absolutely spot on.He knows he messed up and hes now trying to cover his tracks.How gullible are you Dale! Nigel Scowen 22 Posted 08/11/2024 at 07:27:39 Dont disagree with your predicted line up Lyndon, but if it were me and Doucoure was fit then I would play him in a three man midfield alongside Gana and Mangala.Nidaiye just behind Beto and DCl.Defence the same. Put them under pressure from the start. Andrew Merrick 23 Posted 08/11/2024 at 07:39:00 Oh boy, the gossip now says Everton can't afford to offer Jarrard a new contract...hoping this us media crap Nigel Scowen 24 Posted 08/11/2024 at 07:42:35 Andrew@23 In reality how can that possibly be anything more than tired speculation mate when we have potential new owners on the horizon. Danny O'Neill 25 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:06:53 Mike, Lyndon,Credit where due, Keane has played very well in the past few matches.If Branthwaite is fit, he has to play.If anyone has to make way, it probably has to be Tarkowski. I'm sad to say that, as I've been a big fan, but, he's just not been on his game of late, and I suspect he's been carrying an injury. Rob Dolby 26 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:14:50 It will be a tough game tomorrow, they will be desperate for a win as they have been massively underperforming with the squad they have.If fit I would start JB instead of Keane, harsh on Keane but partnerships are massive at CB.Midfield is an issue, Ndiaye, Mangala and gana will play, think it's a toss up between Harrison and Lindstrom with McNeil more advanced and Beto up top.Tactics, sit deep let them have possession and hope to hit them on the break. PickfordYoung tarks JB mykoLindstrom Gana mangala NdiayeMcNeilBetoCoyb. Danny O'Neill 27 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:19:31 In other news, I've just received a "Top Fan Badge" from the Everton Heritage Society.As always, I'm humbled and don't consider myself any more an Evertonian than all of you.Let's get to West Ham and get behind the team. Danny Baily 28 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:23:23 If DCL is fit then surely he starts? I'd go with JB over Keane if he's fully fit. Keep it tight and there's a chance we can nick something. Liam Mogan 29 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:23:23 Games JB has started - 1. Games won 1.Games MK has started - 10. Games won 1.Lyndon sums it up perfectly;'I don't know whether Keane is playing his best football since he joined us (he's done fine in a middling team without being exceptional) but Keane playing his best still isn't as good as Branthwaite, IMO. And the JB/Tarky partnership is proven over the course of a season' Neil Lawson 30 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:25:40 Good morning. I have just read the various comments especially those of Dale and Lyndon after my post.All sensibly written and argued. No "made up crap" 😁Looking forward to 2pm tomorrow when the team is announced. It will be interesting as will the comments that follow. Eric Myles 31 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:35:54 Bobby #10, their goalie hasn't ! Peter Mills 32 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:48:02 Just a harmless, throwaway line in Lyndons preview:- “……particularly against West Ham who currently hold the longest sequence of Premier League home games where they have conceded at least once”. Nigel Scowen 33 Posted 08/11/2024 at 08:56:39 Rob@26‘Tactics, sit deep let them have possession and hope to hit them on the breakBrilliant Rob, spoken like a true Dycherite, particularly like the ‘hope thrown in there. Danny O'Neill 34 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:00:06 I wish I could analyse that type of detail Peter. Respect!!I try to avoid predictions, but if Tarkowski and Branthwaite are fit, play them. They struck up a partnership that worked well. And Tarkowski is our de-facto captain. But as I've said, my concern is that I don't think Tarkowski is fully fit. Branthwaite will be; when the body is young, you can withstand a lot more than when the old injuries come back to shout at you.Harsh on Keane, but the manager has to pick the best team with what he has available.Talking to a very close West Ham supporting friend last night, based in Texas, he is very concerned about playing us. We have a chance here if we go in with confidence. Rob Halligan 35 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:10:05 Andrew # 23 and Nigel # 24…………I read that same rumour last night, and noticed it was the Daily Fail who were spreading the rumour, the same rag who were touting for JBs move to man united all last summer. I too, Nigel, thought how can we possibly not afford to offer him a pay rise when we will soon have an owner with several billions in the bank? The Daily Fail really do make shit up as they go along. Dave Williams 36 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:14:25 We mustnt sit back and allow them to play. Hit them with aggression and tempo- when we sit back we allow the opposition to score. Put them under pressure with a fired up bunch of players rather than the half hearted stuff we have put out so often.JB must play and Id move McNeil wide so Iliman can get closer to DCL. Mangala to play rather than Doucoure. Jerome Shields 37 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:32:31 Tarkowski by his own admission is carrying a injury and there has been no reports that he has fully recovered.He does not get forward to provide the threat he once did.It seems that Dyche, not openly, is concerned about his Centre back pairing.Keane plays ok with Tarks who maintains the defensive line with him. but the problem is that it will always be too deep on occasions.Playing Branthwaite with Keane would upset the balance for Keane, since Branthwaite will instinctively push up when needed as the good defender he is.Keane then would be exposed and errors would be the result.Playing Branthwaite with Tarks would lose the Full back threat that Keane provides when attacking set peices.On top of that you have Dyche who wants deep defending and clearing of the lines.Keane is capable of providing a good through ball pass.Dyche does not wants his defenders getting forward and he certainly does not want them overlapping.That's is why I think that Keane and Tarks will start.Brantbwaite will come on as a Sub earlier, like Beto came on against Southampton;when the opposition had ebbed out of the game. Doucoure will play for his penalty box threat, if fit.Calvert Lewin to start for shape.Eddie Dunn got Dyche so right on a previous thread. Ian Riley 38 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:44:26 Time DCL and the midfielders start scoring. Defence choices is all good and well but we must take our chances tomorrow. Bring home 3 lovely points lads!!! Safe journey all. Colin Crooks 39 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:50:23 Nigel 21Not sure why you think you are in a position to call Dale gullible. He seems to have a far better grasp of the situation than you.Dyche has a long history of nursing players back from re-occurring injury. When other managers were prepared to ruin DCL's career. Dyche bit the bullet and sent him away to be fixed. To compare the reoccurring nature of Branthwaites injury to the short term one McNeil had, is frankly ridiculous.I've seen Christy peddle this idea that Dyche actually preferred Keane at least two dozen times since saturday. Perhaps as you agree with him, you can explain why JB was straight back in as soon as the medical staff gave him the all clear earlier in the season ? Or why JB kept his place for the rest of the entire season when he shone after getting an early chance last season. If Dyche ( The guy responsible for the bigger picture ) thinks the time is right. Branthwaite WILL play tomorrow. Dale is going on known facts. You (and Christy) are basing your argument solely on a desire to disbelieve a manager you clearly don't like. Rob Dolby 40 Posted 08/11/2024 at 09:53:15 Nigel 33 Do you actually watch football or just follow the ball around like a lapdogSporting gave City a pasting with their tactics guess what they where?Brentford played the same way against Fulham and lost with 2 injury time goals playing the same tactics. Both Milan teams got wins in the champions league this week, you will never guess what tactics they used Name calling is all well and good but back it up with something with a bit more substance. Mal van Schaick 41 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:04:09 Just need to look at who is refereeing and VAR official, to see where this game might go?There definitely appears to be differing views on here regarding Dyche, his comments and variable team selection, and Dyche has ‘discombobulated me with his chatter.We need at least a point, preferably all three points any way, anyhow. Andrew Grey 42 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:19:22 Rob - 35The Saudi's in the North East have hundreds of billions in the bank but can't spend it due to the rules.We would be the same. Nigel Scowen 43 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:23:20 Rob@40‘Do you actually watch football or just follow the ball around like a lapdog. What does that even mean Rob? maybe the only comment that is valid is yours because you watch a lot of football.Im not going to be a Dyche apologist blindly supporting the Manager, without question, especially when the evidence points to the contrary. Sporting and both Milans have excellent Managers who no doubt inspire their teams to great things such as playing with confidence as opposed to sit deep and hope for the best against a team on its knees. Totally inspiring stuff Rob.Its actually me saying that team is better and can adapt to suit different scenarios, given the chance. It is you suggesting that they cant, with the usual hoof it up to DCL no doubt.Also, I think you will find its ‘were not ‘where. If you are going to try to be patronising then get it right.Brentford lost so not sure what point you are even making there, as usual.I believe calling someone a lap dog is name calling, isnt it. Danny O'Neill 44 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:27:02 Dycherite, there's a new phrase.I, like many question the tactics.Rob@40, it must be the player in me and the former youth team coach, but I always looking at where the ball is going next, not necessarily who is on the ball. I always look for the space and runners. Maybe that's just me?Well looking forward to a catch up tomorrow at the Spoons near Mile End. I might have a swift one in the Blind Beggar first.Come on Everton. People are paying hard earned money and time for this. As the great one said, open the windows and don't let them down. Mark Murphy 45 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:31:09 “Badges? We don need no steenkin badges”!Have a great day out Danny and “the regiment - I wish I was there”…But 25 years of marriage is on the line and Im a shit cook… so Ill be watching from behind the ironing board….. 🫣I hope Dyche gets it right and that this team clicks at long last. I really think they are better than the points earned show.UTFT Nigel Scowen 46 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:35:39 Colin@39Who are you mate, Dales PA or something? I wasnt aware when I signed up to ToffeeWeb that certain people were beyond reproach.I felt I was in a position to call Dale gullible when he referred to another posters comments as ‘ Stop making crap up. It is ridiculous. You are right though I dont like Dyche and am disliking him more with each press conference.You can bet youre bottom dollar that he will pick Branthwaite tomorrow, even Dyche isnt that soft. Kevin Molloy 47 Posted 08/11/2024 at 10:57:28 SD is doing something which always drove me crazy when Moyes did it. He's not talking to the fans, in his statements, he's talking to a wider audience. He had a really easy opportunity to say 'with new owners taking over, I imagine any sales we make would be only if we want to make them'. Instead, he speculates that we'll still be forced to sell our star player that he's put Michael Keane in instead of. I think at this point the relationship between manager and fans is pretty much dead. He's not showing any regard either for fans or the new regime. He speaks about his employer as if he's working at a madhouse. No doubt that is true, but he's being paid major dollars to present the club in a favourable light. It's all very galling, and somewhat of a smokescreen to deflect from the fact that for the last couple of weeks he's kept our best player on the bench and played Michael Keane instead, and we've dropped five points along the way. John Hall 48 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:06:06 Keep Keane and Beto on the bench. they can come on as super striking subs on 70 mins David McMullen 49 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:06:13 Dyche's press conferences. They're a hard watch. I haven't watched yesterdays I think I'll leave it. Tomorrow can go either way I think we can beat them I think we can get one of them results. On the flip side it can be every bit as it was v Southampton. It's the flip of a coin. Oh we might get a draw. There. All outcomes covered. I'm bored with his team selections etc Dyche does what Dyche does. We've seen it often enough now to know he's clearly not arsed. Not even phased. As such he will live and die by his decisions. And the results. Fred Quick 50 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:07:47 Sean Dyche probably gives a truthful, but perhaps at this point in time, an unhelpful answer when responding to questions about whether Everton would be able to resist offers for players in January.Asked whether he was under the impression new ownership could change the position on bigger offers, he said: "I haven't met them, I haven't spoken to them, I don't know any of their plans, their thoughts or feelings about the club at this time or the finances. So that would clearly be a new decision."The current decision would be that it is likely that if somebody bid enough money for any player… any player at this football club as you have seen over the last couple of windows, if someone offers enough money then they go. Alex Iwobi was like that a day or so before the deadline. I didn't want to lose Alex but they said: 'Look, this is a deal we've got to do.' I said 'OK' and that's the way it goes, so therefore I better mould it towards the next lot of players and how many I can get in and use." — Source: Liverpool Echo Nigel Scowen 51 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:10:48 Andrew@42Lots of big earners will be leaving in the summer Andrew, that should give us scope to increase Branthwaites wages. Conor McCourt 52 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:15:12 Top medical advisor; Sean, bad news, Jarrad, injury setbackSean; Shit, what's the advice?Top medical advisor;88th minute, cold,, quick 5 mins intensity, then cold again!!Sean; okay you're the expert. Guess I'll just have to...if I really really have to..play my lovely little Mikey.wikeyTop medical advisor;recovery, crucial, can't fuck this up!Sean; no, no no. I'm listening.Top medical advisor;. Mikey up top, we will need to bang one in!!Sean;Deffo, Deffo, anything...we have to look after Jarrad. If it helps JarradFriday morning after hearing Dyche's press conference Thelwell and Branthwaite march into Sean Dyche's office apoplectic;Thelwell;Sean I have 70million riding on this guy in January what the fuck is going on?Jarrad; yes boss I wanna go to Man Utd what's wrong with me? Is it serious?Sean;Calm down everyone, the medical team has told me you've trained all week brilliantly and you'll be ready for 96 minutes against West HamJarrad; Boss I was away with my girlfriend this week on our anniversary..don't you remember?Sean;Damn I forgot. Ah don't worry your still good to goJarrad;Thanks boss I'm so happy, I will be able to play at the theatre of dreams after all.Sean; Ahh the theatre of dreams, can't believe they appointed Amorim, At this point Sean goes into a day dream of his ownJarrad; boss boss bossSean;Ahhh...You know I could have kept them up.Jarrad;The injury, the injury. Do you think it's likely to return in the future?Sean;Sorry sorry I was miles away njury, what injury? Oh yeah the injury..I'll let you know; we will see how little Mikey Wikey plays. Thelwell;Sean let's get this deal done. Jarrad off you go!!Jarrad leaves the roomSean; yes asap.. do it now before the window. I want that bastard gone. I don't want to have to get little Mikey wikey one of this blankets and water bottles on the bench cos it's getting cold now and we don't want little Mikey's toes freezing.Thelwell;Don't worry he's gone! Jim Wilson 53 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:34:17 This is a good opportunity to make up for last week. Take the game to West Ham and take advantage of their low confidence.All about attitude which comes from the manager.Playing your stromgerst 11 is essential, we need as many points as possible before we get to Christmas.We cannot rely on pinching a goal, because like last week, give these dodgy officials a glimmer of a reason and they will gladly disallow our goal.I am hoping the Mangala Gueye centre midfield partnership will grow into a very strong influence on the team. Colin Callaghan 54 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:36:31 Nigel,So Dale is gullible for not believing Christy's Crap?? Ernie Baywood 55 Posted 08/11/2024 at 11:58:24 Should be another cracking game. Come on you Blues. Neil Lawson 56 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:00:15 Not great when there ( or is it they're) are arguments about grammar ( or is it Grandma). We need to sack the Manager, not because he is nowhere near up to the job, but because he says " sat back" when it should be sitting or "stood up " when it should be standing. ( Plus the other tosh he talks). May be better if less of us on this site ( fewer) have to resort to unnecessary jibes to make what may otherwise be a valid comment. Paul Hewitt 57 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:01:06 "Another cracking game". When was the first one? Derek Knox 58 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:22:48 Nice one, PH!This game could be called a 'Sack Race' — a humiliating loss could result in either one's departure. However, as mentioned before, who pulls the trigger on Dyche? Christy Ring 59 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:32:26 Dale #16, I don't understand how you're allowed come on and call me a "She", who the fuck do you think you are?Colin #39, You're talking about me peddling the argument about Keane, and Dale is talking 'Facts'. Well if you read Lyndon's comment on 17, and he has a lot more inside knowledge than your pal Dale, Branthwaite has been fully fit since the Ipswich game. Dyche has said it himself if you take off your tinted glasses. He said last week, he wouldn't drop his two centre-backs because they were playing well. Personally, I believe we wouldn't be still in the Premier League only for Dyche, and I don't dislike him, but some of his decisions this season, especially not bringing back Branthwaite, are baffling. He also said yesterday 'Branthwaite has only played one season in the Premier League' … What's he trying to say? Nigel Scowen 60 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:35:04 Colin @54,No, he's gullible because he believes Dyche. Kirk McArdle 61 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:47:39 Time to have a proper reset in tactics and formation.PickfordO'Brien - Tarkowski - BranthwaiteHarrison - Gana - Mangala - McNeilBeto - NdiayeCalvert-Lewin3-4-2-1Harrison and McNeil as defensive wingers and a closer Beto and Ndiaye to Calvert-Lewin to provide better support.Dyche obviously has no faith in Patterson and IMO Young and Mykolenko offer us nothing from full-back positions apart from dreadful decisions, poor support going forwards, and potential red cards.Can we pray for a lightbulb moment from Sean Dyche? Danny O'Neill 62 Posted 08/11/2024 at 12:56:23 It's McNeil. I don't play for Everton unfortunately!!Derek, I am pretty sure, although without knowledge, that having bankrolled the club, and about to take over, The Friedkin Group will have influence on any decisions.For now, it's all about those players on the pitch at the London Stadium tomorrow. Ian Jones 63 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:09:23 Christy, I picked up on Dyche's comment about Branthwaite only having had one Premier League season. He does frustrate me with some of his comments about players not necessarily being Premier League ready. They"ll only be ready if you give players a chance and if there is not much riding on the outcome of the games. What Dyche forgot to mention is that he also had a full season behind him in Holland, a reasonable level. Mark Murphy 64 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:10:44 Nigel @ 46 ,I bet you a virtual pint of Guinness that he doesn't! Mark Murphy 65 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:20:10 Christy, chill.In Dale's defence, I wasn't sure either. It's the name – Christy - it's not so clearly gender specific is it?Nothing wrong with it, it's a fine Irish name; but there is also, for example, the lovely Christy Turlington... I don't think Dale was taking the piss. Christy Ring 66 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:22:24 Colin #54, What part of "Branthwaite is fully fit" is crap? It's a fact, Dyche is trying to justify leaving him on the bench because the journalists at the press conference, and the fans are questioning him about it now. He's actually tripping himself up, because after the minor groin operation, he was due back in pre-season, it was then, when he had a relapse. He came back against Palace, and he injured his thigh in training, nothing to do with the original injury, and fit since the Ipswich game. John Hall 67 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:25:49 So we fired Ronald Koeman after 9 games and 8 points (according to the BBC) and we now have Sean Dyche with 10 games and 9 points but no one to sack him… so we just carry on. Is this a good situation? Nigel Scowen 68 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:30:35 Mark @64You're on mate, he's stubborn but surely not…..!Didn't he even try to throw his sports science colleagues under the bus by saying something along the lines (I paraphrase, I apologise, but I can't watch it again)."Last time I thought it was too early for him to come back but we went with the majority view and threw him back in and lo and behold he got injured." Brilliant, Dr Dyche – another fantastic diagnosis, beefing yourself up with hindsight, again. You're the manager, aren't you? Could you imagine Clough or Ferguson going with the majority view…?So what was wrong with him saying he was injured last week? He does it all the time with other players. All I heard was that Keane and Tarkowski deserved to keep their places. Nigel Scowen 69 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:32:49 You've been selected, Danny, do you want the job or not? £130k is the going rate I believe. Jimmy Carr 70 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:46:50 Knickers appear to be getting rather twisted regarding Brainthwaite! Thing is, he's a defender and, from where I'm sitting, our attacking play – or rather, lack of it – is our biggest issue at the moment. Of course, he's a better player than Keane, but Keane's playing okay, we're not conceding loads of goals. Not really sure what the big issue is. Though I'd definitely have Jarrad in my starting eleven. We're over 24 hours away from kick-off and the Dyche haters are already waiting to go ballistic about his team selection. Keep your powder dry folks. Mark Murphy 71 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:48:04 Totally with you, Nigel, but he's as stubborn as a stubborn mule from stubborn stables in stubbonshire!It'll be worth the virtual (or real if you're ever at a match I'm at) pint if my betting prediction follows the same pattern as it has for most of my adult life. Mark Murphy 72 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:52:22 Thinking on….Dale could also be non gender specific…As in Dale Arden - Flash Gordon's love interest.And Dale Winton….. Nigel Scowen 73 Posted 08/11/2024 at 13:59:45 Jimmy@70Fair point, and understood… though one final point, Branthwaite helps our attacking play. Steve Brown 74 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:07:20 Ian @ 63, Dyche doesn't help himself with these self-imposed constraints on selection.Yesterday, he said that Ndiaye has never played Number 10 in the Premier League.Selecting him to play there seems the best way to solve that particular issue. McNeil is one-footed, slow and loses possession in the centre… so switch him back to the left. Colin Callaghan 75 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:10:37 I don't see him in training everyday, and I don't put much stock into press conferences, so I don't listen to them. To say it's a fact that he hasn't picked up a niggle in a soft tissue area is ridiculous.What do you know, Christy?? Steve Brown 76 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:10:52 Based on form, it is not a decision between Branthwaite or Keane. The decision should be to play Keane and Branthwaite. As for Mykolenko, he fully deserves to be parked on the subs bench alongside Tarkowski. Steve Brown 77 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:13:59 Colin, The Athletic reports that Branthwaite has been fit and available for the last 2 games. Jim Wilson 78 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:18:20 Christy @ 66 - I agree with you mate.I just think Dyche doesn't want to alienate Keane, after doing okay, by dropping him. I think he is wrong. Same goes for Young who has done okay.But when we go into the hard December games, they will be found out, then Branthwaite, Coleman or Patterson will be brought in but they won't be match fit.In the '80s, Richardson and Harper did great when called upon but they were straight back out of the team when Sheedy, Reid, Stevens, or whoever, were fit.Play your best 11, Dyche. We need points now! Derek Knox 79 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:32:19 Mark @ 71, or a Stub Born again Luddite/Dickhead/Bellend ! :-) Raymond Fox 80 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:36:30 Out of form West Ham are still 1/1 favs, we are 2/1 and 9/5 the draw. Approx. odds.They are going to be right up for this game with home advantage so its going to be tough to get any joy.I'm going to have everything crossed and be hoping for the best.I dare say Danny will have us winning 3-0.On the Keane v Branthwaite thing, I think Dyche will select Keane again because he doesn't believe in replacing a player if he had a good/ok performance in his last game.What do I think, I'm on the fence, he knows what state Branthwaite is in, so who's to say. Denis Richardson 81 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:45:19 John 67 - Dyche cannot (and wont) be sacked at least until the ownership transfers complete, which I believe is a few weeks away still. So, buckle up as the Dyche train still has some tracks to run.Jimmy 70, a very salient point albeit until Southampton we had scored on each of the previous two games. However, I think a more interesting question is whether Beto starts or DCL. Branthwaite seems to either not be 100% fit or theres discontent and he wants out (possibly both) - either way hes not been starting. Personally, have stopped trying to forecast the starting XI for now. We seem to be in a bit of a no mans land until the sale goes through. Just hope we can keep getting some points so were clear of the drop zone for the likely 4 straight losses well have in December. 3 points tomorrow would be great and wed go above them. Dale Self 82 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:58:43 Christy, why don't you go to a source on that one.Neil from above:"Dale 14. Struggling to understand your logic and the inappropriate criticism of Christy. Not sure just what " she has made up".I haven't met you and don't know the underlying identity of the posts. I simply responded as though Neil knew what he was talking about. Am I acquitted there Christy? I truly don't want to be insulting anyone personally. As for questionable posts and displays of misdirected anger, well Christy Ring 83 Posted 08/11/2024 at 14:59:51 Colin #75 Hes fully fit and in the squad, youre talking rubbish, because if youd listen to the press conference, Dyche says whos injured, anyway no more about the 22 year old England centre back, valued at over £75m, but only good enough for the bench😡 Dave Lynch 84 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:02:28 He won't play his best 11, he'll play his usual suspects, with the usual formation, the usual tactics which will yield the usual result.Which imo will be a loss...don't fucking slaughter me for saying that either, because what I think will happen will have no bearing on the team selection, tactics or result.It's my opinion, I have no faith in this manager whatsoever and I don't think the players have either. Paul Tran 85 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:03:14 John #76, the two reasons why Koeman was fired were poor performance after the scattergun spending and, in my view, because he clashed with Kenwright's mediocrity mafia and came off second best.Imagine if Dyche had the money Koeman spent and had those results, eh? Nigel Scowen 86 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:05:04 Steve @76On the money Steve. Nigel Scowen 87 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:08:03 Jim@78Good analogy Jim Peter Mills 88 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:11:18 I have been assured by the Sheffield Utd fans who have infiltrated my family by marriage that Ndiaye is a very good No.10. I suspect most of us who have watched him this season can believe that. Dale Self 89 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:14:50 I am not seeing how we get to the conclusion of fully fit from Dyche's comments. He leaves open the possibility of concerns about a recurrence if he is brought back too soon. Keane was a reasonable safe play to deal with the uncertainty and played well enough. There is no conspiracy and no reason to "cover" the decision with a story. Nigel Munford 90 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:30:44 Knickers definitely getting twisted! Its been the same for weeks, 24 hours or more before kick off and you can cut the negativity with a knife. We cannot afford to keep sacking managers, we are where we are because of the owners stupid decisions in that regard. There was news that TFG want Lampard for AS Roma, what makes people think the new owners are going to make good decisions, be careful what you wish for. Now, can we all get behind the manager and the players for the game tomorrow, and less of the negativity. Thank you. Jimmy Carr 91 Posted 08/11/2024 at 15:36:32 When I initially saw the headline about 'Lampard' and 'new Everton owners' I thought we were getting him back until I read the story.That was the only good news about Everton in weeks. Neil Lawson 92 Posted 08/11/2024 at 16:10:40 Loyalty to Keane? Don't want to leave out a player who is performing well?Whatever may be said about Keane, he is a model professional and, if left out of the side, he will not kick his toys out of the pram and he will train hard for his next opportunity. So, Mr Dyche, be a proper manager and pick the best and most effective players and send them out to win. Brian Harrison 93 Posted 08/11/2024 at 16:12:04 The Echo have said that Sean Dyche believes that "Everton will not be able to turn down any significant bids out of principle before the takeover is complete". He says "he has no knowledge of the plans of The Friedkin Group but that, if nothing had changed by January, he believed the club could struggle to turn down suitable offers for players". Why is our manager giving the green light to clubs, to make bids for our players as the club would likely agree to a deal? He then goes on to say "any bids for the players has got nothing to do with me, you can imagine the financial situation here and we have already had to sell players, I didn't want to sell".This sounds like a man who knows he won't be here much longer — and nor should he after such remarks. Jay Harris 94 Posted 08/11/2024 at 16:20:20 I believe the majority of us would choose a back four of Young, Tarkowski, Branthwaite and Mykolenko from those available. Personally speaking, I think our area of weakness has been midfield so I would go with Mangala, Gana and Doucoure with Ndiaye and Beto up front supported by Harrison and Give McNeill a long overdue rest. I don't think he has fully recovered from his injury and looks off the pace to me.Dyche may surprise us and play 3 at the back which IMO would create total confusion and not play to players' strengths. Mike Connolly 95 Posted 08/11/2024 at 16:33:02 I think, if we get beat by West Ham, he'll be gone. The ideal situation is looming: The International break! Alan McGuffog 96 Posted 08/11/2024 at 16:48:44 If that's really the case then you're quite right, Brian.In the name of God, go! (Not you, Brian!) Brian Wilkinson 97 Posted 08/11/2024 at 16:50:14 I have a feeling he will start Branthwaite tomorrow… he simply has to; that will be the only bright spot of the afternoon.Also, I have a feeling that both McNeil and Doucoure will get game time as well, even if they have to come on holding crutches.Anyone with common sense would rest them until after the International break… but not Dyche: he will make sure both start or come off the bench.No need to have them getting back on the grass after getting splinters in their arse for 3 weeks sat on the bench, both will be thrown in at some point tomorrow.If it sounds negative, we'll that's the way the manager has sunk my expectations and sucked the life out of me.I would love to have the Danny effect, see us rolling them over, but I just do not have any faith in Dyche anymore, no matter how hard I try to be positive.So feel free to label me a doom merchant – but before doing so, hold back to see the team selection first, and see if Doucoure is thrown straight back in the team, or comes off the bench. I will happily eat humble pie if McNeil and Doucoure are not risked. Mike Gaynes 98 Posted 08/11/2024 at 17:22:05 Lyndon #19, damn, now I've been caught out that I don't listen to your podcast! I'm sorry. (I don't actually listen to podcasts at all, but if I were to start...)I agree, it's not about loyalty re Keane... it's just about putting your best 11 on the pitch for every game. My contention is that he's simply playing better than Tarkowski right now, at a level of confidence I've rarely seen before. None of his famous hesitations or indecision. You're correct that he's unproven in partnership with Jarrad, but I would take that chance right now and give Tarkowski some time to rest and heal. Brian Wilkinson 99 Posted 08/11/2024 at 17:29:39 Mike, I fully agree with you, Tarkowski is still struggling, I would look to start Branthwaite in his place and also consider O'Brien alongside him.I might be tough on Keane as he has upped his game the last few weeks, but I still think Branthwaite will help Mykolenko out, and give us those extra yards further upfield, than a hoof up to Calvert-Lewin. Mike Gaynes 100 Posted 08/11/2024 at 17:40:03 Jimmy #70, a calm rational post like that has no place in this discussion. I can't agree 100% because Jarrad does contribute in attack, as Keane does less often and Tarkowski does not at all. But your overall point is correct that our bigger problem is in the opponent's box rather than ours.Fred #50 and Brian #93, Dyche is a veteran professional manager and I'm sure he understands that his time at Everton is coming to an end, June at the latest. Being a blunt sort of guy (and unlike others here I think he's honest), he feels free to be more direct. It's liberating in a way. Helpful? Nah, but that doesn't matter, the Friedkins won't care. Christy Ring, don't be too harsh on the erroneous gender judgement -- it took me a bit of time also to realize you were a male Christy, and the other prominent Christy here is female. Mike Gaynes 101 Posted 08/11/2024 at 17:52:41 Mike #95, don't bet on it. The only guy with the power to sack him and hire another manager is Moshiri, and he's in the final stages of selling the club, so a major financial move would be business idiocy. Unless the ownership change is close enough to completion that Friedkin can sign off on a new manager, it's very unlikely to happen. Jerome Shields 102 Posted 08/11/2024 at 17:57:01 Dyche is just putting players in the shop window, as he has been doing for the past 2 months. Dale Self 103 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:07:46 Sorry again, Christy, actually I think I was defensive in the response, but I am genuinely sorry for the offence. Kim Vivian 104 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:11:53 Christy - 59. I know the feeling. Not from here but often elsewhere! Joe McMahon 105 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:14:14 Jerome @102, But he's not playing the only player most would want. That's harsh on Ndiaye I know, but he's just arrived. Dave Abrahams 106 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:18:58 Mike (100), Maybe it's because you live in America but I've never ever heard of a female in Liverpool called Christy. Christine, the ToffeeWeb lady poster, calls herself Christine; possibly she would answer to Chris, Chrissy or even Tina but call her Christy and I would imagine you might get a robust answer! Denis Richardson 107 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:22:50 Christy is a man?I too thought that was of the other gender…. Alan McGuffog 108 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:30:33 Christy Moore... Ireland's greatest living songstress Kevin Naylor 109 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:32:26 Christy Canyon ah em fine actress. Jeff Armstrong 110 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:35:00 Christy was always a bloke's name in Liverpool. I think from Irish heritage, remember Daniel Day Lewis's Oscar-winning performance as Christy Brown?My Left Foot Also Brenda Fricker won best actress in the same film. Liam Mogan 111 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:35:54 I work with both a male and a female Christy. So, that's at least 2 genders covered! Colin Malone 112 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:48:51 I hope this is Dictator Dyche's last game. It's still never his fault. Get shut, before it's too late. Mike Connolly 113 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:49:47 Mike 101 you've put on a right downer. I put a bet on Everton winning and if not he'll be gone. Do you think I'll be able to get my bet back, Mike? Derek Knox 114 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:50:30 Alan @108, "Christy Moore... Ireland greatest living songstress "???Yer, having a laugh or taking the piss surely, he's a well known Folk Singer and been around for a long time, Planxty and moving Hearts! Christine Foster 115 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:53:44 Over the years, the old truisms still hold fast. "You always play your best players" or "You don't change a winning team" or better still, " The team picks itself".Well, I thought they did but I seem to be proven wrong when it's our team. I appreciate the lack of high-quality players but this group of players can play football, attractive football. This was shown against Bournemouth and Aston Villa but poor tactics and dreadful game management saw defeats and a tactical reversal to type by the manager, when fixing the tactics and defence was, and still is in my opinion, the obvious choice.It's also one of the reasons I feel Dyche is frustrating so many, self included. Which brings me to another more subtle niggle. Dyche's attitude to Everton fans.Is it me who finds him condescending in his referencing of fans? I cannot recall him praising the support but he references the noise at this club which seems to be directed at fans' views. Rarely direct in his criticism but leaves you with the feeling that the perception of blame promoted by Moshiri, Kenwright, of fans, still persists at the club. Gut feelings, like truisms, are rarely wrong, unless of course it's our team. What was that last one? Oh yes, "How would Everton do it?" Brian Harrison 116 Posted 08/11/2024 at 18:57:03 I get the distinct impression that Dyche knows he is going, so he is trying to create a narrative that he has had no say in player sales and that he is totally blameless. I don't know if the players still believe in him and his methods, but he doesn't much care about them and even less about what us fans think. With yet another international break coming up, if we had new owners in charge, it would have been the ideal time for a new manager to come in. But our new owners are still weeks away from taking control so, if the result doesn't go our way tomorrow, sadly I can't see who would have the power to change the manager.Both Dyche and his West Ham counterpart will be desperate for a result; although I want him gone, I hope somehow we pick up all 3 points tomorrow. Christine Foster 117 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:09:15 Dave, being of Liverpool Irish decent, you're correct in saying I have been called many things and even a few variations of my actual name, but to me Christie was the female abbreviated version and Christy the abbreviated version of Christopher. The 'gender neutral' versions of Chris, Chrissy are common all over, in Oz I was often called Chrissy, friends of family might shorten it to Chris but rarely...What's in a name? Well, it's who you are and how you want to be seen, not a label for others to make assumptions! Nigel Scowen 118 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:16:36 Id take Christy all day long, Lucifer is officially a more popular name than Nigel for newborns in the UK. Mick O'Malley 119 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:20:46 Christine spot on, I don't mind friends work colleagues etc calling me 'Mick' but if me mum or dad hears anyone calling me 'Mick', they correct them with "It's Michael, not Mick!" Jeff Armstrong 120 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:22:48 118, call yourself Nige, or Nidge (Nidge Weasel, Love/Hate)Bit more interesting than Nigel, me? Ive hated Jeff, Jeffrey (bubbles bon bon etc)for years,Whats OUR name?Everton. David West 121 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:23:41 This should be a game we are relishing but getting excited about this side is a hard ask. It shouldn't be now we have Ndiaye, Lindstrøm, Iroegbunam, Branthwaite, Garner, O'Brien even McNeil. These need letting off the leash Dyche has got them on. But we all know it's not happening, so I struggle to get excited, knowing we are just going to get more of the same. Tell me its what he's got to do! Tell me he's dealing with crappie players!Tell me we have injuries! Tell he's doing his best with what he's got! I get it! But when you're not playing the one player in the side who the top clubs in the league want, while you are continuing with tactics that every opposition manager sees coming weeks before the game, not trying to tweak the formula to suit players' ability, not using the striker who seems to make and take his chances more than Calvert-Lewin. I just can't get excited knowing exactly like the opposition what's coming!! We are Everton, yes, we are not the title-winning marauding Everton, or even the "Best of the rest" Moyes era Everton. But we can aspire to be a better version of what we are being served at the moment. Areola is getting a squad of a lot lesser players playing a lot better football, with results too. Silva is getting his players playing a better brand of football with a similar standard of squad I'd say. Frank is keeping Brentford, yes, Brentford, above us year on year, without kicking it long at every opportunity, he'd kill for our squad!!! So let's not be naive, don't believe Dyche's propaganda, he's out of his depth at Everton. Christine Foster 122 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:25:33 The West Ham game. I hope your predicted team is correct, Lyndon, but I still can't see Dyche dropping either Keane or Tarkowski as he should in my opinion.Is it me but his reference to the role of a No 10 in the Premier League was a real cop-out, they have clear defensive duties rather than being creative (inferring they are just passengers now). What a crock of self-justifying crap. I confess the cynic in me, on seeing Ndiaye weaving his way through the centre of the park, he was a joy to watch but I wondered how long it would be before he was put out wide with clear defensive duties to cover the full-back...? I'mrowing to despise Dyche's anti-football, I really am. Of course Ndiaye should be in the middle where he does damage to the opposition, not wide where he can defend... Arghhh!!! Colin Crooks 123 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:27:35 Christy.I checked out Lyndon's post as you suggested. He opens up with the words "My interpretation" – a clue in there for you. You seem determined to force your opinion on other posters about Dyche leaving out Branthwaite. What's is it – 40 posts?I don't wear tinted glasses, mate. I know that Braithwaite wasn't fit for Ipswich as you claim. I know he broke down several times before he finally played a game this season, and I know he was out for weeks again after that game. You can say it another 40 times. I won't be buying it. As far as I'm concerned, Dyche's explanation is far more plausible than your numerous fingers-in-the-ears denials. Kunal Desai 124 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:41:56 Calvert-Lewin has a good record at the London Stadium. Scored in the last two one-nil wins and got the equaliser down there before lockdown. Good omen for tomorrow. Nigel Scowen 125 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:45:03 Good to hear Kunal.Fingers crossed! Andy Meighan 126 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:49:26 Dyche keeps mentioning the form Tarkowski and Keane are in… Can someone explain to me what this mythical form is?Keane has done okay and just that, while Tarkowski has, let's be honest here, been shit all season. He was very lucky to stay on the pitch at Soton last week.Reading between the lines in his press conference, this so-called manager indicated that the aforementioned duo have been playing well, I've got news for him: they haven't.I honestly believe if Branthwaite played against Fulham and Southampton, we wouldn't have conceded them 2 goals.But Sean sees things differently to us match-going fans, doesn't he, and I'll be amazed to see Branthwaite's name In the line-up tomorrow Mike Gaynes @18, if you think Keane is playing the best football of his Everton career, you're seriously deluded.Like I said earlier, he's done okay and that's it. The one thing I will say in his favour is he does look a goal threat, and for a centre-back, he has scored some absolute crackers with feet and head.I'm no Keane hater by the way, I just happen to think, once Branthwaite is fit, he plays – because he brings out the best in others. Alan McGuffog 127 Posted 08/11/2024 at 19:50:29 Derek, I'd never dream of taking the piss on this forum I was being a trifle playful 😀 Paul Tran 128 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:09:16 Dyche 'never praises the fans', except in most after-match interviews I watch. Thomas Frank 'finishes higher than Dyche' - only because of our points deduction last season. Bournemouth and Fulham have 'inferior squads' - not convinced by that either.Dyche is performing badly this season. Poor preseason, poor team selection, poor decision-making, poor goals and points tally, questionable fitness management, shocking football. That's plenty enough to see his job in peril.But some of the stuff I read on here. Jerome Shields 129 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:19:44 Joe #105,Dyche does not care what the fans want. He plays what suits his system, which he will continue with to the end of the season.Players either like it or lump it. He does not think beyond the next game.He is the new survival specialist in the Premier League and will get well paid for it. Derek Knox 131 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:30:31 Alan @ 127, I should have realised but thought you were serious for a moment. Forgive me for that mate ? :-) Paul Smith 132 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:35:33 Watched Branthwaite come on at Saints last week and from my vantage point pitch side the first ball he played across the 18-yard box oozed class. He's a cut above – a Rolls-Royce of a player – he must start if fit. Alan McGuffog 133 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:36:49 Derek No worries pal. 👍 Alan McGuffog 134 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:43:33 Jeff...120, Wonder how many on here remember " bubbles bon bon "?. Twas back in the days of the Holy Trinity 😀 Paul Tran 135 Posted 08/11/2024 at 20:54:03 Was that from The Lovers with Richard Beckinsale? Neil Lawson 136 Posted 08/11/2024 at 21:01:44 The cop out for Dyche is to play all 3 centre backs and to justify it by claiming it is a tactical switch. Or he could play Keane at centre forward. 😀 Tom Bowers 137 Posted 08/11/2024 at 21:20:30 There is no easy fix for Dyche as the squad is poor, to say the least.Just when we think what line-up will get us winning matches, someone gets injured or the plan from the first whistle goes pear-shaped because the opposition has a better plan.We have a core of players who are no longer cutting the mustard and hopefully after 1 January – or certainly by next season – have all been cut loose.The Hammers are not much but, if they keep Bowen quiet, they may get a result. Having said that, it's hard to find any confidence in putting a bet on an Everton win. Mark Murphy 138 Posted 08/11/2024 at 21:38:09 Only a gay would remember Richard Beckinsale over the beautiful, doe-eyed, Paula Wilcox...Nothing wrong with gays - just saying. Tony Abrahams 139 Posted 08/11/2024 at 21:48:04 When I think of Richard Beckindale, I think of Rigsby, Norman Stanley Fletcher and his daughter Kate!!With the post-truth era already upon us, then I can understand why Dyche will have upset people by telling the truth!Seriously, the club has been nothing short of a shambles, so hopefully The Friedkin Group will be with us very soon. Boxing Day would do me though, on the 25 anniversary of the day of the absolute curse. Christy Ring 140 Posted 08/11/2024 at 22:08:45 Dale #103, My sincere apologies over my reaction, because I always thought Christy was and is a male name, as here in Ireland, and that Christie was female, but I've since been informed on here, Christy is female as well, apologies again. Oliver Molloy 141 Posted 08/11/2024 at 22:39:11 I think it is very possible Everton will have one of those days tomorrow – which type of day it will be who knows!I also think Dyche knows he is a dead duck and, even if he sees out this season, it will be his last. Dale Self 142 Posted 08/11/2024 at 23:12:16 You are fine, Christy. I lit you up with my smart-ass post. I will do the apology to get us together. We may not both support the manager but we are Blue! Christy Ring 143 Posted 08/11/2024 at 23:16:25 Dale #142, Thanks. I've no problem with the manager who has been great, but my gripe is this season. Dale Self 144 Posted 08/11/2024 at 23:21:45 Right on, Christy. I also have to admit that early on, when Kim cut hair for good luck and winning results on the Live Forum, I made the same mistake. Ashley Roberts 145 Posted 09/11/2024 at 00:48:26 Branthwaite has to start tomorrow to assist Mykolenko being a lefty. As we know, the Hammers will attack down the right side with Bowen who can be very dangerous. Hence we need to double up on him down that side and Branthwaite is much better equipped than Keane to deal with this threat.The problem is our midfield and we certainly miss Garner. He would be a good replacement for Doucoure. But without Garner, we are left with combining Doucoure with either Mangala or Gana. I don't think we need to play both defensive players against West Ham. I would also play Lindstrøm over Harrison. And so the only remaining question is will it be Beto or Calvert-Lewin? My preference would be Calvert-Lewin but maybe Beto deserves a shot after his last 2 games. The Hammers are there for the taking and so I hope we don't put 10 players behind the ball and play long balls to the lone striker. We just cannot afford to lose this game with all the tough fixtures coming up. Steve Brown 146 Posted 09/11/2024 at 00:59:30 Steve is a good name… if youre over 40. Steve Brown 147 Posted 09/11/2024 at 01:01:46 Colin @ 123, Branthwaite might not have been fit for Ipswich. He was fit for Fulham and Southampton. Mike Gaynes 148 Posted 09/11/2024 at 01:54:01 Dave #106, I knew that, but everybody named Christy (or Christie or Kristy or Kristi) in America is female. 100%. That's why I didn't leap to a conclusion one way or the other. Christy #140, you mean photos of my beloved Christy Turlington never made it across the Atlantic? Still can't believe that punk actor Burns beat me to her. Alan #108, that was perfect. Made me laugh out loud. I was introduced to Christy by my Irish neighbor and I have four of his songs on my iPhone. Andy #126, when has he ever played this well? Never in my recollection. Ernie Baywood 149 Posted 09/11/2024 at 03:23:24 If Branthwaite is fit, then he has to play.But he was reported as having a "minor thigh injury". From personal experience – there is no such thing. A thigh injury is a horror – you never know when it's going to go again... and every time you think you're okay, it goes again until the one time it doesn't. Then you live in fear that you'll move in an awkward direction and it will go again. It's what started Calvert-Lewin's injury problems. I can live with the club taking their time with him. It's the only answer. Though in the back of my mind, I wonder whether it's a case of getting him to January for the Boxing Day sales with his value intact. Derek Knox 150 Posted 09/11/2024 at 05:17:44 Ernie, getting Branthwaite, fit or keeping him injury free, before January, makes little sense at all. I could believe that if we didn't have a take-over in progress, and were struggling for money.Surely TFG will want to keep our best players and provide some investment to add more quality! Ernie Baywood 151 Posted 09/11/2024 at 05:33:37 Then maybe it's just patience. I don't think we'll be flush with money once the takeover happens, by the way. We'll still be a club that needs to buy and sell well. Mike Gaynes 152 Posted 09/11/2024 at 06:05:32 Ernie, by comparison to our current situation, that's flush. Paul Birmingham 153 Posted 09/11/2024 at 07:19:58 Safe journey today for those going to Stratford. I hope and pray that Sean Dyche picks his best available players. It's a 6-pointer and imo, a must win to ease pressure, that is looming in fixtures next month. A draw would be okay, but time for Everton to shine.Jarrad Branthwaite playing is as good as having an extra player in this Everton team, that's how good he is.Santo Domingo, Viva Everton! UTFTs! Jerome Shields 154 Posted 09/11/2024 at 07:50:04 Ernie #131.Thank you for your insight. That could explain a lot. Sam Hoare 155 Posted 09/11/2024 at 07:50:47 It seems West Ham are missing Kudus, Bowen, Alvarez and Todibo. A good time to play them. So we know what that means!!I've always said I thought TFG would and probably should stick with Dyche till the end of the season, mainly because there are more and better managers available in the summer and it's a better time to attempt to evolve the playing style. But, if performances and results continue in the Southampton vein, then he'll be gone sooner rather later (assuming the takeover goes through in the next few weeks).Last chance saloon for the pragmatist? A win today would take us above West Ham and possibly 7 points clear of relegation, whereas a loss could leave us right in it with a tough December on the horizon. Mark Murphy 156 Posted 09/11/2024 at 07:51:39 Mike – see post 65.Big fan – she was, and still is, gorgeous! Jay Evans 157 Posted 09/11/2024 at 08:01:36 Jarrad has been fit for the last couple of weeks but he hasnt been selected to start because his attitude in training has been really poor, apparently. (I cant/wont reveal my source.)He wanted to move in the summer (OBrien was actually bought to replace him) and was extremely disappointed when the Onana deal meant that we then didnt have to sell him. Cue sulksville.Such a shame because he is our best defender by a million miles, I think we all know that.Christy is a lovely name - as in Ring or Turlington. Mmmmmm, Turlington.My name is Jamie but when I joined TW many moons ago it would only let me sign in as Jay for some reason ? Jamie is also a lovely name, provided it is used in the right context, ie as in “and the Magic Torch” and not Carragher or Redknapp.Don't ask me why but I fancy Dominic to score today. Is Dominic also a lovely name ? I dont know but what a good side St Dominics were. Is that the correct use of were ? Mark Murphy 158 Posted 09/11/2024 at 08:03:07 Sam that's good news if Bowen is out. Good player and he seems to be a bit of a talisman for them.But to win a game we need attacking intent. Let's hope Dyche sends them out to win today! Late in - I hear McNeil hasn't travelled for the game…. Danny O'Neill 159 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:02:18 Safe travels today blues.As names crept into this, a straw poll on the name of my next dog.Sheedy or Amber? Ray Roche 160 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:07:21 Harvey? Howie? Mark Murphy 161 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:13:58 Pickles Scott Hamilton 162 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:14:59 My daughter is going to her first game today. Her new boyfriend is a Hammers fan so she's going to be the only Blue in their season ticket territory.We've chatted about it over the last few days and she seems to have perfected shouting “Come on Blues, deez are shite…” Hope they are and we come away with the points! Paul Birmingham 163 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:16:43 Danny, - Sheedy or Bracewell, Big Nev or Zico -Alan Harper! 😆 👍🍀💙🤍⚽️⚽️⚽️🍻🍻🍻 Ted Roberts 164 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:17:19 Safe and rewarding journey to all our travelling Blues.Looking for a positive performance and a climb up the table to stop the rot.Not impossible,just needs commitment,implement the right tactics and find the back of the net,what could be simpler!!!!! COYB. Danny O'Neill 165 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:17:30 Good luck to her Scott. I've done sitting with the home supporters many times. Hopefully she can be the standout when we score the winner!! Mike Doyle 166 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:24:40 I guess an Everton win would round off a good week for TWs USA posters … Trump beating Harris, S&P 500 reaching record high - plus 3 points would make it a ‘Holy Trinity week? James Marshall 167 Posted 09/11/2024 at 09:38:19 Trump beating Harris wasn't good news for anyone, least of all Americans. Some of us are still in shock at the stupidity of US voters.I see West Ham are missing Kudus, Bowen, Todibo and Alvarez - good news for us, but almost certainly means we'll fuck it up and lose. Mark Murphy 168 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:00:21 Last time I shouted that, Scott, (Wolves away last season) I got called an “effing nonce” by a big angry EVERTON fan.Im still puzzled by his reaction.I think he was just a very angry person.UTFT Jay Evans 169 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:01:51 Danny - Sheedy for a male dog or Amber if its a bitch. Rob Hooton 170 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:06:45 I think we can all agree that wed like to see Branthwaite start! Others have alluded to an attitude problem, first Ive heard of it. Half of this squad will be gone at the end of this season (out of contract) so a major rebuilding is needed with limited funds - I imagine Branthwaite will be sold to fund 3-4 players coming in.Two poor teams today IMO, Im still going to watch even though it is often quite dreary, just in case! Reckon the odd goal will win it, DCL seems to like this ground so it would be nice for him to get on the scoresheet, even if it is off the bench.Id like to hear the opinion on names from Roberta Halligan… (only joking Rob, you are very manly). Rob Hooton 171 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:11:03 Danny, is the name Blue already taken with your dog/s? My wife wouldnt let me call our dog Blue, but I like it.Safe travel blues, the Hammers injury and suspension list has cheered me a little so I think well win 2-1. Dave Abrahams 172 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:19:16 Whatever team is selected I hope they play with a much more attacking intent than in the last three games which provided one goal for us and two goals for the opposition, two points for us but five for the sides we played against but the three matches were dire, dreadful and dismal to watch.Come on Dychey think of the early morning start our fans are making today and give them something to cheer ffs and help them to travel home with a smile on their faces and when they watch the highlights tonight or tomorrow, COUFB! Brian Harrison 173 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:30:28 Dave 172Love your optimism, Dyche to play with attacking intent, we haven't seen us play that way since Dyche arrived. I think I might watch the England v Australia rugby and just put Sky on at halftime and fulltime. My wife worries about my blood pressure when watching Everton, as from minute one I am shouting at the television, you would think an old guy like me wouldnt get so wound up. Laurie Hartley 174 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:42:33 I watched the highlights of the Hammers against Forest. Their (what happened to i before e except after c?) defence is terrible. If we have a go at them, I think we will take the 3 points. The question is: Has Dyche got it in him to really make this a 6-point result for us? We will know as soon as we see the line-up. PickfordYoung, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, MykolenkoGueye, MangalaLindstrøm, Doucoure, NdiayeBeto.4-3-2-1Up the Blues Martin Mason 175 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:42:52 Good luck today to Everton and our travelling fans and calmness to those who will have to watch it on streams. There is no reason why we can't do well and seeing how well they do with McNeil out and Doucoure in may be interesting. Dave Abrahams 176 Posted 09/11/2024 at 10:53:57 Brian (173),Join the club! Watching Everton should carry a health warning these days, especially with VAR ruling the game. I've only got two or three ‘jumping up and going beserk' moments during a game these days and I'm wasting most of them with that bleedin' VAR. My wife suffers more when they are playing away and I bang the side of my armchair and screaming “For fuck's sake, Pickford, Tarkowski, Keane, Doucoure, [your favourite] Harrison, Calvert-Lewin or Onana (just from habit) – take your pick!There's plenty to pick from every single game, even when we occasionally win, she suffers with high blood pressure so now she asks “Are you watching Everton today?” and when I say I am she gets her coat and car keys handy and does one before the match starts! Andrew Merrick 177 Posted 09/11/2024 at 11:03:47 Jay @157,I really don't know if Jarrard wants away, but he will want to be playing every game he's fit, and if that puts his price up, that's not a bad thing. Derek Taylor 178 Posted 09/11/2024 at 11:19:13 I suspect that 'Branflakes' has a preservation put on him by order of the soon-to-be new owners. He is not to be over-risked before Christmas by which time his transfer to one of 'the big boys' will yield enough to sign half a new team for the run-in!Meanwhile, I see little prospect of a win today but a draw bet of £50 to £20 certainly appeals, whatever mess of a team Dyche chooses to field. Nigel Scowen 179 Posted 09/11/2024 at 11:20:28 Go at them from the off Blues. They are there for the taking. A bit of early pressure and their own crowd will make them nervous.PickfordYoung, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, MykolenkoMangala, Gana, DoucoureNdiayeBeto, Calvert-Lewin Be adventurous and we will prevail. Raymond Fox 180 Posted 09/11/2024 at 11:27:08 Hoping for a win today, I'll take a draw if I have to.We are just not very good – that's the top and tail of it, although if our front men could put their chances away, our profile would go up considerably. We are making some chances every game, but missing too many.Good luck to our supporters everywhere. Mark Murphy 181 Posted 09/11/2024 at 11:38:15 That's a good shout, Rob Hooton. If my selfish cow of a wife who I've been married to for 25 years tomorrow (bless her) would let me have a dog, I'd call him Blue.But, if it wasn't my own name, I think the name Murphy is a great name for a big dog. (Hint hint Danny - or is it Dani….)Re the line-up, is Doucoure fit then?? I was hoping we'd see Lindstrøm at 10.Travel well, Blues – hope the day is a good one, this time… not spoiled by a football match! Bill Fairfield 182 Posted 09/11/2024 at 12:24:12 Hopefully well have a rare good day and manage to get something. Usual slog expected though. UTT. Dennis Stevens 183 Posted 09/11/2024 at 12:46:39 Wasn't Blue the name of a character in The High Chaparral? Brian Wilkinson 184 Posted 09/11/2024 at 12:50:07 Got some great news for Evertonians, after today we get an International break to recharge our batteries.Just think – next weekend we can all chill out and enjoy the weekend… every cloud, hey.I wish Lyndon was picking the team, I would be happy with that line-up. Somehow though I think the only one he will bring in is Branthwaite… even Dyche cannot be stubborn enough to leave him on the bench again.I still think he will stick with Calvert-Lewin in attack and I'm half expecting Doucoure to be in the squad and play at some point… possibly starting with Harrison instead of Lindstrom, not my choices but I'm fully expecting an almost as-you-were line-up, his safety-first set-up.All being well, he will surprise us with Branthwaite, Lindstrom, Mangala and Beto all starting… not holding my breath though. Derek Taylor 185 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:09:32 Brian, things have come to a pretty state when you look forward to a weekend without a game to watch! But I know what you mean because football – for all its money at Premier League level – absolutely stinks. And bloody VAR has only added to that disillusion, methinks. Stu Darlington 186 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:18:55 Regardless of the team he picks,I hope he doesnt play the same turgid,defensive rubbish hes treated us to in the last few games.Teams know what to expect when they play Everton so lets give them something to think about and change the narrative.We have shown we can play direct attacking football at times this season,so lets go for it.My only concern is Dyche cant change his mind set.He seems totally bereft of ideas,which linked with his apparent stubbornness is a recipe for disaster Bill Gall 187 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:30:18 It does not matter who he puts in the team they have to keep up their intensity, as their lack of it at times gift the opposition the points.Branthwaite's major quality is his speed for such a big man and that is the reason that he must start when fit. Their is talk that Tarks is carrying an injury, so why is he played, as that could increase the injury and lengthen the recovery.Its easy being a manager on here but I give up on trying to guess what Dyche may do as at times it is hard to understand what he does, and easier to criticize after the game.Regardless of the team he picks or the tactics he uses it is up to the players on the pitch to perform, as it is not like they have just met, they are supposed to train together all week. Danny O'Neill 188 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:33:00 I'll consider that Mark! Dave, my wife used to constantly call me a child and ask me if I'd "ran away' to watch Everton. Sleep with the dogs!! Robert Tressell 189 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:35:17 Bill # 187 - it depends what the respective injuries are, the severity etc I guess. Anyway, good attitude, hard work and concentration and we have every chance of 3 points today. Anthony Jones 190 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:46:53 Sarri in January would do us.His approach has it's weaknesses, but it can be entertaining.What is the point of sport if it isn't entertaining?Dyche was the ideal manager to get us through a tough period, but he is a management-by-numbers type.Had enough of that with 11 years of Moyes. Dave Abrahams 191 Posted 09/11/2024 at 13:48:35 Danny (188), My wife just gives me “ One of those looks” after she recovers from “ You nearly gave me a heart attack”.Jesus you'd think she'd know me by now we've been married 63 years with no remission — for her! Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb