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Match Postponed

The derby between Everton and Liverpool at Goodison Park has been postponed due to high winds, travel chaos and safety concerns caused by Storm Darragh.


Everton and Liverpool go head-to-head this weekend in what will, in all likelihood, be the last Merseyside derby to take place at Goodison Park.

The Blues will be moving to their new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock for the start of next season, closing a chapter of local, Blues-vs-Reds clashes at the Grand Old Lady spanning 132 years.

The final edition, barring a meeting between the two clubs in the FA Cup this season, will be a Saturday lunchtime kick-off, pitting the clear Premier League pace-setters against an Everton side battling to keep its distance from the relegation zone for a fourth straight season.

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Sean Dyche’s men gave themselves a huge psychological boost on Wednesday evening, however, when they pummelled Wolves 4-0, collecting three points that could prove invaluable as they prepare to play four successive games against the current top four between now and Boxing Day.

Having struggled to find the right combination in midfield and attack to find ways of scoring goals in recent weeks, Dyche struck upon a promising line-up in midweek that, combined with the return of the Blues’ potency from set-pieces under the former Burnley boss, helped them record their biggest home victory since he took charge in January 2023.

It’s likely that, despite a few knocks, the manager will go for the same XI against Liverpool given that the players will have a full week to recover before they travel to the Emirates Stadium next weekend.

Armando Broja made a hugely encouraging cameo against Wolves and will provide a valuable option off the bench as he

Michael Keane is described as “touch and go” in terms of being available after missing the last two matches with a knee injury but James Garner and Tim Iroegbunam will remain sidelined.

The Reds, flying this season under Arne Slot, had their margin at the top of the table cut to seven points when they let a 3-2 lead slip at Newcastle on Wednesday and they could be without as many as seven first-team players this weekend.

Alexis Mac Allister serves a two-match ban, Trent Alexander-Arnold is nursing a hamstring problem, and neither Alisson Becker nor Diogo Jota are expected to return until later in the month. Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas and Conor Bradley, meanwhile, are all sidelined until the New Year.

Unfortunately, Slot has talent in abundance and Mohamed Salah in red-hot form, meaning that Everton will need to be on it from the first minute to 90-plus if they are to get anything from the game.

A repeat of April’s stunning 2-0 victory appears unlikely given the form of the two sides but it would have Evertonians in dreamland and anything is possible on derby day.

Kick-off: 12:30 pm, Saturday 7 December 2024
Referee: Michael Oliver
VAR: Chris Kavanagh
Last Time: Everton 2 - 0 Liverpool

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Young, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Gueye, Mangala, McNeil, Ndiaye, Doucouré, Calvert-Lewin

 

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Nigel Scowen
1 Posted 05/12/2024 at 09:31:59
Kim,

The derby is a completely different game, we were shit when we played them last season.

That one will be decided by bottle more than skill. I'm sure Liverpool won't be looking forward to it.

Into the Bear Pit you go! 😡

Oliver Molloy
2 Posted 05/12/2024 at 09:36:37
Last ever league derby at Goodison on the way…

Let's see if it means anything to the players!

Kim Vivian
3 Posted 05/12/2024 at 10:00:31
Nigel - I agree. But as I said "If we play like that on Saturday, it will be a massacre."

I stand by that and we need a real dogs of war approach. Sadly I don't think many of them have that attitude. Tarkowski, Young, maybe Branthwaite, Gana, Doucourie, Beto (but he's shite) and maybe Broja I exclude from that.

I hope we do make it a bear pit.

Dennis Stevens
4 Posted 05/12/2024 at 12:27:16
Calvert-Lewin hat-trick, that'd surprise a few people!
Jay Harris
5 Posted 05/12/2024 at 12:57:26
Shock more likely, Dennis.
Lee Courtliff
6 Posted 05/12/2024 at 13:09:02
If we play like we did last night, then we'll get battered, Wolves wasted a few opportunities that Liverpool certainly won't.

I'm hoping the game they had last night has taken a bit out of them, I was actually glad they didn't lose last night as it's very unlikely they'll lose 2 on the bounce.

If we defend like we did last season, attack with belief and intent and feed off the crowd, then we might be able to upset them. My heart says a win for us but my head is saying 0-0.

Russell Smith
7 Posted 05/12/2024 at 16:32:03
If we play with the same intensity against Liverpool we have a great chance. They are short of centre-backs and St Virgil can't be everywhere.

I just hope Mykolenko plays Salah like he did last season, because the threat will be they play very wide and we play very narrow, meaning they will be a constant problem from the wings with both Salah and Gakpo being their in-form players.

Dave Abrahams
8 Posted 05/12/2024 at 21:18:24
Russell,

I think Mykolenko had a good first half in that 2-0 win at Goodison last season against Liverpool but never returned for the second half because of an injury.

Ashley Young came on and did a good job of keeping Salah quiet as well.

Alan McGuffog
9 Posted 05/12/2024 at 23:25:27
A bit of a free hit really. The football world, including most of our fans, expect us to get thumped.

So let's go for it and, as in derby games of yore, sharpen the studs and get our retaliation in first, as St Augustine said.

Ernie Baywood
10 Posted 05/12/2024 at 23:29:15
Last year's performance really came from nowhere. Could lightning strike twice again?

I won't be getting my hopes but it would be so great to give the Old Lady one more memorable Derby.

Christine Foster
11 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:24:14
Put Broja (in place of Doucoure) an Calvert-Lewin up front, Virgil van Dijk will have a mare.. and we could actually win. Patterson or Coleman (both can overlap) in for Myko with Young switching flanks. Have to go with 4 in the middle: Gana, Mangala, McNeil and Ndiaye with Lindstrom Armstrong and Beto subs.

Bottle guy, we can do this!

Dale Self
12 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:45:15
It could be that saving Mangala for this run of matches sparks something. He has an intensity that could keep the team from getting anxious if we can force some turnovers early. If the red shite cannot control tempo, anything could happen.

The shite know they are in for a test. We all know we have a chance. I hope we get on top and do the dark arts of football to them. No sending off please.

Andrew James
13 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:46:25
My concern is that since our adorable squatters broke clear in the league and the press started speculating about Mo Salah's contract, they've reverted back to their old tricks.

Salah's been stepping into the area at pace and diving even more than usual, Van Dijk has been "commanding" his own area by shirt pulling and hugging without any punishment and, to make it worse, Nunez is becoming proficient in the dark arts.

The composure of Pickford, Branthwaite and Tarkowski will be crucial if we want to get anything from this one. I'd be tempted to start with Calvert-Lewin as we know Van Dijk gets unsettled by his aerial ability.

Ernie Baywood
14 Posted 06/12/2024 at 01:36:26
Christine, Broja really did excite in his cameo. Could be a great asset, or it could be a false dawn... but one thing I'm pretty confident of is that Dyche won't throw him in with only 10 minutes under his belt. To be fair, he might even be right given Broja's injuries.

Not sure we can expect a 'wildcard' selection.

Christine Foster
15 Posted 06/12/2024 at 02:07:58
Ernie, I think its the only way we are going to beat them. If we give up the ground, they will camp on our penalty box.

I would rather go for them than play for the draw. I understand a reluctance to give him more time but even if he lasts to half time he can be replaced with Beto.

Gomez is rubbish and Van Dijk will never manage both.

Laurie Hartley
16 Posted 06/12/2024 at 03:02:33
Van Dijk shouldn’t even be starting in this game. He should be on a red card for violent conduct for his shoulder charge on Anthony Gordon’s jaw behind the play at the weekend. I have no respect for him at all.

I think he is a thug and I haven’t forgotten what he did in the first few minutes in the Goodison derby against Calvert-Lewin(stamped his heel from behind) followed shortly after by what he did to James (another shoulder charge). Then what he did to Onana in the Goodison derby last season.

He never even got a yellow card for any of those serious fowls. No VAR. Those officials overseeing those matches are either bent or cowards or both. Then he has the temerity to blame Pickford for getting hurt in that 50/50 challenge. I would like someone to sort him out. It’s a pity Pickford isn’t our centre forward - he wouldn’t hesitate.

Here is a sample of his handiwork - note the clenched right fist

Link

Steve Brown
17 Posted 06/12/2024 at 03:41:59
4-3-3 in attack and 4-5-1 in defence.

Get on the front foot, play long-diagonals or balls over the top as their defence is slow. Work all week on offensive set-pieces and carry on with those cheeky blocks.

I think Dyche will pick the same side. 1-0 to the mighty Blues.

It's a free hit, so why not?

Dan Murphy
18 Posted 06/12/2024 at 04:21:23
You sit deep, way goal side of Salah against the long ball out fit. Dyche knows. Sorry to disappoint all the ‘get at them' types.

Leave 2 up. ‘Trent' will already be seeing Ndiaye receiving in space and driving in his sleep. Gonna be good. COYB!

Phil Sammon
19 Posted 06/12/2024 at 04:38:24
I think if we ‘go for it' we get murdered.

I particularly don't want to see Mykolenko bombing forward. He's barely an attacking threat anyway and we cannot afford to let Salah have space in behind.

I hope I don't go into too many more derbies feeling this negatively.

Nigel Scowen
20 Posted 06/12/2024 at 05:15:52
Andrew,

Agree, I would start with Calvert-Lewin and then look at switching to Broja, for the second half depending on how it's going, keep the bastards guessing and Broja is an unknown quantity for them. Let Calvert-Lewin put the hard yards in initially and soften the bastards up a bit.

McNeil and Ndiaye just behind them with a solid midfield of Gana, Mangala and (unfortunately at the moment) Doucoure.

Coleman at right-back for this one with Young moving to the left. Tarkowski and Branthwaite in the centre. Pickford in goal.

Bastards!!!!

Andy Mead
21 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:20:20
I can't see any changes, even though I'd swap Doucoure out for just about anyone. Maybe move McNeil inside and Patterson or Harrison out wide?

Hopefully get a draw as they are on fire atm. You never know though!

Ian Jones
22 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:22:25
It would be amazing to win the last derby at Goodison and the first time for a long time that I can remember winning both derby matches in a calendar year...

The incoming storm could make it an interesting game.

I'd settle for a 2-0 win.

Derek Thomas
23 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:39:16
Everton haven't changed much since last season, nor really, have Liverpool, and we all know Dyche isn't big on changing anything. Hopefully He'll stick with what worked last time.

The more minutes Broja has on the field, the less the venerable Virgil St Bader will like it.

Please God, I don't ask for much, just 1 win afore we go.

Jerome Shields
24 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:42:16
Everton would be better to go back to Dycheball and hope the experiments of Dyche in the last three games have improved the attack.Mangala to start alongside Gueye is essential.Doning something about Myrolenko would improve things.Doucoure is a problem.

No gungho Sean.I beg you.

Terry Farrell
25 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:14:06
Start the same team. Myko 'touch wood' will continue his excellent marking of salah in derbies but it won't be easy. Young who will be playing his 3rd match in 8 days and has been great lately needs to stay calm against Diaz who has ripped him to bits a few times. Vvd hates playing against Dom and konate his enforcer is out so that is our route in behind them. Coyb
Rob Hooton
26 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:22:34
I’ve got a funny feeling that the much maligned Doucoure (including by me, often) is going to win it for us tomorrow, whether he scores one or a brace is beyond my power of foresight.

Dyche will be dreaming of a Manager of the Month award, after a terrible start.

Liverpool will lose the league at Goodison Park, again!

I’m obviously feeling a lot better about this than I was 48 hours ago, I’d be happy with a point and over the moon with 3. If you can’t hope and dream then what’s the point?

Everton 2 - Liverpool 1. COYBB!!!

Paul Ferry
27 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:33:30
Ian Jones 2 - I'd settle for a 2 nil win.

That's magnanimous of you Ian!

Kunal Desai
28 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:41:42
They have conceded 7 goals in there last 3 away league games so they are there to be got at with a very shaky defence.
Derek Dolan
29 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:50:32
Unfortunately weather conditions will be horrendous. Severe gusts of 70mph and rain means that anything is likely to happen. Small chance of a postponement likely as well.
Ian Jones
30 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:53:40
Paul, I was initially going with 3 nil, but thought I'd be fair to the reds.
Rob Hooton
31 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:56:08
Ian, it probably would be 3-0 if VAR won’t disallow one of our goals because Saint Virgil tripped over his shoelaces, or something like that.
Laurie Hartley
32 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:05:11
Rob # 5 - I agree with you about Doucoure. He is a fighter and is due a goal.
Paul Ferry
33 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:06:03
Rob's right Ian, but so were you at first. 2-0 it is. The wily veteran Hooton 2 goals; the young kid on the right wing Jones, 2 assists. Fuck you can put in a cross Ian.
Kim Vivian
34 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:13:39
I got it right on Wednesday but not jumping in on this one.

If we can get a draw, that will be 4 of the 7 points at least I hoped we would manage in December. I'd take that at this point – the draw that is.

Also pegs them back a bit.

Ian Jones
35 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:22:14
Paul, I am two-footed, so can cross with both feet.

And take Van Dijk out at rhe same time.

Paul Ferry
36 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:30:22
I'd go with:

Pickford Young Tarkowski Branthwaite Mylolenko Mangala Gana Ndiaye McNeil Jones Calvert-Lewin

Craig Walker
37 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:01:58
Hate these games.

Holding on to the hope that sometimes we do better against them when the gap between us is at its widest.

Neil Lawson
38 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:03:43
Jones? Presumably that's anyone but Doucouré? I think you can bet your house on the same starting XI as Wednesday.

There appears to be a degree of optimism amongst posters. Stop it. That's dangerous. Fear the worst and hope for the best. It's less painful.

I learnt on my recent stadium tour that it is dead level between us and the Redshite in derbies at Goodison, so we can not lose, as history will be changed. Maybe the weather will be our divine intervention and Jordan will win it in injury time with a wind-assisted hoof downfield.

Ian Jones
39 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:07:23
Neil, I think Paul has drafted me in to the team. :)

I am travelling up to Wales today, didn't bring my boots. Didn't think I'd be needed.

Colin Crooks
40 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:13:15
Doucouré? … Interesting, Rob.

My first thought when I read that was that he should be nowhere near the team on Saturday, but then I gave it a bit more thought. We won't out-football this shower. We have to out-fight them. Out-think them. Just like we did in April. Doucouré is one of several much-maligned players I personally would go with for this one.

I'd go with Mykolenko because he did well against Salah.

I would go with the hopelessly out-of-form Tarkowski. I'm certain I saw signs of his old self the way he was dishing out the bollockings on Wednesday.

I'd go with Calvert-Lewin because he battered St Virgil last time out and the cocky bastard will not fancy more of the same.

I would maintain the intensity by introducing Broja for Calvert-Lewin to batter him some more on around 65 minutes.

Finally, I would introduce premature eJack Harrison (I know, I know) but he was great against rat boy Robertson in April and he won't be found wanting for effort when everybody else is blowing out of their arses. Not everyone's idea of our best players, but I'm thinking horses for courses.

I'm disappointed that it's an early kick-off. The Old Lady sounds a whole lot more raucous when the faithful have had a bevy, but we have to address that.

Look, we all know who the favourites are and we know why, but they can deffo be rattled. We know that too.

Christopher Timmins
41 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:19:43
Given closeness to Wednesday, maybe we should freshen it up a little, though the options are not great, maybe Coleman and Harrison.

Keep it tight, turn it into a war… and you never know.

Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:25:20
Harrison struggles, Lindstrøm is struggling badly, and Ndiaye is better on the left (please try and isolate him with the only first-named footballer in England, tomorrow) or centrally.

It really is a no-brainer for me because I believe Doucouré should be played on the right side because of his prodigious work rate.

Ian Jones
43 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:27:10
Neil, that's interesting about the head-to-head at Goodison Park. Assumed Liverpool would have been over the hill in terms of victories.

I always tell a friend who is a red that we have generally taken it easy against our second team. Doesn't go down well.

As for the optimistic comments. Why not. They are there to be beaten.

Barry Rathbone
44 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:38:09
I have ignored derby games for decades, the monumental gulf in ability and calamitous record make it an "anything but football" day. All it does is expose how far we have fallen and how dominant they have become.

10 seconds to check the result and see if the highlights are worth watching before back to normality relatively unscathed. Masochism isn't for me.

The only hope is the RS turn up half asleep and we go at 'em full chat… yummy yummy.

Derek Knox
45 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:39:19
I'm never happy seeing Doucouré in any side, and I just can't understand his automatic inclusion. He does score about once every 20 months, let's hope tomorrow he makes up for lost time, and repays that misplaced loyalty in his inclusions.

I hope to see Broja at some point too, it was evident to everybody he made a difference after his 'too late' substitution.

Those two good chances spurned by the hapless Kack Harrison, the tea lady would have buried both, another player who will run all day and produce zilch. In all fairness (yes, you heard right), he made some sort of reputation as being a decent player when at Leeds, by playing on the right. Dyche, as he does with many others, always plays him out of position, why?

I hope the old adage of "the form book goes out of the window in a derby match" applies tomorrow. And, we get a fair refereeing and VAR for the inevitable controversies that always seem to surface in these fixtures.

To quote Kevin Keegan (sorry folks) "I would just love it if we beat these tomorrow! :-)

Ernie Baywood
46 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:58:32
Doucoure works hard but surely we can find an option at the attacking point of the midfield that can both work hard and control a football? McNeil grafts, Ndiaye grafts, Harrison grafts.

Mykolenko is a slightly different case. In most matches, I'd want to see him on the bench but you can make a case for him in this game, given our likely tactics – defence sits deep, defensive midfield keeps shape, 2 of the other 4 chase while 2 fill in.

You can't have a go at teams if your full-backs stay home.

Mal van Schaick
47 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:59:43
I can't fault Doucoures effort, but his passing and shooting was dire against Wolves. However, I am happy to give him the benefit of the doubt and play him on Saturday, given Dyche should have pointed out his misgivings.

A win in the current circumstances and run of games would be the order of the day as it is maybe our last home derby match at Goodison Park.

One other observation: Oliver is referee and Kavanagh VAR, and they could be game spoilers.

Danny O'Neill
48 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:11:30
Never go into these fixtures fearing them. All good runs come to an end and they can be beaten.

Colin @19, I agree on the early kick-off, but there is a work around. The several Spoons in town and the one on County Road. Wetherspoons are licences to serve from 9 am!!

Rob Hooton
49 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:12:11
Colin, 19. I also saw signs of a rejuvenated Tarkowski, after a shaky start (caught wrong side early on for a Wolves chance) on Wednesday.

We really need our ‘warrior' Tarkowski back on form, he was one of my favourite players last season. As a former centre back myself, I like the way he puts himself about – often with a smile on his face.

I would love to see plenty of blue smiles tomorrow, I don't expect us to win but you never know.

Raymond Fox
50 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:18:43
Well done, Derek, we win 4-0 and you choose to slate two of our players and the manager for a late substitution.

Good job we didn't lose the game!

Brian Harrison
51 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:20:13
I think our biggest worry tomorrow isn't them, it's Michael Oliver refereeing.

You can just see him awarding a penalty if anyone so much as breathes heavily on Saleh.

Rennie Smith
52 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:28:04
It's the last time we let that kopite shite in the Old Lady… I hope we send them back to Norway gutted but I doubt it will happen.

Our only chance is to get in their faces (I expect Young and Doucoure to be booked in the first 20 minutes), and if we press, it has to be as a team, not just headless chickens.

It will be a travesty if Dyche asks them all to stand-off and defend that fucking V and we get battered; if he does, he'll spoil our lasting memories of derbies.

Rennie Smith
53 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:31:54
Raymond #29, if you think the Wolves game is a corner turned,d then I'd advise you to look away tomorrow.

I'm all for being positive, especially before a game like this, but the reality is we were gifted that win and it will be a different world tomorrow.

Ian Jones
54 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:33:55
Just had a thought that, after our home derby tomorrow, the next home derby at the new stadium could be 2026... as sometimes the home and away Derbies are held in the same calendar year.
Raymond Fox
55 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:37:18
I'm all for criticism, Rennie, but it's relentless too much of the time.

They are flying and you would have to think we will need to score one or two goals to get anything from the game.

We did it last season against the odds, so why not?

We can't sit back for 90 minutes though.

Derek Knox
56 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:13:33
Raymond, You say, "I'm all for criticism … but it's relentless too much of the time"?

While I agree, some posters do emphasise certain points repeatedly, however, this is a forum where posters are entitled to express their beliefs. Whether you agree or disagree, doesn't or shouldn't preclude them from doing so. If it irritates you that much, just skip and read the next post or posts.

I consider myself to be generally positive, pre-match, but our performances of late, with the exception of Wednesday, haven't left a lot to be optimistic about. I genuinely believe Doucoure is a very over-rated player (my opinion); as for the manager, I can't understand his team selections, tactics and substitutions on most occasions… again I believe I am entitled to express that.

I am not alone in both of those observations either, not that I am jumping on any bandwagon, but I express what I feel personally. Getting back to Wednesday, I couldn't believe that result. While not taking anything away from the players, it didn't reflect how good we were but rather how poor Wolves were on the night, and shouldn't be used as any yardstick for tomorrow.

I hope and pray (genuinely) that we get something, preferably a win in the last derby match at Goodison Park… but everything has to go for us, for a change, for that to happen.

Gary Mortimer
57 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:41:32
Derek @35, I agree 100%.

There are always posters who are either "too happy clappy" or "doom mongers", but they always have the right to post - especially if they can back up their opinions with reasoned arguments.

I also think that whatever people post before or during the match on the Live Forum, does not impact the game in any way whatsoever.

I am always pessimistic before a game, a feeling based on Everton's very consistent ability to disappoint the fans. After every good performance, when we should expect the team to "push on", they always find a way to mess it up.

Just because I no longer expect the team to get a positive result, does not mean I won't be there tomorrow cheering the team on and shouting at the ref, the cheating kopites, and at Dyche when he's holding his 60-minute conflabs with Woany and doing nothing to freshen things up.

"Prepare for the worst, hope for the best" has been mentioned before and it's been definitely a far more healthy state of mind over the last few years.

Jim Bennings
58 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:46:04
Beat VAR then you beat them.

Stop Saleh then you stop them.

Get to it.

Brian Wilkinson
59 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:46:23
So here it is, Merry Xmas
Evertonians having fun

That's as far as I've got :-)

Oh well… our last ever League derby at Goodison coming up and, for whatever reason, I always believe we can get stuck right into them and get a result. I don't know what it is but fear seems to get taken over by just how much I despise them across the park, it's like something has taken over all reasoning and thoughts of getting beat by them.

We have seen these last few weeks the media creaming their pants over the love-in of their lead at the top, I am sure many of you have seen fans crawl out of the woodwork with 'Champions' all over social media and texts, all the premature celebrations by them.

We need to win tomorrow, our last league derby here, both level on wins at Goodison in the league, a chance to end it with winning more league derbies at Goodison that will remain forever.

We need to do it for the sake of football, the thought of them lifting the title is something we have to stop, but most of all we need to win it for ourselves, bid farewell one final time at the Old Lady with a victory.

If we can get close to a Bayern Munich atmosphere tomorrow, they will shit themselves and freeze like they did last season. Get right in their faces again, we have to be spot on with our set pieces. They will struggle to deal with our aerial bombardment. Let's not look at what they have, let's look at what we have, the 12th man, the Old Lady shaking to her roots, it's our last chance to sing our hearts out at a derby here.

The more you worry about what they have, the more you will convince yourself of losing; it's 11 v 11 tomorrow, focus on our strengths and believe.

Up the Toffees.

Stu Gre
60 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:52:18
This is important. Both Everton and Liverpool have 41 wins apiece at Goodison. Lose it and they will forever have a better record than us at the Grand Old Lady.

Please can we just have one piece of luck to make sure that doesn't happen?

Jim Wilson
61 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:00:12
Red Cartel team expecting a trophy.

Masters's 'Yes-man' referee Oliver a nap'; "Does what he is told" weak Kavanagh on VAR. All you need to know.

No miss-timed tackles or it's instant red and, if we score, make sure our other nine outfield players are in our half.

Ian Jones
62 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:01:51
Jim, score more goals than them and you beat them.
Gary Mortimer
63 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:02:29
With the wind predicted to be so strong, it's going to be a battle of hoof ball.

Liverpool's hoof ball (called pinpoint long passing by the media) vs Dyche's "Get Rid!!!!"

Just as long as Sallah is marked every time they hoof it to him, it'll negate a lot of their threat.

Raymond Fox
65 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:08:37
Don't take any notice of me, Derek @35, but I do wish there was little more praise on the site. I know it's been difficult lately.

I'm a born moaner on politics, the country and most other things, but I try my best not to slate individual players or believe, it or not, the manager.

Joe Hurst
66 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:11:41
Ah, time to face “The Shite”!

(It's always a little better after a 4-0 win!)

Jim Wilson
67 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:14:47
My hope is that Mangala and Gueye will give them more than a game in midfield but they need to be careful with every single tackle with the corrupt Oliver out there.

Salah should be man-to-man marked.

Liam Mogan
68 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:21:20
65 mph winds forecast for tomorrow.

I'm hoping that this will be a bit of a leveller and the game will become one of attrition and bottle.

Derek Knox
69 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:25:41
Thanks Raymond @ 43, I almost skipped your post there ! :-)

Seriously mate, we are all anxious and frustrated in equal measure, because of 30-odd years of mismanagement, and let's face it, too few encouraging performances, regardless of who the manager is/was.

At the end of the day, we are all singing from the same hymn sheets, just that some of us are on different pages to everyone else. :-)

Rennie Smith
70 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:27:57
I can see Pickford scoring direct from a clearance with that wind!
Alan J Thompson
71 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:28:25
I've always thought that Mykolenko does well against Salah as he knows Salah only uses his left foot cutting in from the right.
Nigel Scowen
72 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:29:27
How funny would that be, Rennie?
Brian Wilkinson
73 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:31:26
If there is a god, he will make sure St Virgil bangs one in his own net.

Could not happen to a better person.

Rennie Smith
74 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:32:19
Oliver would probably disallow it for the ball being off the ground for too long…
Andy Crooks
75 Posted 06/12/2024 at 13:04:03
Colin Crooks @19, I totally agree (we must be related!); I would like us to win this one, perhaps more than any derby ever. If it happens, it will be quirky, with controversy.

The team that wins this match for us will not be our best eleven; it will be a one off. Time for heroes to step forward.

I'd start Patterson, he will be up for it and they will hate him.

Mike Owen
76 Posted 06/12/2024 at 13:10:09
I wish it was better known that our opponents tomorrow (Saturday) have around £400M more rolling into their coffers … each year. Their latest annual turnover was £594M. Ours was £172M. That's more than treble.

As Evertonians, we live our lives seeing ourselves as being every bit as good as our near neighbours. But, due to this huge financial disparity, we can't go shopping for players in the same markets as them.

If this £400million difference was more widely known, it might take some pressure of our players.

This financial gulf is nothing new, of course. I believe I am correct in saying that around 20 years ago, their annual revenue was approximately double. Since then, the gap has increased.

Each year, the boys in blue need our support more and more. UTFT.

John Hall
77 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:00:08
LiVARpool are coming tomorrow (the second team in the city :)) so we'd better give them a good pummeling!! COYB!!
Danny O'Neill
78 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:05:33
I've just read that there is the possibility it could be postponed.
Rob Halligan
79 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:13:48
Brian #51…

If there is a god, then that shithouse Virgin van Shite will be sent off after his first cynical challenge on Calvert-Lewin, or whoever is up front.

Closely followed by Trent Arnold after he brings Ndiaye down for the umpteenth time after being skinned by him.

Paul Kossoff
80 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:25:41
I hate them with all my heart, always will. When they play, it's not XI v XI, it's them plus the ref, two linesmen and then VAR to contend with.

Even a point tomorrow will be great. Coyb.

Danny O'Neill
81 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:34:00
I thought the same, Derek. Travel arrangements and hotels. Let's hope it goes ahead.

Rob, alternatively, Van Dijk catches Calvert-Lewin on the shin somewhere between the ankle and the shin. The ref waves play on and pats Virgil on the back, giving him a wink and a nod!!!

Derek Knox
82 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:38:32
Danny @ 60, "giving him a wink and a nod"!!!

I had to read that twice, mate, I thought it more realistically said something else! :-)

Joe McMahon
83 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:55:10
It's a pity it's not at Anfield really, as he stadium would be half-empty, with flights cancelled and travel from Devon and Cornwall more or less impossible.
Rob Halligan
84 Posted 06/12/2024 at 15:03:10
Remember Steve who was in Talksport on Wednesday before the Wolves game? He’s been on again this morning…………💙💙💙

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XfVGP1zgv_A

Justin Doone
85 Posted 06/12/2024 at 15:59:26
Any points from this game is a positive no matter how they arrive.

I'll keep any negatives thoughts and comments to myself.

Also get the feeling an FA Cup meeting against 'them" is in the cards for a final Goodison derby.

Mike Gaynes
86 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:33:42
Storm Darragh? That's colorful.

Here they call a winter storm like that a "bomb cyclone" but they won't give it a name.

Meanwhile, from the Travesty Department, Leo Messi has been named MLS MVP despite having played only 48% of the available minutes this season, and appearing in only 19 of 34 games.

I guess in this case MVP stands for Most Voluminous Profitmaker, since he trebled Inter Miami's annual revenue and significantly increased MLS attendance.

Edward Rogers
87 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:41:47
In two minds here. would it be an advantage to us if it gets postponed and be rearranged as an evening kick off, or would the forecast dodgy weather be a leveller?
Colin Crooks
88 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:42:16
Rob 65

Nice one putting that one up. I'd missed it. Steve was brilliant. McCoist was getting paid for nothing as our boy entertained the nation. Cracking call.

Andy 53

We may be related somewhere down the line, but if we're not, we're still deffo a pair of Crooks - Thought I'd get that in before Derek Knox came along and beat me to it

Eddie Dunn
90 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:54:53
The forecast looks dodgy and the game will be called off if it looks like slates or roofsheets could go flying.
If it goes ahead the terrible conditions might be a leveller.
However my main worry is that Salah is in great form and our Myko is struggling.
I don't think the Shite are as good as some believe and we proved last time they visited that we can raise our game.
Jimmy Carr
91 Posted 06/12/2024 at 17:00:24
We need to get straight into them from the get-go and treat it like Custer's Last Stand, or something. No fannying around this time, don't show them too much respect and don't be scared to hoof it long when required, take every opportunity to intimidate, get at the goalkeeper, get at the fourth official, ring Pickford's Van Removals, channel the spirits of the Holy Trinity, summon the Norse Gods, tackle scraps of paper, and try to wreak bloody havoc.

McNeill to whip a few set-pieces into the box and pile everyone in from there. I'm optimistic for at least one goal from a free-kick or corner after Wednesday's showing.

We can beat them if the attitude is right and Goodison is fired up early doors.

COYB!

Kevin Edward
92 Posted 06/12/2024 at 19:47:46
I'm not scared of them, bring ‘em on.

There's nothing that scares the shite out of them more than losing to us. They can say what they like and play it down, the city is ours and we shall not be moved.

Hope it's a bit windy and we grind out a point, or 3. Or they can come back again later and we'll be waiting for them.

We'll be up against all the odds, as usual. Up the Toffees!

Paul Ferry
93 Posted 06/12/2024 at 19:48:17
Some memories here, I wish that they had not included 6 November 1982.

Goodbye Goodison: six classic Merseyside derbies at Everton’s evocative home

Sadly, for those wonderful lads from Australia and California, it would be public endangerment to let this game go ahead.

Andy Crooks
94 Posted 06/12/2024 at 20:09:33
Eddie @68. I don't rate Mykolenko.

However, Salah being in great form and Mykolenko not, is just the sort of quirk that makes me think we will win.

Paul Kernot
95 Posted 06/12/2024 at 20:28:20
Brian #38. Look to the future mate. It's only just begun u un.
Andy Meighan
96 Posted 06/12/2024 at 21:26:39
Kunal 9.

Funnily enough I was saying the same thing about them to my mate last night in work.

They look to be suspect from set pieces and there's one avenue where we could go down.

That said they're not top of the pile for nothing so it's going to be difficult but aren't they all for us?

Feel quite calm the night before a derby which is an unusual feeling for me so hope that's a good sign, probably the kiss of death then.

Just want it over and done with and hope with it being the last derby FA Cup permitting we make a fist of it.

Clive Lewis
97 Posted 06/12/2024 at 21:32:01
Its always been a passion of mine for the new chant what you think

From scarborough fair simon and garfunkel

Are you going to bramley moore

Mangala Oneil Broja and Gueye

remember us the reds who live there

our support will never subside

should I fetch me coat?

Brian Williams
98 Posted 06/12/2024 at 21:34:43
No Clive.

I'll get it for you.

Andy Crooks
99 Posted 06/12/2024 at 22:18:27
No point, Brian, Cliff's coat was nicked. Apparently he had a few more "chants" in the pocket!!
Neil Lawson
100 Posted 06/12/2024 at 22:24:35
Joe 61. As an exiled Crosby blue living near Exeter, I take exception to your suggestion that Redshite supporters are in Devon and Cornwall and will struggle to get to the game. They aren't many here thank goodness. They are all in Surrey and the South East and will be warming up their 4 wheel drives and Chelsea tractors as we write.
Brendan McLaughlin
101 Posted 06/12/2024 at 22:42:33
Brian #38

Are you hanging up your blue scarf on the wall

Do you remember the red head Alan Ball

Do the derby's still destroy you

Yes there's been a few

And now Darragh's gonna save the Red's from the screw

So here it is Merry Christmas

Evertonians having fun

Look to the future

But remember Alex Iwobi

Lost it a bit towards the end to be honest..

Colin Glassar
102 Posted 06/12/2024 at 23:02:43
Tomorrow will be a washout
Paul Ferry
103 Posted 06/12/2024 at 23:05:03
Clive mate, 75, it's awful.

'The reds who live there' in syntax can only refer to living in BMD. Broja and Gueye are unlikly to be with us next August. You can't have 'subside' in a footy song, unless you mean that the stadium will subside. Subside does not rhyme with Gueye.

Now, you could recycle/reword and direct it to Dyche

Are you going to Bramley Moore,
Dychey, Stonesy, Woaney and co.?
The grass, the smell, the story says no
Coz most of us just want you to go.

Mike Gaynes
104 Posted 06/12/2024 at 23:47:20
Jimmy #69, I'm right with you, but keep in mind that Custer's Last Stand didn't turn out too well for the underdogs. The Little Big Horn Derby ended 268-99 for the Sioux, and it wasn't that close.

And the MotM was female, Buffalo Calf Road Woman, who knocked Custer off his horse. If they'd had VAR, it would have been called a foul, but it didn't matter to the outcome.

Don Alexander
105 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:15:04
The game is going to be played in very strong wind indeed, with heavy rain, and a bent ref, linesmen, VAR and media too.

So it all augers well for us not to be absolutely hammered!

......... If, yer know, yer (Kenwright delivered) 'istory that is.

Ernie Baywood
106 Posted 07/12/2024 at 03:57:12
I'm never too sure about the weather being a 'leveller'. It might be true on cabbage patch pitches, but in my experience it's players with better skills who prevail in tougher conditions. Can you imagine Doucoure trying to control the ball in the wind?

I was thinking about my own Derby memories. With the exception of Royle's first game and the Kanchelskis Derby at Anfield, I don't think the abiding memory has ever really been the performance, more the big moments... and generally when it was heartbreaking or embarrassing to one or the other.

Cadamarteri catching out Kvarme, Mcmanaman and Grobelaar fighting, Reina throwing the ball to Johnson.

Unfortunately we've done a better job of losing in heartbreaking circumstances. McAllister, The Dijk / Pickford / Origi mess, Mane.

And of course when we had our chance to inflict a comically embarrassing last minute defeat, Graham Poll ruled it out (or blew the final whistle as the ball rolled towards the net).

So I'm hoping for us to win in the most comical, embarrassing, humiliating way possible to preserve the memory of the last Goodison Derby. I'm thinking Dick van Dyke injury time OG, Pickford goal kick sails on the wind kind of stuff. And Steven Gerrard steps in dog shit in his way home.

Bitter? Absolutely. And Derby Day lasts about 20 hours for me.

COYB.

Colin Crooks
107 Posted 07/12/2024 at 06:17:46
Clever lyrics Clive, Brendan and Paul. All obvious musicians. Mines a bit more basic.

Dychie had a dream.
To build a long ball team
With a ten in our half
He left his striker alone

With big Tarks at the back
He didnt think to attack
He might keep us up
But he'll still get the sack

Jim Bennings
108 Posted 07/12/2024 at 06:23:41
Having just woke up and thought I'd landed on the wicked witch of the east such is the nature of the winds here, I can't see this game today going ahead.

I expect announcement around 8 or 9am that it's been postponed.

James Hughes
109 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:03:52
Just leaving for Liverpool now, wish me luck and to all making the trip…
Paul Ferry
110 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:04:58
Jim. 87, has anyone at either club looked at the potential damage to people and things in an amber storm warning?

Anyone merely travelling to the game has a legal case if they get injured after the clubs authorised the game. Any decent silk will milk that.

Put people first, you fucking knobheads.

Paul Ferry
111 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:05:38
Best wishes JH.
Nigel Scowen
112 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:05:49
Good luck James take it easy pal
Nigel Scowen
113 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:12:38
I fail to see how this can go ahead, the weather where I am is unbelievable and Liverpool is worse. The dog has literally not settled all night due to the wind and rain.

I agree, Paul, the risk to people travelling is too great.

Colin Glassar
114 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:18:32
Is your dog playing today, Nigel?
Jim Bennings
115 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:20:36
Not sure, Paul.

I remember high winds being a reason that the Everton v Crystal Palace game was called off in 2014.

I didn't leave the house that night after humming and arrghing for a while, I hadn't missed a home game in 15 years at that point but I made the decision not to go, and about 20 minutes after that they called it off, but only after many fans were already in the stadium.

I'd like to think if this game is being postponed the sensible thing would be make the announcement before 8:30 am.

Mark Murphy
116 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:21:18
My wife couldn't settle all night due to the wind so I made her sleep on the couch. I told her that late chilli was a bad idea.
UTFT
Paul Ferry
117 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:22:08
Really feel for the Australian and Californian lads who we have heard about on here Nigel. JH is on the way, Danny, the south-west coach, all badly let down by the commercial cash crones who run both clubs who put profit before people.

How far is The Old Lady from Wales and all of Wales is under a red warning? I can see Wales from Crosby beach.

Nigel Scowen
118 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:24:56
Ha Colin, no too old for this one.

He's been howling at the wind all night, like that scene from The Omen where the Rottweiler goes mental with the second birth of Christ.

Paul Ferry
119 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:27:30
Christ has been born a second time? I needed to know about that in my lapsed catholic state.
Mark Murphy
120 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:28:02
Police were due to meet at 0900 to discuss calling it off.

Now meeting at 0800 — LCC want it postponed.

Colin Glassar
121 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:28:07
I imagine the ref will let Saint Virge and co. decide if the game goes ahead or not.
Nigel Scowen
122 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:28:10
Mark@95 😂🤣
Paul Ferry
123 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:31:19
Well, I need to know if its gonna be called off as it's 5 hours from kick off at 630AM and I'm drinking dry white, reading a biography of Monet, listening to top piano jazz, and wondering if I need to set the alarm.

PUT PEOPLE FIRST

Nigel Scowen
124 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:31:34
Missus, internet and electricity down.

Rob Halligan
125 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:32:00
An amber weather warning has been issued for Merseyside as strong winds are set to hit the region. The weather warning was upgraded from yellow to amber from 1am today (December 7) until 9pm tonight as Storm Darragh moves from west to east.

The amber weather warning covers all of Merseyside, including Liverpool, Wirral, Sefton, Knowsley and St Helens. Gusts of 60mph to 70mph are predicted for the region, with the strongest winds predicted for the afternoon.

Paul Ferry
126 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:33:12
Take care of yourself Rob mate.
Paul Ferry
127 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:34:17
Pleased for you that the missus is down Nigel. When did that last happen?
Rob Halligan
128 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:36:31
Paul, if the game is off, I’m not moving from the house. Will sit in front of the fire all day!
Colin Glassar
129 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:38:43
Can’t this game be pushed back to Monday?
Paul Ferry
130 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:38:45
... and a few cans, I hope Rob.

Rob, a big part of me wants this shite scum under the lights in April, but I haven't paid money or left the house to go to the match.

Nigel Scowen
131 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:39:56
Easy Tiger 🤣
Rob Halligan
132 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:42:08
Deffo, Paul. Will have to wait until 10pm tonight though for some live sports action, as the England cricket team muller the Kiwis.
Ernie Baywood
133 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:43:12
If the Met Office advise people should avoid non-essential travel amid a 'danger to life' event, it's hard to see how any official would say "Nah, should be okay".

The odds of this going ahead would be huge, surely?

In terms of timing of an announcement... what don't they know now, that they might know later?

Rob Halligan
134 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:46:29
Colin, in a word……..No!
Paul Ferry
135 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:46:36
4PM for me Rob. I love watching/listening to the test match down under and coverag ends around 11-30 Chicago time.

This team without at present its best pace bowlers will murder the fucking kopite Ozzies this time next year.

What test team has ever batted down to number 10 sake .....

Ernie Baywood
136 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:48:37
Does anyone remember the Anfield Derby in the 90s that was postponed due to rain. We were waiting to go in - my memory is that they only pushed it by a few days to midweek. Or am I mis-remembering?
Paul Ferry
137 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:51:14
We need DCL/Broja to get an Atkinson under the lights against Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini's favourite team next April.

Mind you, Ghaddafi supported us.

Rob Halligan
138 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:52:34
Not really sure if Carse or Bashir can bat, but certainly down to number nine, the batting is strong with the current team. Carse is some bowler though, and along with Mark Wood, currently missing from the squad, those two can be the new Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad.
Paul Ferry
139 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:53:42
Love these highlights RH. A great day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNPno7HoMps

Paul Ferry
140 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:55:07
BBC reporting that planes over the North Sea have been instructed to turn round and head back to Bergen, Trondheim, and Oslo.
Paul Ferry
141 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:56:29
Archer still has a point to prove, Rob.
Mike Connolly
142 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:58:20
Aintree racing has been called off.

I haven't moved out of the house but sounds bad ouitside.

Rob Halligan
143 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:01:12
Some flights to and from Liverpool Airport have been cancelled, though only to / from Dublin and the IOM.
Andy Meighan
144 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:01:34
Yes Ernie remember that well.

Absolutely hammered it down that day, I was just about to leave the pub to go the ground when someone told us it was off.

Not sure if it was played a few days later but I do remember when it was played we drew 1-all, the late great Gary Speed scoring for us, and Dave Watson nearly got a winner a couple of minutes later.

Paul Ferry
145 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:02:22
Imagine the turbulence.
Eddie Dunn
146 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:11:17
I'm in West Wales and the place is in a vortex. Power on and off all night, half the village off this morning.

If it's even close to this, it would be madness to go out in it.

Rob Halligan
147 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:23:31
If this game does go ahead, then the one thing we can guarantee is that it will be under the Goodison Lights!

I've just opened the blinds in the bedroom and it's dark as hell outside.

Mike Connolly
148 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:24:29
It's off!
Paul Ferry
149 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:26:29
Postponed, get the fire going Rob. ...

We'll murder these scummy tramps under the lights next year!

Paul Ferry
150 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:33:56
Imagine all those Norwegians in the air right now…

"Strom, Aksel, Jakob, it's off.. but we can still go to the mega-store, right!" 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

Ernie Baywood
151 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:35:13
The Athletic reporting it is off
Danny O'Neill
152 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:35:25
It's the west coast of Wales, Paul, closest to Crosby would be Anglesey.

If they're going to have 12:30 kick-offs, presumably to stop supporters getting drunk.

No news yet, so I'm assuming it's going ahead.

Now my decision, whether to sit at home or go out to be surrounded by London reds in the local. My only back up will be the manager, who is a life-long Manchester City supporter and despises Liverpool.

Stay safe everyone. We're okay down here. The trees are barely moving. We will just get a bit of rain.

Nigel, if it's raining, my dog refuses to move when I open the door. When I do get her into the park, she sits down in protest!!

Just seen the Bobble is reporting it's been postponed. Let's wait for an official statement.

Robert Leigh
153 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:36:42
It’s off
Ernie Baywood
154 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:38:10
Now official from the club.
Paul Ferry
155 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:38:32
EFC Twitter:

Today's Merseyside derby at Goodison Park has been postponed due to adverse weather conditions.

Paul Ferry
156 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:41:41
My heart goes out to those Sydney and San Francisco blues we heard about on here.

Wouldn't it be nice if the club paid for all their expenses when we batter the scum shite under the lights next year.

Nigel Scowen
157 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:42:01
Danny@131

Mines a Norfolk terrier Danny, he hides under the bed.

Paul Birmingham
158 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:42:54
BBC just confirmed it's off, as the Aintree races are too.

Makes sense and hopefully get them in a midweek night game next year, and make it a night to remember!

Danny O'Neill
159 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:43:04
I feel for those who have travelled from afar.

I'm not sure why they didn't make an earlier decision. It's been all over the news all week.

Paul Ferry
160 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:45:54
In better news, no Salah for FPL, by far the most picked captain.
Kim Vivian
161 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:50:01
Haha - Thanks for the heads up Paul. Just had time to switch my team around.

Anyway - look on the bright side...New year, new owners, new players, new manager???

Matt Traynor
163 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:51:03
Danny #138, although weather forecasting methodology and technology has improved, with changing weather patterns it's still not an exact science. If they start calling off games too far in advance they'll be playing in June – amplifying calls to reduce the Premier League to 18 or 19 teams. (Gotta protect the European fixtures…)

Remember the famous Michael Fish prediction of the Great Storm in 1987? Although my personal favourite was the one in the US when snow didn't materialise, and the female anchor turned to the weatherman and said "Where was the 8 inches you promised me last night, Bob?" The cameraman was obviously shaking as he filmed!

Andy Meighan
164 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:52:01
820 stranded at John Lennon Airport.

Imagine all the people.

I'm here all week.

Mike Gaynes
165 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:52:37
Seems ridiculous they waited until now to call it off. But at least I don't have to get up at 4.

Paul Ferry
166 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:57:47
It is on our OS John.
Paul Ferry
167 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:58:15
MG what you doing up at 12
Paul Ferry
168 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:02:53
Everton's Premier League fixture against Liverpool, scheduled for 12.30pm (GMT) today, Saturday 7 December, has been postponed.

Following a Safety Advisory Group meeting at Goodison Park, attended by officials from both clubs, as well as representatives from Merseyside Police and Liverpool City Council this morning, it was decided that, due to the risk to safety in the local area due to strong wind gusts, and an amber severe wind warning that remains in place until 6am on Sunday, today's fixture should be postponed on safety grounds.

We apologise for the inconvenience caused and thank supporters for their understanding. Whilst we appreciate this will be deeply disappointing for supporters, the safety of fans, staff and players is of paramount importance.

Information relating to a rearranged date for the fixture will be announced in due course.

All tickets purchased for the original fixture will remain valid for the rearranged fixture.

Rokas Grajauskas
169 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:04:47
Pulled a lot of strings in the “I know a guy who knows a guy” market to create a miracle and get two tickets to the match.

Flew in yesterday from Lithuania with a mate whom I basically influenced into supporting Everton about five years ago and who has never been to Goodison Park.

The last derby, once-in-a-lifetime experience. Spent a shitload of money, but eh, what does that matter when compared to the creation of a memory that will last a lifetime?

Welp. This memory will indeed last a lifetime, but the heavens themselves have pulled some sort of a cruel joke. Absolutely devastated and shocked. Saw the storm warnings before I left Vilnius, but it couldn't have changed my plans - I was on a mission to fulfill a dream.

And now I feel like kicked in my gut. I have some big doubts whether I will be able to find the time and financial capabilities to fly here again, whenever the match is going to finally happen. What absolute bollocks, freakin' unbelievable…

John Hall
170 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:06:44
Okay, I see it now!
Kim Vivian
171 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:10:24
I'm sure many people with tickets for this game will not be able to use them for the re-arranged fixture whenever that is due to travel, personal commitments etc. Very nice to confirm tickets will remain valid but how about offering full refund of the purchase price and the ticket put up for general resale.

It might even give a few people the opportunity to actually get along. How long do they normally take to decide on a new date for the fixture when this happens for whatever reason?

Paul Ferry
172 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:10:36
So sorry, Rokas, you'll be back, and you live in a beautiful city.
Mark Murphy
173 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:28:47
Rokas, going on my recent experiences at Everton games you can still have a great day out in the pubs in Liverpool without a game of football spoiling your day! Head for Doctor Duncan’s, The Ship and Mitre, Shenanigans, The Grapes, the Philharmonic… so many…
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Martin Mason
174 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:36:48
So sorry for the fans who'd committed so much time and money to attending.
Danny O'Neill
175 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:48:12
Rokas,

As Mark says, enjoy the city. If you read the club statement, all tickets purchased remain valid for the re-arranged fixture.

Get into that savings jar and you can still attend.

Rob Halligan
176 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:53:48
Kim # 150…

I'm pretty sure the club will offer a full refund to anybody who cannot attend the re-arranged game.

Anthony Dove
177 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:55:43
I see Wigan's game at 12:30 is still on.
Nigel Scowen
179 Posted 07/12/2024 at 10:02:33
Rokas, once you experience the city, you will definitely be back!
James Hughes
180 Posted 07/12/2024 at 10:10:33
Three hours to Norton Cranes M6 toll, roads as dangerous as hell. No game.

Ah well more time with my mam and I will stay dry.

Justin Doone
181 Posted 07/12/2024 at 10:33:24
First test event for the new stadium. Major failure!
The inside is filling up like a water park. Blooming idiots who hadn't thought about rain!
Mark Andrews
182 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:01:32
Storm Darragh helped us get a result.
Brian Williams
183 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:15:33
Justin, there's been no test event yet as the stadium isn't complete.
Brian Williams
184 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:16:30
Typical Premier League:

We've been docked 6 points because the derby's been cancelled.

Jay Evans
185 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:22:06
Gutted for all the fans who have travelled a long way to get here but, let's have it right boys and girls, this is a result for us.

The 12:30 kick offs are always notoriously quiet and I include the derbies here. I genuinely can't remember the last early kick-off that wasn't.

It would have been even more morgue-like today in this weather and we need the crowd to get anywhere near the other lot as we all know.

I watched as Liverpool physically and mentally wilted in front of my eyes last time. They were well beaten and couldn't wait to get out of Goodison. Here's hoping the rearranged fixture (possibly 11/12 or 18/19 February?) is a night game.

Goodison deserves a better derby send-off than today. Darragh would have been the headline. We don't want that.

Neil Lawson
186 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:23:28
Justin 182. We are being told that the "flood" is expected because the state-of-the-art roof waterproofer capture system has not yet been connected. Hopefully it's true. <:P>I imagine Mr Dyche has mixed feelings this morning. A win and he may save himself from his likely destiny under the new owners. A loss and he may as well just pack his bags and go. A "no result" and all bets as to his future are still on.
Edward Rogers
187 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:30:04
Just noticed the BBC article re. the postponement was written by a Sean Kearns.

Is it the same Mr Kearns who contributes to these hallowed pages?

John Keating
188 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:35:40
Like many, I feel bad for the travelling supporters.

Especially the young 15-year-old lad travelled all the way from Aussie for the game.

Right decision.

Danny O'Neill
189 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:47:29
John,

The club should pay for his flights for the rearranged match.

Maybe we could ask the FAB to influence?

John Keating
190 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:01:43
Danny,

That would be great if they could do that. I know a few American lads flew over as well. Real shame.

Do you think our neighbours will help out the 2000-3000 Norwegians who flew over?

Rob Halligan
191 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:22:35
Neil # 187… that game is a Saturday with a 17:45 kick-off.

As there will no extra time in that one, all fans of both teams could be home by 20:30 at the latest. An absolute ridiculous decision to pick that game.

Ernie Baywood
192 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:37:32
Danny, you'd be surprised how many make a weekend trip from around Australia each week. And this one would obviously be bigger.

I'd assume similar for our other overseas supporters clubs.

John Keating
193 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:38:52
So it's an all-day in the pub day watching Championship footy

However, as the Everton game has been called off, I see TNT have rescheduled by showing an RS game against Villa a month ago. Not really a surprise, I suppose…

Neil Lawson
194 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:49:05
In light of the very obvious bias and favouritism towards the "big four" perhaps the game can be rescheduled for the day before or the day after Redshite play a Champions League game (preferably in Kyrgyzstan)?

It would go some way to balancing the books.

And Plymouth postponed so Rooney is also safe for another week.
John Pickles
195 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:11:09
‘Everton v Liverpool postponed, Calvert-Lewis fails to score.’ :)
Mark Murphy
196 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:14:00
Wild applause! 🤣
James Hughes
197 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:19:05
Just took Mum to the butchers in Aughton.

Bloody Phil Thompson crossed the road in front of me — I should have run him over but just parked and turned engine off.

I am not doing well today. 😕

Colin Crooks
198 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:22:37
'Knell James. You'll never get a chance like that again.
Edward Rogers
199 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:23:18
Now now John, can't be pinching other people's headlines.
Nigel Scowen
200 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:23:35
John @197,

Like it John,

James@199,

Poor, you should be ashamed of yourself, failing to take advantage of a situation like that, could have blamed it on the storm.

Brian Williams
201 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:32:18
Phil Thompson, now he IS a gobshite I tell yer.
James Hughes
202 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:50:31
Nigel, sorry and I unreservedly apologise.
Ray Roche
203 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:58:16
You could have at least clipped his snout.
Nigel Scowen
204 Posted 07/12/2024 at 17:20:58
James @204,

I'll let you off this time James, but if you ever get a chance like that again then do not hesitate 😂

Paul Ferry
205 Posted 07/12/2024 at 19:43:57
That twat's nose would have totalled James's car.
Paul Ferry
206 Posted 07/12/2024 at 19:45:29
Edward Rogers 188 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:30:04 - Just noticed the BBC article re. the postponement was written by a Sean Kearns.

Is it the same Mr Kearns who contributes to these hallowed pages?'

Absolutely 100% not Edward mate. Read any one of his posts for syntax and spelling - and he gets fck or ct into every other sentence.

Mind you, thinking again, journalists. hmmmmmmm

Christine Foster
207 Posted 07/12/2024 at 23:26:23
In the Mail, Ian Ladyman tries to capture the history, traditions and quirks of attending Everton's famous old home which they will leave next year for what he describes as "a 53,000-capacity masterpiece at Bramley-Moore Dock".

He continues: "Goodison will not migrate from the memory easily, though. It can’t. It is one of the world’s oldest purpose-built football stadiums.

"There are some things about English football that are irreplaceable and match night at an old urban stadium is one of them. The hawkers are selling ‘Farewell to Goodison’ scarves but nobody is buying them. They are not ready. Not yet."

Inside the historic but faded Goodison Park ahead of its final Merseyside derby

Terry Downes
208 Posted 08/12/2024 at 11:23:44
Turns out the real reason the game was called off yesterday was that the Red Shyte can't walk through a storm after all!
Stu Gre
209 Posted 08/12/2024 at 11:27:28
Very good, Terry.
Steve Brown
212 Posted 09/12/2024 at 05:13:21
Ernie/Laurie, spot on. It was a 50/50 challenge and Van Dijk came off worse.

It is their endless whinging about incidents like this that make supporters of other clubs despise them.

It is professional victimhood… apart from Heysel which has been erased from their memories.

Do they ever commemorate the victims of 29 May 1985? Don't think so.

Peter Mills
213 Posted 09/12/2024 at 09:04:57
Paul #236 - No offence taken!
Peter Mills
214 Posted 09/12/2024 at 14:16:50
I’m not sure where is the best place to post this, but Rob Sawyer of this parish was on BBC Radio 5 Live yesterday, talking with Colin Murray and Pat Nevin.

They were discussing the origins of the “Grand Old Team” song, tracing it back to Verdi, the Pirates of Penzance, Belfast Celtic and Glasgow Celtic, then on to Everton. As you would expect, Rob came over very well.

The programme was on at 10.30am Sunday, Rob’s contribution comes on around the 37 minute mark. It’s on BBC Sounds, maybe someone more savvy than me could add a link?

Fred Quick
215 Posted 09/12/2024 at 14:22:58
Peter @243

I've got the link, but I think you have to sign up to listen to it?

BBC Sounds Sunday 8th December

Just listening to the show, I think the links with Everton and Celtic with the half-and-half bobble hats came following Rapid Vienna ousting Celtic from the Cup Winners Cup in 1984-85:

Celtic - Rapid Vienna

Peter Mills
216 Posted 09/12/2024 at 15:10:23
Fred, you're probably right about needing to sign up to BBC Sounds. It's worth doing so if only to be able to catch up with “Sounds of the Seventies”.

I added a Celtic badge to my Everton scarf in the 1960s, and remember chants of “Celtic, Rangers” in Gwladys Street in the 70s.

I also recall singing “We don't care if we win, lose or draw” before the reference to the rs was introduced.

Paul Ferry
217 Posted 09/12/2024 at 19:31:27
Pete and others. It's really easy to listen to that show for free - and it is a good listen Pete. Murray is a red but I must confess that I have always liked him on the radio.

Just go to the 5live home page, hit schedule, go to the day you want and it's good for the whole of this screwed up world.

It's here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/schedules/bbc_radio_five_live/2024-12-08


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