Season › 2024-25 › News Coming Full Circle Lyndon Lloyd 10/01/2025 8comments | Jump to last When it comes to the prospect of David Moyes returning to his old stomping ground, context is everything and that context has shifted significantly as Everton's fortunes have eroded in the years since he departed Goodison in 2013 » Read the full article at Evertonia Reader Comments (8) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Rob Jones 1 Posted 10/01/2025 at 20:26:48 I'm 36. His Everton team, barring a magical season under Roberto Martinez, was the only prolonged period of being an Everton fan without turmoil, embarrassment or anxiety I can ever remember.Because many (understandably, I'll admit) were embittered by his exit and how he conducted himself in the market, people forget that the football between 07-13 was good (some argue less so from 11-13), we had a lot of good players, and that the only thing which stopped us from breaking the top four was our potless chairman's inability to put his hand in his pocket and fund the team to the extent we needed.Was I thrilled by his conduct as United manager? No. None of us were. But he was doing what he could for his new team, and frankly, we could have done with a bit more of that ruthlessness from his successors. It's been 12 years, and it's time to close the wound. As Paul DePodesta observed in Moneyball (the book, which was even better than the film), "morality is for fans". Moyes was doing his job.He's categorically a better manager than Sean Dyche was (thank you for your work, sir, best of luck elsewhere), and I think Moyes will do fine, if shown some grace by the fanbase. Realistically, we're at the weakest point we've been as a club since the end of Walter Smith, and we all saw what Moyes created when given time. Anthony Dwyer 2 Posted 11/01/2025 at 00:32:18 Spot on Rob John Raftery 3 Posted 11/01/2025 at 00:44:51 I agree with much of what you say Rob, though I think Ed Woodward was mainly responsible for trying to pull a fast one with the insulting and derisory bids for Baines and Fellaini. Moyes certainly has more experience in managing better players than Sean Dyche has ever had. Relative to other teams I am not sure we are in a better or worse place than we were in March 2002. Then we had strong characters such as Kevin Campbell, Alan Stubbs, David Weir, Lee Carsley, David Unsworth and Thomas Gravesen. Waiting in the wings was a promising young lad from Croxteth. Now we have Tarkowski, Pickford and a whole teams worth of players out of contract at the end of the season. There is much to be done to build a competitive squad. Paul Kernot 4 Posted 13/01/2025 at 02:40:04 Having supported the blues since my first game in the mid sixties, my memory plays tricks on me re who & when. Who signed Jagielka & Lescott at the back? I thought those two were brilliant in their day. Paul Kernot 5 Posted 13/01/2025 at 02:40:47 Having supported the blues since my first game in the mid sixties, my memory plays tricks on me re who & when. Who signed Jagielka & Lescott at the back? I thought those two were brilliant in their day. Eric Myles 6 Posted 13/01/2025 at 04:57:21 Oh no, not another thread to trot out the same pro / anti Moyes dogma, isn't two enough? Steve Brown 7 Posted 13/01/2025 at 05:12:45 Not sure the manner of his departure is the main issue Rob? Money and ambition meant that most fans understood his decision. Many were glad to see him go.As Tony A suggested, there is an age demographic at play with the response to the announcement of David Moyes.If you are under 40, his previous tenure represents our most enjoyable, stable and successful period as a supporter. If you are over 40 and remember Everton winning trophies, his tenure is seen as one of dumbed-down expectations, stagnation and failure. In that regard, he is inextricably linked with our former Chairman in the eyes of several fans. Moyes would just say he was doing his job in tough circumstances perhaps. Derek Thomas 8 Posted 13/01/2025 at 07:23:12 He's here now for the here and now. If he gets some sort of new manager bounce going then fairplay to him.He used to have an eye for a bargin, let's hope he still does. But nobody signs 100% good buys.I hope he and Thelwell can between them can..." Ac-cent-tchu-ate the positiveE-lim-i-nate the negativeLatch on to the affirmativeDon't mess with Mr. In-Between."Sorry, had a burst of positivity and optimism there, back on message...where was I? Oh yes.The longer Moyes goes on, the more Moyes he will become. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb