The Rumour  Mill 19/03/2025 15comments  |  Jump to last

Some of the football played by Charly Alcaraz for Everton since he finally became fit enough to play has been scintillating. But many observers are monitoring exactly how many playing opportunities he is getting in the context of presumed knowledge about certain details of the loan agreement with Flamengo.

Everton reportedly have the option to make the transfer permanent at the end of the season should Alcaraz play a high threshold of games during his loan spell, although the Echo claims the the exact number has not been confirmed. The transfer fee Everton would pay for the player would reportedly be in the region of £15M.

However, Torcida Flamengo report (via Sport Witness) that, when the midfielder joined Everton on loan at the end of the January transfer window, the deal included an obligation to buy for £15M in the summer if he plays 45 minutes in at least 8 games. But it is reported that here has been increasing concern at Flamengo this won’t happen as Alcaraz has been rotated in and out by David Moyes since joining the Toffees.

Flamengo technical director Jose Bota has been speaking in an interview with journalist Venê Casagrande, in which the Alcaraz situation was discussed:

"I can't predict the future, but I'm convinced he'll stay in England," he said. "Either at Everton or at another club, because we've had enquiries from other clubs since he arrived in England. He’s an excellent player for that type of game.

"I think it's unlikely he'll return to Flamengo, because he'll certainly have a market in the Premier League. Then people say: 'He's good enough in the Premier League but not for Flamengo'. Things are not like that.

"Especially because, for me, Flamengo is much better than 70% of the teams in the Premier League. But the style of play that Flamengo has, has little to do with most of the teams in the Premier League."

This is being portrayed by a number of clickbait sites as a 'warning' to Everton about not assuming they can manipulate the situation somehow in their favour, for negotiating a lower fee. With 9 games remaining, and trusting that Alcaraz remains match fit, there appears to plenty of scope for the conditions to be either met or not met. 

 

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Paul Hewitt
1 Posted 19/03/2025 at 12:13:45
I can see us losing out to some other Premier League team on signing Alcaraz. Just pay the money now.
Dermot O'Brien
3 Posted 19/03/2025 at 12:27:17
Agree Paul, £15M is nothing for a player like him.
Alan J Thompson
4 Posted 19/03/2025 at 12:50:34
If these conditions are true then it looks like we have no confidence in our scouting dept or on any sort of expected transfer kitty and staying within PSR limits.

Or is it just Everton buying on the never-never again, similar to Beto and Chermiti?

Ian Bennett
5 Posted 19/03/2025 at 12:52:09
This is a non-story.

If he plays 45 minutes in at least 8 games...

That's not a problem, is it? He's got that in 3 games already. 5 games in 9 matches shouldn't be an issue.

Michael Kenrick
7 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:03:51
That was my thinking too when I read it, Ian.

I like him. I think he's the most exciting prospect we have so far — such a pity that late shot vs West Ham screwed wide of the goal.

Eugene Ruane
8 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:10:15
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Maybe former investment banker (rhyming slang?) Stefan Borson – bullshit football 'stories' writer and king of the 'pointless' single inverted comma – can answer some of these questions.

After all, he seems to have a fucking obsession with Everton and producing Everton-related shite.

"Real Mardid wear 'football shirts' and so do Everton" – Stefan Borson.

"Possible friction at Everton as some 'squad players' prefer extra mature Cheddar to the regular mature cheddar in their sandwiches" – Stefan Borson.

"If you combine the words 'ever' and 'ton' you get Everton, who..er...may be chased for compensation by Burnley. Or not, I don't really know tbh." - Stefan Borson.

"New Everton CEO in 'Bishop and model' sensation! Angus Kinnear recently lost a Bishop from his chess set and in the same week, made an Airfix model of a Spitfire." – Stefan Borson.

Etc, blah, waffle, ad infinitum

[What the fuck is wrong with me? Why the fuck do I look at that NewsNow link?]

Dave Abrahams
9 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:26:11
Eugene (8),

Why did you start your post with a full stop at the start of it— I'd been trying to rub it out for about five bleedin' minutes before I realised it was a punctuation mark.

Could have given my iPad a virus!

Mike Hayes
10 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:43:52
Eugene and Dave - fuckin hell!

I hope we keep him and the days of farting around with player deals is the Everton of old, he's a decent attacking player who seems to work well with Beto.

Jerome Shields
11 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:44:10
Need to play Charly ahead of Doucoure. A no brainer.

Christy Ring
12 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:49:05
Has to be Moyes's first signing in the summer window, looks a superb talent, especially for £15M.

Imagine getting him for the same price as Maupay!

Brian Williams
13 Posted 19/03/2025 at 13:55:46
Hmmm. I read after seeking more information that the required appearance number was actually six. Now whether it's six or eight is immaterial to be honest because the number refers to appearances made for the purchase to be mandatory.

Not an unusual deal really. You loan a player and if he makes x appearances you have an obligation to buy him. Now one would presume that, if he doesn't make those appearances, that Everton can still buy him at the agreed price. Or does it?

If Everton are trying to hold off on the appearances in order to try for a better, reduced price deal, it could well backfire on us.

Personally, I don't think this is the case and the story/ies going about are clickbait bullshit. I guess we'll see in due time.

Danny O'Neill
14 Posted 19/03/2025 at 14:02:47
Brian, it's 45 minutes, I hope a full 90 can count as two. And if we included added time, we could do the maths and push it over the line. Call it creative accounting!!!

Don't dither, Everton. No jibe at Moyes there, just get it done.

Tim Marchant
15 Posted 19/03/2025 at 14:09:56
As it looks like Doucouré is going at the end of the season, what advantage is there to play him over Charly Alcaraz, or Tim Iroegbunam and slow their development?

Either of them would be a more than qualified replacement for him, with the long-term gain of experience for them, and David Moyes to get more of an evaluation of the players in his squad.

Brian Williams
16 Posted 19/03/2025 at 14:26:32
Danny#14

Danny I'm hoping we're not gonna be the Everton of old and a certain amount of professionalism now exists, because if we miss out on Charlie through trying to get him on the cheap it'll be a travesty.

Jay Harris
17 Posted 19/03/2025 at 14:39:18
I think we all like the look of Charly but we don't know yet how he will fare with the physicality of the Prem over the longer term.

He certainly has talent and charisma and 15m is nothing for a player these days so he is definitely worth a gamble IMO.

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