Unsettled Heitinga could move on

I can't really understand it as he was brilliant last year and everyone who partnered him looked good too.

Here goes Johhny!!

We desperately need a central defender to partner Jags and another holding midfielder to cover Gibson.

I think is heart is no longer in it, so for £5M I'd snatch any buyer's hand off.

Seriously, his prescence in the defence makes me nervous. For a supposedly top class defender, his positional sense is often woeful.

I think we'll be lucky to get £5m for him though.

To be fair to him, it didn't matter how well he played because he was getting dropped as soon as Jags was back. That had to be a bit demoralising.
He probably needs to move on for his own sake if nothing else.

If we had a big squad I don't think Moyes would know what to do with it. He'd just piss every one off.

This spells the end. If we get our money back, or close to it we will have done ok. Good luck Jonny it could have been so much more.

Here's hoping that any income is made available to David M.

From our best player, last year to a pitiful Euro performance and now to
this!!

What a shame. But I do think it's time to sell and cash-in. He will not be missed if we get a decent fee.

No way he will leave for lesser salary so we're stuck with him. You lot make me laugh the way you think it's just a case of saying "Goodbye" ... Players go when it suits and when the money's right — not a moment sooner.

I'd take Lescott back but then that means dropping Distin. Would a better option be to just sell Heitinga, play Jags & Distin and allow Duffy some game time?

He's a quality player but we could spend those wages on someone more beneficial to the team. A centre mid or another striker for example.

That being said, he did get chances at the beginning of the year...even after the Dutch squad's defense was so awful in the Euros. For several games, Distin was on the bench and Jags/Johnny were the CBs. Unfortunately, Heitenga wasn't performing well and Moyes had to bring Distin back in. In my opinion, he seems to be getting worse since then, not better.

I completely understand if he wants to move elsewhere to get more playing time and I wish him luck. Just hope we get £5 million back.

He deserved to be subbed in his last start and if Duffy cannot be selected before him then he will not make it at the top. We must hang on to Jagielka and Baines and build our defence around those two.

I've noticed a few differences in our results of late, ie, we were playing much better and only getting draws before losing Mirallas and Fellaini and now we are having much more luck and squeaking wins???

Personally I cannot wait to get Mirallas back with Fellaini and see us return to outplaying sides comprehensively and, from now to the end of the season, have the finish from Jelavic that we have been missing. Perhaps the overturning of Gibson's red card will be the spark that brings the overdue success we have all yearned for.

I just want Moyesey to get some money during this window to add the strength to the team to get us to the finishing line. I feel this team is better suited to play against top European opposition than it was last time.

If I had a New Year's wish, it would be to have Mirallas back to full fitness so that we can upset opposition defences from both wings. With Fellaini behind Mirallas and Jelavic, I'm sure we will score enough goals. Osman blossoming and full of confidence prompting the attack and scoring a few himself. Baines and Pienaar speeding down the left and Vic on the bench as our super sub!!!

Happy New Year! 2013 could be our year!! Come on, DM, join up and stop the dithering, you could be manager of an emerging Everton team to match the 60s wonder side.
God Bless us, everyone.

We sell him for 6 or 7 million, how much of that will Moyes get to spend??

That's the bigger question, maybe 3 million and a loan player

I just don't think the money will get fully reinvested when potentially this is the most crucial transfer window in years

JH has gone off the boil but he was superb for us last year, its a shame this season hasn't worked out

Nonsense lad. And typically patronising.

Looking at last seasons second half of season stats we finished W8 D8 L3 with 32 points which if can be achieved again would give us a great chance of 4th spot.

Only Man Utd lost fewer games than us with 2 and Man City on 3. COYB

As an Everton supporter I wouldn't want him to leave, but as a Heitinga fan I think he is good enough to be playing for us. He isn't the full package, but who have we had in 10 years who was?

The way I look at it, he has a stellar season, wins the player of the season award, and is then benched for the Jags-Distin partnership pretty much from the start of the season, with a sprinkling of appearance. His partnership with Distin last season was immense, but he and Jags together have never really gelled, so it is unfortunate for him that Jagielka has found his form again. Has anyone ever been dropped from their respective team in similar circumstances? It messeswith your head.

In any case, if we want to finish in the top four this season, to sell Johnny in January would be suicide. You just know that with our injury luck as soon as he leaves one of the other two blokes would get hurt. Duffy has shown he is good, but would we want to have him as our only CB replacement?

So, sorry Johnny, I think we should offload while he still has a name, use the money to buy either: 1) a new keeper; 2) a striker; 3) Forren.

What about the sudden drop of energy from Jelavic? Seems like he is ready to show the white flag already

A lot to think about until Moyes gets a new contract or not.

He's just an accident waiting to happen every time he plays now, probably doing his best not to get injured before he signs for Barcelona in January.

Distin is faster and better in the air than Heitinga, also he is more consistent, braver and makes tackles. Distin hardly ever gets booked because he tackles properly. Heitinga at the moment gives forwards too much room and hardly ever blocks a shot. Carlton Cole looked fantastic against him and he is no world-beater.

I'm afraid Heitinga has no plusses at the moment and cannot challenge any tall striker in the air.

If you check out his game properly you will see that he has no pace, lacks height and tackles poorly.
I have said for ages that he is without doubt the worst Dutch International I have ever seen.
Not just this season either !!

Distin is much older but appears faster and much more prominent as a defender.
Jagielka is top class in the premiership as is Baines.

Moyes does not pick world beaters, he picks from who has got.
He has no money to buy world beaters and relies on effort, tactics and some ability from his limited pool of players.

Heitinga has no one hankering after his services and we got him unapposed.
I have not seen any 'gossip' about clubs bidding for him, perhaps you have ??
If we can get 5 million for him it would be good business, but I do not see queue's of admirers.

Using words like world beater and legend has unfortunately become as common place as the USA use of awesome.

Heitinga is a journeyman and certainly no world beater.

Was it not so long ago most on here were calling for Jags to be shifted off to Arsenal for £10 million because Johnny H was our best player. Defensively solid.

If I was him, I'd be pissed off being dropped to accommodate someone else who at the time, you were better than. Then being dropped for no other reason than not being 'a favourite'.

I think Johnny will be gone sooner than later, sadly, but I do not align with those who think he is a journeyman or a poor player. He is out of match practice because he is not getting the playing time, period. Chicken-and-egg syndrome, I'm afraid.

But Jags and Distin the best pairing? How will we ever know? What we do know is that when both play we are vulnerable to along ball over the top or through the middle. How many goals do we concede like this?

How many last-ditch tackles have diverted the ball into the net? One yard off the pace, both of them. But with JH unable to get a long run its the best we have.

Don't knock JH — he has been good value even if he moves on... Lescott? Don't make me laugh, he threw the towel in in his last game and Moyes won't forget that — neither should he. Neither should we.