FA fine Everton for breaching football agent regulations

"Everton have been fined £45,000 and warned as to their future conduct after breaching the FA's football agent regulations.

"The breach relates to the club's unauthorised approach to Jamaal Lascelles whilst the player was under a scholarship agreement at Nottingham Forest in the latter part of 2010.

"Andy Niedzwiecki, the football agent who was representing Mr Lascelles at the time, has been fined and Jamaal Lascelles, who also admitted his part in the affair, has been severely warned as to his future conduct.

"The time-frame for any appeal has passed."

Shane, I'm not sure that you can compare the Baines/Moyes and Jamaal Lascelles / Moyes situation. As far as we know Baines was not personally involved with any skullduggery regarding a move to Utd. Utd and Moyes came after him. Lascelles and his agent, Niedzwiecki, the ex Wrexham goalie, were involved in attempting to get a move to Everton for Lascelles. Not quite the same thing, but embarrassing and not worthy of Everton FC. There is a common denominator. OFM.

As you both point out, it isn't something we should be associated with but the common denominator thing, although accurate, would suggest that Moyes was the main man in both cases which isn't necessarily true.

Two questions:

1. Who the bloody hell is he?

2. What took the FA so bloody long?

And if it takes 4 years to sort that out are they fit to run the game

Are the people who were involved still working at the club and who are they?

Are we bad or what?

1) It is against Natural Justice to deny victims the opportunity to appeal just because the governing body could not get to a decision in the correct time frame.

2) This is not the first time such instances have occurred and the financial penalty was less.

3) The main player on behalf of the club, Moyes is no longer employed by Everton making it impossible for the club to implement their own disciplinary procedure.

ps: Keep all the copies of what happened over Man Utd, Moyes and Baines and wait for 2017...

He knew, we knew and everyone knew the player was tapped up.

What player would say that with the prospect of looking silly if the other team said nah not interested in the player, you don't just say it unless you know for sure the other team wants you.

Granted a player can throw his toys out of the pram to try and force a move if the club says no, but that happens anyway as soon as it's public a club is interested in the player. There are a million ways for a club/manager to find out if a player would be intersted in a move without contacting the player directly, so the whole tapping up rule is fankly nonsense.

Secondly, as mentioned, htf can it take 4 years to come to a ruling. They cannot have spent that entire time on 'enquiries' surely. I guess it probably was forgotten about until recently.

Htf is he anyway, never heard of him and he'sy doesn't seem to have made any great leap in the last 4 years, so probably dodged a bullet not signing him! Not surprisingly he's a defender!

We should also add a retro tap-up penalty for Rooney. Go to the Euros surrounded by Man U players? I'm sure not one of Fergie's "agents" sounded Rooney out towards his feelings about being a Man U player.

Great idea, would really shove it up the F.A.

So long as the rule is duly enforced toward every club, I have no problem with Everton accepting this (relatively small) fine. That being said, I have my doubts as to whether it is the case that this rule is evenly enforced.

I, admittedly, haven't read the rule but based on the understanding that I have of it, how do you enforce it? A rule that can't be enforced is not worth having.

I'd also like to know why they decided to make it public that we'd been naughty (in 2010ffs) but not give the deatils. If they have enouigh evidence to fine the club, the FA (aptly named bunch of tossers) did not appear to level that criticism at any individual employee of EFC?