Blues unfortunate to lose in Dresden

Everton Pre-Season live!

With more than half-an-hour till kick-off.

Great to see the imperious John Stones playing for us. I'm one of the 21%-ers hoping against hope that he's staying. And Lukaku on the bench; glad to see him too... even though his lackadaisical style drives me crazy.

Classic Everton.

Edit: Never mind, got it working now.

I have got the feed & kickoff is in 5 minutes.

The feed does not usually come on before 5 - 7 minutes before kickoff.

Secondly, if any of you have German satellite, you can watch tonight's game on MDR and they are streaming it on mdr.de.

Yeah Geri is playing up top largely on his own, with Mirallas trying to get get up on the left of him. Barkley is spitting and pointing at yellow shirted players running past him.

I do hope Griffiths asks that very pertinent question to Koeman after the match.

It also begs the question: Why fly him to Germany in the first place?

Gibson's worst game so far & Coleman does not look that positive.

Obviously looking at playing a back 4 of Holgate, Pennington, Galloway & Oviedo tomorrow.

Ross and Seamus not at the races at all.

I think Deulofeu is making a thorough new start of this pre-season, though! May it continue!

Petty poor tonight.

Tell you what... let's have a yet another look at a yet another photo shoot showing yet another kit... That'll placate things .

Let's just hope he doesn't fit into any pegs within Barca...

And let's hope RK can take him aside and shame him out of his rude behaviour towards our youngsters making a dud pass at times... That was annoying to watch vs MK Dons!!!

Deulofeu gives up far too easily and makes a token effort. Not having a go cos' lack of form; having a go cos' lack of effort = no football instinct.

Barkley was terrible, Deulofeu could and should have had 5 tonight. Never mind, let's move on to tomorrow and hope for a better performance and result.

The boy cannot defend, his ability from set pieces is crap, all he's interested in now is money. Remember Rodwell... the grass is not always greener.

I bow to you.

With all this money and not a signing, apart from goalkeeper, it's time to get things moving because that was poor tonight against a second division German team.

The only postive in this match was our new forward... Like Michael Owen, only better with his feet.

Lukaku can do one.

I hope things are okay that side of the water.

Hopefully Ron can rectify the the frailties and personnel we are still short of as the last 2 seasons have shown.

Defensively we are still woeful.

We seriously need a midfield playmaker, a good back up or replacement for Lukaku and someone, anyone who can lead on the pitch!

The Blues have immediately launched an appeal to Uefa to have the result overturned due to the opposition fielding an ineligible player – apparently the gas fitter they had in midfield wasn't Corgi-registered.

Back to this shite off the kopites, only saving grace is their new keeper has broken his hand. 😁

I have the same concerns about pace with Pennington who seems to me to lack half a yard, though he is otherwise very promising.

Koeman Out!

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Aside from this, though, he seems to have many attributes,. Maybe some more knowledgeable TWers can fill in the blanks for us?

Who makes this stuff up. Who is it Stones contracted to right now?

Add another £10 million just for good measure.

Yes, we created more chances but again unable to take them. (We played off a one-trick pony all night – just playing to Geri's pace – fuck all else. No-one else could manage fuck-all. All these senior attack-minded players who play central and out wide done fuck-all again!! Like every other game they play... When will we ever learn? Get fecking rid, now!!!

Also, talking about creating chances, thank fuck we had Geri!... With his tremendous workrate, combined with his overall performance, he can feel proud of his game.Yes, he missed some opportunities – but he also created most of them himself! If he keeps knocking on the door, it will happen for him!!

The gaffer needs to rid us of all the fecking deadwood now!! Otherwise we'll be saying the same fecking things in December!

Looking forward to the match tomorrow, to see how they react after this evening's result. That's all pre-season is about, after all. :)

How many times last season did we see Barkley running with the ball, head down, losing it and both full backs marooned over the half-way line?

Galloway and Holgate have looked good in patches and will likely start today. Davies has done OK along with Mirallas and Gibson at times but it's been uninspiring mostly.

Will take time to unlearn Martinez' philosophy but would hope to see the players put in a few more individual displays.

Will be interesting to see Barry, Cleverley and McCarthy today given all of them have their places under threat.

No names on shirts suggests Big Ron is far from certain of his squad so you would think players with any sense of pride would show they deserve a shirt or as it looked last night some are not that bothered.

Imho, apart from Stones (over-rated), Lukaku (unreliable), Barkley (still trying to frustratingly realise his potential), we have only Funes Mori and Coleman, who could figure on top clubs' radars. We might have a player or two improving, but not a whole squad!

Imo, we need a complete overhaul and not just tweaked. Most of the average players I mentioned above had barely 60 minutes in them before they were substituted in the past 2 seasons, where they brought us to the dizzy heights of 11th place, 2 seasons on the trot. Wholesale changes are needed.

You could also see that the habits drilled into the players from Martinez are still there and will take some time to iron out. We still kept on playing tippy tappy shite in the wrong areas, players took too much time on the ball, the work rate and concentration was lacking at times and there wasn't enough pressing of the ball high up the pitch.

But this all won't get sorted out over night but what will help to speed that process up is when Koeman gets his players in, players of the quality and work ethic that will fit into the way he wants to play football.

Before Koeman even came in I felt we needed 5 players (GK, CB, CM, LW & ST), 3 of which could walk straight into the side (GK, CM & LW) but looking at the pre season games, going by how Koeman sets up and wants us to go about games, I think we need more!

We definitely need a new No.1. Stekelenburg is decent but not someone I'd like us to rely on all season between the sticks. Think we definitely need a new CB regardless of IF Stones stays or goes. IF he goes then we need 2 imo. We need a new CM pairing, and holding mid and all rounder. A No.10 which we've been crying out for for a few seasons now. A left sided player has we only really have Mirallas down there but he blows too hot and cold. Deulofeu could play there and watching him this pre season, he could play at No.10 aswell and I wouldn't be surprised to see Koeman use him in the same way he used Mane at Southampton, has like a second striker from a more withdrawn starting position either out wide or at No.10 to give us that pace inbehind and be that player who runs beyond the striker from deep, aswell has being a creative outlet. We also need better quality at right wing. Deulofeu has the quality but I don't think he'll be fixed down to just the right hand side by Koeman. And Lennon is a good squad filler but lacks quality in the final third. And we obviously need strikers. IF Lukaku stays, we need 2 imo to compete with him and be able to come in and do the job. Niasse looks to be going and Kone isn't good enough so we need 2 new strikers, unless Koeman thinks 1 is enough and we can get away with using Deulofeu up top on occasions?!

There's gonna be a big few weeks coming up from Koeman and the club with regards to getting players in has if we're serious about getting back in the European mix then we need the required quality to give us that chance!

Let's just see how things pan out hey

1st - Patience.
It is reasonable that the management want to fully and fairly assess the current squad from all angles. This is happening.
2nd - Money.
Here Evertonians have been patient over the years such that they get a sense of value and worth of players purchased relative to their cost. Coleman being a case in point. Also the potential performance value of Mr. Walsh should contribute to this philosophy big time.

Do we have a 100m kitty? I believe so. I trust what I ave been told. Will we resolve the stadium issue? Again I believe so, and rust what I have been told. Does that make me stupid or naieve? I don't think so, just trusting in a positive way.

Reading reports about Ashley Williams at 10m, Idrissa Guey at 7m and the door still open for a GK, a No.10, and a left sided mid-fielder, and striker, coupled with the talented youth stream then we will be OK. Splash the cash if you will but seriously, what we need is a sustainable mid / long term plan and that is what is shaping up.

Some players never play at full throttle in fried lies. The atmosphere tends to be flat- I used to go to the last friendly at Goodison and a goal was only greeted by a ripple of applause because not even the fans can get motivated. There are exceptions and certainly any youngster given a chance should work his balls off to impress.

I think we all have a good idea of who needs to go and I would imagine Ron and Walsh will kick into action next week. It will take time for Robertos ways to be coached out of the players and a lot more than 3 or 4 weeks on the training pitch when the concentration will have been on getting the players fit again.

I expect an up and down season with maybe the team coming into decent form in time for the FA cup. Ron must be given time- none of us could go into a new job and turn around bad performance of two and a half seasons into a successful business within a few weeks and Ron shouldn't be expected to either.

Be patient!!

We've just played 2 teams with better quality back to back and, regardless of it being preseason or not, we seriously lack quality. Now I know we're finding it hard to get that quality in but it's going to take a while for Koeman to mould us into the team of his making and imo we look well short with only 2 weeks to go before the start of the season.

Now I'm not panicking just yet but there needs to be a big increase in our efforts across the board at the club in the next few weeks to get us fit, get us functioning has a team and to get the required quality in to give us a chance of getting off to a positive start this season imo.

What do most think Koeman's will do on Wednesday & Saturday? Give most of the squad game time as to date, or start with most of those he thinks will be starting against Spurs?

Yes.

Good of you to pop up, Raymond, when we've lost in pre-season in our new manager's FOURTH fixture in charge. Never mind that Martinez's last 70 games produces a mediocre win ratio.

Did you consider that this squad was largely assembled by Martinez, and coached into the state of poor fitness currently on show?