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After being rested last Tuesday, will Gareth Barry get a recall into a side that eventually conquered Arsenal?
If this time last week, Everton fans were approaching the current two-game home stand with overwhelming dread, the pulse-racing win over Arsenal has transformed the mood, albeit within the bounds of typically cautious Evertonian optimism.
Blues fans have known too much pain in this fixture for expectations to be too high going into the Goodison derby but there is at least hope based on last Tuesday's performance which demonstrated that Ronald Koeman's men have the stomach for the fight in what is often a tempestuous and full-blooded affair.
Furthermore, the atmosphere inside the Grand Old Lady that built to a crescendo when Ashley Williams headed in that most welcome of winners will have demonstrated to the players that the supporters can be fully behind them if the requisite effort and desire is there on the field. Blue passion both on the terraces and on the pitch is going to be vital if Everton are to win their first derby in six years.
If the Arsenal win represented a mental hurdle cleared, there's hope that Koeman, who recorded wins against the Premier League's power players in his time at Southampton, can eliminate a longstanding psychological wall that has often blighted Everton against their neighbours since Tim Cahill and Mikel Arteta scored in a 2-0 Blues win in October 2010.
There has been agony at Wembley in the last four of the FA Cup and humiliation at Anfield in the form of a pair of 4-0 defeats and the need to fight back at Goodison Park where the Blues have conceded the first goal in four of the last five home derbies — the fifth ended goalless. Everton's propensity to go behind this season doesn't bode well but, again, hopefully the resolve is there to rescue any poor start.
Evertonians are due a strong display from the first whistle, however, and the caludron of noise should be there at kick-off for them to feed off. The rest is up to the players. And the manager is fully aware of the improvement that is needed in the Toffees' record.
“The record is not good. One out of 19… it's time to beat them,” Koeman said in his pre-match press conference. “And, for course, every time you don't win, the one that you will win will come closer.
“You need to accept how difficult it is and win the game and make the fans happy.”
As tempted as he might have been, Koeman won't be able to field the same side that started against Arsenal because of Phil Jagielka's suspension. The club captain was recalled for the clash with the Gunners but picked up a second yellow card in the frantic finale to the Blues' win. Ramiro Funes Mori, himself a late substitute in that game, is the likely beneficiary to partner Ashley Williams.
Then there's the question of Gareth Barry who was rested last Tuesday but has otherwise been an important component of the team this season. Handed a two-year extension to his contract this week, the 35-year-old is in line for a recall but James McCarthy made a very strong case for retaining his place with the energy he showed in the veteran's his stead against Arsenal.
Speaking of Barry, Koeman said in his pre-match press conference: “He is that player who runs a lot in distances. He is still one of the players who runs the most of every player and that's because his fitness is still OK. And he's clever, that type of player. And, of course, in this period there's a lot fixtures so you need to protect him a little bit and that is the reason why he did not start against Arsenal.”
It would not be surprising if the manager opted on the safer side and deployed all three of his defensive midfielders like he did at Watford despite the poor team performance that day. In that instance, Aaron Lennon would be the like casualty along with much-needed width and pace on the flanks. Any alterations to the side that kicked off against Arsenal are likely to be few in number.
If you had to pick when to play Liverpool, it would probably be a time when Philippe Coutinho was out injured which remains the case going into Monday evening's game. The Brazilian has been sidelined with a hamstring injury which means his goal threat from distance and his creativity is one weapon Everton won't have to worry about.
They also remain defensively vulnerable and, like their Blue rivals, short of a dominant “number one” in goal — Loris Karius was dropped by Jà¼rgen Klopp for the Reds' victory at Middlesbrough in midweek in favour of Simon Mignolet whose form can go either way — so there is enough to exploit if Everton can generate some sustained intensity.
Defender Joel Matip is also a doubt with a troublesome ankle injury but Emre Can and Daniel Sturridge are expected to return.
If the game were played on paper, Liverpool would have the edge based on form this season and that is reflected in the prices from the oddsmakers, who, predictably, favour a draw or away win. If you fancy making it more interesting with a flutter, Paddy Power have a no-risk offer for new accounts. To back any outcome with a bet without losing money, learn more about Paddy's offer — a £30 free bet that gets you started and some very interested enhanced betting odds for each big game.
As the cliché goes, of course, the form book often goes out the window in derbies and heart and desire take over. There was plenty of that in Blue last Tuesday — time to produce it again in spades to and give Goodison Park an early Christmas present.
Kick-off: 8pm, Monday, 19 December, 2016
Referee: Mike Dean
Last Time: Everton 1 - 1 Liverpool
Predicted Line-up: Stekelenburg, Coleman, Williams, Funes Mori, Baines, Barry, Gueye, McCarthy, Barkley, Valencia, Lukaku
Full details: ToffeeWeb match page
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2 Posted 18/12/2016 at 17:34:54
If Bournemouth can rattle them in an 11,000 capacity stadium, what will 40,000, with a comparable atmosphere to the Arsenal game do to their already frayed nerves, especially now they've had to bring in their dropped keeper.
If our manager reverts to type with 3 DM's, we would be playing into their hands, so here's hoping the adventurous koeman who picked the last side keeps his nerve. COYB
3 Posted 18/12/2016 at 17:35:43
At least the manager has no underdog mentality when it come to playing theses sides, let's hope he can get it across to the players. I'd stick with McCarthy & Gueye in the middle. What bottlers we are against these bastards.
4 Posted 18/12/2016 at 17:44:25
5 Posted 18/12/2016 at 17:53:29
6 Posted 18/12/2016 at 17:55:15
Also, let Davies have a run in the last 20 mins. when RS legs are getting tired. (If you're good enough you're old enough!)
7 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:02:17
I like Barry, surely he can start on the bench, and come on, if necessary, when the pace has dropped in the last 30 minutes.
If we play as we did in the last 70 minutes of last Tuesday's game, then Liverpool will know they have been in a match, and with the majority of the crowd roaring them on, Everton have a very good chance of another famous victory.
8 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:10:45
If only it was that simple Brian. Say it with determined certainty and it will happen.
To me, it depends how we start. Go for them and crowd will carry on from Arsenal game. Start hesitant or scared and Liverpool will be three-up by half time and the crowd will be their 12th man.
I think the team that beat Arsenal deserve their starting places.
3-1... it will happen!
9 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:12:56
I would love to make it a case of attacking their porous defence but ours is no great shakes either.
Midfield dominance is the key to this game so let's hope our lads are up for it and Mike Dean keeps his cards in his pocket (for us anyway).
10 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:15:29
O Lord we have suffered for such a long while
On us thy poor children bestow a sweet smile
Give us now the strength to go out there and fight
To play some good football and beat the Red Shite.
Amen
11 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:16:32
12 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:27:38
13 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:35:52
14 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:42:48
About time we gave the 19th Century MK Dons a good twatting as well! No better time to do it on a Monday night before Christmas at a bouncing Goodison.
15 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:10:36
16 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:13:22
But let's be positive: I have a feeling Ross Barkley and Lukaku are going to step up, it's just a matter of can our defense hold strong!!!
I wish Jags was available but we've got who we've got so Koeman will have to have a word with Funes Mori we can't afford a repeat of last year's carry-on!
17 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:26:06
We're at home. We have an unbeaten home record this season. They're not unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination.
So 2-1 Everton, end of.
18 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:29:15
To all Everton players: If you're not prepared to leave everything you've got out on the pitch tomorrow, tell the manager now and stay away. It's time for men not over-hyped boys.
Get in their faces and stay there, don't let them breathe.
20 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:40:55
21 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:49:07
Goals in the fullness
Goals for eternity
Thank you that I share in Howie's resurrection years
That he and Alan Ball's alive in us
And that their spirit dwells deeply in our being
Right now I receive your healing
I receive the same power like in '94 that saved the Blues from Division 1
I hold my nose as I receive your rubbish beer
I receive the strength from the dodgy pastie
Thank you that you are moving at speed down the left wing
May I continue to receive from you
Excitement this hour and every hour.
Continue to shine upon the first children of this Holy Land
And keep our ability steadfast,
to grin dismissively at the Norwegians for all their inability to win things without penalties
In your honour
Amen.
22 Posted 18/12/2016 at 19:55:19
3 - 1 Everton... same team as last week minus Jags and plus Funes Mori.
23 Posted 18/12/2016 at 20:16:07
Otherwise, same team in a 4-1-4-1.
24 Posted 18/12/2016 at 20:23:44
25 Posted 18/12/2016 at 20:28:33
Stekelenburg, Holgate, Williams, Funes Mori, Coleman, Gana, Davies, Barry, Baines, Deulofeu, Lukaku.
Good luck Blues.
26 Posted 18/12/2016 at 20:49:19
27 Posted 18/12/2016 at 20:54:24
Gerard Deulofeu insists he does not have a stamina issue.
Deulofeu has completed just one of the four league games he has started this season but is adamant he has no fitness problems.
And though the 22-year-old Everton winger says he has been forced to adjust to Ronald Koeman's demand for high pressing, the Catalan is enjoying the manager's tough training sessions.
“Always, I'm fit” Deulofeu said.
“What happens when the manager takes you off after 60 minutes, the people think ‘ah this player is unfit' but it is not this.
“If you see my training I am running and I have good statistics so this is not a problem.â€
Deulofeu says Koeman expects different things of him to his former boss Roberto Martinez.
And he admits they go against how he'd usually play.
“They are different managers” Deulofeu said.
“For example, Ronald wants me to do a lot of high pressing.
“I am not a defensive player, my best is in attack, and I don't know but maybe I am playing better in defence than attack. This is not normal, I need to score goals, I need to make assists because if not then I am not Geri.â€
He added: “The training is very good but we need to improve with the ball, we need to play better, take more risks because I prefer playing with risks than playing long balls.
For a player like me it is difficult to play with long balls.
“We have good players - Gareth Barry, Ramiro, Ashley, Seamus, Leighton.
“We need to play better and improve.â€
Looks to me like Geri will be gone this window or in the summer.
28 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:01:10
29 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:08:15
30 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:39:41
As for not being a defensive player... well, all attackers should be to able to press or defend to some extent just like Baines, Coleman & Williams can score goals!
31 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:50:10
32 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:51:06
Just a distant yet still blazing memory of that fantastic unexpected victory has been one of the few to sustain us in a long bleak period. Here's hoping for another even prouder rendition of Always Look on the Bright Side.
33 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:54:10
34 Posted 18/12/2016 at 21:55:40
Stekelenburg; Holgate, Williams, Funes Mori; Coleman, McCarthy, Barkley, Gana, Baines; Lukaku, Valencia in a 3-5-2.
37 Posted 18/12/2016 at 22:18:05
Give Coleman the armband.
38 Posted 18/12/2016 at 22:18:50
39 Posted 18/12/2016 at 22:35:33
41 Posted 18/12/2016 at 22:50:28
42 Posted 18/12/2016 at 22:55:54
43 Posted 18/12/2016 at 22:58:57
44 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:01:26
Tony #25, three at the back, which has worked so well in the past? Dump Macca, Barks and Valencia after they performed so well in our best effort of the season? An 18-year-old in midfield for the Derby? Again, no thanks.
For me, no changes except the one required. The guys who got the job done against the Arse get the call.
45 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:03:57
The game is on live here at 3pm so, if we can put up a show like we did v Arsenal, the old girl will be rocking. It won't be easy against a well organised and pretty skillful outfit from across the park but hope springs eternal that we can turn it on again, we deserve it.
46 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:20:25
Carragher made an interesting comment this week when he admitted that "As a Liverpool player, I always think you've got to try to control the referee at Goodison and I'm sure Everton fans won't be happy with me saying that, but I think that was your job at Goodison."
More often than not, they've managed to do exactly that and it's a sad indictment of our own stitch-lipped skippers over recent years that they've allowed such blatant, snide, badgering of officials to bear fruit without offering any opposition. In that respect, it might be a blessing that 'everybody's bud' and 'top tunnel jester' Jagielka is sitting this one out.
The crowd are going to be screaming blue murder and putting pressure on officials from the off. Whoever is handed the armband needs to be willing to do the same, not stand idly back, feeling mildly miffed while Mike Dean makes it clear Kopite cock-riding is his favourite mode of matchday transport.
47 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:37:39
48 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:38:36
Come on you Blues! No logic, no arguments, just a gut feeling.
49 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:42:46
50 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:46:06
As or Koeman, if he wants to win over the faithful after months of dross, winning his first derby will make it all instantly forgotten. with a lot of leeway gained for the rest of the season. Is Joe Royle the only Blue boss to win his first derby game?
51 Posted 19/12/2016 at 06:34:39
"Lord hear us."
"Lord, graciously hear us."
It's about time!
52 Posted 19/12/2016 at 07:22:45
Sod these arrogant whale hunters!
Cry Goodison for Harry Catterick and let slip Big Joe's dogs o'war!
If you're inside "The Grand Old Lady" tonight then make noise, make noise for these "bandwagon of a lifetime" gobshites to fear to their Norweigian/Japanese graves. Give the whale hunters and Jurgen Street-Porter an arctic cold spine for the rest of their miserable lives!
COYB!
53 Posted 19/12/2016 at 07:31:30
Very good! Hope to see them blubber tonight.
54 Posted 19/12/2016 at 07:32:21
However, after the Arsenal victory and given that it's Koeman's first derby and the "get stuck into 'em" factor, there is a strong hint of victory in the air... For us evidement!
55 Posted 19/12/2016 at 07:36:41
That said, alignment does matter, and three at the back has been a ticket to catastrophe for us. Maybe someday. Not for this one.
56 Posted 19/12/2016 at 08:05:03
57 Posted 19/12/2016 at 08:19:20
58 Posted 19/12/2016 at 08:23:53
59 Posted 19/12/2016 at 08:24:24
This will make us more solid but much slower on the break and then look to change it in the second half.
Probably sensible as it's all about he result, this one.
60 Posted 19/12/2016 at 08:26:35
My main concern, and has been all season, is our attacking midfield. Valencia has brought something new recently, with his hard work and aggression, so he must play.
The spotlight will be on Barkley, he needs a big performance. He has to prove he can make an impact in big games. It's crucial if he wants a new contract, and the game could hinge on it.
61 Posted 19/12/2016 at 09:19:49
We got the balance just about right against Arsenal, we defended well enough to restrict their opportunities whilst getting enough bodies forward to ensure we gave them problems.
Different game, but like Arsenal, this crew don't want a street-fight. Lets give them one.
I agree with Dave A. Barry may find the pace of tonight's game a bit hot for him, but he will have a role to play at the business end of the game when the pace has dropped and experience is crucial.
I would love to really murder them but, I don't think that will happen. If he stays brave and plays two up top, I would fancy us, by the odd goal.
62 Posted 19/12/2016 at 09:31:13
I would start with the same team as Arsenal and give the instruction to Barkley to run at their back four and shoot early!!
63 Posted 19/12/2016 at 10:02:01
64 Posted 19/12/2016 at 10:09:54
What do I know, but I think it showed me that it's down the sides where you can get at Liverpool. There fullbacks like to attack, so you will find space in behind, unless they are cautious, which will also nullify how they usually play.
One thing Liverpool do really well is run, it's turning decent players into good or even very good players. Match this and we will see they are nowhere near as good as they are being portrayed, but that's the easy bit, the players have got to go out and do it.
Deulofeu is not a winger, play him off Lukaku for the last half an hour and he's definitely got the ability to destroy teams, especially once a game has been stretched. But is he brave enough?
66 Posted 19/12/2016 at 10:48:45
67 Posted 19/12/2016 at 10:56:57
The red filth have duff goalies a-plenty and a defence that is non-too-reliable in general. Breathe fire down their scrawny necks early on and let's see what happens.
Paddy Power say 200/1 for the outcome mentioned previously. I say you're on.
68 Posted 19/12/2016 at 10:58:38
I'd like to see our midfield absolutely kick the shit out of them early doors. Bollocks to playing them at their own game. They don't have any 'hard' players in their team anymore.
69 Posted 19/12/2016 at 11:12:48
Bitter? too fucking right. Let's do these bastards. COYB... FTRS.
70 Posted 19/12/2016 at 11:24:29
When hopes are high, Everton ALWAYS let you down!
71 Posted 19/12/2016 at 11:24:51
I don't think we should be 3/1 to win, I think that's a value bet.
Not that you can fancy us really strongly though, their a right handful on attack, we will probably have to score 2, 3 or 4 goals if we are to win.
Very important that we keep 11 players on the field also!
72 Posted 19/12/2016 at 11:27:43
As others have stated though, I fear he will sacrifice something going forward to accommodate the three in the middle, most likely Lennon or Valencia.
73 Posted 19/12/2016 at 11:37:16
They are beatable, the approach has to be right that's all.
COYB!
74 Posted 19/12/2016 at 12:34:39
75 Posted 19/12/2016 at 12:41:49
76 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:05:31
I think with Origi in the team, they might become a bit more direct but, as ever, we will only stand a chance if we can match their incessant work-rate. I honestly don't think the gap between the two sets of players is anywhere near as big as people are saying, but the big difference between the teams at the minute is the fact that they play as a team!
Let's hope Arsenal was the start of our own coming together?
77 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:34:18
78 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:38:34
Nowhere near the gap between the two sets of players some would have you believe.
I said before last week's game that I had a gut feeling that the Arsenal game may be a turning point; judging by the responses a lot of other posters felt the same way.
Of course, we cant claim to have turned a corner after a solitary win, but, there was a genuine will to win last week and it would be fantastic to replicate that tonight.
Despite us having a Weston and them receiving universal plaudits for their "astonishing" season under an even more astonishing manager, a win for us tonight would put us within striking distance of the twats... which kinda endorses your point.
79 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:42:29
As much as the Arsenal game has given me some hope, I would have liked to have seen that kind of effort at least two or three times to make me fancy the odds of it coming around again.
Hopefully Ron has now realised that, if you set the team up to attack the opposition, then Goodison under lights is an incredible place to be.
But from his comments it sounds like Barry will come back in and we'll go defensive with that massive gap between midfield and attack. Do that and it's not going to be pretty.
I fucking hate derbies. Come on you blues!
80 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:51:29
81 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:52:16
82 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:58:35
83 Posted 19/12/2016 at 13:59:33
An unfancied player to score the winner... Lennon on as sub, cuts in from the right, exchanges passes with Rom and guides it into the net... YEEEEESSSSSS 1-0!!!!
COYMB
84 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:00:12
Liverpool scored 3 away to Boro and 3 away to Bournemouth in their last 2 away games so we need to make sure we don't concede that many as we're not scoring many ourselves.
It would be a great night for Valencia to get on the scoresheet but I am expecting a big performance from Rom for a change as he knows what it means to the fans. I watched a bit of Wimbledon's win over them in the FA Cup Final last night and Vinnie Jones's first tackle on McMahon set the scene.
85 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:01:07
2-1 win methinks, just gotta feeling we'll nick it.
COYB
86 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:24:56
Not much of a confidence booster if you play in a great win and then get dropped! Also, please DON'T play Barry, he's not going to have the legs to handle Liverpool's midfield and will mean Gana having to cover for him.
87 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:48:38
88 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:05:18
89 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:18:44
90 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:34:16
We all know how the RS play, fast and furious, so the boys need to stay composed. The tackling needs to be good and we don't need any garbage officiating but it will be there anyway.
91 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:40:41
92 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:48:33
93 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:49:29
We have to start with the same team as last week but with the same intensity from the off. We can't afford to fuck around for 20 minutes feeling sorry for ourselves.
COYB's
Home win @ 3-1.
94 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:52:20
95 Posted 19/12/2016 at 16:00:06
96 Posted 19/12/2016 at 16:00:10
Can we borrow Naismith for the game? Loved what a proper nark he was for us.
97 Posted 19/12/2016 at 16:26:18
One thing is for sure Liverpool will score tonight, its whether we can match them and even just pinch the extra goal. It's not going to be easy, its not going to be 2-0, 3-1, we will all be biting our nails praying for that final whistle having just been awarded a Mike Dean penalty which Baines converts. There defence is as bad as ours, their attack is twice as good as ours (see the facts) but at least its at Goodison, under lights, with 35,000 Evertonians, screaming at Dean to blow his whistle, with the scores at 1-1 or hopefully 2-1 to Everton.
98 Posted 19/12/2016 at 16:32:04
If you do this, whatever happens, we'll be proud.
Come on, blue boys!
99 Posted 19/12/2016 at 17:07:48
100 Posted 19/12/2016 at 17:12:51
One for Eugene GGRRRRHHH
101 Posted 19/12/2016 at 17:23:07
104 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:00:06
First hurdle is with the manager. He must not start Barry. Ideally he'd go with Robles in goal too as I don't think Stek will have the bottle for tonight.
A line-up to help the nerves would be:
Robles, Coleman, Williams, Funes Mori, Baines, Lennon, Gueye, McCarthy, Mirallas, Valencia, Lukaku.
Head says draw. Heart says 4-0 Everton.
105 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:03:24
Just beat them. Any way you can. Just beat them.
106 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:13:20
I'm sick and tired of losing or drawing to that shower. I suppose the neutrals Carra, Redknapp and Souness will be the pundits tonight. You know, Sky's fair and balanced coverage. Fucking hate all of them. Come on Everton, twat 'em!!!
107 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:23:56
I've got a feeling that Koeman will pick Barry for Lennon, when personally I'd like to go 4-4-2 and have a real good go against a shite defence, but I've got more chance of winning the lottery than that happen.
108 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:24:41
That's what he's promised to do anyway.
COYB's.
109 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:34:55
110 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:40:02
111 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:43:05
112 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:45:23
113 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:49:54
114 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:53:41
Sometimes Everton have overcome that differential by shear heart and workrate such as the victory when we had Timmie. That wealth situation may be changing gradually if Moshiri continues his benevolence.
Coincidentally both teams have lost to Burnley and Bournemouth but the difference was that Everton were poor in both games. We all hope that the Arsenal game is the turning point to the season and that good things continue today but it goes without saying that they have to be focused from the off and have to sustain the intensity level for 90 minutes because we all know the RS have been scoring for fun this season.
115 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:02:59
116 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:03:05
Valencia starts:
First box ticked.
118 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:04:19
119 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:07:08
Currently in Dublin so off to find a blue pub (The Mercantile? Murrays? Can't stand watching it when there are RS around).
Saw that Firmino interview in The Red Echo (free at John Lennon airport as I won't buy it).
Let's stick it to these scumbags. Come on you Mighty Blues.
120 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:18:43
121 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:19:13
122 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:30:16
123 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:30:20
124 Posted 19/12/2016 at 19:30:39
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1 Posted 18/12/2016 at 17:34:18