Season › 2021-22 › General Forum Premier League — Matchweek 36 07/05/2022 Share: Only four of the weekend's Premier League fixtures are on UK television this weekend:Saturday 7 May 2022 15:00 Brentford v Southampton 15:00 Burnley v Aston Villa 15:00 Chelsea v Wolves 15:00 Crystal Palace v Watford 17:30 Brighton v Man Utd — Sky Sports 19:45 Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur — BT Sport 1 Sunday 8 May 2022 14:00 Arsenal v Leeds Utd — Sky Sports 14:00 Leicester City v Everton 14:00 Norwich City v West Ham Utd 16:30 Man City v Newcastle Utd — Sky Sports Reader Comments (179) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Jamie Crowley 1 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:07:21 Will Stevie G do us a solid? Jamie Crowley 2 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:08:01 BOOM. 1-0. Up the Villa (for today only). Rahul Gandhi 3 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:11:59 Come on Villa... Bill Gall 4 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:14:31 Brentford 1 up against Southampton Jon Bentley 5 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:17:06 Brentford 2 up. Soton could get dragged in as their next game is the Red Shite Bill Gall 6 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:17:19 Brentford 2 up just us against Leeds and Burnley now Dennis Stevens 7 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:19:39 Up the Villa! Jamie Crowley 8 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:20:51 Never even considered Southampton as relegation candidates, but man if they lose 2 or 3 to nothing, they're actually in big trouble.On 40 points and presently -19 GD. Liverpool and Leicester left, not easy games! Allen Rodgers 9 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:21:50 For the first time ever I'm rooting for Slippy and his Villans. Paul Birmingham 10 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:26:50 Cmon Villa, win this one and then the return game at Villa Park, in a few weeks, would be a massive boost for Everton.But Everton can decide their own destiny and a result tomorrow taking at least a point is massive.This weekend, the momentum, if Arsenal do the business tomorrow, could be with Everton.UTFT! Kevin Molloy 11 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:27:15 Steven Gerrard is a fine manager, with many qualities. Brian Denton 12 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:28:30 Jamie, that would take ALL of us, Burnley and Leeds getting to 40 points. Unlikely.Shows the value of points in the bag at this stage. Ray Roche 13 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:32:39 2-0!!! Rob Halligan 14 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:33:46 VILLLLLAAAAA. 2-0!Set up by Lucas Digne. Will Mabon 15 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:33:58 Ings not having his old club there. Brentford not looking like they've lost any drive so far today. Still some twists to come. Bill Gall 16 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:34:03 Nice pass from Digne for the goal Will Mabon 17 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:36:11 Nerves getting to Burnley? With luck, Villa don't do what we did at Turf Moor. Ray Roche 18 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:36:43 Watford 1-0 down Kevin Molloy 19 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:37:58 I really wish you hadn't said that Will Will Mabon 20 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:42:01 I think that leaves you and me at 1-1 Kevin :) Nick Page 21 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:42:47 Watford gone if they lose Will Mabon 22 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:46:54 They're gone for sure, Nick. Just a case of when it's confirmed. Bill Gall 23 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:50:16 Watching some of the Chelsea v Wolves game amazing the amount of empty seats at the Bridge some supporters they have, cant even support a top 6 team Ian Bennett 24 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:51:11 Chelsea can't sell tickets. Season ticket only due to Russia sanctions bill Mike Gaynes 25 Posted 07/05/2022 at 15:57:03 Very funny TV shot of Chelsea's new owner learning about VAR. Dumb Yank.Ian #24, no longer true. That was the case when Abramovich was first sanctioned, but Chelsea can now sell tickets, they just can't keep the revenues. So those empty seats are down to indifference. (Or an impromptu protest against the new American ownership.) Rob Halligan 26 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:05:38 Few hundred fans gathered at finch farm this afternoon to cheer the squad as they set off for Leicester. Danny O’Neill 27 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:06:32 I wish half time right now could be full time.Southampton as an outside bet anyone? Mike Gaynes 28 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:06:45 That's great, Rob. Any blue smoke? Tony Everan 29 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:07:31 Results looking good. Hope Villa don't slip up ! Watford doomed. Brian Denton 30 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:09:38 Danny (27) that would take ALL of Everton, Burnley and Leeds getting to 40 points. Unlikely.Shows the value of points in the bag at this stage. Jamie Crowley 31 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:10:49 3-0!!! Ray Roche 32 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:11:11 3-0 Rob Halligan 33 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:11:51 3-0. Jamie Crowley 34 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:12:32 Brian -I'm too focused on how many points Everton are on. You're prob correct - it would be "statistically weird" for Southampton to be in danger for sure.Still, remains a possibility even though remote. Allen Rodgers 35 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:12:44 An absolute master stroke selling Digne to Villa ! Rob Halligan 36 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:12:55 No blue smoke, Mike. Plenty of flags though. Tony Everan 37 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:13:25 Goal difference taking a knock too Mike Gaynes 38 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:17:41 Rom earning a new contract at Chelsea. Two in 2 minutes. Yank owner seen writing up new deal on his laptop. Lee Courtliff 39 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:20:27 Tarkowski went off after 47 minutes to be replaced by Kevin Long. That means Burnley are down to their 3rd and 4th choice CBs.Not sure why he went off but he must be injured. Tony Hill 40 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:21:45 Steven Gerrard, what a manager. Robert Tressell 41 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:26:27 Leeds away at Arsenal tomorrow. Now that Arteta is turning out to be quite a manager too. Dennis Stevens 42 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:27:49 Assuming no miracle turn 'round from Burnley today, you'd also have to fancy Villa for the return match at Villa Park. Undoubtedly matches that Burnley were counting on to get some points on the board, as the other matches they play are away to Spurs & home to the skunks - not easy! Steve Brown 43 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:28:06 Burnley away to Spurs and Villa next, then home to Newcastle in their last game. They will be lucky to get a point from that lot. Tony Hill 44 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:31:11 Yes, I think you're right Steve @43. This is an important score for us, very important. I can't see a comeback for them.We just need to hold our nerve now. Mike Gaynes 45 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:32:25 Yeah, Robert, and it was only eight months ago that Arteta looked done, #1 in the sack race. Ian Bennett 46 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:34:45 Looks like 40 points is the mark.Can't see Southampton getting another point. Leeds should get to 40, and Burnley could still scrap to 40. Simon Dalzell 47 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:40:33 Really can't see Burnley or Leeds getting 40 points. Mike Gaynes 48 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:41:56 Agreed, Simon. Burnley would need to pull a big surprise. Leeds would have to pull two. Paul Hewitt 49 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:43:15 If things go right, we could be safe next Sunday night. Tony Hill 50 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:43:34 Mike @45, indeed. Lampard is our man. He started off playing, or trying to play, the type of football for which we all yearn. But then he got bitten and - a bit late - has cut back in order to survive.But his instincts remain and we will recover Everton flair in due course. He's also a hard sort (as well as being a stupendous player). I was very pleased with his response to the FA charge: his first responsibility is to protect Everton. So it is.We must stick with him and his team. I think we're going to gather trophies with him over the years.It would be funny if he and Gerrard were to end up in serious managerial competition; but it's possible. Stephen Vincent 51 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:50:13 I had a speculative tenner this week on Southampton to go down 60/1. Brent Stephens 52 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:51:13 Results in our favour today but we still need to gain points ouselves. Just one tomorrow will be very useful.Cornet gets one back for Burnley - blow. Mike Gaynes 53 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:51:34 Standing ovation for Rom at the Bridge. I think that's the first time.Tony #50, wouldn't surprise me. Center backs and central mids make the best managers. These two are destined for success IMO. Paul Hewitt 54 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:52:32 Neither Burnley or Leeds are getting 40 points. Pete Hughes 55 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:53:12 Burnley get a goal back! Dennis Stevens 56 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:55:17 Not too sure how accurate that is, Mike #53. Off the cuff, I think Catterick, Clough, Revie & Ferguson were all strikers. Mike Gaynes 57 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:56:53 Holy spitz, Wolves equalize with the last touch of the game. Chelsea's new Yank looks sick. Rob Halligan 58 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:57:10 Burnley will finish on 34 points, and Leeds on 35. I can't see Burnley getting any more points, and leeds may get one more, a home draw against Brighton. One more win for us and we're sound!! Frank Crewe 59 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:58:16 So Burnley lost and their next game is Spurs away. Three points tomorrow would be golden for us. So lets hope they don't blow it. Rob Halligan 60 Posted 07/05/2022 at 16:59:13 As I mentioned, the send off from finch farm.https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/frank-lampard-everton-finch-farm-23893311Sorry Mike, there was blue smoke! 😄😄😄 Mike Gaynes 61 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:01:43 Dennis, historically true... but of today's top managers, very few. Mostly mids and CBs. Tom Bowers 62 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:02:49 Don't you just luv' Slippy G. Danny O’Neill 63 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:03:19 Great send off by the fans. The players need to feel it as much as we do.The results went our way. Over to us Everton. Look after out own fate. Tony Hill 64 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:04:41 Rob @58, we're nearly there, mate, but we have to help ourselves. I'm very confident about next season if we survive.This has been a necessary shock. Dennis Stevens 65 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:05:34 Don't forget the goalies, Mike - there was Mike Walker &, er Brian Murray 66 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:06:30 Everton win tomorrow carlo and pep do the rest, is that too much to ask. coyb oh and chairman resignation, heaven on earth Frank Crewe 67 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:09:24 That late Wolves equalizer will do us some good. It will keep Chelsea motivated for their game against Leeds if they want to hang onto 3rd place. If Arsenal beat Leeds tomorrow they will only be 1 point behind Chelsea. Rob Halligan 68 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:09:46 Brian, # 66. Don't forget Thomas. Danny O’Neill 69 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:10:13 Get the Rosary Beads out Brian. I'll have mine out in the morning and asking the dogs for inspiration! James Hughes 70 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:12:21 Chelski have conceded late and have drawn with Wolves, Leeds may have a chance in midweek against them James Hughes 71 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:12:21 Chelski have conceded late and have drawn with Wolves, Leeds may have a chance in midweek against them Paul Jones 72 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:15:14 We should send a choir to the relevant hotel in Leicester to hold a candlelit vigil and sing some sweet, sweet lullabies.Now that Watford are down, do we think they'll be playing without fear next week or without hope? Recent experience for us suggests the former, so I'd be happy with a point next week. This means tomorrow is win or bust for us. We know the foxes have a potential Thursday hangover, so if we come out the traps tomorrow and have runners across the pitch from minute one then we could pull this off. Tony Hill 73 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:15:32 The thing about Lampard is that he has the talent to take the game away from our idiot directors/owner. These are the people who, aided by the players, have done the damage. Alas, a lot of fans have been persuaded to blame managers.Frank will just do well because that is in his nature. Then, the dickheads won't matter (though, no doubt, they'll claim the credit). Rob Halligan 74 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:17:40 Just seen Kamara of Watford was sent off today, so will miss the game against us. Isn't he one of their better players? Neil Copeland 75 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:29:51 It's even more in our own hands now with 2 games in hand on Burnley. A great set of results for us today but none of it matters if we win our games.Every game is winnable and we are finding a bit of form. COYB, keep the focus and go again tomorrow. We can do this.UTFT Brent Stephens 76 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:31:48 Goose bumps watching that FF send-off. Cant wait for tomorrow. Rob Halligan 77 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:33:36 Blimey, didn't realise how close Southampton are to the drop. They only have two games left, the RS at home and Leicester away. Their goal difference is -20 as we speak. Probably be safe though, as I can't see Burnley getting anymore points, and Leeds might get one more. Tony Everan 78 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:35:47 Rob, he has been their first choice left back so we could be targeting that side. Gray or Gordon will get chances to attack and provide assists. Danny O’Neill 79 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:37:51 I told my brother to put a pound on Southampton Rob (yes, me the eternal gambler!!). You could get 80-1 earlier this week.Stranger things happen. Tony Everan 80 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:41:08 Danny, I watched them against Burnley couple of weeks ago, couldn't believe how bad they were. It's like they've hit a brick wall. Neil Copeland 81 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:41:43 Brent, me too. Another fantastic showing from the greatest supporters in the world. Mike Gaynes 82 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:53:27 Rob, that video won't load for me, but thanks for the smoky update!Dennis, I read somewhere that Big Nev was one of the worst managers ever. Jamie Crowley 83 Posted 07/05/2022 at 17:58:32 Since I've been so Youtube link happy lately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGsEvE18eykBrilliant! Has anyone ever seen a crowd that large leaving Finch Farm for an away game?? Jeez. So awesome.Danny O'Neill -Those beads come in handy, but going to Mass is dandy.Butts in pews Danny, butts in pews. Dennis Stevens 84 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:05:58 How dare you speak ill of Nev, Mike?! The man's a god - with a godly physique to match! Will Mabon 85 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:12:57 Link Neil Copeland 86 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:15:06 Who has got Dave A's lump of coal? Mike Gaynes 87 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:19:28 Thanks Jamie and Will for posting. That's awesome.Love the little blond kid with the Davies hair bun... and the Richarlison shirt. Confused, but committed.Dennis #84, more Buddha than godlike. Allen Rodgers 88 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:23:50 Amazing scenes at Goodison on Sunday and now at Finch Farm. Can anyone imagine the scenes if we actually won something ? Makes me prouder than ever to be a Blue. Ed Prytherch 89 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:33:51 Tarkowski went off with a knee injury. He is out of contract at the end of the season and I doubt that he will want to risk playing again and potentially screw up the deal with his next club.Burnley were found out today. The ale house team could not play the high press. Mike Gaynes 90 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:33:53 So happy to see Shitbucket United losing again. Rangnick making an absolute ass of himself today by calling Greenwood's arrest a "human disaster"... for Greenwood, his family and the club. No mention of the victim.Dickhead. Ray Roche 91 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:35:53 Well said Mike. The victim is often forgotten when celebrities are concerned. Tony Hill 92 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:37:18 Spot on, Mike. What a disgrace. Rob Halligan 93 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:40:52 Brighton 2-0. 😀😀😀 Danny O’Neill 94 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:42:00 WHEN we win something Allan it will be something that the football world hasn't experienced. Rob Halligan 95 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:47:03 Brighton 3-0. 😀😀😀 Tony Everan 96 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:48:13 Brilliant from Brighton, Man Utd all over the place. Mike Gaynes 97 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:49:06 Love it. Love it. Love it. Rob Halligan 98 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:50:16 Brighton 4-0. 😀😀😀😀I'm getting fed up updating the score! Mike Gaynes 99 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:51:34 And LOVE IT. Humiliate the scummy bastards. What a save. Tony Hill 100 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:51:48 I should add that I am not assuming guilt (if I may say so, a modern liberal fault and "victim" is a loaded term, Mike) but I do say that Rangnick should not be burying the incident in a common "human" context which is another cheap manoeuvre.Things are complex; we live in the age of television simplicity. Danny O’Neill 101 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:52:11 Throw money at the problem and have a dysfunctional transfer strategy including bring back a golden boy past his best. Sound familiar albeit on a different scale obviously. Neil Copeland 102 Posted 07/05/2022 at 18:55:35 Danny, no idea who you are talking about……😄 Danny O’Neill 103 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:00:01 Bring the more expensive version of Michael Keane on. This should sought it out. Rob Halligan 104 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:01:07 Damage limitation, Danny. Neil Copeland 105 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:02:24 Looks like damage limitation from Manure with Maguire on to replace Mata. They certainly appear to have big problems, that's what they get for taking advice from blue Bill.Edit, sorry Rob, you beat me to it Mike Gaynes 106 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:10:31 Tony "alleged" victim instead? Dennis Stevens 107 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:10:39 So we have 5 matches to play in the next 15 days, but Manure only have one more match to play?!?!?! Rob Halligan 108 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:14:34 Maybe I need to re-assess my points total for Leeds. If Brighton can play like they have done here, particularly in the second half, then they can go to Leeds and win. Both Burnley and Leeds to finish on 34 points. Will Mabon 109 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:18:57 United have no more games until the final day of the season. How has it been scheduled that way? Will Mabon 110 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:21:21 Snap, Dennis - hadn't updated before posting. But, yes; how has that occurred? Rob Halligan 111 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:23:37 Will, don't think they had any games postponed due to covid, plus the fact they got knocked out the fa cup early doors. Watford and palace are re-arranged games for us due to us getting to the quarter finals of the cup, and palace then beating us, when that game against them was scheduled for semi final day. Brent Stephens 112 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:24:51 Jeez, I went out earlier to do the lawn and came back to find Burnley 3-0 down. I come back to the TV now after cutting the hedge to see United lost 4-0. What should I do tomorrow?! Neil Copeland 113 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:26:32 Rob # 108, plus Brighton have been better away from home this season Will Mabon 114 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:30:58 That must be it, Rob, I guess. Could imagine a couple difference to us 'cos of what you describe - seems odd though that they are the only team to have played 37. Jay Harris 115 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:35:51 Brent go and cut your lawn and hedge against tomorrow and just to make sure do your neighbours too. Dennis Stevens 116 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:35:55 Were Manure not also playing in some European competition this season as well? It's a good job we didn't qualify for Europe last season! Brent Stephens 117 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:39:00 Jay "Brent go and cut your lawn and hedge against tomorrow and just to make sure do your neighbours too."One neighbour is a red, with a hedge cut to resemble Klopp. Might just take my wobbly shears. Will Mabon 118 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:43:39 Not sure without going back through it all, Dennis. Even allowing for all that it seems odd. They've played 37, two others played 36, the rest less. If those three are all on schedule then nearly the rest of the league are some way behind.We of course, with Leicester, have the busiest run-in. Nothing easy this season! Tony Hill 119 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:46:46 Mike @106, I think so.The presumption of innocence is a vital safeguard. They are fools who assume that their views as to the guilt of others are correct.It is, if I may broaden the debate, the besetting sin of the Puritan liberal-left that they assume the wrongness of those who reject their prejudices. We know what is best for you and woe betide you if you dare to disagree, that is the Credo.Scratch the surface of any left-liberal who is defied and you will find a tyrant. Dave Abrahams 120 Posted 07/05/2022 at 19:54:24 Neil (86), my grandson Sonny is taking that piece of coal tomorrow, he had been to Finch Farm today then came back to pick it up and put it in a safe pocket for it's journey to Leicester tomorrow.I knew Villa were winning 1-0 then I put the TV off and my IPad away and got stuck into a book, forgot I was going for a meal with my wife around 4-30pm so I left the final scores alone, knew it would have spoilt my mood and the meal if Burnley had turned it around.Got back about a quarter of an hour ago and put the highlights on Sky and delighted to see the score, good job now that I never knew the score would have got my wife a puddin', sorry dessert, if I'd known Burnley had lost!! Neil Copeland 121 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:02:37 Dave #120, that's good news, hope he enjoys the game and, along with the coal, brings us luck.No need to be too extravagant, desserts are expensive. Paul Birmingham 122 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:17:11 Good results today, for Everton now for Everton get a result at Leicester.Brighton look like they won't be getting ready for the beach, so hopefully will give Leeds a game and tomorrow Arsenal to do the business.Chelsea mid week, may be focusing on Wembley, and are in a dip by their previous form a month ago. Leeds though have injuries too, so hopefully Chelsea can do a win double this week, do Leeds and The RS.Still it's up to Everton to deliver the same level of performance as last Sunday.UTFT! Tony Everan 123 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:21:41 Dave, a win tomorrow and is Black Forest Gateaux time. Danny O’Neill 124 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:25:35 Dave, that piece of coal is going with us tomorrow.Today's results went well for us.But tomorrow is about us taking ownership of our own destiny.Come on blue boys. I will be there with you Joe McMahon 125 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:38:05 Good luck to all travelling (Everton) blues tomorrow, and make sure the players listen to you and bring back 3 points (please). I'm going on holiday tomorrow (which yes of course i'm looking foward to) but missing 3 games :-( Jay Harris 126 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:46:57 Brent if you could just cut Klopps head off that would be a Bogof moment. Jeff Armstrong 127 Posted 07/05/2022 at 20:59:05 Get in Spurs Neil Copeland 128 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:01:36 Yesss, come on Spurs 0-1 Dale Self 129 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:03:43 A little early but yesssss. Well set up too. Conte doing an italian job on the RS Will Mabon 130 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:04:54 Quadruple trophy looking up cheap holiday deals online... Mike Corcoran 131 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:10:40 RS are sick as a Manc right now Tony Everan 132 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:11:21 Mr. Klopp will be doing his Conrad Poohs impressions soon. ….Don't forget they've still got their bespoke get out of jail, VAR card to play. Mike Corcoran 133 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:11:55 Yellow cards out at last for the RS Jeff Armstrong 134 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:23:20 Forearm smash by Fabhino …not even mentioned or looked at, farce. Peter Neilson 135 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:41:32 Decent of Oliver to allow one last corner. Any questions asked and the FA will intervene. Brent Stephens 136 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:43:44 Well that was slightly good. How sad. Brent Stephens 137 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:44:44 I don't like to crow... Allen Rodgers 138 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:49:53 Disgraceful that the RS weren't awarded their traditional penalty. Good weekend so far !! Dale Self 139 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:51:22 Yay City can retake the goal difference advantage tmrw v Nocastle. See you in the morning Dave Lynch 140 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:52:16 If we win tommorow I'll open a tin of mixed fruit and get the evap milk out. Ray Roche 141 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:52:33 @137Yes you do.😠Brent Stephens 142 Posted 07/05/2022 at 21:54:28 You know me too well, Ray! Ray Roche 143 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:05:14 🤣I'm sucking an industrial strength lemon here and I still can't get the smile off my face😠Christopher Timmins 144 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:05:52 It's been a great weekend results wise. A positive result tomorrow should lead to a victory at Watford.Expecting at least 5 points from the next 3 games. Neil Copeland 145 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:13:33 Dave #140, that's very extravagant that mate Paul Hewitt 146 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:14:22 I'm convinced some fan would take relegation and the rs won nothing. Dave Lynch 147 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:16:47 Gotta celebrate in style Neil. Simon Dalzell 148 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:19:05 Sorry Stephen ( 51). I wouldn't have backed them at 600/1. Good luck though. Brent Stephens 149 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:19:48 Leicester not easy at all tomorrow. Watford on paper looks decent but that home game against them... And then Brentford who are firing on all cylinders. I'm not getting carried away.Neil, xmas day must be a ball Chez Lynch. Neil Copeland 150 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:28:37 Brent #149, corned beef butties I reckon Mike Gaynes 151 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:28:43 Tony #119, don't give me that right-wing crapola. The political right is the midwife and cradle of human intolerance, racism and bigotry. Always has been, always will be. I have seen it firsthand.Conservatism, the fearful opposition to change and freedom of thought, gave the world the Crusades, the Reformation, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, fascism, Nazism and despots and military dictators worldwide over the centuries. None of them were liberals.In America, conservatives opposed the very establishment of the nation itself, not to mention freeing the slaves, establishing public schools, the vote for blacks and women, child labor laws, Social Security, Medicare and every environmental and civil rights law ever written.Today the right-wing stocking of the Supreme Court is about to give primacy to the religious beliefs of one-third of Americans over the beliefs of the other two-thirds with regards to abortion, and is taking the individual rights and freedoms of women back 50 years in the process. No liberal has ever called me Jewboy and painted swastikas on the walls of my dorm room in university. It wasn't liberals who called me un-American for not marrying a white woman. It wasn't liberals who screamed "Go back to China!" and directed insulting signs at my wife during the last election. Or spray-painted Trump's name on historic Jewish grave markers, one of them a relative, in Michigan on Election Day.You want to broaden the debate, eh? Bring it on. I've published a half-dozen articles on this topic relating to anti-Semitism alone. And I'm always happy to share my thoughts on the subject. Oliver Molloy 152 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:34:56 No chest pumping today from widemouth - fecking arsehole. Tony Abrahams 153 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:38:25 Each to their own Paul H. I asked my red mates who constantly bombard me, would they sooner win the league or see Everton relegated? Don't be stupid they said, we're not like youse, but I got a few days respite after we beat Chelsea, which proved to me, that actions speak louder than words! Neil Copeland 154 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:38:33 Mike #151, I wasn't aware of your history (even the small part you have highlighted), full respect to you sir. Tony Hill 155 Posted 07/05/2022 at 22:56:31 Thanks Mike @151, the sort of frothing reply I expected.Read Elizabeth Anscombe, John Finnis, Robert George and Patrick Lee - proper philosophers - on the hideousness of abortion and why it is wrong on all counts. But you've already decided, haven't you, and thinking too hard and too rigorously about it is too painful. It's one of your sacraments. It's the disgusting intellectual dishonesty of the Liberal Left that is so appalling.Come back to me when you've digested the arguments as opposed to the slogans. Read the philosophers I've mentioned above. There are no comparably strong thinkers on your side. Tony Hill 156 Posted 07/05/2022 at 23:23:00 PS Mike, have a look at the record of the British and Global Left on anti-semitism recently. It's a total disgrace.Lest you misunderstand my position, I am very much a Socialist and I was before you came to political consciousness so I will take no lectures from you.I distinguish your Media/College Liberalism from the authentic variety of Socialist thought which had at its heart a serious regard for the human person, as opposed to vacuous identity tosh with its condescending Bloomsbury/Californian bile.But, hey, bring it on. Mike Gaynes 157 Posted 07/05/2022 at 00:17:07 Tony, sorry you found all those facts so "frothy", but I must say I find it ironic that you accuse others of intellectual dishonesty when the only philosophers you read are Catholic adherents of Thomism who support your own beliefs about abortion. Talk about already deciding... you openly dismiss any other points of view. The thing is, the belief that life begins at conception... and that abortion is therefore murder... is a teaching of Catholicism and evangelical Protestantism -- and no other religion on Earth shares it. You have never met, and will never meet, a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Sikh or a Shinto who believes it. All religions view abortion negatively, but none call it murder. (The traditional belief in Judaism is that life begins at first breath, not conception... and abortion to save the mother's life is not only permitted but required. ) So what we see in the US is adherents of one religious belief using the government -- and in some states, legal private vigilantism -- to force members of all other religions to obey theirs. And by denying exemptions for rape and incest, warped politicians are perversely forcing 14-year-old girls to carry their rape-induced pregnancies to term, no matter what their parents and doctors believe is best for them. You used the words "hideousness" and "appalling" -- that's where they best apply in my view. And if you consider that to be an example of "a serious regard for the human person", then we have very different ideas of what constitutes humanity.As for anti-Semitism, I know one hell of a lot more about it than you ever will, so please don't lecture me on the sources of it. Of course it exists on the far Left, but it's utterly dwarfed by the vehemence and violence of right-wing anti-Semitism. In the American Trumpy right it's a core belief that Jews are conspirators and subversives who run a worldwide cabal to subvert white people, traffic children for sex, and promote Satanism. This is not fringe today -- it's mainstream. Republicans in Congress say it at rallies. And the guy who slaughtered 11 elderly Jews at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh had extensively quoted those beliefs online. Take refuge in the safe pages of your comfy philosophers if you wish. I look at the world as it is and make my judgements from that. Tony Hill 158 Posted 08/05/2022 at 00:34:25 As I say, Mike - and I note you've been on Wikipedia - read the texts, think and shake yourself out of your liberal prejudices.There's nothing "comfy" about Anscombe et al, as you'll discover if you can be bothered to read them which I suspect you never will.You're intellectually idle, comfortable with your dim, liberal assumptions and terrified of anything which might challenge your prejudices. Fair enough. Brian Denton 159 Posted 08/05/2022 at 00:45:49 Tony/Mike - wow! Ron Morgan 160 Posted 08/05/2022 at 01:15:31 I was under the impression this site was to post comments about Everton football club and not for political debate. i.e. Tony and Mike. Quite embarrassing really. Mike Gaynes 161 Posted 08/05/2022 at 01:19:13 Tony...Do you find personal insults like idle/dim/terrified/frothing to be an effective debating tactic? For one who derides condescension, you certainly seem to employ it often.No, I have no time for sitting in an overstuffed chair reading philosophy. I've been too busy living life and drawing my own conclusions from my own experiences rather than a self-affirming book. You're outraged by intellectual dishonesty and liberal slogans. I'm outraged by violence and venomous bigotry and the vicious racial abuse directed at the person I love the most in the world. So we differ. And if that makes me "dim" and "idle" in your view, so be it. Christine Foster 162 Posted 08/05/2022 at 02:46:54 "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"Mark Twain.I am sure both the far right and far left of any faith, are to blame for the injustice felt on it's receiving end. The internet is a wonderful yet dreadful place to try to justify a stance..because it's a place where anonymity replaces common sense. No matter how valid the points are. Mike Gaynes 163 Posted 08/05/2022 at 03:17:35 I would never argue with Mark Twain, Christine, but if the points are valid and our names are on them, are we idiots? Bernie Quinn 164 Posted 08/05/2022 at 03:18:09 Thank the Lord you have made a comment Christine. Was getting a little concerned as I hadn't read anything from you for a few days and wondered if you were poorly or the tenseness of the games had affevted you. ZGlad to see I am wrong! Derek Moore 165 Posted 08/05/2022 at 07:31:22 FWIW, I'm glad Burnley lost. Bernie Quinn 166 Posted 08/05/2022 at 07:46:29 PS - Try not to scream too loud tonight Christine. I've had a bad day today healthwise, so I will have to miss the game. My turn to go to hospital tomorrow to be poked and pushed. Hope they don't keep me in - what with the season's climax nigh on us! Danny O’Neill 167 Posted 08/05/2022 at 07:59:07 In fairness Ron, the Matchweek thread enables us to comment on football in general, not just Everton.Nothing wrong with that - in fact, I find it healthy.The politics? Why not? Again, most on here are sensible people so it is usually good discussion and debate.Michael is a good leader of Parliament and cuts people off when they step out of line or gives a warning, as he has done to me on several occasions!!! Christine Foster 168 Posted 08/05/2022 at 08:09:21 Mike, trying to make a point in your defense to be honest, I found getting involved in politics on here is fraught with frustrating comments made often to wind up Christine Foster 169 Posted 08/05/2022 at 08:20:04 Bernie, good luck tomorrow, been spending a few days with family in Rotorua and Cambridge which has been good, just on the long drive back to Hawera.. what a weekend, hope it ends well,. ! Duncan McDine 170 Posted 08/05/2022 at 08:36:32 Just flicking through TW seeing what I've missed, and somewhere between the fabulous send off they got at FF and the uplifting poem, I've managed to stumble upon American politics (yet again) on the best EVERTON FORUM out there. That shit isn't on, Mike and Tony. You're both guilty and we're the fucking victims! Duncan McDine 171 Posted 08/05/2022 at 08:43:47 Dave Lynch - that's proper funny! If we stay up, you'll be cracking open the meringue nests (and yes, I did have to google how to spell ‘meringue') Duncan Lennard 172 Posted 08/05/2022 at 09:17:45 I've no right or ability to comment on far right/far left politics, but what I do see here is one man earnestly trying to play the ball while the other is way more interested in playing the man. That tells me something about your respective positions. Anyway… how about those Knicks? Derek Moore 173 Posted 08/05/2022 at 11:07:02 Those Knicks are dreadful, torn between a youth movement and veterans and not doing a very good job of blending them together. They desperately need a point guard. The Kemba experiment failed miserably and Quickley is no one guard. The sad and somewhat shambolic sight of Alec Burks trying to initiate sets and run the offense will live long in the memory. Randle has regressed, Fournier is what he is and will they re-sign Mitch Rob or not? The Noel contract seemed excessive at the time, and almost criminally bad now. Can only hope they do have a deal lined up with Zion as IQ, Barrett and Superman Cam are exciting prospects with a very high ceiling. But without playmaking and ball handling it's difficult to see how the Knickerbockers remain competitive in the East let alone take that next step. It's tough all over. Dennis Stevens 174 Posted 08/05/2022 at 11:35:17 What's a "Knick"? Duncan Lennard 175 Posted 08/05/2022 at 11:41:00 Thankyou Derek! So now I know. Can't disagree with any of that… or agree with it if truth be known. Was beginning to wonder if you were making a cryptic analogy to the plight of the Toffees but hey, let's not bring them into this. Duncan Lennard 176 Posted 08/05/2022 at 11:43:40 Dennis, I'll let Derek handle that one. I suspect you'll get a better answer. Steve Brown 177 Posted 08/05/2022 at 12:00:27 Mike @ 161, what is a left-liberal anyway and how you become one? Is it like a right-fascist but just a different persuasion? Alan McGuffog 178 Posted 08/05/2022 at 12:10:59 Conservatism gave the world the Reformation AND the Inquisition. I'm trying to get my head around that one David Midgley 179 Posted 08/05/2022 at 12:24:24 Mike, I'll bet a few pints with you is a fun time. I'd hate to hear you when you were serious. 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