Pointless and Costly

Jordan Pickford
Leighton Baines
Michael Keane
Ashley Williams
Phil Jagielka
Mason Holgate
Morgan Schneiderlin
Idrissa Gueye
Tom Davies
Wayne Rooney
Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Subs:
Gylfi Sigurðsson
Davy Klaassen
Muhamed Bešic

Unused Subs:
Maarten Stekelenburg
Cuco Martina
Kevin Mirallas
Ademola Lookman

All the Man City goals were due to poor defensive play:

The first the result of a tired Seamus Coleman taking a breather and failing by a yard to step up to Everton's defensive line, playing Sterling on side. Keane had turned in to keep the defensive line intact. Coleman had played two internationals in the previous week, at age 33.

The second was Keane turning his back on the ball rather than standing his ground, which would have prevented the pass for the goal.

The third was Allan committing the cardinal error of passing across his own backline.

Iowbi was poor, giving away possession. Him clear on the left was never going to score, and on the right, supposedly his best, he could not clear the first defender. His tracking back was poor and he was nowhere for the cross for the first goal.

Rondon would have been better than Richarlison, who was basically ignored as a threat by the Man City defence, getting himself a yellow.

Everton are just not up to much at the moment and an injuried player may even drag his feet in wanting to play. This is the result of underlying problems identified before Benitez arrived and the reason why he got the job.

Poor recruitment, poor training effort and work (especially during the International break), poor processes of recovery, allowing aged players to dictate, and no money due to poor expenditure.

I pondered what the two BBC "expert analysts" had to say about the match: they were Jermaine Jenas and Conor Coady. Both followed the narrative as to the excellence of Man City, and the near impossibility of a defence coping with City's quality and variation of play, and, of course, the sheer quality of the individuals City have.

There was barely, if any, mention of the performance of the Everton team. We were rendered cipher-like status in this encounter, mere playthings for the home team, and sadly, the match stats back it up.

Barry (#1) – that line-up from 2017 looks vastly superior to the team we put out against City in 2021, if we assume the likes of Rooney and Schneiderlin play to their capacity. Proof positive that, in real terms, we are actually regressing, as things stand.

It seems to me 12th to 16th is a likely finish this season. It's possible we could get into a relegation dogfight but my hope is we can at least get a player or two in January that are genuine first-teamers to stop the rot.

I do not blame Benitez for this. He's got absolute dog shite to work with.

I'd bite your hand off to finish 16th. This is the worst squad of players since Howard Kendall Mk 3; and however bad that squad was, at least they put their all into it, just enough to keep us in the Premier League. In similar circumstances, I couldn't see this lot doing the same.

Even ToffeeWeb has gone quiet with its normal angry posts... Has everyone given up?

He would be far more useful involved in the game in one of the wide positions. We might as well use Rondon to run around up front so long as the role remains one of providing nothing more than nuisance value.

John#11, sounds about right to me.

Watching the game against Man City has had an effect on me. There was no respite and no redeeming factors to latch on to. It's hard to get motivated after that to even come up with a post. So well done, Lyndon, for this, another accurate and well written one.

John, I much prefer Richarlison playing as a roaming left forward. He stiffens the midfield with his defensive work, can find more space, have a run cutting inside, draw fouls and pop up with a goal too. A super player to have for us in that position. I feel, when he is not playing there, we are weaker both offensively and defensively. The sooner he is back on the left, the better.

The problem is then who temporarily plays through the middle to get on the end of crosses? Rondon? Simms? The Brillo Pad would probably be a marginally better bet if he was fit enough.

Leave the right side to Gordon or Townsend but the latter may be required to make up a midfield three because of injuries.

While I agree with you, the problem is (as the Esk and others have pointed out) that the board all report to Moshiri – and he seems to have no interest in shaking them up. He holds over 90% of the shares, so it's his decision (unless any resign and create an opportunity).

However even shaking up the board doesn't change the fact that our squad is stuffed with highly paid players with little or no sell-on potential – many of whom have contracts which run to summer 2024.

I believe that FFP is under review, but if it continues in its current form, it seems that the only way we can change the squad over the next 2 years is:

1. Replace out-of-contract players with very cheap or free transfers (more deals like Andros, Demarai and the ancient goalies for the next 2 years).

2. Sell the more saleable ones, eg, Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison, Pickford & Doucouré. Seems inevitable that those with options will go if we cannot give them a good reason to stay.

3. Hope the Academy can produce a couple that can function on the Premier League stage.

So we go 4-3-2-1, with a midfield of Allan, Delph and Onyango (Gbamin is just never going to make it – as much as we all wish he would so give youth a chance!). Leaving us to play Gordon and Townsend off Rondon probably. Sack Iwobi off!

We need to go back to being difficult to beat and snatching the odd win here or there but at least getting points on the board with draws. If we don't get the points tally moving up (even with draws) we will get sucked in closer and closer to that Bottom 3.

Last season, it was the same wonderful team, who can stop them? The best team in the Premier League. I remember saying they would not win the Premier League. It will be the same this season.

Everton were just very poor and made them look better than they really are.

How is it that Spurs are £700 million in debt, yet they're not crippled by FFP?

What are you talking about? Man City won the Premier League last season.

How do Everton copy that model? Impossible, l reckon till the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is built and we also possibly need another owner soon after. Till then, we have to buy or loan some players that actually improve us.

Branthwaite and Simms need a go. I also want a new manager but that won't happen. We also need forward players that know how to keep the ball. Embarrassed by our possession stats. You need the ball to score a goal.

I put the highlights on of Man City vs Everton 2000-01, with the great Shawn Goater leading their line. Joe Royle was their manager too. We had the likes of Pembridge, Naismith, Gemmil and Nyarko. They slaughtered us 5-0 and we were pathetic. City actually got relegated that year to show how bad we were.

It just brings home how shit we are and have been for so long.

Even though I have no idea who or what sort of team we will cobble together at the weekend, the optimist in me can only go along to a corner off west London with hope.

I'm still not talking to you Everton, but I will be on Sunday. I can't help myself. Addict / fool / lost cause*

*Delete as appropriate or all of the above.

I feel your pain but you're getting to see it close up which is harder than TV.

Best wishes this weekend and hopefully the Blues can finally give you a bit of pain relief.
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Okay, I was wrong. Don't follow Man City.

Just pointing out that Everton were very poor.

"Addict / fool / lost cause* – *Delete as appropriate or all of the above."

Okay – I'll leave you with fool!

Have a good flight back. Be in touch.

I don't think they will win it either, but I could be wrong, as I was last year. I judge them on displays against Everton and quite frankly I see more poor football from Everton than good play from Man City. Chelsea are the main competition and look a lot better than them. By winning the Champions League, Chelsea trumped them with Premier League victory so much so I thought they hadn't won it.

Everton don't have the structure or personnel to have a model anything like Chelsea.

Allan injured, slight musclular injury that is disrupting his training this week. Not yet been ruled out for Brentford.

Perhaps with Doucouré, Calvert-Lewin, Mina and Gray (for the whole match) we'd have done a bit better – but it seems we need our best team fit to compete in the top half.

Sadly I'm looking down the table for points again rather than up – I wonder we can scrape something against Brentford.

It's been a problem for a few seasons now. Even when we had numbers, we struggled once you got past our first 14. Sadly that is now down to literally the first 11 or 12, depending on individual views on the centre-backs I would say.

Scratch the surface and we're bang average at best.

I appreciate that a combination of necessity to reduce costs and wages due to FFP because of the self-inflicted wound caused by reckless spending and lack of strategy plus unfortunate circumstances. But to have a part-time James Rodriguez, a hit-and-miss Bernard and yes, Sigurdsson available and in the squad right now.

I don't think 4-4-2 necessarily leaves us short in the middle, it depends on who the wide midfielders are. If the wide players play as midfielders instead of wingers then we get a compact midfield 4 which can work.

Personally I think that this can work with Townsend and Richarlison as the midfielders, they are both disciplined defensively and have the stamina to break forward.

4-4-2 had its place at a period of time. Maybe it will again. But in my opinion, in the modern / current game, you are exposed and overrun (overloaded) by playing 2 in the middle. Either that, or like you say, sacrifice width, which is what stretches the opposition and creates space.

In honesty, the reality is that formations are fluid nowadays. We're not quite NFL, but you see formations switch as play progresses between being in possession / attacking and then getting behind the ball / defending.

When I was a kid, our local parish priest (mad Everton fan) started saying weekly prayers for Everton to arrest the decline, starting in the Colin Harvey era.

As a bit of a wind-up, this priest from Oldham who'd come to town to cover his annual holiday started making us pray for Oldham who were useless at the time. On about his third visit, Oldham won promotion to the top flight that weekend.

Our lad and his Everton prayers never had such luck. He even died right before May 1995

Whatever about Everton, no prayers on earth are going to help my local Waterford FC. 2-1 down in tonight's relegation playoff as we speak. Not surprising really after sacking their manager a few days before their biggest game in a decade.

This season alone would make a great book. From the appointment of Kevin Sheedy and Mike Newell at the start of the season (which turned out to be a disaster), to then going a great run and looked like avoiding the relegation playoff before fading towards the end of the season.

They make Everton look like a well run club.

The priest's first parish was in Swansea and after a few weeks he got up in the pulpit and told his new parishioners. “Let's get one thing straight, you all think I'm from Liverpool, I'm not from Liverpool, I'm from Everton” – which was the truth as The Four Squares was in Everton.

A very nice family but Evertonians right down to their roots and couldn't stand Liverpool.

It's good that he got his priorities right to get the parish on the same page. lol