Tottenham Hotspur vs Everton

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A small calf problem will keep Yerry Mina sidelined for another match at least

Everton travel to the Capital for the second time this season when they take on high-flying Tottenham hoping to get back on track after Sunday's defeat to Manchester United.

The Blues take on Antonio Conte's third-place outfit having seen their own six-match unbeaten run in the Premier League come to an end when they lost 2-1 to the Red Devils under the Goodison lights.

It was a reality check for Frank Lampard's side but one that the manager hopes he and his players can learn from as they look to build towards mid-table stability and respectability during his first full season in charge.

“The Premier League will always throw up difficulties,”  he said during his press conference at Finch Farm today. “People probably make us underdogs in these next two games. Let's enjoy it and see what we can do.

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“We read a lot of opinions at the start of the season that we were going down and I was first to be sacked. There's nothing better than proving people wrong.”

Lampard won't be able to call on Yerry Mina this weekend, however. The Colombian had hoped to be available this weekend but has, in the words of manager Frank Lampard, had a setback in his recovery from the injury that has sidelined him since August in the form of a calf complaint.

Mason Holgate's comeback is also on hold as he won't be available either as he works his way back from a knee injury, though he is thought to be close. Anthony Gordon, meanwhile, is suspended after picking up five bookings in just nine games but Abdoulaye Doucouré is back after missing last weekend's match due to a personal issue.

And it looks unlikely that Dominic Calvert-Lewin will be ready to start at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, with the manager indicating that he is still being eased back to full fitness.

“We're in a process with Dominic,” Lampard explained. “He's not taking part in every part of training in terms of where we would want to push to him to get him completely match fit so we'll just have to see over the next days and weeks how to get him up to that optimum level.”

Lampard said, however, that he hopes to have Nathan Patterson back in “two to three weeks while it looks as though Ben Godfrey will have to wait until after the World Cup before is completely healed from a leg fracture sustained on the opening day against Chelsea.

This late Saturday kick-off sees Everton come up against Richarlison for the first time since he left Goodison for North London over the summer in a deal worth an initial £55m.

The Brazilian has been starting more regularly for Spurs in recent weeks and would be a good bet to be in Conte's line-up for what will no doubt be an emotional moment for him and some of his former team-mates. Dejan Kulusevski will missing, however, because of injury.

Everton will need to keep their minds on the job this weekend, though, concentrate on tightening things back up in defence, finding ways of hurting what is a talented Spurs side at the other end and avoiding the kind of tactical naivete that saw them thrashed 5-0 in this fixture last season.

Kick-off: 5:30pm, Saturday 15 October 2022
Referee: Paul Tierney
VAR: Stuart Attwell
Last Time: Tottenham 5 - 0  Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, McNeil, Gray, Maupay


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Terry Nolan
1 Posted 13/10/2022 at 21:57:28
Once again, sicknote has a injury.

I really like Mina; however, Everton just cannot depend on him to be fit. Yet, if he plays for his country, he never misses a game.

If rumour is true Inter want him in January sell him not worth the headache and save £100k/week

Mark Andersson
2 Posted 13/10/2022 at 21:58:19
More reason to get shut of Mina in January...
Andy Crooks
3 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:04:11
Get shut to whom, Mark?
John Pickles
4 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:05:47
He's starting to make Darron Gibson look like Captain Scarlet.
Nick Page
5 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:14:50
More commitment from the French in WW2 than this fucker. Good centre-half but who cares if he can't or won't play?

Watched Rio and Worf talk about playing with “niggles” every game on Sunday. Absolutely true. This twat gets injured clipping his toenails. Get rid and we move on.

Christy Ring
6 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:17:58
Should have wrapped him up in cotton wool during the summer, and gave him away, £120k per week, as big a sicknote as Delph.

He'll go nowhere in January, because no one will match his wages, and go free in the summer.

Derek Thomas
7 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:25:09
Mina injured again; well knock me down with a feather, I bet nobody spotted that one, straight out of left field, proper surprise and no mistake guv. etc,etc

Serial (LMF?) sicknote in 'yet another injury' shocker!

Bin, asap.

Nick Page
8 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:38:43
I don't think he is injured; he just can't be arsed. Has a bit of twinge.

Basically what Rio said on Sunday. If you can't commit, then fuck off.

Paul Birmingham
9 Posted 13/10/2022 at 22:39:21
Raises questions about the Drs, and medics who support Everton.

So predictable, so what’s the real under lying issue with Minas fitness?

As many have said on this thread and previous threads, you can5 build a team with players with such poor fitness and recovery levels.

Hopefully the last of such players at Everton.

Geoff Lambert
10 Posted 13/10/2022 at 23:01:27
Our very own Elijah Price.
Barry Rathbone
11 Posted 13/10/2022 at 23:04:12
Is it a Colombian thing - James Rodriguez syndrome?

On a serious note, the transfer policy of this club needs to focus on robustness the amount of sicknotes we buy is incredible

Mike Connolly
12 Posted 13/10/2022 at 23:04:29
We won't be able to get shut, no-one will take him – just like Delph. Delph had to retire with lack of interest in him.

Gomes – the French are surprised how slow he is even, in their league. He must be running in slow motion. We've had some shockers at our club, no wonder we nearly got relegated…

Derek Knox
13 Posted 13/10/2022 at 23:48:01
Hypothesis: if players’ contracts stipulated that, if injury were to occur, so therefore not playing, their earnings would revert to a basic 'non-playing wage' like sick pay does for most people. Would they recover quicker?

I think we all know the answer to that one!

Lester Yip
14 Posted 14/10/2022 at 00:33:17
I think some players will receive appearance bonus, assist bonus, score bonus etc depend on the contract signed. So the player might have lost some bonuses if not playing.

But think about it, if we have put a "non-playing wage" contract terms in the first place, the players that we want might have signed for another club. Back to demand and supply. How desperate the club wants a player. Think about what Mbappe got into his contract with PSG.

Also, will a player be worried about getting injured and pull out from 50-50 challenge?

Don Alexander
15 Posted 14/10/2022 at 02:15:12
Mina personifies the ineptitude of the club, with a couple of dozen other dead-wood characters – minimum, when it comes to Moshiri and his chosen-one chairman being able to identify anything close to a fully switched-on, committed professional footballer.

Walsh and Brands were mere window-dressing, obviously, and deliberately so.

Hopefully Lampard and Thelwell can gain enough purchase in whatever the crazed minds of Moshiri and Kenwright are to at last feasibly get us into the top half of the league, but I ain't holding my breath this season, or next.

We are still shite as trophy contenders – period – with those tossers in charge.

Brian Cleveland
16 Posted 14/10/2022 at 03:05:35
From Colombia, I can say that everyone has forgotten about him just about. He was a hero for an hour with a couple of goals in the World Cup; apart from that, nothing much to say I'm afraid.

At the least the Daily Mail hasn't yet claimed he'll miss the World Cup because of injury like they did Luis Díaz the other day... I'm sure they'll manage to limp to a TV together somewhere.

Kieran Kinsella
17 Posted 14/10/2022 at 03:14:15

Welcome back, mate. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a big, heavy lad, good in the air but all that impact doesn't do much good for the knees, ankles, hips etc. I just wonder if the modern game is too much for him?

He may be a sick note, I don't know I've never met him so can't comment on his character but, as a 6ft-4in fellow myself, after a lifetime of playing rugby then football since my mid-30s, my knees are shot with virtually no cartilage; my hips are on the way out, and if there was a way I could get a bionic metatarsal I'd get it. And I was just an enthusiastic amateur not competing in the hurly burly of the Premier League.

Ajay Gopal
18 Posted 14/10/2022 at 03:23:42
You know what, Brian (16), I actually hope he gets fit enough to be selected for the World Cup.

Why? Because FIFA compensates the employing club the players' wages when they are off for the 6 weeks in Qatar.

Jay Harris
19 Posted 14/10/2022 at 04:22:32
I am more concerned to learn that DCL is not yet in full training and is only doing limited exercises as they get him back to full fitness.
Kieran Kinsella
20 Posted 14/10/2022 at 04:39:05

I think the point Brian is making is that Colombia didn't qualify for the World Cup

Steve Brown
21 Posted 14/10/2022 at 04:58:39
I like big Yerry, but averaging 19 games a season does not represent good value for £120k a week. We now have good coverage on this position on the squad as well.

He'll leave next summer on a free.

Darryl Ritchie
23 Posted 14/10/2022 at 05:39:45
He has all the tools: size, speed, touch. If only he gave a shit and could stay healthy for a month or two, he would be our best defender. But he doesn't and can't seem to.

He's my biggest disappointment in the current squad.

But then again, I'm on the outside (a ways outside!) looking in and don't have a bloody clue as to what's actually happening. I don't know the extent of his injury, or his attitude, with respect to the club.

Still disappointed, though.

Mike Gaynes
24 Posted 14/10/2022 at 06:11:42
I haven't seen anybody play for us who cares more than Mina. I've never seen a minute of him on the pitch where he wasn't giving his absolute best and wasn't our most verbal and passionate defender.

He's frequently injured. It's a career-long problem. He's either wildly unlucky or, more likely, he's just not built for this game. He's heavy on his feet and runs at a gallop like a giraffe, and that's not a formula for durability.

But anybody accusing him of not giving a shit or lacking commitment can piss up a rope as far as I'm concerned.

Tony Hill
25 Posted 14/10/2022 at 06:43:36
Jay@19, I agree.

I'm worried about tomorrow. When our defence had Man Utd forwards running at it last week, we looked at a loss (for the first time this season). You can triple that threat with Spurs.

Let's hope we have gathered ourselves and, in particular, our concentration. The continuing absence of a potent attack is, of course, a problem.

Perhaps a Spurs off-day and 1-0 to us.

Terry Farrell
26 Posted 14/10/2022 at 06:49:43
100% agree, Mike. Similar poor comments last week about Dominic.

Lampard and Thelwell seem more savvy in recruitment and won't buy players with an injury-prone record – unlike their predecessors.

Tough game tomorrow but think we can frustrate Spurs because they will try to hit us on the break and we will be doing the same!

Kunal Desai
27 Posted 14/10/2022 at 07:27:12
For as much we have improved over the last few months, I expect Spurs to win this by at least 2 goals. They have the quality and creativity in the forward areas. We don't.

A better performance than last weekend would be a plus.

Jim Bennings
28 Posted 14/10/2022 at 08:22:15
In 30 years, I can probably count on one hand the games I can recall beating Spurs home or away.

Obviously the 1995 FA Cup Semi-final is the biggest but in league terms, wow, it's a horrid record I believe.

Alan McGuffog
29 Posted 14/10/2022 at 08:41:31

Was there not a period, certainly within the last 20 years, that we won two or three seasons on the run down at "The Lane"?

Or am I having one of my moments?

Laurie Hartley
30 Posted 14/10/2022 at 08:42:11
Another really tough game this one.

For me, it's 4-4 2; Lyndon's team but replace McNeil with Doucouré.

Danny O’Neill
31 Posted 14/10/2022 at 08:48:28
But when we do beat the overly glorified club that are part of the media darlings, it has signified something.

The semi-final referred to.

That 2 -1 victory and Neville Southall save that effectively clinched the title despite the National media desire for Tottenham to take it.

Here's to victory this weekend.

Kevin Molloy
32 Posted 14/10/2022 at 09:03:11
Stating the obvious perhaps but I don't fancy this one at all.
Steavey Buckley
33 Posted 14/10/2022 at 09:21:17
No Patterson at right-back but, with Gueye in midfield, Everton already look vulnerable. 2-0 or 3-0 to Spurs. I am not aware of any midfield player at Everton that doesn't keep losing the ball.
Robert Tressell
34 Posted 14/10/2022 at 09:36:19
Steavey #33,

For a difficult away game it is probably best to cede possession and play without the ball. Personally, I would play Gueye, Onana and Garner as a central 3 and play Iwobi and Gray or Gordon in the half spaces behind the striker.

Hopefully the striker is Calvert-Lewin.

And, on other posts, quite why being injured gets translated into not giving a shit, I don't know. Especially with Mina and Calvert-Lewin who always play very much as though they give a shit. Did Bracewell not give a shit? Ferguson? And since we're playing Spurs, Ledley King?

Martin Mason
35 Posted 14/10/2022 at 09:47:19
Spurs are in a mini-league above us, they have good coaches, and we are still weak up front so, unless we get lucky on the day, I see nothing but defeat.

I know some believe that we can only get beat because we are rubbish not because the opposition is simply better but that is nonsense. I'm being positive but I'd say 2-0 down, a draw would be amazing.

Steavey Buckley
36 Posted 14/10/2022 at 09:51:19
No matter what formation Everton play, Everton are giving away the ball that has led to goals being conceded.

No team can compete in the Premier League if they keep losing the ball – no matter how much team effort is put into performances. There is not one single Everton player who does not give the ball away cheaply.

But all good teams have players who don't do things. That's the gap Everton have to bridge with better players.

Nick Page
37 Posted 14/10/2022 at 10:11:16
Absolutely despise this lot. Second on my hatred list to the RS but, like my old man (RIP) used to say, at least that shower won stuff.

The media loves them for some reason. I can't stand the dirty gormless get up-front who gets every decision going. It will be the same tomorrow.

We're usually diabolical on Saturday evenings and they always somehow have a blinder against us (see some of the silly goals they've scored), so I'm not holding out much hope but I'll take a battling point all day long.

Conte will set them out 5-3-2 so we'll get the ball but we have to use it better than that shite against Man Utd. Everton aren't we?

Pat Kelly
38 Posted 14/10/2022 at 10:21:51
Let's pray Mina decides to stay and fight for his place till the well runs dry.
Geoff Lambert
39 Posted 14/10/2022 at 10:35:10
7 unbeaten then looking like three defeats on the bounce, Can't see us getting anything at Spurs or the Barcodes. But that's Everton for you – they might just surprise us. UTFT
Joe McMahon
40 Posted 14/10/2022 at 10:35:55
I'm not making excuses for how it ended with Rafa, but he really didn't stand a chance with so many injuries, its unheard of to this extent in professional sport.

Yerry Mina is on a stonking £120k a week, to play 20 mins every 4 months. Carlo was fortunate to get so many games out of him.

Dave Abrahams
41 Posted 14/10/2022 at 10:36:21
Robert (34),

Yes I think you are right about Mina, he definitely gives a shit — about money. If he was a statue, he'd be priceless because I think he's made of a very rare porcelain China.

Jim Bennings
42 Posted 14/10/2022 at 10:43:44
Alan @29,

Yes, you are right, between 2006 to 2008 under Moyes, we'd waited 21 years for a win at Spurs; then like buses, you get a trio all at once.

I think we've only won about 9 of the last 50 league games against them or something nuts like that.

John Raftery
43 Posted 14/10/2022 at 11:24:07
Mike (24), Correct!

As for tomorrow's match, we will have a very different team compared with the one we fielded on that horrible Monday night in March. Only two of Lyndon's predicted eleven started that night; Pickford and Coleman.

That Seamus is only in the side owing to the injury to Patterson serves to emphasise the dramatic change in personnel we have seen over the past 6 months. Without that, we would have been contemplating another humiliating defeat tomorrow.

Whatever happens tomorrow I don't expect our new team to capitulate in the way they did last season.

Neil Lawson
44 Posted 14/10/2022 at 11:53:01
Unfortunately, I am with the doom and gloom merchants for this one. Very hard to see how we may come out of the game with anything.

That said, we can be surprised and, at least, we are better organised and committed. A draw would be terrific even if we bore the pants off everyone in achieving it.

Andy Meighan
45 Posted 14/10/2022 at 12:43:05
Richarlison has not got a Premier League goal yet for Spurs.

Next up: the remedy club. I'm sure we'll do our damnedest to oblige. Be delighted with a point but think that's wishful thinking.

Kieran Kinsella
47 Posted 14/10/2022 at 13:50:02
I’m trying to be positive but I suspect this will be a game where the post match thread extends to 900 posts, and involves numerous mentions of Pickford.
Robert Williams
48 Posted 14/10/2022 at 13:50:55
PB 9: 'Raises questions about the Drs'

Do you mean the Drag Reduction System?
Mina has been nothing but a drag on the system!!

Bill Watson
49 Posted 14/10/2022 at 13:57:10
Derek #13,

I believe that all Premier League players are guaranteed their full contractual pay for 18 months, whether they're fit or not.

Lyndon's predicted line-up is probably the one Lampard will go with but I'd select Garner ahead of McNeil. Not much point in having two wingers with no one in the middle to aim at and Garner would strengthen the midfield.

Jay Harris
50 Posted 14/10/2022 at 14:33:31
4-5-1 for this with Doucouré and Iwobi alongside Onana, Gueye and Garner with Maupay or Calvert-Lewin up front.

They are lethal on the break with Son, Richarlison, and Kane all good finishers – something we just don't have.

A boring 0-0 or 0-1 would be a great achievement and is not beyond us.

Eddie Dunn
51 Posted 14/10/2022 at 14:54:26
As for Mina -I'm with Mike Gaynes on him. The guy has long levers and his connective tissue seems unable to cope with the stresses and strains on his frame.
When he does play I see committment.
I wonder what his injury record was like prior to him joining us?

Robert Williams
52 Posted 14/10/2022 at 16:04:19
ED51 Levers you say - I am of the opinion that he should certainly leave us. Preferably in January for a minimum of £8M.
Mike Gaynes
53 Posted 14/10/2022 at 16:05:35
I'd love to see more of Garner, but he has never yet started a Premier League game. Will Frank choose Spurs away as his first such opportunity? Especially in a game where we will likely struggle?

Robert #34, remember Gordon is suspended. I expect Doucoure in midfield and your idea of Iwobi and Gray behind Maupay.

Eddie #51, Mina had a history of foot fractures -- in fact, he was sidelined by one when we signed him -- and hamstring issues. His foot was the biggest concern, and it has held up fine, but the leg muscle problems have just kept coming.

Alan McGuffog
54 Posted 14/10/2022 at 16:29:46
All about opinions.

I see him as having had, marginally, a little more impact at L4 than Danny Williamson or John Oster did.

So for me he can take his bloody long levers and do one.

Danny O’Neill
55 Posted 14/10/2022 at 16:46:00
That was a horrible night, John Raftery. For my sins, I made myself stand there and watch all of it in disbelief before the long trudge home.

Different side, different mentality this weekend.

A ball hasn't been kicked yet and when the first one is, there are 90 minutes to get a result.

Okay, it's an Everton match. There will likely be 96 which becomes 98 with some agonising additional seconds on top of that to see if they can snatch a result.

We can do them. Come on Everton.

We can get something from this.

Ashley Roberts
56 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:03:18
I go with Jay (#50) on this game with a 4-5-1 formation. In addition, I would drop Gueye. While he has always been good at breaking up play, he has always been very poor with his distribution.

I would have Onana play in that defensive role and then bring in Garner and Doucouré to pay with Iwobi. I would also start with Gray and Maupay and have Calvert-Lewin get at least 30 minutes of game time.

I don't think there is a lot of goals in this line-up but I think we would be very difficult to beat. So my hope is for a draw given our recent performances.

Mike Gwyer
57 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:08:20
Key word is frustration. Keep them at arms length and look for the quick break, we have the players who can do that.

I also like the look of Iwobi in the front 3, replacing Maupay. Doucouré then drops into the midfield 3.

If we can keep them frustrated, waste time, and just piss them off, then I feel we can get something. This game for me will be physical with a probability of a red card.

I can't really take to Spurs, they have won fuck-all but insist on sitting in the top seats; I can't understand why... and I remember them getting relegated.

Actually, they are shit.


Paul Kossoff
58 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:12:42
Albert Einstein has apparently apparitionally been trying to contact Frank about the team for the Spurs game.

"Frank, is this the same team that played against Man Utd?

"I vil remind you of a saying that vas attributed to me.

"Ve cannot solve our problems vit the same thinking ve used ven ve created them.

"Now Frank, keep that in mind before the Spurs game, please. Don't be a silly Tvat!!!"

Dale Self
59 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:13:56
Alright, so we're not looking like relegation candidate stuff but this is a bit of a backs-against-the-wall situation as far as selection goes. No Calvert-Lewin, fine. We wouldn't be able to chase them down on defence with him in the eleven.

Frank hopefully remembers some of his success at setting up in 4-5-1 and opening up late. This is what we should do after the disappointment last week; keep it simple and minimize mistakes until we know Gana can be depended on for a simple pass out of danger.

Spurs are not a well-balanced team but, if we cede possession, we've got to find a way to keep Iwobi dangerous. Maybe Frank experiments again with him at right-wingback and McNeil in front of him but I would obviously discourage the 3-5-2 and I'm not sure I'd want Keane or Holgate in the lineup against Spurs' front line.

It's not like Spurs have found form, they just have a solid squad of experienced footballers in a largely dictated system of Conte's. If we can keep Kulusevic from getting in stride, the remaining forwards have trouble setting each other up.

We can get in the way enough to force them to commit and then, if Gana can just get rid of the ball, we may get some chances on the break.

Somewhat glad Gordon isn't playing since his form was fading. UTFT and fuck Spurs!

Oh yeah, and fuck Spurs again!

Rob Halligan
60 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:21:31
Dale, Spurs are fuck all. Big club my arse!!
Lyndon Lloyd
61 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:43:00
Bill (49),

I also like the idea of playing Garner in there and using Iwobi in a more attacking role when we have the ball; 4-5-1 defensive shape when we don't.

Danny O’Neill
62 Posted 14/10/2022 at 17:58:07
Apparently they were bigger than us in the '80s, only having been promoted in 1977' if I recall.

They've got a bigger stadium than us now.

Bigger club?

No chance.

Derek Knox
63 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:08:01
Bill @ 49, Mike G, and Lyndon,

I also endorse the shout for James Garner in midfield, at the expense of Iwobi, and push him (Iwobi) just in front of the midfield, I think that could possibly work. I say 'possibly' because, if it isn't tried, how can we ever know?

A lot of course will hinge on who we have up front too; has Calvert-Lewin kept fit enough to carry on after a brief and welcome appearance against Man Utd? I would be tempted to start with Maupay who can worry defences with his potential threat, where he is like a worker bee up front and capable of nicking a goal.

Then, depending on the situation, bring Calvert-Lewinon to either partner Maupay, or replace him.

As has been mentioned, as if we needed reminding, we have historically, not done particularly well against these, either home or away. Maybe we need that to change, starting tomorrow.

Kieran @ 17, Thanks mate.

COYB 💙💙💙

Rob Halligan
64 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:11:13
Danny, big clubs win League Championships. I think I was 1 when they won their second (and last) League Championship, whilst you weren't even around.

It may be quite a few years since our last League Championship win but, as it stands, we are still the fourth most successful club in England with nine League Championships. Spurs are somewhere near the bottom!!

Paul Washington
65 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:12:49
I can't stand Spurs since the 1995 FA Cup Semi-final when one of their Neanderthals was swinging on Neville's crossbar in an attempt to get game called off after a mini pitch invasion.

Unfortunately, they are a big club; I'm sure they've won more trophies than us.

Dave Abrahams
66 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:27:43
Danny (55),

Spurs have won all their home games in different competitions so maybe they are due to drop some points and maybe, if we apply ourselves a lot better than last week, we could surprise them with a win.

We could really have a go, like the night Joseph Yobo wanted to come off early with a leg injury, Alan Stubbs told him to try and run the injury off, Joseph did and we won 3-1.

Imagine telling Mina to run an injury off, no bleedin' chance, he's had nine different types of injuries since he joined us – he missed one game with a bruise!!

Dale Self
67 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:33:08
Yeah, Rob, I just don't understand how they get the Big 6 label rather than perennial bridesmaid – more like the ushers who show the big clubs to their seats, typically in injury time.
Will Mabon
68 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:41:37
There are different ways to frame what is a big club. Call me old-fashioned but any club without some mix of a long top-flight record or multiple wins of the domestic league, say six or more, is not an established big club. Whatever the European and Cup records.

To me, this means, alphabetically: Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd.

Spurs are not in the list of big clubs; Villa and Everton are.

* Strangely, when typing that list of clubs, the only one the word-check software of TW doesn't "like" is Everton!

Edit: And now I look to check and find Sunderland are a big club by my measure....

James Flynn
69 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:43:35
Put Gana on Højbjerg.

For how good he is, that guy gets little attention, considering his importance in their attack. Or for how good he is in general.

I see why we went in for him when he was leaving Southampton.

Anyway, it's him I'd want to take out of the game.

Will Mabon
70 Posted 14/10/2022 at 18:52:52

That season-opener back when we beat Tottenham 1-0 at their (small club) ground, and made Højbjerg look like a mistake purchase by Spurs.

Could do with some of that tomorrow.

Jerome Shields
71 Posted 14/10/2022 at 19:00:27
The club have to attempt to do something with Mina. But he is always going to be injury-prone and unreliable. Not really suitable for building a consistent team. Mina was lucky with his contract at Everton, his career was really finished at Barcelona at that level.

Everton really have to get it together in midfield for this game, no errors and a 100% improvement in pass completion.

Roger Helm
72 Posted 14/10/2022 at 19:04:22
I don't think a "small calf problem" would have stopped Reid, Ferguson, Cahill or Ball (to name but a few) from playing. Nor would I imagine it would stop Mina from playing for Colombia.

Anyway, I think our current centre-bck pairing will mean he'd not missed too much.

I think we may actually get something out of this game (but then again I have just had a glass of red).

Kieran Kinsella
73 Posted 14/10/2022 at 19:10:23
I remember Louis Saha started this "big club" nonsense when he publicly shared rumors that Pienaar could and in his mind should go and join "the big club" Spurs.

Pip Neville also pulled out that line being flattered to be linked with a "big club" when Redkanpp offered about 5 quid for him.

But they are not and never have been "big" by any measure: trophies, attendance, world renown. They are like a slightly better version of Southampton.

Joe McMahon
74 Posted 14/10/2022 at 19:11:39
Roger @72,

And certainly not Danny McGrain.

Re Ferguson, he just missed games through red and yellow cards.

John Raftery
75 Posted 14/10/2022 at 19:31:54
Football is a transient sport reported by a media with little regard to the history of clubs. When does a ‘big' club cease to be so? Perceptions alter from generation to generation.

I started watching football at the beginning of the sixties when Spurs v Everton was by a distance the biggest domestic game in the calendar, closely followed by Everton v Burnley. In those days, they were the big clubs, our neighbours weren't even considered. As for Man Utd and Arsenal they weren't in the conversation, languishing in mid-table or below.

In the perception of the modern generation, proper football only started in 1992. Inevitably the majority of the Sky-driven media is focused on recent history and the Premier League in particular. Mindful of that, the reason Spurs are considered ‘big' is nothing to do with a count of trophies from a bygone age and everything to do with recent Premier League positioning.

I suggest the reason Spurs are described in the media as a Big 6 club is they have finished in the Top 6 in 12 of the last 13 seasons. For the current media and the younger generation starting to follow the game, that is all that counts. Unfortunately.

Derek Knox
76 Posted 14/10/2022 at 19:33:32
Dave @66,

"Imagine telling Mina to run an injury off, no bleedin' chance, he's had nine different types of injuries since he joined us, he missed one game with a bruise!!"

And, it wasn't in his wallet! 🤔😜💙

Will Mabon
77 Posted 14/10/2022 at 20:11:45
John @75,

I agree with the logic and rational observations of your post.

We as a club however, are much older than Sky and the Premier League - and those '60s fixtures against Spurs... and, as an Everton supporter, I reserve the right to use and quote the longer-term measures and history that will always trump later assessments and viewpoints. :-)

Robert Williams
78 Posted 14/10/2022 at 20:55:56
MG 53 'but the leg muscle problems have just kept coming.'

Just like his pay cheque, eh?

Mike Gaynes
79 Posted 14/10/2022 at 21:20:32
Yeah, Robert, it's been about a hundred years since professional athletes were paid by the game and lost their pay when they were injured.

Dale Self
80 Posted 14/10/2022 at 21:28:28
Ah the good ol' days. Too bad the beautiful game had to start up with that socialist shit. Players having their contract honored when injured on the job, what snowflakes. Rub some dirt on it. Shake it off.
Michael Kenrick
81 Posted 14/10/2022 at 21:32:48

Your comment would suggest that the fan-favourite vehicle for injury-prone players – the oft-cited "pay as you play" contract – is just as rare, or indeed a canard?

Will Mabon
82 Posted 14/10/2022 at 21:33:32
I feel a can of worms discussion coming on...
Andy Crooks
83 Posted 14/10/2022 at 21:48:39
Roger@72, are you suggesting that Duncan Ferguson battled through injury and that nothing on earth stopped him from playing? Really?
Duncan changed his life and I admire what he did. Never had him down as a trouper in his entire playing career.
Kieran Kinsella
84 Posted 14/10/2022 at 21:57:04
Pay-to-play is not unheard of for these types of players.

Wilshere was rumored to have discussed such a deal also last year.

Dale Self
85 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:03:57
I think the point is that once you start adding those types of clauses to a proposed contract the better players whether injury prone or not will simply look for other offers.

I haven't really looked at the labor market aspects of this but the present transfer market conditions would seem to imply that the club is best served by assuming the risk. Their best move is to ensure proper training prevents and good scouting avoids the players troubled by injury. Perhaps that is a first move problem that could be lessened by a coalition that introduced 'injury contracts'.

Derek Thomas
86 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:09:30
If they weren't in London, they'd just be another of those clubs with a funny name, like Accrington Stanley.
Rob Halligan
87 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:23:02
Wasn’t there a comic named after them, The Hotspur? Very apt for a “comic” club.
Tony Everan
88 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:28:01
It will be a work hard, keep it tight as a budgies snatch and nick a goal job tomorrow. Although it will more likely be the prancing cockerels that nick it.

If we can keep up the work rate a chance or two will come for us, and the eternal deluded optimist in me says we grab a win in the later part of the game.

I think Lyndon's suggested team is about right.

Pekka Harvilahti
92 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:51:22
This will be another hard season of survival because we don't have any attacking threat.

Only Everton would rely on Maupay and Rondon when their #1 striker is injured. Calvert-Lewin may never get back to the level he was before the injury or even play again. To wait and expect him to recover and be the same as he was is about as wise as waiting for Santa to drop Haaland into Finch Farm ready to sign for us.

Even if Calvert-Lewin is in shape, he needs a proper shrink to build his confidence back up again and it takes time. My guess is he won't make it and so we will be in trouble. Cue another panic buy in January (maybe Adams from Saints, but hey, his middle name is Everton, he must be good).

But about the Saturday game:

The only way to handle Spurs now is to defend deep and try to counter when we can. It won't be easy and it surely won't be good football. Last time, Frank tried aggressive pressing; it worked well for 10 minutes and they scored 5.

The Man Utd game was hopefully our worst game of the season, let's hope it stays that way. We won at Spurs 2 years ago. We can get something from the game if the team thinks they can do it. In the last game, they seemed like not really giving a fuck.

Luckily Gordon will be out because, right now, he just can't make the right decisions. Another Ross Barkley, I'm afraid.

Michael Kenrick
93 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:51:45
I'm not entirely convinced, Kieran, but thanks for posting those examples – one is 11 years old and the other seems to be written expressly to enshrine fans' beliefs that such contracts are an everyday reality.

For what it's worth, I strongly suspect they are very very rare in today's Premier League.

Derek Knox
94 Posted 14/10/2022 at 22:54:04
Derek T @ 86, you have obviously 'drunk your milk buddy' how are you ? Hope all is well down under, as well as hoping for a win tomorrow.

No, I don't still believe in the Tooth Fairy, but it was all that was left, in Pandora's Box (HOPE). 👍💙😜

Kieran Kinsella
95 Posted 14/10/2022 at 23:05:18

I can't see how they're practical anyway. If you train all week but don't plan,y then you go home empty-handed? Or if you say you're fit and training and the coach says in his opinion you're not fit enough, then do you not get paid?

Who would be the arbiter of fit or unfit and is training work? In which case presumably unless you're a slave you're entitled to a wage even if you train poorly?

Tony Hill
96 Posted 15/10/2022 at 01:42:02
I don't share the dislike of Tottenham. They have always struck me as the Everton of the South, though less successful if we're counting the pots.

Their majestic team of the early 60s were the first Double winners and their fine Captain, Danny Blanchflower, gave us the very best quote about the meaning of football.

They have tried to maintain a tradition of stylish football since and have not infrequently achieved it.

They are like us because they have a genius for disappointment. We must pray that they live up to that tomorrow.

Tony Hill
97 Posted 15/10/2022 at 01:54:22
Paul @65 is right and I am wrong. They have won more trophies than us but that's because they've taken the trinkets, not the deep gold of League titles. Ahem.
Kieran Kinsella
98 Posted 15/10/2022 at 02:01:27
Tony Hill,

If you're going that route, didn't we win the Zenith Data Cup?

Also, I remember in about 1990 there was an indoor six-a-side thing on TV; we had Southall and Sharp in our team. I can't remember who else as I was shocked we let Sharp play. Anyway, I think we won.

Then there was the MLS Cup and various Charity Shields. But if you look at the one thing that matters – the league – we are miles ahead.

Tony Hill
99 Posted 15/10/2022 at 02:34:05
Kieran @98, fine work. We win again.

God, a win tomorrow would be wonderful. You can sense things moving into place for us but we must exercise patience like the monks.

Tony Hill
100 Posted 15/10/2022 at 02:47:58
A win today, sorry.
Kieran Kinsella
101 Posted 15/10/2022 at 03:21:43

I know, mate, we are all other nuts or Dalai Lamas.

Bernie Quinn
102 Posted 15/10/2022 at 05:00:16
Apart from Danny, most posters seem to say we will lose this game. So why not have a gamble?

Last week, Pickford came upfield and nearly scored from a corner. So I would suggest this team to start the game:

Begovic; Lyndon's back 4; Davies, Gana, Onana; Gray, Pickford, Iwobi.

2nd half: Pickford; same back 4; Garner, Moupay, Iwobi (still subs to bring on).

Madness? Perhaps so, but if we are going to lose, let's try and put Spurs off their game.

Many years ago, when I coached a successful club team, my excellent left winger asked if he could have a go at centre-back. We were well on top of the league. so I gave him his wish. He was brilliant! By the end of the season, he was team captain and regular centre-back for Canterbury the following season. Even had trials for New Zealand's National Team.

Some talk of last season's humiliating defeat. I am an old, old Evertonian and still remember our getting hammered by Spurs 10-4!! I hate that Club and would love us to thrash them. The best I can honestly hope for though is a 1-1 draw and In Frank I Trust.

Steve Brown
103 Posted 15/10/2022 at 05:11:02
Tony, 2 league titles for Spurs vs 9 League titles for the mighty Blues.

I met a load of them at a recent wedding and they are a properly deluded bunch.

Steve Brown
104 Posted 15/10/2022 at 05:17:47
Kieran @ 84, unfortunately injury prone players remain injury-prone no matter what contract you offer them – Saha, Delph, Gibson and big Yerry prove that.

I think we simply need to stop signing injury-prone players in the hope that somehow a miracle will happen and they will be fit with us.

Although we have been really unfortunate with some horrible injuries that basically meant that the players were never the same – Oviedo, McCarthy, Coleman, Gomes and Gbamin spring to mind.

Bernie Quinn
105 Posted 15/10/2022 at 06:39:29
Edit - Sorry, missed the 2nd half midfield trio - which wou;d be the same.
Rick Tarleton
106 Posted 15/10/2022 at 07:38:32
I see Spurs, because of Son's and Richarlison's pace, as our biggest nightmare. Tarkowski and Coady have many virtues, but pace isn't one of them.

Nursing Calvert-Lewin back is obviously a sound ploy, but one wonders just how delicate he is and when will he be up to playing a series of hard games?

As ever, we will put out a hard-working and committed team, but there isn't a lot of creativity here and we'll be hoping to nick something on the break or from a set-piece.

Fingers crossed and all that, but not that optimistic.

Paul Birmingham
107 Posted 15/10/2022 at 08:29:01
For me, the midfield that Everton start with must compete and stay focused and try not to waste possession. How this is achieved will be interesting as Maupay was left with no support vs Man Utd until Calvert-Lewin came on.

But he must start gambling and get to the near and back post to meet Demarai's tailored crosses. So many of these chances missed last and this season.

Spurs are, on their day, a slick passing team often on the counter, so Everton must be switched on. It will be interesting if Everton keep a deeper line to minimise the pace of Spurs.

Praying for a result and, whilst Spurs are doing well, they (like any team in this League) can have an off-day, like Everton did on Sunday.

Garner could start and I think he has it all in his locker. including distance shooting; let's see.

Everton to upset the media pundits today.

Derek Knox
108 Posted 15/10/2022 at 08:44:58
It won't be easy today, never is down there, against what seems to be one of our bogey teams. However, far from writing them off in this one, I just hope Frank and his team work this one out properly. They have some pretty quick players, so no rash lunges to thwart the inevitable attacks.

The commitment has to be better than against Man Utd, and please, please, make subs earlier if it is apparent Plan A, isn't working. If we do happen to get an early goal and lead, don't sit back on it and try to defend it, go for more, or at least stop Spurs getting anything. Frustrate them, they are at home after all, let them make the mistakes.

COYB 💙💙 (2-1 to us)

Hugh Jenkins
109 Posted 15/10/2022 at 08:59:10
Rob (87),

You can read about the origins of the name "Hotspur", here It existed long before the football team or the comic - LOL.

It is now an integral part of the name of the North London football club – but it is only like us demanding to be known as Everton – School of Science. instead of just Everton.

Graeme Beresford
110 Posted 15/10/2022 at 09:28:20
Bernie @102,

This is why we are all posters on a forum and not football managers.

You are suggesting starting Tom Davies who has probably had one good game for Everton in around 50 appearances.

I hope my eyes have deceived me on what I'm about to say. You said, start Pickford up front. So you want to start a goalkeeper up front because he came up for some late corners against Man Utd? I think you are in a La-la land, my friend.

I mean, that's footy manager stuff – not the Premier League. It was bad enough all those years ago when we were playing Steve Watson up front but now you suggest Pickford? Crazy!!

Brendan McLaughlin
111 Posted 15/10/2022 at 09:41:00
Bernie #102

"Madness? Perhaps so, but if we are going to lose, let's try and put Spurs off their game."

Your Pickford suggestion would probably work initially but after the Spurs players stopped laughing... then what?

Tony Abrahams
112 Posted 15/10/2022 at 09:48:36
A positive ToffeeWeb before a game usually means Everton let us down, Bernie, so hopefully a negative one (realists, maybe?) can have the opposite effect and the Toffees can hopefully churn out a dogged batting victory.

Andy C, I remember sitting in the lower Gwladys St reet stand against Crewe, in a tepid FA Cup match, and Kevin Campbell was desperately trying to stay on after getting injured. This kid who was about 15 was having a laugh and shouting, but he suddenly said, "Fair play to Campbell, though, Duncan Ferguson would have been off the pitch and down the tunnel by now!"

Not knocking Duncan, because when he had the fire in his belly he had the heart of a lion, but I thought that kid was right. I smiled and thought, you can't kid everyone at Goodison, no matter who you are.

I love it when I'm surrounded by people who don't miss a trick, although the argument will still remain if it's true that kid was correct, because Duncan has always been an idol to many.

Christopher Timmins
113 Posted 15/10/2022 at 10:09:21
Same starting 11 as last Sunday, no high line against a team who are far better when counter attacking. More minutes for DCL and Garner and a point to add to our current total.
Danny O’Neill
114 Posted 15/10/2022 at 10:45:50
Good point about their pace up front.

Strap yourselves in. We'll be sat deep and nick one, but it's not going to be pretty.

Brian Harrison
115 Posted 15/10/2022 at 10:53:45
My concern is the same as it's been for a while in that, despite improvements to the squad, we really lack any goal threat.

Leaving aside Calvert-Lewin, the rest of the forwards and midfield don't score many goals, and the worry with Calvert-Lewin is Lampard still reckons he hasn't joined in all the training sessions despite coming on against Man Utd.

The atmosphere that Lampard has created amongst the playing staff and the fans is great and, despite last season with little or nothing to cheer, the support of our wonderful fans created a terrific atmosphere.

But they do need something to cheer and quite often most of our attacks fail well before reaching the opponent's box. Lampard has to alter that, and quickly; otherwise, we will be back in the same position as last season.

Graeme Beresford
116 Posted 15/10/2022 at 11:01:39
What I want to see today is the wingers getting the ball just outside the box and having a crack at goal. You simply do not win football matches by having 2 shots on target in 90 minutes.

I think we have to start Dom. Bring him off at half-time if necessary. Get the ball up to him, get him winning headers and get Gray and McNeil alongside him, running onto the flicks and having some shots.

It's a tough one cos part of me thinks we should go 5 at the back but the other part thinks sod it, if we are going to get beat we might as well have a go. Up to Frank though isn't it.

Raymond Fox
117 Posted 15/10/2022 at 11:03:10
You have to be a supreme optimist to fancy us today.

I've got it down as a loss, so the way I look at it anything we get will be bonus.

I'm obviously hoping to be suprised.

Brian Murray
118 Posted 15/10/2022 at 11:14:07
Alternative match day routine. The Brick, by god's little acre, free pots of lovely scouse or chicken curry, sarnies. Away game on a dodgy stream … 3 points, bring it on. What could go wrong?
Tony Abrahams
119 Posted 15/10/2022 at 11:24:34
Spurs having pace in attack might just suit Everton, because we will have to defend as a complete unit, rather than exposing ourselves like we did last Sunday night
Christine Foster
120 Posted 15/10/2022 at 11:37:51
Hmm… defensively, when faced with a team of pacey forwards, you defend deep and double up the midfield, a 4-5-1 ot even a 5-4-1. Point being, the overlaping midfield have to cover the full-back against pace. The midfield have to stop the runners coming through. Finally, we need a forward who can lay off or hold up.

People think Spurs are blessed with pace but, as good as Kane and Richarlison are, they are neither hard to catch. I think it might be a good game; draw for me.

Robert Tressell
121 Posted 15/10/2022 at 12:00:46
Certainly we need to be fairly deep and compact in defense, Christine & Tony. Ancelotti showed that's the route to get points away.

In terms of attack, it will be a question of getting bodies around Calvert-Lewin who hopefully is now ready to start.

One option might be to play Maupay right alongside him and go long. That's unsettling for Spurs' back 3 to deal with and avoids being caught in a press and counter-attack, our undoing against Man Utd.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us match their back 3 / 5. In which case, we can go 5-3-2 and forego our wingers altogether.

Paul Washington
122 Posted 15/10/2022 at 12:02:28

Love the 'genius for disappointment' line!

I suppose 'Spursy' and 'Everton that' are what we have in common!!

Tom Bowers
123 Posted 15/10/2022 at 12:19:02
No matter who we play it will be tough. This is the toughest league in the world and you have to be tough to survive and get points at any ground.

Yes, we are coming off another home loss and need to bounce back but we are still a work in progress and need new players, particularly on offense.

That may not happen until the New Year.

Spurs are doing well and have Son, Richarlison and Kane which is scary enough, so the defense needs to be in top form.

Other than that, the ''forwards'' need to nickel and dime their way in the hope of pinching a goal, maybe just another set-piece.

Nick Page
124 Posted 15/10/2022 at 12:59:54
These lot always turn up against us. Usually the best game of their season. If we don't get into it early doors, we could be in for the biannual hammering with goals flying in from everywhere. Just once, once please prove everyone wrong, Everton.
Brian Wilkinson
125 Posted 15/10/2022 at 13:34:08
Going to stick my neck out and predict Coleman to have a blinder, chip in with an assist or goal, and silence the doubters.

Three points please Everton.

Brian Murray
126 Posted 15/10/2022 at 13:34:47
Let them earn the right if they have too much for us. No last season (or last week) cheap goals and then you never know.
Rob Hooton
128 Posted 15/10/2022 at 14:10:34
On Mina, it's a shame he has the injury record he does as he's one of my favourite players when fit – and he always does something to make you laugh!

Spurs are light in midfield, according to my Spurs mates, and we need to have the numbers there to win the midfield battle. They have been winning without playing well in many games, it's high time the jammy dodgers' luck ran out.

2-1 to the Blues, Calvert-Lewin to come on for the last 15 mins and get the winner with a trademark header.

Tony Everan
129 Posted 15/10/2022 at 14:17:20
Robert 121 , I see that as a possible solution, the nuisance Maupay feeding off DCL is going to cause problems for any team if they can hit off an understanding. The big question is today - will DCL start ?

Our wingers are not producing enough end product, but conversely if DCL starts that may change too, they’ll have a bit more sense of purpose of what they need to do. At the moment, offensively it’s all a bit disconnected. From the sounds of it, it looks like another cameo is on the cards.

I wouldn’t be surprised today to see Garner start in a 4312 formation and Iwobi instructed to attack from advanced midfield supporting Gray and Maupay.

If DCL not ready ;


Coleman Tarkowski Coady Mykolenko

>>>>>>>Onana Gana Garner


>>>>>>>>>>Gray Maupay

Brian Murray
130 Posted 15/10/2022 at 14:23:48
I doubt Calvert-Lewin will start. We just need to stay in the game, then unleash him (if that's the right word) for the last half-an-hour.
Si Cooper
131 Posted 15/10/2022 at 14:41:27
It will be interesting to see how we try to deal with Spurs. They love to counter and our defence is definitely short on pace at the moment.

In Kane and Son and a few of the supporting cast, they have finishers who can feast on half-chances so parking the bus is as risky as it ever is.

I can't see us actually being able to dominate them in any department in particular so is there any chance we can simply get the balance right and keep shepherding them down blind alleys, whilst having enough of a threat on the break to make them nervous enough to knock them out of their stride?

I had more optimism last week but we were far too accommodating then. Hopefully the players were woken up by that performance and will be inspired.

Never really disliked Spurs until throughout the Moyes era it became obvious that many in the media linked them much more as supposed equals to the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea despite us pretty consistently finishing as the ‘best of the rest'. Without Pochettino, I think they'd still be plucky triers at best.

They are generally much stronger as an attacking force these days but their defence can still be wishy-washy. Hopefully our attackers all have a collective stormer. UTFT!

Ajay Gopal
132 Posted 15/10/2022 at 15:31:28
The training video this week on the Official site showed Michael Keane doing an unusual amount of shooting practice. Maybe Lampard has a cunning plan to use him as a striker?!

But seriously, I would like to see Garner or Davies in place of Gordon in a 4-4-2:

Coleman Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko
Garner Gueye Onana Iwobi
Gray Maupay

With Calvert-Lewin, Doucoure coming on to trouble their back line in the final stages.

Kieran Kinsella
133 Posted 15/10/2022 at 15:42:29

Sounds like a Baldrick cunning plan but it would certainly surprise Conte.

Danny O’Neill
134 Posted 15/10/2022 at 15:46:10
I watched that, Ajay.

Nice to see Ben Godfrey back kicking a ball and being individually taken through his paces.

I liked the small game in a tight pitch session. Three teams; so two on one. All about possession in tight spaces and working hard with pressing to get the ball back when possession was lost.

I also liked the togetherness and how they were training with a smile on their faces. Let's hope they take that into this afternoon.

Brian Wilkinson
135 Posted 15/10/2022 at 15:58:05
Whether you like rugby league or not, have a tune in on bbc1 now for the England v Samoa game, and watch if a try is scored how you hear the ref communicate with the var type guy what to check for, different slow motion angles, etc and the feedback from the guy checking.

Puts var to shame.

Eddie Dunn
136 Posted 15/10/2022 at 16:10:56
Brian -I've been asking for ages why we can't have that transparency. The PL VAR is pathetic in comparison.
Danny O’Neill
137 Posted 15/10/2022 at 16:11:29
Said that on the general chat thread Brian.

Transparency and accountability and officials who, although I don't doubt get right every time, have a decent understanding of the rules and aren't scared to talk about their decisions.

How the VAR should be used as opposed as being another screen to hide behind.

The VAR isn't the problem. It should actually help. The obvious problem remans. The standard of officials. Be they on the pitch or in the coffee area at Stockley Park having a chat amongst themselves.

Mike Gaynes
138 Posted 15/10/2022 at 16:15:10
Here in the US, VAR is used really well in the NFL and hockey. Quick, clear decisions. In baseball and the NBA it can take too long to make a decision. But overall VAR has become ingrained in the sporting culture, and we've reached the point where it's taken for granted.
Derek Taylor
139 Posted 15/10/2022 at 16:25:13
When we had no money, we were going head to head with Spurs year after year. It didn't take long for Moshiri's wealth to put an end to that. These days they are in Europe whilst we'll struggle to get top half. Transition, you know!
Joe McMahon
140 Posted 15/10/2022 at 16:34:15
Derek@138, it's so frustrating.

Over the last 10 years, Spurs have prioritised goals and Everton have not. Lukaku was a one-off. Spurs mentality has changed.

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